Gifted/Classical Test Info

According to, here’s the notification schedule of when CPS will mail letters for magnet and selective enrollment schools:

Elem Gifted, Classical, Academic Centers, Magnets: late march

In the past, the gifted/classical letters have mailed on time.  I think I recall the magnets going out in a timely way.  Neighborhood schools have been later as it takes time for CPS to work through all the schools’ lotteries.  Two year ago, there was a group of people whose gifted/classical test scores were lost in the mail (me, included!)  Took 2 weeks to convince GEAP to re-send them.  If yours is late, you can go to the GEAP office to pick it up.

It is also unclear whether for the gifted/classical schools they will send the test scores and the school notifications at the same time.  That seems to vary year by year.


This page is still under construction, but I’m going to pull together some of my old posts that might help parents who are getting ready to test their kids this year.  I’ll write more soon, but if you’re looking for info on the test, this should get you started.  Please post in the comment section after your child has tested if you like.  I always love hearing the stories from parents afterwards…..

CPS Office of Academic Enhancement

Elementary Selective Enrollment: (Gifted and Classical elementary schools, Academic centers, Intl gifted programs)

High School Selective Enrollment

SOME OLD POSTS I MADE ABOUT THE APPLICATION PROCESS: (There is a link to some sample questions here.)


397 Comments Add your own

  • 1. Adele  |  March 1, 2010 at 1:26 pm

    Would any readers be interested in visiting Keller Regional Gifted Center? It’s a lovely school.

    Everyone’s invited to our annual Breakfast with the Easter Bunny on Saturday March 13 from 8:30 am to 10:30 am. Pancakes, sausages, milk, OJ and coffee. Adults are $6, Children $5 and children under 3 are free.

    Our address is 3020 W. 108th St., Chicago, 60655. We are in the Mt. Greenwood neighborhood and next to Beverly, which has some architecturally interesting homes by Wright and others and it is very worthwhile to take a drive down Longwood Drive.


  • 2. cyan  |  March 12, 2010 at 3:13 pm

    we should go to school we are 90 years old

  • 3. sara  |  March 29, 2010 at 12:02 pm

    does anyone know anything about Coonley’s Gifted program?
    Also, any idea how they decide what Gifted or classical school your child gets into?

  • 4. D  |  March 30, 2010 at 6:38 pm

    We just received our score for entrance into Kindergarten. My daughter scored 134. She was not accepted to Coonley.

    Anybody know what the cutoff is or have a child who was accepted at coonley? I’m trying to determine if she has any chance at spot later.

  • 5. sara  |  March 30, 2010 at 9:52 pm

    our daughter was accepted to Coonley and scored a 148. We had her tested as a fluke and b/c it was free and merely widened the net for us in terms of possibilities. The more I read this blog the more insane I think this whole situation is.

  • 6. Tim  |  March 31, 2010 at 9:26 am

    @D: Our daughter was not accepted at Coonley. 142, Tier 4.

    My hunch re your chances is that your socioeconomic ‘tier’ will have a lot to do with it. We have a friend whose kid got into Edison with 141, lower tier.

  • 7. helicoptermom  |  April 2, 2010 at 7:52 am

    Anyone know about the Gifted International Baccalaurate program at Lincoln or Ogden? They are for 6th-8th grade and are houses in neighborhood schools. How do they compare with regional gifted programs?

  • 8. Charice Harper  |  October 14, 2010 at 1:54 pm

    When can I prepare my daughter to take a placement test to see if she qualifies for entry into Kellers 3rd grade class, school year 2011-2012?

  • 9. Testing  |  November 18, 2010 at 12:06 pm

    @CPS Obsessed (and anyone else who might have some thoughts on this):

    You’re obviously way in-the-know about these things. I was curious what you think about the accuracy of the tests? I recently took DS for testing and my M-I-L came with me, who is a retired special ed teacher and managed testing for specialed students out-of-state. She was disappointed that tests were being done by grad students rather than a teacher or psychologist and that the test only took 20 minutes. She felt that that was not enough time to truly evaluate a child and determine whether he or she is “gifted”. In your Humble Opinion, do you feel that the “right” students get into the Gifted/Classical Schools, or is there room for interpretation here?

    If this thread has already been discussed on your blog, you can just point me in the right direction. But I couldn’t find it. Thanks. Just curious as to what you think.

  • 10. cpsobsessed  |  November 18, 2010 at 12:20 pm

    @Testing: I would agree with your MIL and I’m sure CPS would as well. I believe the test is considered to be an abbreviated version of a full-scale test. There just isn’t any way the district could afford to test all the kids with a full version administered by teachers/psychologists. there are something like 6,000-8,000 kids who test each year.

    I think the sense is that the test can produce “false negatives” meaning plenty of very smart kids don’t test into a program, but few “false positives” (kids test into the gifted programs who clearly shouldn’t be there.)

    I think the group testing that is used in pre-1st grade an up is even more imprecise, given that kids are at the mercy of their group. But it’s probably close to the best we can do on an extremely limited budget.

  • 11. Tim  |  December 6, 2010 at 12:47 pm

    I understand the decision on who gets admitted does not come out til the spring, but when can you find out how well you child did on the test itself? Do they even give out the results of the test? Thanks

  • 12. Testing  |  December 6, 2010 at 1:05 pm

    Tim – I could be wrong, but I believe you get your child’s score and the acceptance letter at the same time. Meaning, one letter comes out and that has all the info on it.

  • 13. Jennifer  |  January 8, 2011 at 10:50 pm

    My daughter tested as a current 1st grader this week and they were in there around 90 minutes, as were the group before. Not sure if they’ve changed the test as it’s our first time.

  • 14. twocents  |  February 6, 2011 at 2:38 pm

    When DD took the classical test ~ one month ago, a boy two seats down from her vomited all over his scantron form. The testing personnell were kind enough to give him a new one. Just a minor distraction, eh?!?!?

  • 15. a  |  March 21, 2011 at 3:15 pm

    Our daugher tested with a score of 142 for the Regional Gifted Centers…which should puter her on the high side of the 99th percentile. But the best we were offered was 37th on the wait list for Skinner. Any chance for her?

  • 16. Jason  |  March 21, 2011 at 9:28 pm

    My daughter has been accepted to Skinner North. Any one have any feedback on this school? Good or bad. Not sure if this would be a good idea but we were really hoping for Edison because its closer to our home and my office, easy commute. Any opinions on declining the Skinner North offer and hoping one of the other gifted schools like Edison might come a-calling?

  • 17. abcde  |  March 21, 2011 at 9:48 pm

    @Jason: Our son attended Skinner North for a year before switching to Keller RGC. We liked the school but the homework load was intense. Very ambitious teachers and principal!

    On a different note: Does anybody know the current cutoff score for Keller for 1st grade?

  • 18. KLS  |  March 22, 2011 at 9:07 am

    Any thoughts on the RGC program at Pritzker? What are the benefits/drawbacks between the RGC program and a magnet school like Stone? Thanks in advance.

  • 19. cpsobsessed  |  March 22, 2011 at 9:33 am

    @18 KLS. I would tour Pritzker. I have heard good things about the program, but they don’t always seem to enroll a full class for some reason. Probably a call you have to make on your own based on your impressions, location, hours, etc. (Or course small class = good for your kid!)

    The benefit of a RGC is that they work 1-2 year ahead in curriclulum. The magnet schools still have to work at the grade level curric. Some teachers might be good at giving advanced work to kids who need it, but there’s no guarantee.

  • 20. SCG  |  March 22, 2011 at 4:54 pm

    My son scored 141 on the RGC test and was not offered a spot, an earlier post stated their waitlist #. We don’t have a waitlist #. How do you find out where you are on the list?

  • 21. cpsobsessed  |  March 22, 2011 at 5:04 pm

    @20 SCG: You won’t get a waitlist for RGC or classical. Just for magnet/neighborhood.
    You ARE on a ranked list but CPS won’t give you that information. They may tell you if your child is really close to the top so you can assess your options (or tell if there is no real chance.)

    Good luck!

  • 22. adam  |  March 22, 2011 at 9:05 pm

    Our kid got a score of 142 for the RGC…but we didn’t get any information about the RGC schools. We did get a list of the wait list for classicals so we have a chance at Chopin and Skinner…but we didn’t hear anything from Edison.

    When do we hear from RGCs? Do we hear from them?

  • 23. John  |  March 29, 2011 at 5:53 am

    My first time on this site and I am bittersweet about it: it’s an awesome treasure trove of information but we only accessed this after the testing process 😦

    I really think a site like this helps make sense of the Kafka esque nightmare that is cps!

    That being said, we screwed up as naive clueless parents… We didn’t vet the process enough ranked two schools (hubris) and didn’t get in. Our kid got a 146 but will end up languishing in a regular kindergarten–any chance of redemption for neglectful parents? 1) can we get information on where on rank list we are (Edison and Decatur); 2) any suggestions at this stage for alternatives (privates etc)?

    Sigh… This reminds me of a documentary I recently saw about manhattanite parents going nutso about preK admissions–at the time i scoffed at the mania but apparently this clueless parent wasn’t manic enough…
    Thank you.

  • 24. wandrerr  |  March 29, 2011 at 5:59 am

    @23 – John – with a 146 your child does have a chance of being called in one of the later rounds – depending on your tier.

    I’m not sure where you live, but if you’re on the northside of the city, I would check out CICS Irvinig Park. They do their lottery later – I think apps are due by 4/7? The shcool does not have a ton of resources, but I was very impressed with their differetiated learning system which a gifted child would thrive in.

    Here is the link for application for admissions.

    Here is the link to the Irving Park campus.

    Also, some neighborhood schools are great. Again, I’m not sure which one if yours, but you might want to check it out.

  • 25. cpsobsessed  |  March 29, 2011 at 10:10 am

    Ha, I love it – “kafkaesque nightmare.”

    I don’t think you did anything wrong. Usually there are only 2 schools near you… if you’d selected more you might be wondering now whether it was worth hauling across town.
    Your child scord very well and may have a good chance of getting into a program at the 1st grade level next year.

    You can try contacting the OAE (see for the number.) It just depends who you talk to and what mood they’re in if they’ll give you that info. I suspect calling in the summer or later in the school year when they’re less busy might give you a better chance. Alternatives are probably some growing schools like Pierce or Prescott (or whatever might be near you) that you may be able to get into over the summer. Or even your neighborhood school. Privates are probably impossible at this point.

    I saw that show – something like Preschool University. NYC is like our system on steroids.

    Good luck!

  • 26. John  |  March 29, 2011 at 7:04 pm

    Well I took your advice… contacted OAE and they were very very nice… in fact, I was surprised to hear a polite voice and there was even a return call… I had the out-of-body experience of hearing and seeing myself devolve into a parody of an obsessed parent asking inane questions… lol.
    Thankfully the adminstrator provided helpful info and I think we will wait for second round runs…
    Wandrerr… that is thoughtful advice will check out the link. Thank you.

    And Ms Cpsobsessed, seriously great info and I could wander for days through the links and pore over the info provided

  • 27. cpsobsessed  |  March 29, 2011 at 8:13 pm

    Thanks for the update. Good luck and report back!

  • 28. John  |  April 25, 2011 at 11:35 pm

    Ok… as wanderrer predicted, little ironman was accepted in a later round… off to terrorize Decatur… for the statistical posterity: 146, 99.9 reading, 96 math bad (as in not-so-favorable) tier, bad gender, bad ethnicity

  • 29. wandrerr  |  April 26, 2011 at 5:48 am


  • 30. ss  |  May 24, 2011 at 9:59 am

    I am looking for feedback on South Loop RGC and also the neighborhood program. One of my twins was acceted at RGC yesterday and I am trying to weigh in on whether it’ll be good for my other twin to join the neighborhood program. Both have admissions at their neighborhood school – Pulaski in Wicker Park. Does anyone know whether my kids will be able to benefit from the magent program at South Loop at all. Thanks.

  • […] CPS school has parents so anxious they hire consultants to help them. After snooping around various blogs about CPS gifted testing, I realized that almost no one knows what’s on this test. I was intrigued. So we applied for […]

  • 32. Matt Kelley  |  December 11, 2011 at 1:57 am

    I did a bit of research and I think there is a way to find out, or at least guess. Check New York, they are the #1 district, we often copt them, then look at statements by OAE and the puzzle seems to fit.

    Check for other tips.

    Matt Kelley

  • 33. Matt Kelley  |  December 15, 2011 at 9:25 am

    Found out even more info on the test. It is in fact the OLSAT. Can’t say everything as some sources are “privileged” but check!news for as much proof as I can offer at this point. Whether you go to this site or not. Study for the OLSAT… please.. The materials for doing so are on a link on the site. Otherwise you pay a bundle to get them from Aristotle Circle… trust me I did and am out 300+ for a flimsy guide and samples, all of which are not as great as the one linked on CPS obsessed.. Thanks and Good Luck!!!

    Matt Kelley

  • 34. curious  |  December 19, 2011 at 11:07 am

    @33 How can the gifted test be the OLSAT alone when that test tops out at a score of 150 and children receive scores higher than that?

  • 35. Matt  |  December 19, 2011 at 11:53 am

    They double the score to throw people off. One of their documents shows the titled OLSAT score.

  • 36. curious  |  December 19, 2011 at 12:56 pm

    “They double the score to throw people off. One of their documents shows the titled OLSAT score.”

    Not clear as to what you are referring. Children in the past have received scores in the 150’s and 160’s to get into the most competitive RGC’s – not really possible on the OLSAT.

  • 37. Matt  |  December 19, 2011 at 1:07 pm

    Cps takes the raw OLSAT and doubles it. I.e 85 OLSAT equals 170 cps

  • 38. EDB  |  December 19, 2011 at 4:40 pm

    This just doesn’t sound right. The very highest scores I’ve heard of are in the 150s-160s. I have to believe this is near the top of the possible scores.

  • 39. cpsobsessed  |  December 19, 2011 at 4:47 pm

    What is the highest OLSAT score?

  • 40. cpsobsessed  |  December 19, 2011 at 4:54 pm

    These make it seem like the OLSAT scores correspond with the CPS gifted test scores…

  • 41. curious  |  December 19, 2011 at 5:00 pm

    The OLSAT tops out at 150. Plus a raw score on an OLSAT is the number of questions correct out of the total asked. Depending on the circumstances, some 4 yr olds answer more questions than others (as seen with the time differences) so that couldn’t be how it works. Also, some kids receive odd numbered scores, not possible if you are multiplying 2! 🙂

    There must be additional factors in addition to the OLSAT.

  • 42. Matt  |  December 19, 2011 at 8:26 pm

    I only make recommendations based on heavily researched facts. Good luck with everything. Thanks, Matt

  • 43. old fogey  |  December 19, 2011 at 8:32 pm

    SelectivePrep has an interesting analysis of the Academic Center Exam. While being in the 99th percentile automatically gives a student 300 points on the Selective Enrollment Exam (the exam 8th graders take), the 99th percentile on the Academic Center Exam gives a student far less. That’s because the Academic Center Exam draws a distinction between someone who is in the 99.9th percentile and someone who is in the 99,0th percentile. The Selective Enrollment Exam makes no such distinction.

    It’s likely that a 150 is basically the same as the 99th percentile. A few students taking the gifted exams do indeed get higher than 150; probably like the situation described above—they are higher than the 99.0 percentile.

  • 44. Pete  |  December 20, 2011 at 4:19 pm

    My daughter tested today and was only in for about 18 minutes, rumors are that the longer the child is in the room the better the score, any input…

  • 45. Pete  |  December 20, 2011 at 4:24 pm

    I did prep using the OLSAT questions and she stated that it was the material we did at home, “this is coming from a 4 year old child”. Has anyone have a child test in less than 20 minutes and get accepted into a RGC or classical school?

  • 46. Mom  |  December 20, 2011 at 4:57 pm

    Pete, how old is your child? 4 years and how many months? For a very young 4 year old that length of time might be okay. For a 4 year old almost ready to turn 5, not so good.

  • 47. Pete  |  December 20, 2011 at 5:24 pm

    My daughter is 4 years old, she will turn 5 years in July. She is the youngest pre-k student in her class.

  • 48. Concernedpapa  |  December 21, 2011 at 7:47 am

    Pete, my daughter is 4 years old and 5 months, I do recall the tester saying “see you shortly”, I thought shortly…well she only tested for about 18-20 minutes. Not sure if this is a good or bad thing. Concerned dad any input????

