High School Application News – Fall 2017

September 4, 2017 at 8:55 am 82 comments

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2018-2019 CPS High School Application News (guest post from Chicago School GPS)

We often tell families we meet with that “The only constant in CPS is to expect ‘change’ “.  This fall, there is a LOT of change in the 2018-2019 CPS high school application process.  The rumors of a “Single Application” for CPS high schools have come to fruition with the unveiling of GoCPS www.go.cps.edu .  GoCPS is essentially a consolidation of what was previously several disparate applications (magnet, military, IB, CTE, etc) into one form, with one offer of acceptance based on the highest ranked school (out of 20) for which your student qualifies. The ONE EXCEPTION is that the 11 Selective Enrollment schools (entrance test required & 900 pt system) will still be a separate application. So think of it as “Single Application Plus SEHS”.  In other words, your student can get up to two CPS high school offers next spring, as opposed to the multiple offers from different types of programs that were given in prior years.

CPS has planned for a “single application” for several years now but this year is finally pulling the trigger.  The reasons?  Mostly to promote equitability, transparency, and they say, “simplicity”.  Before there were students who could have conceivably been offered several IB schools, several magnet schools, several CTE programs, and one SEHS school.  But because a student can only enroll in one school, those other offers sat “unused” or were delayed in being available for others.

Will this change really make it more equitable, as it is designed to do?  Much speculation remains, especially since cities like Denver, New Orleans and New York City are all still working out their systems.  Read more insightful analysis here: http://www.generationallchicago.org/will-a-single-application-for-high-schools-help-expan-equity-in-chicago-public-schools/

The following steps are for 8th grade families (the guinea pigs in all this):

  1. Subscribe to updates at www.go.cps.edu
  2. Follow the prompts at http://go.cps.edu/how-to-apply/high-schools and choose if you are a CPS student or a non-CPS student (non-CPS students still need to register to take the CPS-administered NWEA MAP reading & math tests either in September or October.  It’s first come, first serve so register early! http://cps.edu/AccessAndEnrollment/Pages/NWEAnoncps.aspx )
  3. Online accounts can be Activated now so you can see your student’s eligibility for programs, etc. https://cps.schoolmint.net/signup
    1. CPS students should have received an Activation Code at the end of last school year or will get one when school starts;
    2. Non-CPS students do not need an Activation Code but may need MAP testing (see #2)
  4. Applications open on October 2nd
  5. Visit schools, open houses, research programs, etc
  6. Applications close on December 15th.
  7. Rank up to 20 non-selective schools, and rank up