  • 49. Mom  |  December 21, 2011 at 10:18 am

    Pete, I think she has a very good chance, 18-20 minutes seems like a pretty long time for that young of a child!

  • 50. KD  |  January 19, 2012 at 10:16 pm

    cpsobsessed, when the letters come out, do you plan to have separate posts by school or by area?

  • 51. matt  |  January 20, 2012 at 4:04 am

    just put a ton of CPS Gifted test style sample test questions at with video explanations. Free, so check out if you can. Matt

  • 52. Jessica Green  |  January 21, 2012 at 10:41 pm

    We’ve had unexpected changes and will be moving into Chicago this summer. All of the deadlines are over for the 2012 school year. Is there any hope we could still get our son tested into the regional gifted center for the coming school year?

  • 53. cpsobsessed  |  January 21, 2012 at 11:01 pm

    If you missed the deadline to sign up for the test (deadline was in december) unfortunately there’s no way to test/apply for a gifted program for the 2012-2013 school year.
    Your best bet is to live in an area with a good neighborhood school. Also, I think many of the charters are still taking applications.

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  • 54. KeepHopeAlive  |  January 23, 2012 at 10:31 pm

    When do the HS selective enrollment letters come out for 2012?

  • 55. momof3boys  |  January 25, 2012 at 4:28 pm

    around the 3rd week of feb, i think.

  • 56. curious mom  |  January 30, 2012 at 11:30 pm

    OK, I am totally new to this. I have a child in 4th grade who transferred from a private school to CPS last year. Her counselor suggested that I have her test due to her high ISAT scores last year. I received the letter and her testing date is Wed. The letter states that she is eligible to test for Regional Gifted and Classical Schools. Are these two diffrent tests? It also states the test time is 2 1/2 hours. Is that the max time? Could she finish early? What are the odds of getting in a school as a 5th grader?

  • 57. WRP Mom  |  January 31, 2012 at 12:45 am

    @56, Yes there are 2 different tests. The gifted test is supposed to measure ability and the classical test measures knowledge. They are timed tests in a group setting. If a child finishes early, they would sit quietly until time is called. As for the chances of an opening in 5th grade, you never know. There are usually a few slots every year at my daughter’s classical school. But I doubt any offer would come until late in the school year because the schools usually don’t know who is leaving until then.

    If you don’t get an offer, I would definitely try again next year and look at the IG (International Gifted) programs at Lincoln and Ogden. This is a middle school program that begins with 6th grade, so there are the more openings then.

  • 58. jen  |  February 10, 2012 at 6:25 pm

    Relocating to Chi May or June with kids – oldest will be in first grade next year. Does anyone if there’s a way for out of town families to apply from out of town and take the gifted test after the Dec 2011 deadline and apply for g and t for 2012/2013 school year? Thanks for your help!

  • 59. cpsobsessed  |  February 10, 2012 at 7:10 pm

    Unfortunately they are strict about the test cutoff. Probably can’t hurt to call the office of academic enhancement ( and see what they say, just in case.

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  • 60. Wondering  |  February 13, 2012 at 9:27 pm

    Wondering, Hi ALL i was wondering if any parents had information about the new STEM school or had children that go thier. I’m wondering about their ciriculum? thanks…

  • 61. Matt Kelley  |  February 13, 2012 at 11:16 pm

    Yes, unfortunately CPS Gifted is all wrapped up until next year. Bummer. Get ready for next year’s test as you are now ahead of the game.

    Matt Kelley
    Selective Enrollment Test Prep Services

  • 62. LSmom  |  February 14, 2012 at 5:38 am

    @jen, Although time is up for applying to a CPS-administered gifted program, there are schools that have their own internal gifted programs, and those might be a possibility. Ones I know of are Blaine and Hamilton, although there are others.

  • 63. marshall kordon  |  February 27, 2012 at 9:25 am

    Our child attends a city private school. In anticipation of the high school selective enrollment process, I noticed many parents who send their kids to private schools in the city apply for and take the isat’s (our child takes the iowas). How does one go about doing this? Thanks you

  • 64. cpsobsessed  |  February 27, 2012 at 9:38 am

    If you check the current thread about high school letter I think people mention it there. It is long but you can do a search on the page. Otherwise start by calling the office of academic enhancement ( I think.)

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  • 65. Jen  |  February 27, 2012 at 9:45 am

    Jen, here is the list of schools that have their own internal gifted program. I’m not sure how you get your child into the program once they are enrolled, but there’s no test deadline to worry about.

  • 66. Wondering  |  March 14, 2012 at 11:00 am

    Hi ALL its the 14th i wonder if anyone got their acceptance letters yet?

  • 67. cpsobsessed  |  March 14, 2012 at 11:22 am

    Letter are due to mail the week of march 26th. Which means friday march 30th. 🙂

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  • 68. Wondering  |  March 14, 2012 at 11:24 am

    @ cpsobsessed oh wow! on your page up top it says march 14-16 -> confussed

  • 69. cynthia napiorkowski  |  March 16, 2012 at 5:13 pm

    i had my child tested this year and the person whom givin her the test told me sitter whom took her to the testing place in chicago told her that i would get a letter in the mail around the 15 of march does any one know how long it takes to get the test scores back and does any one knows where i can call to find out

  • 70. SW Side Momma  |  March 16, 2012 at 7:29 pm

    Thanks for the update. I have been obsessing since the HS letters went out.

  • 71. BevDad  |  March 17, 2012 at 6:41 pm

    I really don’t think there is any link to the length of time it takes to test and acceptance. My oldest tested 2 years ago for kindergarten, was in about 10 minutes, and got a very high score and acceptance into our first choice. The system is what it is, it’s a mystery, learn to accept it.

  • 72. Disgusted  |  March 21, 2012 at 11:52 am

    We’re waiting for our letter for kindergarten too, though we’re so disgusted by CPS’s shell game that we’ll probably go to the private school we already got into. As for length of time taking the test: my son was in for about 20 min. Two of his friends were in for 40 min. and 12 min. respectively. The 12-min. friend has been reading chapter books for two years, can write full paragraphs of her own composition, and is one of the smartest kids I’ve ever seen. All three kids were over five when they took the test, and all three passed the test to get into Northwestern’s gifted enrichment program. I just don’t think you can go by test length.

    Someone did tell me that you should ask your child if they had any questions about coins. Supposedly, the coin questions are more advanced, so if they got that far it’s a good sign. But who knows.

    What frosted me was that I went out of my way to keep it all lowkey, went out of my way not to call it a test. We got there and the guy said to my son, “Hi, I’m so-and-so and I’ll be your teacher today. We’re going to go into the next room and take a test!” I could visibly see him freeze up. That night, he told me he wished he hadn’t gotten so many questions wrong on “the test,” even though he didn’t even know what the stakes were or what constitutes “so many wrong.” ALL kids are going to get a lot wrong, because they test UNTIL the kids stop getting the questions right. And that night he woke up with a bad stomach-ache, which has never happened before. No other symptoms to indicate true illness, and he was fine the next morning. I can only think the stomach-ache was from stress.

    WHY DO WE HAVE TO PUT OUR KIDS THROUGH THIS GARBAGE just to get them into a decent PUBLIC school? It is beyond disgusting.

  • 73. RUMC Mom  |  March 21, 2012 at 3:49 pm

    @Disgusted, re: the word “test”, the same thing happened to me when I took my son. For months I prepared him for the day when he would go play the “smart game”; I wanted him to be confident and feel no pressure. At the test site, three kids went back around the same time, the other two testers were friendly and introduced themselves as teacher for today. The person who took my son said, “Hi, are you ready for your test?” I did not appreciate it at the time, but after my son came back he seemed fine. He was the second to go back and the last to come out, but overall his group tested between 8-15 mins.

    I hope your son gets into a great school.

  • 74. momof3boys  |  March 22, 2012 at 12:04 pm

    wouldn’t it have been better to just prepare your child and say it’s a test? i’ve always been up front with my kids so there are no surprises. i mean why down play it? i guess i just don’t understand. i told my child that he was taking a test to see if he could get into another school. he asked, “why?” and i said, “because we want to see and don’t worry about it.” and we never spoke about it again until the letters were delivered.

  • 75. RUMC Mom  |  March 22, 2012 at 2:02 pm

    @momof3boys re: your question, i mean why down play it? i guess i just don’t understand.

    I think the learning process and experience should be fun, don’t you? The perspective of fun learning is why my son knows as much as he does. He’s into learning games and loves winning challenges. So, if winning games is what my son loves, why not motivate him to “win” a chance to have a good education without saying it directly. He didn’t have to ask me why and I didn’t have to tell him don’t worry about it. My approach eliminated the worry factor, which is why I think most of the testing staff used a similar approach stating, “I’ll be your teacher for today”.

    Every child is different and parents know what works for their child. There is no right or wrong way, just different ways that should all be respected.

  • 76. RGCFAN  |  March 23, 2012 at 7:48 pm

    Well everyone its about that time. Letter time! ACs, RGCs, Magnets, Classicals. We’re all nervous. Some of us will get in and some will not. Best of luck to all!

  • 77. momof3boys  |  March 24, 2012 at 10:41 pm

    It was just a simple ?. Ur right, ur approach is ur way and what I did was mine. I just didn’t understand because when ur child gets into school basically that all they talk about- taking tests so he should just get used to it.

  • 78. momof3boys  |  March 24, 2012 at 10:45 pm

    I hit enter before I finished… My son only asked why because he wanted to know we were thinking about switching schools. But since I’m the parent and he was only 6, I didn’t feel he needed to know why.

  • 79. Katherine Parodi  |  March 26, 2012 at 6:30 pm

    Could someone please explain a bit in regards of the tests scores for Gifted and Classical Kindergarten?

  • 80. Lisa  |  March 26, 2012 at 6:39 pm

    Tier 2
    No offers

    Gifted 141
    Classical Reading 76
    Classical Math 91

  • 81. Kat P.  |  March 26, 2012 at 8:57 pm

    Thanks Lisa! But just to clarify, is it 141 points? Or score?

  • 82. parent  |  March 26, 2012 at 11:51 pm

    in bell neighborhood tested into edison gifted – any advice

  • 83. Kat P.  |  March 26, 2012 at 11:56 pm

    My son’s scores are:

    Gifted 98
    Classical reading 92%
    classical math 80%

    how are the chances of us getting a call?

  • 84. cpsobsessed  |  March 27, 2012 at 8:17 am

    @kat p – depends on the school nd your tier. But probably unlikely, unfortunately. Again, the test score often does not reflect the reality of how smart a child is so scores could change a lot next year.

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  • 85. momof3boys  |  March 27, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    @82 my son loves edison! i dont know much about the priamry grades but i heard it’s all about the upper grades that makes edison a really great school.

  • 86. Rocky M.  |  March 27, 2012 at 1:34 pm

    my daughter’s score was

    reading percentile: 82
    math percentile: 98
    regional gifted center score: 122

    Any chance for a classical school for kindergarten?
    Any reason to try testing again next year?

    Thank you in advance for your feedback

  • 87. Kat P.  |  March 27, 2012 at 5:45 pm

    @84, thanksnfor the answer!

    I am very dissapointed. My son had surgery 3 weeks before his test and at the time of the test he had a very bad infection. He was not able to move or listen very well. I tried changing the date but cps was unable to give another date.

    What about general list at Boone 3, Burr 25, Hawthorne 117? And tier 4 for Disney II 8?

    Thanks in advance!

  • 88. Bruce  |  March 28, 2012 at 5:08 pm

    Disney ll is great. High scores, building, great teachers. My daughter is in the tuition based pre-k. We’re to far down on the list for kindergarten but at no.8 you might have a shot.

  • 89. Kat P.  |  March 28, 2012 at 6:08 pm

    Thanks Bruce! I really hope so, the last three days I have been very anxious.
    Hopefully I’ll be seeing you next year 🙂

  • 90. AC  |  March 30, 2012 at 8:18 am

    Does anyone know what type of test they give for RGC? is it like the OLSAT? Stanford Binet? at what are do the results mean? is RGC the IQ?
    this may be out of scope, but does CPS post the scores for those students that were accepted? can they be requested based on the freedom of information act? i know that they accept the brightest of the brightest, and i would like to believe that politics are not involved (but we live in chicago, and politics can play a huge role).

    Tier 4
    RGC: 133

    No offers: Decatur was our first choice (we live a block and a half away)…

  • 91. CAlan  |  March 31, 2012 at 10:40 pm

    My son was offered a place in Lenart RGC. Does anyone have any feedback on Lenart. Is it true that all they do is worksheets after worksheets? Also, is there anyone in the South Loop (near 26th street) who’s child goes to Lenart RGC?

    We also really like Andrew Jackson but was waitlisted Tier 2 #87. Is there a chance he would get in that school?

  • 92. Ramona  |  April 17, 2012 at 12:14 pm

    Spoke with Hawthorne this morning where my daughter is #15 tier 4 and I was told they probably would only get to #5 on the list. They pretty much said she has no chance!

  • 93. yogita  |  June 19, 2012 at 8:17 am

    My son scored for classical schools
    Reading 98
    Maths 96
    Till date he is not selected. Interesting thing is that we came to know another kid who has scored less than my son and he is in the same tier(4) as of us (from same building) That kid scored…..
    Reading 99
    Maths 91
    has been selected for classical school (Skinner north) two weeks back.

    We have contacted CPS by email & by phone also & we have not received any responce to e-mail. And on telephonic conversation they say that my son has not been selected because of age criteria as he is older than other kid which is no where written in selcection criteria.

    I request parents whose kids scored more marks than the kid who got selected & yet not received anything from CPS please email me ( so that we can see if we can fight for it.

  • 94. EastLoopMom  |  June 19, 2012 at 8:27 am

    @ 93 yogita
    Were both scores for children entering kindergarten?

  • 95. EastLoopMom  |  June 19, 2012 at 8:35 am

    and do you know the actual birthday of the younger child?

  • 96. yogita  |  June 19, 2012 at 8:49 am

    Yeah both are entering kindergarden & my son born on 5th September 2006 how ever I don’t know birth date of other child but that kid must be 5 year old by Sept 2012. As per rules….

  • 97. cpsobsessed  |  June 19, 2012 at 8:53 am

    CPS has said before that the child’s birthdate is taken into account, so they must be scaled in some way.
    Also, from previous posts here, it appears that there are subsections of the test that seem to hold greater weight when ranking the placements. Just to be clear, are you talking about 2 kids applying to the same school?

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  • 98. yogita  |  June 19, 2012 at 8:57 am

    Yeah both r appling for same school.

  • 99. Matt Kelley  |  November 18, 2012 at 9:38 pm

    I an scared that with all these early testing dates CPS is miving to a rolling admissions policy for SEES, What are your thoughts?

  • 100. cpsobsessed  |  November 18, 2012 at 9:39 pm

    What do you mean by “rolling admissions” ?
    And which tests being early?

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  • 101. Matt Kelley  |  November 18, 2012 at 9:55 pm

    RGC & Classical have had test dates of Nov 7, 15, and now Dec 1 for KG students I know of. Rolling admissions is the process of filling slots as they get students. My fear is that they won’t just be sitting on those scores for months, but actually filling slots with them. However, I tend to worry more because I prep kids for the test (full disclosure).

    Matt Kelley

  • 102. cpsobsessed  |  November 18, 2012 at 9:57 pm

    I don’t see how they could do that since they need all the scores ranked, right?

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  • 103. Matt Kelley  |  November 18, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    Therefore, they may all be filled before deadline even comes, thus, the prepping kids lose out, as their parents tend to wait until the deadline to apply in order to have more time… Scary. But why would they test so early otherwise. And they have a precedent of changing things midstream as they did when they inserted the tiers (after the deadline).

  • 104. Matt Kelley  |  November 18, 2012 at 10:00 pm

    Also the rankings are based on national norms. Thus they could use those right? We are pretty sure we know what the test is, and that is nationally normed and offers percentiles they could use easily. Talk via phone or email? I worry these comments may make parents unnecessarily anxious if I am wrong.

  • 105. cpsobsessed  |  November 18, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    No, the rankings for the Rank spots and then the spots handed out for tiers are truly ranked so they can’t assign them early using the current system. What if a bunch of kids score high in december? I can’t see how it would work.
    The percentile scores are compared to natl norms but then they are ranked within cps to allot the seats.

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  • 106. Matt Kelley  |  November 18, 2012 at 10:06 pm

    Not sure… It just really worries me a bit that all these tests are coming so fast. I may be completely wrong.

  • 107. Matt Kelley  |  November 18, 2012 at 10:09 pm

    You’re probably right. It would be hard to figure otherwise.

  • 108. Chicago School GPS  |  November 18, 2012 at 10:16 pm

    CPS absolutely, positively does not do “rolling admissions”. As a matter of fact, because they had so many applicants last year and ended up testing later in the winter than anticipated to accommodate everyone, they actually pushed back the notification date to be sure they included all the scores in the final ranking list. From there, they go by highest to lowest scoring students and award seats according to what each applicant applied to. It all comes down to numbers, as CPSO stated.

  • 109. OutsideLookingIn  |  November 18, 2012 at 10:18 pm

    Matt – what you’re worrying about doesn’t make sense. Why would a selective enrollment school, which admits based on test scores, use rolling admission? If my kid bombs the test but takes it on the very first day, will Edison admit my kid? If you believe that test prep really does give a kid an advantage, I would think that the kid taking the test early would be at a disadvantage…less prep time, right?

  • 110. Matt Kelley  |  November 18, 2012 at 10:21 pm

    This from a company that is connected to Karen Quinn ( and derives profit from helping get students in SEES schools… No conflict of interest there. No offense, but you have no more of an idea of what’s going on than I or anyone else does. CPS will do what CPS wants, regardless of the impact. The strength of your conviction actually causes me more worry than putting me at ease. CPS shares none of this info, and would certainly not do it with a for-profit organization such yours or my own.

  • 111. Matt Kelley  |  November 18, 2012 at 10:24 pm

    They would use the rolling admissions to target parents prepping and ensure the true beneficiaries that they had attempted to reach in the first place (minority, low-socioeconomic) through the tiers, actually get a shot, while all the affluent parents wait and prep their children. Though I could be absolutely wrong. I hope I am…. I would have to write a lot of refund checks to parents…

  • 112. WRP Mom  |  November 18, 2012 at 11:30 pm

    Matt- The tests don’t seem any earlier than previous years. My understanding is the earlier you submit your application, the earlier the testing date. I’ll give you my personal experience..when applying for K years ago, I submitted the app on the last day, my daughter tested in Feb, and she got a 1st round offer to our first choice SEES school. Last year, she applied to academic centers. App was submitted 3rd week in November, testing was a week before Christmas. Again, got an offer to her 1st choice school (rank spot). I personally don’t believe there are any “rolling admissions” going on. BTW, we did zero test prep. In my opinion, I don’t feel it helps much with gifted tests.

  • 113. Christine Whitley  |  November 18, 2012 at 11:42 pm

    These testing dates aren’t any earlier than they’ve been in years past. They have some 18,000 kids to test so it behooves them to test as the applications come in rather than waiting until after the Dec. 14th test date. I do know that they had significantly more applications last year than the year before that so maybe (for once) CPS is making a good choice and not trying to squeeze all the testing into a short 8-week window.

    I hear what you’re saying though, Matt, about CPS using their own private calculus to get the racial and SES results they want. Just don’t see any evidence of that being a concern at the moment.

  • 114. cpsobsessed  |  December 26, 2012 at 11:13 am

    I just found this on a CPS document from 2008: (so it may have evolved since then.)

    What is the nature of the tests?
    The tests are carefully chosen by CPS because they are highly standardized instruments tailors to he particular ages and academic potential of the students tested. Before such tests are ever put into general se, they go trough years of rigorous, extensive, and nationwide statistical validation and field testing on an enormous number of students. Therefore, we are not allowed to disclose the names of the tests or any specific questions on them. (CPSO — I’m not really following the logic on why that means they can’t disclose it, but good try!) Nevertheless, be assured that the tests are geared to the particular ages (which is why our knowing the birth date is so important) and developmental levels of the children. For the PreK children, each question is read aloud. The printing of letters or words may be included, where appropriate. For K-3 children, as they become older, the test materials advance more from pictures to words. By 3rd grade, there are sections of the test that the children are expected to be able to read to themselves and answer the questions.

  • 115. Tier 4  |  December 27, 2012 at 1:56 pm

    Smell’s like Olsat – key words “highly standardized” – “years of testing”

  • 116. IBobsessed  |  December 27, 2012 at 2:54 pm

    @115, every reputable, accepted measurement of intellectual potential or achievement is “highly standardized” and underwent “years of testing” . This is not unique to OLSAT.

    An observation- I have heard of kids testing wildly differently from one year to the next on whatever test CPS uses. If not explainable by other factors (traumatic brain injury, lack of effort), and if it occurs often enough, this getting wildly different scores from the same subject would result in rejection of the test itself as a valid testing instrument.

  • 117. cpsobsessed  |  December 27, 2012 at 3:06 pm

    @IBObsessed: the kids with huge swings in scores – would you say they’re really smart kids who managed to score well one year then missed it somehow another? Or can an average kid get lucky and score really well oe year by guessing? I was told once that the tests can give false negatives (meaning a gifted kid doesn’t test well) but not vice versa.

    My son’s scores have been very close with 3 tests now.

    Interestingly, the intelligence test I took last month, my score was identical my son’s last gifted test score (which was below true gifted level.). Some people rumor the gifted test to be similar to an IQ test so I thought that was interesting.

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  • 118. mil mom  |  December 27, 2012 at 4:16 pm

    We have definitely had the experience of wildly fluctuating scores in my family. Both of my boys scored much lower than I would have expected their first time taking the test. They are both bright at minimum but scored sqarely in the middle. The next year (testing for first grade) my older boy did even worse and my younger boy did somewhat better, well enough to get into a less popular RGC from tier 3. My middle kid, a girl, tested once for K and once going into 3rd, and her score was only one point away each time. My oldest is now in 8th grade and when he tested in middle school for the academic centers his scores were much higher than when he was little. I don’t blame the tests per se for but think that unfortunately for some kids, maybe more boys than girls, they are not quite confident/mature enough at ages 4/5 to shine in that sort of environment. At all. When the kids are older the test results should be more consistant unless a kid is one off on each answer or something.

    My youngest had to undergo full IQ testing as part of an evaluation for certain issues he was having at school. The difference in some of his subscores illustrated that it is probably deceptive that we are just given one whole number as the result for the CPS test, that could also explain some of the year to year differences maybe?

    Also, the last few years CPS seems to have used a test for incoming K that produces many more super high scores than would be expected on a standard bell curve. 135, the cut off for 99% on a standard bell curve, has not for the past 4 years, gotten in anywhere, from any tier, at least in the first round for K. (Five years ago, when my second kid tested, 135 would get you in almost anywhere). Not all test takers get a high score (such as my little boy) but there do seem to be many more super high scores than would be expected in any natural distribution. Testing for first grade, 135 seems to get you into your school of choice. From these observations it would seem likely that there are many kids who experience a big score drop b/t testing for K and 1. Then again all of this could change again if CPS has any energy to worry about this sort of thing and changes things up again.

    As for what test is used, at least one year they used the Olsat. When my oldest tested for first grade they did send us the whole score report and it was the olsat. I think they said at that time that they switched to different tests each year and would not tell you which test would be used ahead of time but they did reveal it after the fact. This was before things were done at IIT, since the IIT testing started they don’t reveal what test is used (in fact, CPS would not even tell the psychologist evaluating my son what test they gave him so she could make sure not to give him the same one. They were kind enough to tell her that he had not had the test she was planning to give after she named it).

    Glad I don’t have to worry about any of this for the next couple of years. 8th grader will stay at his AC (he is happy there and would not have the grades to transfer anyway), younger kids not at entry level grades. Best of luck to all going through the process this winter.

  • 119. Coonley Obsessed  |  December 28, 2012 at 4:14 pm

    Does everyone get access to Coonley’s subsidized aftercare? Inexpensive as can be, but open only to neighborhood children? or “gifted” too? How long will they continue to subsidize it now that the neighborhood is not low income?

  • 120. cpsobsessed  |  December 28, 2012 at 4:22 pm

    Coonley’s afterschool program is run by the Neighborhood Boys and Girls club which I believe subsidizes the program (or runs it at a low cost.) It is open to everyone and this past year was $1000 for the whole year which is an incredible bargain. It’s not a highly structured program, but it’s enjoyable because the kids get to hang out with their friends. I’d like to see more outside time, especially in the nice weather but I haven’t won that battle yet. I can’t tell how long this low rate will continue… I feel they could justify more of a sliding scale, personally. I can see it going up a little bit, but probably not dramatically. It went up from $800 to $1000 last year. I think their costs are pretty minimal so it’s probably at least breaking even. Even at double the price it would be a decent deal. It’s also a good way for the kids to interact with all the kids in their grade (and other grades) – especially the options kids who stay with the same kids year after year… good way to expand everyone’s horizons in terms of meeting more kids.

  • 121. anonymouse teacher  |  December 28, 2012 at 6:36 pm

    Wow. 1K a year for aftercare. That is amazing. What a gift to parents! I am so glad Coonley has that. My children’s former CPS school had a great after care program next door, but that ran about $400 a month (per kid). Their current school has a program that runs about $225 per week (per kid). 1K a month is a huge bargain. I am not sure there are any cheaper programs anywhere unless one qualifies for assistance of some kind.

  • 122. WRP Mom  |  December 28, 2012 at 8:22 pm

    Cheaper aftercare programs? How about the Park Kids program through the Chicago Park District? My daughter did that for 3 years and to me, that was the best bargain in town. The only reason why we stopped is she got too old (It’s for ages 6-12).

  • 123. Coonley Obsessed  |  December 28, 2012 at 8:54 pm

    Yeah it is very nxpensive! So hoping we can take advantage of it. Friends of mine pay 325 a month for public school aftercare. Coonley’s even watches the children on school days off for 10 dollars a day!!!! But parents there said something about the income going up n the area so the state won’t subsidize it for much longer. The price is cheaper than public assistance care I do believe!!! Great bargain!!!!

  • 124. Coonley Obsessed  |  December 28, 2012 at 8:57 pm

    WRP mom Coonleys right there at the school I do believe!!! Don’t have to figure out travel to the park district!

  • 125. cpsobsessed  |  December 28, 2012 at 9:07 pm

    There is also extensive and well-price activities after school, including some that are offered for free so every child can participate in something if they like. Considering the school is surrounded by million dollar homes (or ex-million dollar homes) it still runs very down-to-earth. Well, except the auction… 🙂

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  • 126. anonymouse teacher  |  December 28, 2012 at 9:08 pm

    @122, that is correct. I had forgotten about the park district. I guess I don’t really think about it because the park district program near my home isn’t safe enough to send my kids to–the kids are loud, aggressive and badly behaved–though I know many are very good and safe.

  • 127. RL Julia  |  December 29, 2012 at 12:34 pm

    From what I’ve heard, the park district programs really vary – from park to park and from year to year.

  • 128. Coonley Obsessed  |  December 29, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    I’d feel like we won the lottery 1000x if she gets in Coonley AND then we get the government subsidized nxpensive after school program! LOL! 100 a month for evry day after care + 10 per day for school days off is great!! I can afford that!

  • 129. AE  |  December 29, 2012 at 6:24 pm

    @115. I’m not convinced CPS is using the OLSAT — or at least not only the OLSAT. I’ve had three kids take the RGC test (one has taken it multiple times). When I’ve shown them sample OLSAT questions (from the NYC sample test packets), they’ve all told me that some questions are similar, but other questions are unlike anything on the OLSAT. For example, they have all been emphatic that there are no matrix questions. Also, when I questioned one of the IIT testers last year, I was given the impression that the CPS doesn’t use a complete, single test (like the OLSAT) but rather a selection of sub-tests. If the test is, in fact, either an incomplete test or a unique creation cobbled together from different tests, I wonder how valid (or “standardized”) it can be, and how it is normed.

    As far as fluctuating test scores, my one child who has taken the test several times has scored higher each year, but still within about a 6 point range (Note: but did not take the test for Kindergarten when scores seem to be the highest and most prone to dramatic fluctuation the next year). Interestingly, full IQ testing (for a specific learning concern) revealed my child’s IQ is about 10 pts higher than the highest RGC score received. I guess we’ll find out in a few months how this year’s testing went. (For what it’s worth, the test seems to be different for third graders, testing for a fourth grade spot. Not sure if this will be for better or worse.)

    Good luck everyone.

  • 130. Matt Kelley  |  March 5, 2013 at 7:41 pm

    This is a bit off, but don’t know where to put it otherwise. I created a compilation of articles on the best foods to eat for testing, ISAT and giftd and posted it here: Hope it might help.

  • 131. Jen  |  April 11, 2013 at 3:29 pm

    My 3rd grader took the Cogat at school today and came home and told me it was the exact same test as the Classical test she took back in January. She’s also taken the OLSAT and didn’t make the same observation.

  • 132. cpsobsessed  |  April 11, 2013 at 3:40 pm

    Thanks @Jen – good to know!

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  • 133. Jen  |  April 11, 2013 at 8:27 pm

    You’re welcome!

  • 134. Jo  |  June 26, 2013 at 5:11 pm

    RGC – 117
    Reading – 99.6
    Math – 95
    Tier 3
    No offers . What are my other options?


  • 135. cpsobsessed  |  June 26, 2013 at 5:26 pm

    Jo, did you apply to any other schools?

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  • 136. Adam  |  June 26, 2013 at 5:54 pm

    For tier 3 the cut off two years ago was about 134 in the RGC if I remember right. I think the classical schools require 98 in both areas for any consideration.

  • 137. Jo  |  June 26, 2013 at 6:27 pm


    Wait list on both the Magnets school we applied (Disney,Blaine) and I called them but still no response as of today.

    Thanks for the info.

  • 138. Mary  |  August 2, 2013 at 11:30 am

    My son currently attends Coonley elementary which is our neighborhood school. At the end of the school year his teacher told me that he should test for gifted but that i missed the cut off for the next school year. He will be starting six grade this fall. What do I have to do to get him tested. On the website it says he has to pre-qualify.

  • 139. cpsobsessed  |  August 2, 2013 at 11:33 am

    @mary: I believe in the older grades you need certain isat scores to qualify to take the test (not sure if you have those scores yet.). I’d check to see if you can find the info — if not you can contact them (OAE office) online via that website to inquire. You should also consider testing for academic centers for 7th grade (info is also on that site.)

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  • 140. WRP Mom  |  August 2, 2013 at 8:55 pm

    @Mary, you should also check that website again in September for dates of upcoming open houses this fall. Good luck in your search!

  • 141. Chicago School GPS  |  August 6, 2013 at 8:31 am

    There are some Open House dates already posted to (be sure to click on the “More details” link at the bottom of a listing to get a dynamic link to the school’s website to confirm the date/time).

    Whitney Young’s AC is on 10/20 @ 10AM and Lane’s AC is on 11/3 at 10AM. Most public school RGC/Classical & Magnet open houses don’t get released until late September or into the fall and spring on CPSOAE’s website.

    As for applying to gifted programs for 5th grade on up:
    Apply one year before entry using standardized test scores two years before entry. The entrance test is taken after sending in the application, usually Nov to Feb.
    For RGC programs, the reading and math standardized test scores need to be at least in the 90th percentile, for Classical schools in the 80th, and for Academic Centers in the 70th.

  • 142. cpsobsessed  |  August 6, 2013 at 8:41 am

    What do you think about taking a 5th grader to an AC open house to see if they like the idea (and thus want to try for all As in fifth grade?) Or should the parent just say “you need good grades this year?

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  • 143. Even One More CPS Mom  |  August 6, 2013 at 9:16 am

    @142 CPSO – Might be more motivating for your 5th grader to attend the open house. If he really likes what he sees and wants that then it could be good motivation, probably better motivation than “because mom said so”. If he sees what the future ‘may’ hold ‘if’ he gets straight A’s, then he may be more likely to work towards that. If he doesn’t get straight A’s then perhaps at least he has the seed of SEHS planted in his head and will continue to work harder the next couple years so that he can try again to get in and achieve entrance for high school.

  • 144. Chicago School GPS  |  August 6, 2013 at 9:41 am

    That is one that I have to say, depends on the child. If the 5th grader is one who tends to be motivated by the thought of going to Taft, Lane, Morgan Park, Harlan, Kenwood, Lindblom or Whitney Young in 7th, then by all means, take them there in 5th to get them excited/motivated. If, however, a kid may be overwhelmed by the “big kids” then it could backfire and it would be better just to work with them to get good grades that year. A lot of growing happens between 5th and 6th grade so what appears overwhelming to them in fall of 5th grade will not necessarily be as daunting in 6th.

    I would definitely recommend parents attend at least one open house during their child’s 5th grade year, if possible, for families entertaining ACs. These open houses tend to be overwhelming affairs and dipping your toes in slowly to learn the ropes is a good policy.

  • 145. Wonderer  |  September 29, 2013 at 2:16 pm

    What would be the best CPS school for a would be first grader (currently in KG) and a highly gifted child? This kid reads at least third grade level (chapter books), started division after mastering addition, subtraction and multiplication, has enormous interest in science (favorite book is Matter Matters!), and scored unusually high in gifted and classical kindergarten tests. He goes to a renowned selective enrollment school but it seems the school is unable to feed his appetite for science and math. Parents are flexible to relocate but can’t afford a private school.

  • 146. Calvin  |  September 29, 2013 at 2:41 pm

    Maybe one that stresses humility. The kid is obviously not getting much of that at home.

  • 147. local  |  September 29, 2013 at 2:50 pm

    @ 146. Calvin | September 29, 2013 at 2:41 pm

    Oh, please. The challenges of a gifted kid can be just as profound as a kid with learning disabilities, etc. Would you say something in the same vein about those kids?

  • 148. Calvin  |  September 29, 2013 at 2:55 pm

    That is a pretty average score. The kid would be fine anywhere.

  • 149. Ginny  |  September 29, 2013 at 2:58 pm

    Calvin is right. Mid 140s is pretty normal for the RGC. And you do sound a bit full of yourself.

  • 150. cpsobsessed  |  September 29, 2013 at 3:01 pm

    Regardless of the specific child/parent, can anyone recall the schools and/or thread that mentioned some options for super gifted kids beyond RGC? If I recall, there aren’t a lot of good public options, is that right? But I feel like one of the teachers who post here had mentioned something.

  • 151. WRP Mom  |  September 29, 2013 at 5:44 pm

    Wondering, your description sounds like a lot of kids in classical/RGC’s. As you are finding out, CPS version of gifted education really is more accelerated than anything else. Is your son happy at his present school or is he bored? Maybe you can supplement his interests? When you have your parent teacher conference, try asking his teacher for suggestions.

  • 152. anonymouse teacher  |  September 29, 2013 at 7:22 pm

    Quest Academy-Palatine
    Science and Arts-Desplaines
    Avery Coonley- Downers Grove (many of the kids I know who went there went on to Exeter or Andover Academy for high school)
    IMSA-Aurora (high school)

    Not sure if IMSA charges tuition, but the others will cost you close to 20K per year. If that’s unaffordable, you might consider supplementing with CTD at NU, Worlds of Wonder (or something like that) through a university I can’t remember. Many colleges offer pretty interesting programs for kids over the summer.

  • 153. Christine Whitley  |  September 29, 2013 at 7:32 pm

    I wonder of STEM Magnet School might be more to his liking? It’s not accelerated like an RGC but would definitely feed his interest in Math/Science. Also, parents might try Northwestern’s Center for Talent Development which offers some really cool extracurricular courses.

  • 154. Oldtowncpsdad  |  September 29, 2013 at 8:46 pm

    145. Wonderer: Quite a few of my daughter’s K SEES classmates are pretty much at the same level. Have you considered to let your child skip a few grades? Or you can just get plenty of books to satisfy his/her appetite.

    I’m not exactly gifted. I was at least 3-4 grades ahead when I was a child. My parents let me skip quite a few grades. The school work still was too easy, but I was not bored because I spent most of my time in class reading whatever I wanted. I could have gone to college at 15, but my parents didn’t think I was ready, so I went to college at 16. In college and graduate school, I met quite a few truly gifted people, for example, a friend of mine got his PhD in electrical engineering at 21. After this many years, I found that there is little difference between me, friends that never skipped a grade, and those who are truly gifted. Success in career and life has more to do with perseverance and luck than early giftedness.

    Thinking back, I wouldn’t want the same for my kids. Always being the youngest was not a good feeling. As a parent, I would supply more materials, opportunity to enrich his/her learning than pulling him/her too much ahead.

  • 155. IB obsessed  |  September 29, 2013 at 10:25 pm

    @145, based on your description that sounds like average gifted. Highly gifted children are doing algebra and chemical formulas. Given him plenty to read at home, check out classes at kids science labs,, and wait a few years; his SE classmates’ skills will better reflect their innate ability, and he probably will not stand out so much.

  • 156. Wonderer  |  September 29, 2013 at 10:45 pm

    Thanks all who provided valuable insights and information. Sorry, if it sounds we are passing our complacency regarding a ‘super kid’ to boast ego. We are puzzled in many occasions where his performance is lower than average kids. This may cast his character: he struggles to zip his jacket or tie his she strings but can add a negative and positive integer (it has to be simple though). We face similar and many other unique challenges and want to know where he stands.

    We thought about skipping grades but not sure whether this is the best option. We want him to grow with his contemporaries and unwilling to insert the idea that he is something different. We try to supplement his interest and let him read whatever he picks. As well, we have stopped teaching anything (especially math since last November) fearing that he would be too ahead of his class. The school’s math homework is beginner’s level and he hardly shows any interest. He loves to do science experiments and we try to do as much as we can at home. However, we feel our limitations and expect professional/ institutional intervention for him.

  • 157. MD  |  September 30, 2013 at 9:10 am

    @156 My son had a playmate who was highly gifted & it was obvious to me by the time the child was 6months (the parents didn’t realize how unusual their child’s was as he was their first child) The parents first moved to Highland Park but were quickly told prior to K that the public school system would be unable to accommodate their son. No RGC is designed for this type of child. Despite limited resources, they ended up enrolling him at Quest I believe. I recall that the school he went to had every subject at the same time so for ex. If you were in 1st grade but capable of math at the 7th grade level you would go to the 7th grade math class.

  • 158. New to CPS  |  September 30, 2013 at 9:44 am

    @ Wonderer – In my experience both as a student who was an advanced learner and a parent of a K student who is the same (and also at an SEES school) as parents I don’t think we CAN “expect professional/institutional intervention” at school. Unless you are going to one of the very specialized schools noted in a post above or possibly a place with unconventional learning methods like a Waldorf, etc (and I don’t have any real first hand experience to with any of these to even know if it is the case) our school systems are usually designed to support the “average” child. The kids who can’t keep up get more attention than those who are advanced, but both are too often left to figure it out on their own. The benefit I see of having an advanced learner vs. a struggling one is that they often are often self-motivated learners and can find ways to engage themselves if given opportunities to do so. That’s what I did as a kid. And as my parents did for me, it us up to us parents to seek out opportunities outside of school if necessary and work as best as we can with the school teachers to allow for ways to keep them engaged in the classroom. There are plenty of things that need to learned that aren’t academic at these early ages. To my surprise our biggest challenge with our daughter this year is helping her not rush or be messy with her homework, even though she might know how to do it. The content isn’t so much the learning for her right now as much as the process of “showing what you know” in a way the teacher can actually see it (not covered with doodles!). I’ve also put a different perspective on what the learning might be for her in other areas where she is ahead of the curriculum. For example, she can read every word and more that is being sent home (also reading chapter books now) but that doesn’t mean with a blank piece of paper in front of her and just a pencil that she always remembers how to spell them correctly so working on these easy word lists each week is good practice for her from a spelling stand point, if not a reading one. Your son may not be challenged by his school math, but if the challenge right now is in learning to zip and tie or other “social/self help skills” then engage him in tackling those things also. We’ve added “shoe tie homework” for our daughter to help her with that as well (2 practice ties after regular homework each night) and she was almost more excited about that b/c it challenged her more than the school homework! It isn’t easy, but I think it is important that as parents while we can want the best for our kids, we also need to be realistic as to what school is. Best of luck as you figure out the right balance, or right school, for your son.

  • 159. @ wonder  |  September 30, 2013 at 10:27 am

    @wonder – I have that same child and have opted to let up on him. Why not let your develop the skills that do not come so easily to him, instead of reinforcing the exceptional skills. Sign him up for gymnastics or karate to work on his gross motor skills. Art or music classes to develop his fine motor skills. And simply let him play outside instead of doing piles of homework. He will only be a little boy for a very short time – allow him to revel in it and improve some of the skills that could use improvement. When he is 16 or so he will leave home for MIT or Stanford and THAT will be the time to obsess over quantum physics. Let your little boy be a little boy….

  • 160. JLM  |  September 30, 2013 at 12:50 pm

    No CPS school is going to be able to truly handle a very gifted child – it’s just not going to happen. My daughter goes to a classical school, and they work 1 grade level above in reading and math, but everything else, including writing, science, etc., is at grade level. I believe some RGCs might work as high as 2 levels ahead, but not 100% sure.

    I am dismayed that CPS spends so much time on math and reading to the exclusion of other things, but that is what they get tested on, so everything else get pushed aside.

    Have you seen what programs are available after school for your child? Our school offers Mad Science, piano, etc. And I agree that you can focus on developing non-academic skills that he may be at level or behind at – tying shoes, riding a bike, swimming, etc. Also, maybe spend time on writing, handwriting, cursive, etc.

    It truly does stink – my daughter is well ahead in reading, but not as much in math (she’s advanced, but not doing division or anything), and has told me she is bored at school because she already knows everything they’re doing. She was fine in preschool b/c, even though the work was behind her academically, b/c there was plenty of free/play time. Unfortunately, that’s not the case come K.

    Best of luck.

  • 161. SEES Parent  |  September 30, 2013 at 1:55 pm

    As an SEES parent and as an overachieving type kid myself growing up, I don’t think there are really that many truly gifted kids in SEES, by which I mean truly gifted in the sense where s/he cannot be accommodated in a regular SEES classroom. Maybe there is one such kid per class, if that (and it’s not my kid). Everyone else should get over themselves, for the most part. I think their kids’ needs will be easily met in SEES and with some supplementing by the parents and self directed study by the kids.

    There are plenty of very smart kids, who excel and are advanced in different areas, but not sure they are truly gifted in the sense of needing different forms of teaching. I have noticed that SEES parents tend to focus on their respective kids’ strengths…

  • 162. Jo  |  September 30, 2013 at 2:03 pm

    My 5 years didn’t get any offer from cps schools we applied and now she goes to private school.She loves going to school but gets bored as they are learning to write numbers till five.She could write till 200 when she was three and half years old and solve math problems besides adding and subtraction.She was reading chapter books ,newspapers etc

    Now we stopped her from getting further with her reading and math and instead we focus on writing stories ,poem, ballet ,music,geography and solar system etc ..

    About the test day experience ,explain your child about the testing day very clearly and if your child is not ready being with stranger, then you might want to think twice.

    The testing lady was not very friendly in our case.She walked inside the waiting room and called my daughter’s name .She said ‘Hi’ and we walked outside the hallway ,turned around and said to me “you are not allowed beyond this line” .
    My daughter got nervous the very second and kept looking back while walking down the long hallway.
    I am still confused because from what I read, if the child has separation issue,parents are allowed to sit inside the room with them for sometime till they are comfortable.
    I asked the other lady sitting on the desk and she “NO”

    Good luck

  • 163. ChicagoMomofBoys  |  September 30, 2013 at 2:17 pm

    This whole dialogue reminds me of a conversation I once had with a kindergarten teacher who works in a very prestigious, wealthy Chicago suburb. She said that parents frequently pull her aside at the start of the school year to explain how their child is gifted and requires special instruction. Of these, she’s been surprised to soon discover that very few of these children has been gifted in the slightest and, in the majority of situations, has actually performed below average. I’m not saying this is the case here (it most likely isn’t), but it’s a good reminder that most parents think their children are the smartest, funniest, sportiest, cutest, etc.

    @162: I doubt this to be true, as I’ve never heard it.

  • 164. Christine Whitley  |  September 30, 2013 at 3:09 pm

    @162 Jo — not sure where you heard that, but it’s not true.

  • 165. Jo  |  September 30, 2013 at 3:53 pm

    I can’t remember ..,must be on some blogs somewhere….

  • 166. anonymouse teacher  |  September 30, 2013 at 7:23 pm

    Wonderer, I have been thinking about what you said about how your child is advanced in some areas and then seemingly behind in others (if I understood you correctly). I don’t know how much you’ve read about gifted children, but this is really normal. Some kids are talented in one area or in a few areas and then not in others. And really, isn’t that true about all kids/people?
    I see that you are getting advice about helping your child to grow and be enriched in areas that are not his strength. There’s nothing wrong with that. But, some schools of thought really encourage growing the area of strength. Northwestern’s CTD believes in instructing kids in their area of strength and I think this is a good model. They have terrific programming in science for even the youngest children.

  • 167. local  |  September 30, 2013 at 8:04 pm

    Would intensive music training help a kid who’s a math wiz? Thoughts?

  • 168. Jami  |  October 1, 2013 at 5:17 am

    Is it better to fill out an application online or an actual paper application for the selective enrollment schools?

  • 169. Wonderer  |  October 1, 2013 at 9:27 am

    @ Anonymous Teacher 166

    Thanks for your thoughts and suggestions. With a single child, it is a quite learning curve for us too. We’re often puzzled by his adequacies vs. deficiencies and wonder the best approach to deal with each category. We read some earlier comments and feel that there are three schools of thought: some parents emphasize on filling up deficiencies. This is important, but only dealing with deficiencies (or disabilities) can’t be the right approach because it ignores strengths. Second thought, if I understand it correctly, is to let kids grow like kids. Implicit in this thought is ‘tiger parenting’. I am not sure what to say about it but it at least ignores natural abilities (genetic or something else) kids might have. Third school, as you suggest, is to emphasis on strengths. As parents, we want to deal with both deficiencies and adequacies concurrently. We can train him to overcome what he lacks but confused over how to deal with strengths.

  • 170. RR  |  October 9, 2013 at 12:18 am


  • 171. Chicago School GPS  |  October 9, 2013 at 12:25 am

    Learn about “What’s on the Test? CPS Gifted & Classical Testing & Admissions” on Sunday, Oct. 20 @ 11AM down at IIT’s campus (where the students take the tests). Space is limited and filling fast! This session is geared toward PK to 3rd grade parents (adults only).

    The founders of will be there to share their insights on the types of questions that can be expected on these tests (but unlike other cities, CPS does not disclose what tests they use). A little insight is always worthwhile, however, whether you overtly prepare your child or not.

  • 172. CPS parent  |  November 10, 2013 at 9:07 am

    Is there any data available on correlation between IQ test scores and the CPS gifted test?
    Our 6-year old received a 160 on the CPS gifted test 2 years ago, and an IQ test last year had her score at 146. Our 4-year old took the CPS test last week at IIT, and was given an IQ test (KBIT-2) this weekend to qualify her for the NU CTD program. Her composite IQ on that test was 143. We obviously will have to wait until the CPS results get mailed out, but we are interested in seeing if others have seen any kind of tight correlation between IQ and CPS scores, beyond the obvious. (In other words, does an IQ score above 145 = 160 on CPS, 140-145 = 150, etc.) Any studies or data out there?

  • 173. cpsobsessed  |  November 10, 2013 at 9:14 am

    I think given the nature of the RGC test being limited in scope and length the correlation would be loose at best. I’ve seen some really (blatantly) intelligent kids not ace the RGC test. Because CPS doesn’t consider the test to be an IQ measure I doubt they’d have conducted a study to validate it.
    But I would suspect there is a loose correlation.
    Interestingly, I took an IQ test last year and my score was the exact same score my son got on his last RGC test. Mostly a weird coincidence but assuming we’re of equal intelligence…

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  • 174. Warren  |  November 11, 2013 at 6:48 pm

    Out son is a first grader at Agassiz, and has been diagnosed with ADHD, and has an IEP. He also scored incredibly high on their IQ /reading / math tests… so this year we are doing the Gifted/Classical testing (for second grade). Do you know if there are any alterations made to the tests (like additional time) when a child has ADHD, or an IEP?

  • 175. lakeview dad  |  November 13, 2013 at 11:43 am

    My child tested last week for a k spot. Is the classical and gifted testing done at the same time or should I expect to get another testing date as well?


  • 176. cpsobsessed  |  November 13, 2013 at 11:48 am

    For kindergarten testing, gifted and classical are done together (assuming you selected both school types.)
    For 1st and up they are done separately.

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  • 177. Chicago School GPS  |  November 13, 2013 at 8:45 pm

    @174- whatever your IEP lists as accommodations should be provided for during the test sessions.

    If anyone is interested in getting insight into “What’s on the Test?” for CPS Classical & Gifted testing, join us on Sunday, Dec. 8 @ 2PM down at IIT’s campus (where the students take the tests). This session is geared toward PK to 3rd grade parents (adults only).

    The deadline to apply for the programs that require testing is Dec. 13, but the testing itself extends into February. Join us as insights from will be shared regarding the types of questions that can be expected on these tests (unlike other cities, CPS does not disclose what tests they use, but they do use a nationally normed test or two or three). Having an idea of what to expect can be helpful. Test strategies and tips will be discussed, along with the application, selection, and notification process.

  • 178. TimeForADoOver  |  November 15, 2013 at 9:34 am

    My child will be taking the 1st grade gifted and classical tests, which I understand will likely be administered on different days. Due to upcoming vacations and his test prep schedule, I prefer for him to test in mid-January at the earliest. I know that there are no guarantees, but with this in mind, when do you recommend submitting our application? Last year, I submitted it the last week of November and he got a testing date for the first week of January (only days after we returned from vacation)… but that was for kindergarten, obviously. I don’t want to cut it as close this year, so I’m leaning toward the first week of December. Thoughts?

  • 179. cpsobsessed  |  November 15, 2013 at 9:41 am

    I’d say probably end of the first week to be safe. If you’re okay going into feb, maybe wait til early the week of the deadline?
    (Knowing you could go into later feb for the test.)

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  • 180. TimeForADoOver  |  November 15, 2013 at 10:01 am

    Thanks, CPSO! I’m totally fine (and even prefer) going into later Feb., primarily for test prep purposes; however, it makes me nervous to cut it *that* close to the end of the testing cycle since he has to take the tests on two different days. So, 12/6 it is! And to think that I didn’t put an ounce of thought into this last year. Knowledge is power, but also a source of stress :/

  • 181. cpsobsessed  |  November 15, 2013 at 10:04 am

    “Knowledge is power, but also a source of stress :/”
    Haha so true!

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  • 182. Mama  |  November 30, 2013 at 4:21 pm

    Tomorrow my son will take test for classical schools – applying for 2nd grade. Any tips?

  • 183. AHM  |  November 30, 2013 at 8:48 pm

    cpsobsessed – anyway to find out RGC ISAT test scores separate from neighborhood schools? For example, Pritzker is a RGC and a Neighborhood School – anyway to separate ISAT scores to see how the RGC alone is performing?

  • 184. WesLooMom  |  December 1, 2013 at 4:12 pm

    Today, my child took the test for 1st grade. The upside to taking the 1st grade test: not obsessing about the amount of time that my child spent in the testing room. Everybody went in together, and everybody came out together. Now the wait begins. Good luck to all.

  • 185. Proud Papa  |  December 2, 2013 at 5:40 pm

    172. CPS parent | November 10, 2013 at 9:07 am

    Is there any data available on correlation between IQ test scores and the CPS gifted test?
    Our 6-year old received a 160 on the CPS gifted test 2 years ago, and an IQ test last year had her score at 146. Our 4-year old took the CPS test last week at IIT, and was given an IQ test (KBIT-2) this weekend to qualify her for the NU CTD program. Her composite IQ on that test was 143. We obviously will have to wait until the CPS results get mailed out, but we are interested in seeing if others have seen any kind of tight correlation between IQ and CPS scores, beyond the obvious. (In other words, does an IQ score above 145 = 160 on CPS, 140-145 = 150, etc.) Any studies or data out there?

    I can’t offer any scientific studies or hard data, but our son took the CTD test in the summer of 2012 and then took the CPS test a few months later and the results tracked very closely.

  • 186. TimeForADoOver  |  December 2, 2013 at 9:29 pm

    WesLooMom — Any other good-to-know tidbits about the 1st grade test? Was it gifted or classical? My son will be taking both next month…

  • 187. WesLooMom  |  December 2, 2013 at 11:22 pm

    TimeForADoOver — As usual, DD had very little to say about the test: she used a booklet and a pencil.

  • 188. EVmom  |  December 3, 2013 at 3:04 pm

    WesLooMom, how long did test take?

  • 189. RLWM  |  December 3, 2013 at 3:04 pm

    My 4 year old just finished testing. When I asked him what he did in the room he said “worked hard”. When I hacked how was I the said “fun”

  • 190. LSmom  |  December 3, 2013 at 7:14 pm

    Do we know for sure if they fill in scantron-style bubbles or mark on the booklet itself for first grade? It seems so crazy to have five-year-olds doing a bubble test.

  • 191. WesLooMom  |  December 3, 2013 at 10:37 pm

    TimeForADoOver – I forgot to say that the test was for classical.

    We were told that the test would take about 1 and 1/2 hours. I didn’t keep time, but DD’s group was gone at least one hour.

  • 192. TimeForADoOver  |  December 4, 2013 at 10:55 am

    1-1/2 hours… yikes!! I’ll never get my son to return for the second test, at least not without some major bribing 😉

  • 193. Even One More CPS Mom  |  December 4, 2013 at 11:13 am

    If I remember correctly from last year, they have group bathroom breaks during the 1st grade test so they are not sitting straight for 1-1.5 hours. It is broken up.

  • 194. parent  |  December 4, 2013 at 1:32 pm

    We were at the classical test this past weekend and the gifted test the week before (1st grade). My child confirmed that they had to “fill in circles” but I don’t know if it is a scantron. Also said that each kid “had their own book.” The administrator said the reason some groups take longer than others has to do with the bathroom break in the middle.

    As for bribing … WestLooMom were you at the 1 PM test on Sunday? This mom and her son showed up a little late, just as the last group was about to be led out. The kid demanded gum or he wouldn’t take the test (sounded like she said he could have gum if he took the test … obviously she meant afterwards!). As everyone waited and she apologized to everyone, she unwrapped his gum and he started chomping on it while he went to get in line. (There was a big sign that said no food or drink). The whole scene reminded me of Willie Wonka!

  • 195. Mom  |  December 10, 2013 at 4:54 pm

    I am not sure if this question has been answered before but how does it work if you have applied for a cps gifted / classical school and currently stay in a suburb , how do they calculate the tier

  • 196. cpsobsessed  |  December 10, 2013 at 5:07 pm

    My understanding is that they use your census tract to calculate it, same as they would in the city.

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  • 197. Chris  |  December 10, 2013 at 6:18 pm

    “My understanding is that they use your census tract to calculate [your suburban tier], same as they would in the city.”

    WHAAAAATTT?!?!?!?!??? The tiers are supposed to break down the city into 4 about equal student populations. How in the world do they slot the ‘burbs into that?

    I realize it’s a marginal issue, but still, that’s seriously goofy–suburbanites should only get offers based on rank (and I’m dubious about even that) *only*.

  • 198. mom  |  December 11, 2013 at 11:22 am

    @ 197 I agree that suburbanites should get offers only based on ranks.

  • 199. TimeForADoOver  |  December 11, 2013 at 3:41 pm

    Kind of interesting, albeit a bit one-sided:

  • 200. Reagan hanneman  |  December 19, 2013 at 10:26 pm

    My son took the gifted/ classical test today and was in the test for 40 minutes which seems really long since they told me twenty. Anyone know if that means anything? He talks a lot so he might have just prolonged the test asking questions. Thoughts???

  • 201. TimeForADoOver  |  December 20, 2013 at 4:32 pm

    I’m sick to my stomach. Today, we received 1st grade RGC and classical testing dates for my child. Not only are they one day apart on his ACTUAL BIRTHDAY (three hours of testing over two consecutive days for a newly minted six-year-old?!?!), but they both take place during winter vacation and, of course, we’ll be on vacation. I know that you can request one new date, but are two completely out of the question for an unavoidable situation such as this? Our trip’s been booked for 10 months! I’ve called the scheduling guy twice and haven’t heard back. Why should I? He’s probably on vacation, too! This whole thing seems ridiculous and unreasonable. Help!!!

  • 202. cpsobsessed  |  December 20, 2013 at 4:49 pm

    Ive had no trouble at all rescheduling in the past.
    I think people have checked out early today for the weekend everywhere but I bet you can figure it out next week.

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  • 203. TimeForADoOver  |  December 20, 2013 at 4:57 pm

    Thanks, CPSO. For an internet stranger, you always have a way of making me feel better 😉 The scheduling guy just called back and said that since I was assigned the latest testing dates set thus far, I need to re-contact him when we get back in town to see what else is available. According to him, there’s a 90% likelihood that I’ll get alternative dates. Huh… what… doesn’t testing go until at least early February?? So stressful!!!!!!

  • 204. Mama  |  December 20, 2013 at 6:44 pm

    Today, I received phone call from CPS to bring my son for classical test ( entering 2nd grade) for a second time. He took both classical and gifted tests about 2-3 weeks ago. They expleined that they want to make sure that he will receive the best score possible. Any idea why he needs to be tested for a second time?

  • 205. CPS parent  |  December 21, 2013 at 11:17 am

    #204- Got the same call yesterday- CPS said that my child “failed to answer questions that were not administered.” Basically they didn’t give our kids a page or two of the test (my assumption) and we have to go back in January to finish the test. They claimed that it should be about 15 minutes to finish the test.

  • 206. Testing  |  December 23, 2013 at 9:02 pm

    Time for a do over- Yes testing may go into February but those dates go to those who have not already received a test date. They get first priority. You are guaranteed one test date for each type of test. That is it. If they can fit you in, you can have a 2nd date but nobguarantee the second date will work for you. That is how it was explained to me .

  • 207. Olutoyin Araromi/Folashaye Araromi  |  December 27, 2013 at 3:43 pm

    Your immediate response will be highly appreciated. Thanks.

  • 208. cpsobsessed  |  December 27, 2013 at 3:59 pm

    @207, this is there you can find application information. The application session for the next school year is now closed for gifted programs. Please let us know if you have further questions.

  • 209. cpsobsessed  |  December 27, 2013 at 4:00 pm

    @204, I would say that whoever admnistered the test messed something up (forgot to give one of the tests, gave the wrong grade, left something out) and then realized it later and needed to re-administer.

  • 210. Hyde park mom  |  December 31, 2013 at 8:41 pm


  • 211. Yparent  |  January 2, 2014 at 3:00 pm

    My daughter had the gifted/classical test, and told me that she skipped some of questions. What does this mean? Is this a bad sign? She was in there over 40 mins.

  • 212. RandomParent  |  January 7, 2014 at 11:41 am

    @211 Yparent: What grade is your daughter testing for?

  • 213. AE  |  January 7, 2014 at 11:49 am

    At the 6th grade level (testing for 7th grade), is the academic center test the same as the regional gifted test?

  • 214. Chicago School GPS  |  January 7, 2014 at 12:15 pm

    Yes, the AC, IG and RGC tests are all one and the same. At least they have been in the past.

  • 215. Yparent  |  January 9, 2014 at 2:18 pm

    @212 RandomParent
    She will be entering K

  • 216. Applying to SEES  |  January 13, 2014 at 10:04 am

    For testing for 1st grade, does anyone know when the testing slots are? Are they only on weekends? What time are the slots? We got our letter but the slot is for a day we are out of town. I was hoping to get some idea of what the options are before calling them. Thanks very much.

  • 217. Dates  |  January 13, 2014 at 10:34 am

    @216. I had a Friday but it was during break. I think the goal is to administer the test on dates the kids won’t miss school, though testing does count as an excused absence. Since it is at IIT, testing on weekends since that is when facility is available.

    Your option is to keep the date you were given or take the next date they will give you via letter. There is no pick and choose a date that is convenient for you. They actually do not have to give you another date and will tell you so when you call. So you will be giving up a test date with no guarantee that you will get a replacement test date. If you get someone willing to go the extra step, they may tell you if it looks possible that you would be offered another date.

    Same thing happened to us and that is what we were told. Luckily the second date worked for us.

  • 218. Chris  |  January 13, 2014 at 11:42 am

    “Your option is to keep the date you were given or take the next date they will give you via letter. There is no pick and choose a date that is convenient for you. They actually do not have to give you another date and will tell you so when you call.”

    The key is to call to reschedule ASAP, as the testing dates start to run out. We have had someone test every year recently and twice have wound up with a reschedule on the last possible day (mis/late Feb) for that grade’s testing.

  • 219. OTdad  |  January 13, 2014 at 11:54 am

    @211. Yparent:
    🙂 Hard to tell. Generally, 40min is a good sign. My daughter tested for gifted/ classical last year and was out in 15~20min. She said she didn’t know the answer of 2 questions. We didn’t think it’s a good sign, but she did get into our 1st choice school. So, you can’t read much into it.

  • 220. TimeForADoOver  |  January 16, 2014 at 7:20 pm

    @216: I, for one, was successfully able to reschedule both the gifted and classical tests for 1st grade on my child’s behalf. It took A LOT of patience and perseverance, though. I must have called a dozen times on multiple days over the course of two weeks. In the end, I’m thrilled with his new dates and they even let me pick the times. All’s well that ends well!

  • 221. Lourdes  |  January 26, 2014 at 6:02 pm

    My daughter took the test for classical school in dec., She is 4 years and 4 months, her test lasted for 40 minutes, is this a good sign or not?, she said there were questions about coins. Any idea?

  • 222. cpsobsessed  |  January 26, 2014 at 6:04 pm

    Was the test only classical? Or classical and gifted?
    40 min is usually a good sign, but the scores needed to get in are often so very high that it’s hard to predict if that means “you’re in.”

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  • 223. Lourdes  |  January 26, 2014 at 6:11 pm

    The test was only for classical school. Thanks

  • 224. cpsobsessed  |  January 26, 2014 at 6:37 pm

    Seems promising, but again, there are so few spots and a good number of other kids who test well…

    Let us know how it works out!

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  • 225. RandomParent  |  February 2, 2014 at 11:32 pm

    My son just took the classical test yesterday. His group was out behind 2 other groups that were come after his. I asked him how he did. He said that they (the IIT instructors) told the group to stop on page 20. The entire test had 22 pages. What does that mean? Will that affect his score?

  • 226. TimeForADoOver  |  February 3, 2014 at 9:20 am

    @225: Was it for 1st grade? My son also took the classical test on 2/1 and his group skipped several pages as well, although somewhere in the middle. I asked his proctor about it, who explained that this is protocol per CPS. Apparently, there’s meaning to their madness (at least in this case) and it won’t have any bearing on the students’ scores.

  • 227. RandomParent  |  February 3, 2014 at 4:51 pm

    @225: Yes! We’ll see how he did when the result will be sent out in late March. Good luck to you!

  • 228. Scanpennett  |  February 3, 2014 at 10:52 pm

    I have an aspergers son that will be entering kindergarten next year. Selective Enrollment has been wonderful in holding off our testing date until we had our IEP. Now we are just waiting for our testing date. They keep telling me they will be contacting me soon. I’m getting nervous we will be forgotten. I’m also a bit worried about what test comes first. When I completed our application I selected everything I liked vs. everything I could possibly do via public transportation. Now, I’m not even sure I want him to go to a RGC after I read about the homework – I want him to be a kid too. Does anyone know which test comes first? His IEP states he should be given breaks between tests but…

    They just tested him 2 weeks ago and his reading was at a 5th – 6th grade level; they only had a 1st grade comprehension and he aced that; math is above grade level but nothing extreme – double digit addition and subtraction – I haven’t taught
    him anything due to core curriculum. Should we bother since we are in tier 4?

  • 229. Scanpennett  |  February 3, 2014 at 10:54 pm

    I’m kicking myself for not sending him to a test prep course. I know he has the ability.

  • 230. Scanpennett  |  February 3, 2014 at 10:56 pm

    I’m just a Mom that didn’t know better.

  • 231. Test  |  February 3, 2014 at 11:25 pm

    #228. I think he has a good shot at Classical Schools if he is at 5th/6th at reading and above grade level in Math, even at Tier 4. Some RGCs have more homework than others. The absolute worst homework load seems to be at Edison Gifted. The others don’t seem to be as intense as Edison in the upper grades. Also, RGC and Classicals provide free transportation to kids living within certain geographic areas (see OAE website for details for each). If you are nervous about being forgotten, just give OAE a call. The testing people are extra nice. They are used to parents calling. As a parent of a child with an IEP, you are going to have to get used to advocating for your child – best to start not being shy now! :). Really read your child’s IEP from the perspective of an extreme rule follower. How often does IEP say he needs breaks during testing? How long is break? What does he get to do during the break (eat, drink water)? Does your son need a snack or water during the break? If so, that must be included. If it is not in the IEP, the test giver will NOT due it, no matter that you think common sense means it is inferred from the IEP. Plus bring the IEP with you to the test, even though they say you don’t need it. Also, call OAE and ask who is the IEP person at the site – you just want to make sure they have the IEP and are all set to follow it. You don’t want anything to slip thru the cracks because there are no due overs. Plus you want to get there extra early to make sure everything is in order. When he gets to the testing center, the greeter will ask him personally for his name and birthdate a couple of times – must be a way to make sure parents aren’t sending in someone else’s child to test. If he is not comfortable doing so, just answer for him. What are they going to do? Also, if he gets to the testing center and won’t go with the test giver, ask them to reschedule him – hopefully you are not getting a late date so that their is time to reschedule. This option is available for kids without an IEP if there is room to reschedule. Good luck!

  • 232. Scanpennett  |  February 7, 2014 at 10:40 pm

    @231 Thank you! We received a call on 2/5 that we could test this Sunday, Feb 9th (they did mention they would be testing through the month of February). CPS Diverse Learners Department and Selective Enrollment Department have been amazing. Everything from our IEP process to postponing our test date has been painless. Your IEP tips are great and things I haven’t yet heard. I wasn’t going to bring along his IEP (although I thought about it) but I will be now. Because his IEP states he gets breaks between tests (and we missed the cut-off to drop RGC testing) they are administering the Classically Gifted test first. I’m not worried about him going with the test giver, he will go with the homeless guy on a cta bus (also listed in our IEP that he is too trusting with strangers). He will tell everyone that will listen that his birthday is …. so I’m not worried about that either. We do have busing accommodations listed on our IEP now (pre-k – although we have not yet been assigned a preschool) but, they told us it needs to be reviewed every year. I just don’t want him to sit on a bus for an hour to get to a school – that may just add more stress. If all else fails, our neighborhood school is is a great school, just not a good fit.

  • 233. lolamama  |  February 8, 2014 at 9:20 pm

    Hello all. I have a question. I feel very up in the air about what to do for my child next year (entering K). She took the gifted/classical tests and we applied to 5 of those schools, and about 12 other magnet/open enrollment schools. However, we have to be prepared for her not getting into any of the CPS schools that we’d be happy with. Our neighborhood school is just not an option. She is in a Catholic pre-school right now. The problem is that we had planned on that being our backup for CPS, but were informed by her pre-k teacher that we shouldn’t send her there for K (even though she has told us many times that she loves having our daughter in her class!). The teacher told us that the school would not be able to accommodate her academic needs, as they have no “gifted” or advanced curriculum. We filled out an application for a different Catholic school which does have an accelerated program available, but not until the later grades. I feel like we are left with no options if she doesn’t beat the odds and get into one of the coveted CPS selective enrollment schools. I know this dilemma has presented itself to other parents, so I’m just curious what others do with their kids if they don’t get into the CPS schools. She is already in the Northwestern Univ. Saturday Enrich. Prog. We absolutely can not afford any of the private “gifted” schools, and would need major financial assistance as it is if she ends up at a Catholic school. She gets bored in Pre-K and when she gets bored…as with all little ones…she gets very busy doing other things. We will always do our best to supplement her education as well as we can, but I guess I’m just frustrated/annoyed/furious/stressed/dumbfounded that we have to go through such hell to educate our kids! Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks!

  • 234. @233  |  February 8, 2014 at 10:11 pm

    There are private schools that will let your daughter skip to first grade. Look and ask. They will want her to be socially mature.

  • 235. Spot  |  February 8, 2014 at 11:27 pm

    @233. Don’t stress too much – just continue to provide enrichment opportunities. If she doesn’t get in this year, test her again next year. Although there are less spots, tier is irrelevant for non-K spots.And turnover is fairly high in these SE elementary schools – I would love to see the actual numbers, but it is high from my experience. Plus at least one RGC doesn’t start until 1st grade (tiers apply since it is an entry year). Also, I recall you can apply for neighborhood programs as well that have open spots. There are a few neighborhood schools that also have gifted programs – Alcott and Oriole come to mind. I wonder if you can get into the school and then secure a spot in the advanced classroom. Something worth looking into. I don’t have any information on how to do that. Though if you didn’t already apply, I think there is an end of the year lottery for any remaining spots (if any).

  • 236. lolamama  |  February 8, 2014 at 11:32 pm

    Thanks for the suggestion 233 🙂 We’ve already looked into private schools and they are out of reach for us financially. I wish homeschooling was an option but I just don’t have the patience, skill or time. My husband and I both work full time so there just aren’t enough hours in the day! I wonder parents haven’t created an uprising with CPS over the whole ridiculous problem-plagued system. Maybe they already have before I had kids and before I paid much attention to CPS!

  • 237. Test  |  February 8, 2014 at 11:43 pm

    232. Scannpenett –

    Two Things regarding Transportation:
    1) if any child gets into an RGC or Classical school, transportation is provided within the stated acceptable boundaries
    2) if a child’s IEP states that he requires transportation – something CPS doesn’t provide too easily unless there is a demonstrated need (outside of RGC / Classical) – have to make sure it is on the IEP every year, you may be able to include limits on how long he can be on the bus – may be able to orchestrate a bus route with only a couple of stops. A lot will depend on what school he attends. If a long ride would interfere with him getting FAPE, you may be able to justify a route with only a couple of stops.

    So if your child is in 1) above AND has an IEP, may be able to get IEP team to agree to state that bus ride can not be longer than ___. Need to provide explanation though and IEP has to understand the academic related need. A lot will depend on your IEP team.

    Overall, bus ride length varies every year for children who are only in category #1 above. One year you may have 3 schools on a route and the next 5 schools. One year you may be the first pick up and some years the third (the later pick up=shorter bus ride).

    Good luck!

  • 238. cpsobsessed  |  February 9, 2014 at 3:30 am

    @lolamama – the problem about parents creating an uprising is they’re all just as busy as you are. Makes it difficult to change the world. 🙂

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  • 239. lolamama  |  February 9, 2014 at 9:29 am

    Very true cpsobsessed. They really have us over a barrel don’t they?!

  • 240. Scanpennett  |  February 9, 2014 at 8:03 pm

    My child took both tests today and was back there for 35 minutes. He said he got 3 questions wrong. They told me he completed both tests and did great but, I’m sure that’s what they tell everyone. To my surprise he sang like a bird and told me what was on the test. I was shocked there was no “math” – that could work to our advantage. He said he read some word problems but, I’m not sure if that was because our IEP states he can read his own questions (unless it is listening comprehension).

  • 241. TimeForADoOver  |  February 13, 2014 at 5:08 pm

    Here’s a link to an interesting article for parents of future and current kindergarteners. I couldn’t have said it better myself! (Are you listening, CPS?)

  • 242. RL Julia  |  February 13, 2014 at 5:35 pm

    Lolamama – What exactly is wrong with the neighborhood option? Having had two above grade kids myself, I can say that the neighborhood school was FAR more accommodating to us then a test in/private/parochial one PROBABLY would have been – and this was a school that went out of it’s way to tell me how they had NO gifted services, did NOTHING for accelerated kids blah, blah, blah.

    Sometimes – they just don’t recognize what they are doing. I don’t know how it might work in the parochial system but often, I have found, it is just about knowing what to ask for (and asking nicely never hurts). Things like – can she go read with the first graders or can you give her extra math homework that will allow her to work ahead were questions that got good responses in our case. That and supplement at home with stuff and keep playing the lotteries, either they school you have her in will work out OR she’ll eventually get into somewhere you like better.

    Also – having dealt with NW Talent Development – just steel yourself for the absolutely great teachers they have there who may very kindly point out that your child will probably just atrophy and turn into a drug dealer because they are so gifted and will be bored etc…if you don’t send your kid to a regional gifted center stat. Have a couple of years worth of those reports too – and to date neither of my kids are either drug dealers or have atrophied brains (although their taste in television programs is highly questionable)… at least that I know about.

    I know it is hard to believe at this date – but she’ll be fine wherever she goes as long as she has your support.

  • 243. anonymouse teacher  |  February 13, 2014 at 7:22 pm

    @242, I don’t want to say I don’t believe you, but I work for CTD and all our end of course narratives have to go through no less than 4 supervisors before they go out to parents. I find it hard to believe they say anything other than it is recommended your child continues with the program, which is sort of standard unless they are counseling a child out. As well, I’ve been with the center for 5 years and I’ve yet to meet anyone who thinks highly of CPS’s gifted programs. What you are saying doesn’t gel with what I know of CTD, though I suppose different things might happen at different sites.

  • 244. RL Julia  |  February 14, 2014 at 10:16 am

    To be fair, I did get these comments about nine years ago. I am sure things must be different now.

  • 245. lolamama  |  February 14, 2014 at 11:42 pm

    @RL Julia….As I stated earlier, our neighborhood school is not an option. It is just not a good school. Poor test scores, a lot of discipline problems etc. It will not be an option for us unless it makes a complete 360 by September, and stays that way until she’s ready for high school. Also, I find your take on the NU SEP program a little surprising. We have been very happy with my daughter’s teachers. No mention of anything you discussed. She has gotten a lot of encouragement and positive feedback, as have we. As far as Catholic school goes, after having a meeting with her teacher, the principal and the school counselor, who advised us that they would love to have our daughter but they have too many students to devote enough time to meeting her needs, we have decided that we will not apply. It’s not like my daughter is a genius or anything, she is just a bit ahead of the game, and the problems we’ve encountered with trying to keep her occupied in pre-k have been tough to tackle. The fact is, we are stuck with CPS because my husband is a city worker. We are just trying to do the best we can with what we have. Can’t afford private school and would need financial aid for Catholic school. It’s just stressful because we are stuck here and the options are so limited.

  • 246. GG  |  February 22, 2014 at 4:22 pm

    My daughter took test in Nov for Kindergarten classical & RGC. When she came out, she told me that they asked her to write numbers. Is this common for kindergarten entrance??

  • 247. Underachiever question  |  February 25, 2014 at 1:16 pm

    Extremely high IQ but classic scholastic underachiever. Anyone have a child with this issue? If so, any tips? TIA

  • 248. northsider  |  February 27, 2014 at 5:26 pm

    when are the letters sent out this year?

  • 249. Chicago School GPS  |  February 27, 2014 at 6:26 pm

    Letters are sent by March 21, and there is usually a time to visit schools before the confirmation is due about 2 weeks later. Then subsequent rounds start for any magnet, gifted and classical schools that need to fill seats. Oftentimes offers are extended throughout the summer and into early Fall, especially for the older grades as some folks don’t let their current schools know they are moving or making a switch until the summer.

  • 250. reenie  |  February 28, 2014 at 12:32 pm

    @249 Chicago GPS, are you saying if a child gets into an RGC or Classical, parents could still visit before making a final decision? We applied for NTA and missed all the open houses. I have a friend with a kindergartner there and am interested based on what I’ve heard, but I thought I would have to make a decision sight unseen (assuming my child tests in which is still unknown of course). How do the RGCs handle visits in the couple of weeks between letters and decisions? (I made it to the Skinner West open house so I don’t have to sweat that one. Whew.)

  • 251. Chicago School GPS  |  February 28, 2014 at 1:25 pm

    @250- The last several years, RGC & Classical schools have scheduled Open Houses for parents between the first round offer letters and the confirmation due date because of high demand for an opportunity to see the schools. The best bet is to call or check the schools’ website for word on open houses. We will put down all dates we know about on our CSG Calendar, and we will have a “What’s Next?” Decisions After Notifications: Elementary Edition” on 3/31/14 at 7PM. Check out details on

  • 252. reenie  |  February 28, 2014 at 2:08 pm

    @251 I just checked the link and I don’t see the elementary one on the page. I see the high school one. I might register for the elementary one–we’ve got a charter and a Catholic school in the mix, too, and I’m trying to determine how to hold spots as cheaply as possible.

  • 253. Chicago School GPS  |  February 28, 2014 at 6:33 pm

    @252- Thanks for your interest. Here is the link for the 3/31/14 “What’s Next?” Elementary seminar:

  • 254. Testingobssessed  |  March 8, 2014 at 3:11 pm

    @Scanpennette ::: May I know what did your son say he was asked in the test? Did he take two tests one for RGC and another for classical and is it on two different dates?

  • 255. Scanpennett  |  March 8, 2014 at 4:02 pm

    He took the Classical and RGC tests (I wanted to drop the RGC test but, missed the deadline). It is my understanding the only kids testing for kindergarten take both tests back to back; kids testing for other grades take the 2 tests on different dates. My son is not here right now but, he said there were a lot of word problems and he was not given multiple choice on any of the questions. They asked easy shapes (no complex polygons like a hexagon or octagon). One of the questions he was asked: what has wings, can fly and carries people? Although I can’t remember the actual question I remember him telling me about a word problem that involved someone named ? going to a library; checking out x # of books; reading the books; didn’t like the books; he lost the books and had to pay the library x amount for the lost books. The answer was he lost the books. It could have been either a sequential question or “why did he have to pay the library”? I don’t recall. I don’t hold much hope for us getting a spot since we are in tier 4 and didn’t prep. I was surprised by how easy the questions were.

  • 256. Scanpennett  |  March 8, 2014 at 8:28 pm

    also a lot of fill in the blanks. He would read a sentence (again not sure if all kids read it or if it was just because his IEP allows him to read his own questions) with one word missing and he would have to tell them the missing word. Unlike a previous person stated he did not have to write letters or numbers (although he can).

  • 257. sandyoct  |  March 9, 2014 at 3:12 pm

    Thank you so much for the reply. Read it with a lot of interest. In fact read it many times. Please do update with the scores of your son. I think he will ace it as he said he got just 3 questions wrong. Do you think if you would have prepared him he would have done better? May I know if you know any test prep courses as such. My son will be taking the test this dec. he goes to Kumon and is on 2a level in reading. I am not doing anything more than Kumon right now for him as prep to test. Your suggestion will be valuable.

  • 258. Norwood  |  March 20, 2014 at 2:38 pm

    Is it true that the elementary letters will be mailed tomorrow? Last year, they mailed acceptances a day or 2 ahead of the rest of the letters, which I hope they don’t do again because it’s unnecessary, to say the least.

    This is stressing me out. Even if my 5 year old could start at Stanford next year, that doesn’t mean he’s going to do well on this test.

  • 259. jlp  |  March 20, 2014 at 11:40 pm

    Someone in the CPS OAE told me earlier this month that the letters would be mailed tomorrow. However, I did not know about the acceptances being mailed early a couple years back, so didn’t think to ask about that.

  • 260. Sylvia  |  March 23, 2014 at 8:18 am

    To jlp: Can you please explain what means acceptances letters? I received a letter yesterday with only few schools which we did not apply saying that my daughter is on the wait list. Two of the schools we applied to were not listed. Are we to receive other letters? Norwood, what do you mean by letters being sent 2 days ahead of the rest of the letters? Thanks

  • 261. repeats  |  March 24, 2014 at 3:52 pm

    Happily reporting that my daughter got accepted by Belle for 1st grade. Her score was 139.

  • 262. CPS Parent  |  March 24, 2014 at 9:45 pm

    @cpsobsessed: thought I’d report back on a post from November (#172)…our younger daughter’s score of the gifted exam was the same as our first from two year’s ago: 160. I am inclined to think their is a close correlation between IQ scores in the 140s and maxing out the gifted scale. Not sure if we can get a tighter estimation without more IQ scores getting posted, but since CTD requires them, maybe folks will share?

    Is there any data available on correlation between IQ test scores and the CPS gifted test?
    Our 6-year old received a 160 on the CPS gifted test 2 years ago, and an IQ test last year had her score at 146. Our 4-year old took the CPS test last week at IIT, and was given an IQ test (KBIT-2) this weekend to qualify her for the NU CTD program. Her composite IQ on that test was 143. We obviously will have to wait until the CPS results get mailed out, but we are interested in seeing if others have seen any kind of tight correlation between IQ and CPS scores, beyond the obvious. (In other words, does an IQ score above 145 = 160 on CPS, 140-145 = 150, etc.) Any studies or data out there?

  • 263. tiredofCPS  |  March 25, 2014 at 12:12 pm

    My daughter took IQ test and scored 145 but only scored 117 on CPS gifted so now I am really confused. Needless to say she did not get in. I am beyond words right now. I will try again for first grade next year.

  • 264. tiredofCPS  |  March 25, 2014 at 12:20 pm

    My daughter scored 99th percentile in math but only 54th in reading in order to be considered for classical she had to score in 99th for both reading and math. I don’t know she must have become nervous during testing because she does pretty well in reading considering she had newly turned 4 during testing time frame.

  • 265. Colleen Gould  |  March 25, 2014 at 10:18 pm

    First time on this blog–hope I’m posting correctly! My 4.5 yo twins were accepted yesterday into the Coonley RGC for K, however we live in the Bell School District. Any words of advice? Bell’s Gifted Program doesn’t begin until first grade, and I’m not sure lightning will strike twice. 🙂 Opinions are welcome. Thanks!

  • 266. cpsobsessed  |  March 25, 2014 at 10:25 pm

    @colleen, so the plan now is to send them to bell for kinder then ideally place them in rgc?
    If you think they def need rgc I’d take it when you get it. Getting twins in the same place is not easy! If they both scores that well I imagine they’ll both get into bell but posssibly not the same year.

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  • 268. Ann  |  April 9, 2014 at 6:58 pm

    My daughter scored a 144 for gifted and because I live in a tier 4 neighborhood she did not get into Edison or Coonley.

  • 269. so  |  April 9, 2014 at 7:17 pm

    So u can afford a tier 4 area, hence u probably have certain privileges those in tier 1 do not.Better schools,stores,safety,to name a few.Why should you have it all?I have no pity,since most of the faces at rgc are caucasian,well off,and have ability to afford private schools,im sure.Cry me a river.

  • 270. Ann  |  April 9, 2014 at 8:47 pm

    I live in a small home with 3 kids and a special needs child. You know nothing about me but I know your an asshole!

  • 271. Ann  |  April 9, 2014 at 8:58 pm

    BTW we have section 8 by us. We can’t all afford private schools. I didn’t even know I lived in tier 4 until I was told. We have crime by us and my area is diverse. Don’t make assumptions.



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  • 277. J  |  December 22, 2014 at 3:09 pm

    My child was in for maybe 15 minutes (she is 4yrs and 4 months and will be in kindergarten in Sept). Mentioned two books were read and 1 question followed each. The questions were asking which belonged and which did not belong (I’m assuming there were choices and one choice fit and one choice did not fit for the perspective questions). She did NOT mention any math which concerned me since the gifted test measures reading and math abilities. She also said there were NOT any questions regarding shapes, patterns or sorting which would test for math ability. She also mentioned writing words, hello, hola and adios. Although she knows limited Spanish and can read all 3 of those words, she doesn’t know how to spell any of them (from memory). Not sure if she is telling the truth about writing those. If so, I’d think they were checking phonics skills but that doesn’t make sense because Spanish and English phonetics are different.

    I’ve read that the length of time doesn’t matter but I was concerned about the length of time nonetheless. Also concerned that she mentioned knowing most of the answers but not all (thinking that would eliminate her chances).

    I’m also wondering if there are a variety of tests given or if the same test is given to all.

    Just anxiously waiting and thought I’d share my experience in case anyone would like to comment.

  • 278. T. Pick  |  January 21, 2015 at 2:49 pm

    My daughter took the test Friday(KG) and was able to tell me a couple of questions.
    1. What has whiskers and meows?
    2. Which shape doesn’t belong?
    3. Hints or clues about barking and four legs and the answer was dog.
    4. She “claimed” 3+2?
    5. She mentioned patterns she said triangle, circle….
    6. She said where does milk come from
    7. She said something in relation to a dollar and 100. I’m assuming it has something to do with how many pennies in a dollar.
    8. What is the same name for fall.

    Thats all I was able to DRILL out of her…hilarious

  • 279. T. Pick  |  January 21, 2015 at 2:50 pm

    She also mentioned that she had to read some words but she did not know all of them.

  • 280. Tier4Mom  |  January 27, 2015 at 10:37 pm

    @278 … these questions seem very simplistic to me???? What do the rest of parents here think?

  • 281. Tier4Mom  |  January 27, 2015 at 10:46 pm

    To the parents that have children in a gifted or classical school – When your child was tested what wa his/her approximate reading level?
    Thanks again

  • 282. giftedmeasures  |  January 30, 2015 at 4:52 pm

    My daughter took the Kindergarten Test today. She was in there for about 30-35 minutes. She did get to money. I wonder if this is a positive occurrence. Has this happened to anyone? Did your child get to the coins? Did he/she get accepted? Help?! 🙂

  • 283. giftedmeasures  |  January 30, 2015 at 4:53 pm

    How did testing go for everyone? Did your child mention anything about the test?

  • 284. Uj  |  January 31, 2015 at 9:22 am

    Would someone tell me the exact location of this test center? Is it at Herman Hall at IIT? We never got a location confirm? Have test today and cps is closed

  • 285. Uj  |  January 31, 2015 at 9:22 am

    Btw I was asking about the Classical Test?

  • 286. bca29  |  February 3, 2015 at 10:42 pm

    Anyone get a call this week about having your child retake the gifted exam? They claimed that an Audit was done on a few days of testing and they would like my child to come back in and retake the exam??? They couldn’t be doing this for multiple days of testing with all those kids… Already into February… Anyone heard of this, very inconvenient to go back to IIT on a Sunday.

  • 287. g2-8f9bc4c075669b4ea0a3fd4283844b88  |  February 4, 2015 at 7:17 pm

    I got a call from the selective enrollment office today, but I was in a meeting and couldn’t answer. Now I assume it’s about a re-take as well. What a headache!

  • 288. rewing123  |  February 17, 2015 at 3:34 pm

    Can someone explain the selection process for RGC/ Classical? You take the test but then do you apply to only a certain number of those schools? Or are you matched up somehow? Do you list in which order you’d like to attend? Thanks.

  • 289. AE  |  February 18, 2015 at 12:48 pm

    @ 288 You apply to take the RGC/Classical test and, as part of the application process, rank in order up to 6 schools total (both RGC and Classical programs). By letter in March, you will receive an offer from the highest ranked school for which your child is eligible (based on score/tier). You can accept or reject the offer. If you reject the offer, your child is put back in the pool of applicants and could possibly receive a future offer to a higher ranked school.

    Here is my question: Is there a set number of times you can reject an offer, after which your child’s name is removed from the applicant pool?? I seem to recall reading something to that effect on this blog. However, a call to CPS OAE suggest that is not true (and you can reject as many times as you want without any negative impact to potential future offers). Does anyone know for sure? Because of a family change, I have decided two schools are too far from home. Not sure whether I should submit a modification form removing those schools or not. I called OAE and they said it wasn’t necessary (and just created more paperwork for them). However, I have a nagging feeling that I read somewhere that you only get two rejections… Anyone?

  • 290. yogita  |  February 19, 2015 at 9:38 am

    I think you can reject as many you want…..

  • I have no respect for cps and wish they would mess with the wrong person?

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  • 295. Southside Tier 3 Mom  |  March 15, 2015 at 8:28 pm

    Letters are scheduled to be mailed this Friday, March 20th. Anyone still keeping up with this thread? My daughter took the Selective Enrollment for Kindergarten in December. I applied to southside and Northside schools….the nail biting has begun!
    Maybe we can talk as the acceptance letters come in!

  • 296. Southside fingers crossed mom  |  March 16, 2015 at 9:57 am

    Hi Southside Tier 3 Mom, I’m in the same boat as you. My daughter took the test in December for kindergarten too and we applied to schools all over the city. Plan B is magnet schools, Plan C private school…I hope we will have a separate thread to post info about the acceptance letters. I have a feeling this will be a very long week for us!

  • 297. Southside Tier 3 Mom  |  March 16, 2015 at 10:22 am

    I saw on some of the other h.s acceptance threads that some parents were getting acceptance packets directly from the schools BEFORE the CPS letters. Maybe its a stretch but you never know! And realistically, they mail Friday, but we probably won’t receive anything until Monday or Tuesday 😦

  • 298. Southside Tier 3 Mom  |  March 16, 2015 at 10:24 am

    My first choice is selective enrollment; however I applied to a plethora of magnet schools and programs at schools which are Level 1. So we shall see.

  • 299. Southside fingers crossed mom  |  March 16, 2015 at 11:51 am

    I think I’ll plan to start checking my mailbox like a crazy person starting today! Another parent told me that last year some of the schools sent parents an email too. We also need to be prepared to answer all calls from numbers we don’t recognize because they could be coming from schools that we are waitlisted for. Best of luck to you! It will all be over soon…I hope!

  • 300. Newcomer  |  March 16, 2015 at 9:26 pm

    My son is entering Kindergarten in the fall. We didn’t do testing this year, but intend to do so for 1st grade. Is BELL thre only RGC that starts in 1st? Do the other schools take a few new 1st graders if there are spots available? Are there other SEES that only start in 1st, not K?

  • 301. T Pick,  |  March 16, 2015 at 10:30 pm

    I wish that I could hibernate for the week. The anxiety about entry is killing me,,,uggghhhhh. Not to mention that you can get calls up until the first week of the new school year.

  • 302. Southside fingers crossed mom  |  March 17, 2015 at 8:57 am

    Newcomer, Keller also starts at 1st grade. All the other RGCs will take students in at any grade that they have slots available. None of the schools what to leave spots open.

    T Pick, I concur! I called CPSOAE to ask if I could pick the letter up in person on Friday because I’ll be in the area that day…the lady on the phone chuckled and said no ma’am! It was worth a try…

  • 303. 60660  |  March 17, 2015 at 11:12 am

    @300 – Beaubien RGC also starts in 1st grade

  • 304. 60660  |  March 17, 2015 at 11:19 am

    @289 – we have gotten SE multiple offers after rejecting schools because we had decided to stay at a magnet.
    what I do vaguely remember hearing is that you should be sure to respond even when you are rejecting as OAE may decide lack of response (+ or -) = lack of interest.

  • 305. Marilyn  |  March 24, 2015 at 12:30 pm

    My niece took the gifted/classical test for kindergarten 2015/2016 her score is 124 do anyone think she will get offered admission to one of the schools? Is this a good score?

  • 306. Nichole  |  March 28, 2015 at 11:20 am

    My daughter tested in February. We received our letter last week. She was offered a seat at Ogden International school. Should I be happy?

  • 307. fran  |  April 12, 2015 at 2:25 pm

    My kid got a 128 score for entering K … I have no idea what that even means. Do you?

  • 308. LS Mom  |  April 14, 2015 at 10:31 am

    Does anyone know how the second round works? When do schools start calling? And how do tiers fit in? Thanks!

  • 309. Dad of 4yo  |  April 15, 2015 at 9:04 am

    Hawthorne is calling from the wait list.
    My wife got the call at 8:24 this morning.
    We accepted of course.

    Tier 3 #3 @ Hawthorne

    We submitted a confirmation letter at Disney 1 yesterday so that will become available.

    Good luck everyone!

  • 310. Dad of 4yo  |  April 15, 2015 at 9:06 am

    …..thats for Kindergarten at Hawthorne btw

  • 311. Help  |  April 15, 2015 at 9:44 am

    @ dad of 4 year old do you know hoe many more seats were open? Were #13 for hawthorne

  • 312. Dad of 4yo  |  April 15, 2015 at 9:53 am

    Hawthorne had 64 seats for kindergarten. makes sense because they have 2 k classes.

    40 are going to siblings so there are 24 available to new families. Of those 24 at least 3 declined since we got called. I don’t know how many of the 24 accepted.

    That’s all I have. Hope that helps a little @Help.

  • 313. The Kobi team  |  April 25, 2015 at 9:30 am

    Question – we have a 19 month old son, and are strongly considering moving to the West Loop for the price/value vs. our current place in Ogden’s district. If we buy the condo we’re thinking of, the home school would be Skinner (West). We’d almost certainly aim to get him into the classical program there or at Skinner North, as well as applying for the selective enrollment track, but our thinking was that moving into the neighborhood gave us a decent fallback.

    Does anybody know if the test scores reported for Skinner West represent all students, including neighborhood, or just the classical part of their program? I know that the SW neighborhood program’s starting to pick up some popularity, so curious.

  • 314. DRC  |  October 8, 2015 at 11:30 am

    Does anyone know about the test prep courses and how much they cost for elementary testing?

  • 315. cipelino  |  November 6, 2015 at 10:46 am

    Hi parents,
    I am not sure if I am posting the question to the correct section of this blog but please help if your child got accepted to kindergarden at one of the classical/gifted schools and you live in Tier 4 neighborhood. What were your child scores at classical test (Math and English), gifted test, how old is your child and which school offered them a spot? Again just for Tier 4 parents. Thanking you all so much!

  • 316. Yogita  |  November 7, 2015 at 7:48 am

    My sun is in 3rd grade now…he is in Skinner west classical class. He scored 98 in reading and 96 in math. He is oldest child in the class..born in Sept.

  • 317. Alwaxman  |  November 7, 2015 at 7:03 pm

    How easy is it to get into 6th grade at Edison?

  • 318. cpsobsessed  |  November 7, 2015 at 9:16 pm

    I dinr think it’s ever “easy” to get into Edison. If your child scores in the high 90s and kids happen to leave you coukd have a shot. 7th is likely easier some kids leave for academic centers.

  • 319. Nika  |  November 18, 2015 at 1:42 pm

    Daughter tested in November. She was in the testing room 45 minutes. She I be concerned?

  • 320. cpsobsessed  |  November 19, 2015 at 12:00 am

    No need for concern. Concern would be for 10 minutes.

  • 321. thebluestocking  |  November 20, 2015 at 9:43 pm

    Interesting. My daughter couldn’t have been with the tester for even 10 mins. She had one of the highest scores for her testing year and now attends a regional gifted center. I don’t think time can be a predictor. I think you just have to wait and see.

  • 322. MK2015  |  December 1, 2015 at 1:37 pm

    Does anyone know if the test scores are adjusted to account for a child’s age? We are applying to kindergarten for my son for the 2016-17 school year. He was tested in November and just turned 4 this past August, so he is on the young side. Wondering if he is going to be at a disadvantage.

  • 323. Chicago School GPS  |  December 1, 2015 at 1:41 pm

    This is from CPSOAE:

    “4. There is no advantage to waiting later in the season to have your child take the admissions exam. The exam is developmentally age appropriate and the results are based on the exact age of your child. Therefore, if your child is four years and three months of age, he/she will be compared to the group of children of the same age. A child who is older by just a few months is developmentally expected to have acquired more knowledge and skills than a younger child.”

  • 324. kl5  |  December 4, 2015 at 10:06 am

    Can someone say how the test results will come? My son took the K tests in November, so I am expecting results before December 11th. Thank you.

  • 325. cipelino  |  December 4, 2015 at 3:27 pm

    @MK2015: Yes the test scores are adjusted to child’s age. My boy also turned 4 the very end of August. The kids are compared to other kids that are in the same age group to generate the scores.
    @kl5: I called CPS and they said that scores we should expect to receive scores by December 7 (Monday) if child tested between November 1-November 21.

  • 326. MissEm  |  December 7, 2015 at 9:15 pm

    So, my little girl got a 144, we got her scores today. We’re in Tier 2. Good chances for Edison?

  • 327. Veronica  |  December 7, 2015 at 11:34 pm

    My daughter was given the SEES exam for kindergarten. Here are her scores
    RGC 150
    Classical – reading 79
    Classical- math 82
    We are tier 2.
    I am not too sure how to interpret the 150 score. ( Does she have a chance to a RGC? We applied to Edison, Lenart, Coonley, and Pritzker. )
    The letter from CPS was quite clear about the Classical School. ( not this time for us)
    Thank you

  • 328. MissEm  |  December 8, 2015 at 9:41 am

    Veronica, I think the gifted centers just look at the RGC score, so I think your daughter has a really good chance! Especially in Tier 2! I saw on this site somewhere some kids in tier 4 getting into Edison with a 141 (this was from a few years ago, so who knows).

  • 329. LP  |  December 8, 2015 at 10:43 am

    My daughter scored 133 RGC…Tier 3. So I am guessing she has no shot

  • 330. NP  |  December 8, 2015 at 4:08 pm

    I received the letter saying that the cutoff to be considered eligible for regional gifted center is 115. My kid scored a 120. From what I have been seeing on this thread, my kid will not get into a regional gifted center. Is that a correct assumption or is it more nuanced than that?

  • 331. Miss R  |  December 9, 2015 at 3:00 pm

    we got a 99 in reading and 92 in math. what are the chances for a acceptance into a classical school?

  • 332. Miss R  |  December 9, 2015 at 3:00 pm

    for admission into kindergarten with 99 in reading/92 math

  • 333. SouthsideTier3 Mom  |  December 9, 2015 at 3:57 pm

    My daughter scored a 99 in reading and 93 in math. She was accepted into our first choice classical, McDade.

  • 334. zzak  |  December 23, 2015 at 2:33 pm

    133 / 82-86 tier 2 any change at all and when we will know from CPS

  • 335. Southsider  |  January 4, 2016 at 3:40 pm

    330 NP – 120 rgc score for first grade entry is not bad… i know of kids in tier 4 who got in on that. I’m not sure if it ha to do with race and what language you speak at home but I think your child should have gotten a place. Of course it depends on what school u selected.

  • 336. Danijela  |  January 4, 2016 at 3:57 pm

    Current SN parents please help based on your experience.
    Any chance for Skinner North in later rounds?
    English 99.9
    Math 94
    Tier 4

  • 337. nervousmom  |  January 5, 2016 at 10:44 pm

    5 year old took gifted/classical test stay in with tester for 40minutes
    tier 4
    is this a good sign

  • 338. Confused mom  |  February 23, 2016 at 10:47 pm

    I see some people here are posting scores. are those for this year? I thought we don’t get results till March?

  • 339. cpsobsessed  |  February 27, 2016 at 12:41 pm

    There was an early testing process for elementary schools, where you can test early and get your scores early.

    It’s not as beneficial as the AC/High school process since the elem schools don’t post cutoff scores, so while it can be helpful to know if you have a shot, you still have to wait to March to see how the cutoffs by Tier shake out.

  • 340. gc57  |  March 1, 2016 at 3:46 am

    If your child has tested for RGC or Classical Kindergarten, do you recommend using the OLSAT practice books or enrolling them in a prep class?

  • 341. Suzanne  |  March 1, 2016 at 9:27 am

    @340, I used the OLSAT practice test for my daughter last year and she got into Lenart Regional Gifted

  • 342. Confused mom  |  March 1, 2016 at 12:11 pm

    @339 , interesting. i had no idea that was an option. At least if your kid score is low or does not make the cut off, you know earlier

  • 343. Student  |  March 18, 2016 at 6:10 pm

    I am currently a 6th grader at a classical school. I have learned many things there. Even if I don’t make it to the AC I want to go to, my school is still a good choice for me. If anyone does noit make it in, I strongly recommend that you try for a classical school.
    -a student from a classical school

  • 344. Jamill  |  March 24, 2016 at 5:21 pm

    I love to read

  • 345. hopefullmom  |  April 4, 2016 at 11:47 pm

    My daughter got RGC 117. Reading 71 and Math 99. We didn’t get an offer but what are the chances from here on out? Should I give up all hope?

  • 346. Marian  |  April 5, 2016 at 7:35 pm

    My Daughter got RGC score of 156 but the letter says your child’s score has not qualified her she got 97 percentile on math and 99 on reading. What should I do

  • 347. Urszula  |  April 6, 2016 at 5:21 pm

    Hello, I have letter from CPS. RGC -117, but …. Yours child’s total point score :145.5 = what that mean?? We apply only fo Edison – not qualified. Is there any chance??

  • 348. Marian  |  April 7, 2016 at 4:58 pm

    I think you may be in the waiting list because Edison accepts applicants that have a RGC higher than 115 I also applied for edison I live near

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  • 350. oydecisions  |  June 5, 2016 at 10:30 pm

    We are accepting a spot for one child at Coonley Options for 2nd grade, and are hoping that another child can get in for 1st grade. Anyone know what the cutoff has been for Coonley Options incoming 1st grade? Thanks!

  • 351. URSZULA M  |  June 21, 2016 at 12:34 pm

    My son didnt get to Edison, he can choose between that school. Any suggestions?
    Keller RGC (Gr 1)
    Carnegie RGC (Gr K-4)
    Beaubien RGC (Gr 1)
    Beasley RGC (Gr 1-4)
    Nat’l Teachers Academy RGC (Gr 3,4)
    Lenart RGC (Gr 1)
    McDade Classical (Gr K, 4)
    Poe Classical (Gr K,4)

  • 352. ying  |  September 21, 2016 at 1:22 pm

    Does anyone know how many teachers will be testing? I heard that there will be 6 teachers in one room testing 1 kid… That sounds scary.

  • 353. kate  |  October 12, 2016 at 11:29 am

    Our daughter was tested for K. One teacher for one kid.

  • 354. kate  |  October 12, 2016 at 11:30 am

    We tested last year.

  • 355. ying  |  October 12, 2016 at 11:36 am

    Thank you Kate. That makes more sense. and I feel better now… 🙂

  • 356. Marina F  |  November 19, 2016 at 11:39 am

    Can anyone tell me if the test for incoming first graders is written or will there be a teacher asking questions as they do for incoming kindergarteners?

  • 357. LPMom  |  December 6, 2016 at 9:50 am

    Thoughts on a 98 reading score; 85 math score; and 129 RGC score in terms of which schools and overall ability to get a spot at one of the classical or gifted programs for KG. Top on our list would be the Skinner schools just from a location perspective. We are in Lincoln Park – tier 4 address.

  • 358. sigh...  |  December 7, 2016 at 7:17 pm

    RGC 114
    Reading 99.9
    Math 88
    Tier 1

    Any chances for Skinner North?

  • 359. Danijela  |  December 7, 2016 at 7:50 pm

    Yes tou definitely have a chance at SN although at later rounds! Good luck

  • 360. Adam  |  December 10, 2016 at 11:16 pm

    I’m in need of some suggestions. My son did not do well on the kindergarten gifted test, so we are looking at moving to a good neighborhood school. We also did apply to several that have a lottery, but we are not pulled toward any one school. We are looking at Blaine, Agassiz, Coonley, Bell, Hamilton, Burley, Hawthorne, Alcott, Mayer, Franklin, Lincoln, and Nettlehorst. Any experiences or comments on these schools would be appreciated. If this helps, my son is coming from a very nurturing preschool where they focus on fine arts. We will also have a another child entering kindergarten the following year. Thanks for the help!

  • 361. 3xacharm  |  December 19, 2016 at 8:35 pm

    Since you all just did this. Does anyone know if my son has a shot for Lenart kindergarten score of 119. Thxs

  • 362. cpsobsessed  |  December 20, 2016 at 12:53 am

    What tier?

  • 363. 3xacharm  |  December 20, 2016 at 1:50 am

    Teir 4

  • 364. 3xacharm  |  December 20, 2016 at 1:52 am

    Teir 4 !

  • 365. yinggao  |  January 6, 2017 at 7:46 pm

    My girl was tested today and was with the tester for over 50 minutes. Should I take it as a good sign?

  • 366. new2this  |  January 16, 2017 at 7:41 pm

    I’ve seen 3 private school this month. Trying to prepare if my son is not accepted in gifted . Do you think he has a chance for Kinder. RGC 139. 99.9 reading but 73% in math. Tier 4. I was so hopeful prior to these results. Edison and Coonley being our top choices based on location. And now we wait, ANOTHER 2 months! UGH

  • 367. new2this  |  January 16, 2017 at 7:42 pm

    @365 my son was tested about 50 min. Above are his scores. good luck

  • 368. yingz  |  January 17, 2017 at 5:16 pm

    @367 I understand your frustration. I hope your son will be accepted by one of your choices! Does anyone know when the test result will be available? Where can we view it? I heard this year they are going to post the result online? Is it going to be same place we registered the test?

  • 369. new2this  |  January 17, 2017 at 8:10 pm

    @368 I heard they will be online and Im sure it will be viewed somewhere on your kids profile. Maybe where you see the schools you selected? I think results will be sometime first week of April.

  • 370. Michelle L Fellows  |  March 21, 2017 at 11:14 am

    we live in LP and my daughter tested for both classical and gifted – gifted she got a 145 and classical 99.8 in reading and 98 in math. I just found our notification of scores letter in anticipation of the April 3rd notice date (anyone else anxious) and I got myself confused about this statement in the letter “Selections for Kindergarten RGC seats begin as high as 160. . .” does that mean that this is the highest attainable score? Clearly mom is not gifted. . . any thoughts on how the tiers work?

  • 371. yingz  |  March 21, 2017 at 11:48 am

    Hi to Michelle F Fellows, where did you see your daughter’s score? Online???

  • 372. misha  |  March 21, 2017 at 11:52 am

    if you tested before a certain date, you got them mailed to you before the application deadline

  • 373. yingz  |  March 21, 2017 at 11:54 am

    to Michelle L Fellows, has your daughter tested before 11/17 that’s why you have received the score now already?

  • 374. misha  |  March 21, 2017 at 11:56 am


  • 375. yingz  |  March 21, 2017 at 11:56 am

    To Misha, thank you!

  • 376. misha  |  March 21, 2017 at 11:57 am

    you bet. do you know the answer to my question re the RGC and the scores?

  • 377. yingz  |  March 21, 2017 at 12:04 pm

    Sorry I don’t know but you can call cps test office at 773-553-2060 they should be able answer you. I just called them and they picked up the phone right away… don’t forget to update us on here after you call. thanks.

  • 378. misha  |  March 21, 2017 at 12:13 pm

    thanks. I called and they were, as you said, very helpful. If you score below 115, you do not qualify for the RGC. The maximum score is 160 so anyone between 115 and 160 qualifies but then is subject to the lottery and tiers etc. .. hope that helps.

  • 379. AnneR  |  April 5, 2017 at 12:23 am

    I’d love to better understand what the 115 equates to in terms of percentile.. Obviously assuming 160 is 99.99%? Is there a table anywhere you can find that says 110=x percentile, 115=Y 120=z etc. all the way from the bottom to the top number?

  • 380. @why  |  April 8, 2017 at 4:36 pm

    According to the testing agency, 100=50 %ile.

  • 381. Andriy  |  May 28, 2017 at 3:52 pm

    My son attends Lincoln elementary in Lincoln Park. He just got tested into Skinner West Classical program (99th percentile on both). Does it make sense for us to switch from Lincoln to Skinner West? I understand that Skinner West is considered to be good, but is it any better from a good neighborhood school like Lincoln. We are desperate for any information and would appreciate a speedy response as we need to decide within 3 days.

  • 382. hondo  |  July 11, 2017 at 11:11 am

    Can someone recommend a good tutor from/for Skinner North? Our girl’s CPS test score was too low last year to get accepted (85-89%), so we need to get some professional help. Any recommendation will be appreciated.

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  • 384. Confused mom  |  September 14, 2017 at 8:28 pm

    Hi. The process for applying to SE school in K in 2018 change? Before you had to get a PIN, then select a testing date. Is it all through GoCPS now?

  • 385. Chicago School GPS  |  September 16, 2017 at 8:18 am

    Very little info has been released for elementary applications, but it appears that CPSOAE wants to have as the new application portal for all programs, from the 4 magnet preschools to the many Options for Knowledge elementary and all CPS high schools. They started with high school applications and have yet to release instructions for other programs. Applications will open on Oct. 2 so hopefully they release info soon.

  • 386. WorriesMuch  |  October 10, 2017 at 12:20 pm

    For those who have had their kids test into KG for selective enrollment schools like (Skinner West and North), any idea what the “reading” tests are like?
    I see others on here post reading and math scores – so are our now pre-schooler expected to know how to read? If so, to what extent? My newly 5 year old can read majority of the sight words, but maybe that’s just not enough?

  • 387. thirdtimesacharm  |  October 12, 2017 at 11:12 am

    My son took test last year for k. He bombed reading portion of classical .He only had sight word knowledge.Math in the 90’s He did good on RG it’s based on critical thinging.We did some games on testing mom but didn’t do to much.Test is based on age. Good luck

  • 388. zoe g pelehrinis  |  October 12, 2017 at 11:21 am

    Go to the above link its very clear that the Pre-K do not need to know how to read.

    The classical exam is an achievement-based examination and taps into a child’s reading and mathematics abilities. It is important to remember that children progress through various stages at different when they are acquiring reading and mathematical skills. Each child progresses at his or her own pace according to their maturity level.

    In the area of reading, some children’s skill set lies at the readiness level (i.e., alphabet recitation or phonemic awareness) whereas others possess higher level skills such as reading words and comprehending information the printed words convey.

    In the area of mathematics, children also develop at different rates in a variety of areas that include problem solving and reasoning, number concepts, geometry and spatial sense, measurement, and patterns and relationships.

    The exam begins with pre-school mathematical concepts such as counting, one to one correspondence, sorting, measurement and recognizing visual similarities and differences between objects. Higher skills are tapped for students for those who are able to solve simple word problems and perform mathematical calculations. If you child does not possess those type of higher level skills in reading or math the examination is designed to reach a ceiling and exposure to problems that are too difficult for your child are minimal.

    The gifted exam taps into the child’s ability to form abstract concepts and solve problems using novel information. Items focus on the ability to form relations between objects (e.g., a fish lives inside a fish bowl), sequential reasoning where the child tells what is the missing number ( 1.2.3__5), or detecting patterns such as in the following example, were the child is to figure out what comes next:

    Both exams administered to your child are developmentally age/grade appropriate. Some of the items will be very easy for your child and others may be more difficult. However, it is designed to that your child does not experience a stressful testing situation.

  • 389. MP  |  October 13, 2017 at 11:22 am

    Does anyone know when we can schedule exam for the Kindergarten admission in the fall. The new process is confusing and I have not seen anywhere the option to schedule a test.
    Thank you all!

  • 390. WorriesMuch  |  October 13, 2017 at 11:39 am

    I just applied and scheduled test for kg.
    You apply via, follow the guides to complete.
    Once you have applied to all the schools you want, you will see a list of all the schools you applied to. For the ones that require testing, it’s likely at the bottoms of the list with a “RSVP” button.
    Then you will be able to schedule your test.

  • 391. MP  |  October 13, 2017 at 11:43 am

    Thank you that is so helpful! I was nervous to finish application process and list all the schools without first scheduling and taking the test. Thank you!!

  • 392. Female  |  November 6, 2017 at 12:40 pm

    I have a question for SEES test for Kindergarten. I have the option of choosing my daighters test date when she’s still 4.5 years old in Dec. or when she turns 5 in Jan. Does her age when she takes the test make any impact to who she’ll be testing against for her scoring? One mom told me, it’s better she takes it when shes still 4 so she’s rated with other 4-year-olds rather than when she’s 5 and rated against other 5-year-olds. But it’s for the Kindergarten level regardless of age right?

  • 393. southsidestressed  |  November 6, 2017 at 6:00 pm

    @WorriesMuch for the 2 school you listed your child would definitely need to know how to read the small exception would be if you are tier 1 (maybe) . My son remembered quite a lot from his test and they basically gave him a list of words pointed at them and asked him what was the word. Some he knew some he did not. He tested into Poe Classical which was my third ranked school behind the 2 Skinners.

  • 394. WorriesMuch  |  November 6, 2017 at 7:51 pm

    Thank you!
    I heard they take the child’s age into consideration. How old was your son when he took his test?

  • 395. Thirdtimesacharm  |  November 6, 2017 at 8:44 pm

    Kindergarten test goes by kids age . Not sure about for 1st . It might be a standard test with bubbles to fill in.

  • 396. Mira mrcela  |  November 6, 2017 at 9:22 pm

    Regardless of their age they are all.still in the same level academically going into kindergarden. I actually think it benfits them to wait as long as possible to test until they learn as much as possible.

  • 397. cpsobsessed  |  November 7, 2017 at 6:00 pm

    The test score is scaled based on your child’s age. So age IS taken into account.

    I (personally) think waiting is better. At that age, kids sometimes make a big leap in cognitive ability.

    The downside of waiting is that you’re testing in Jan/Feb when the weather can be terrible.

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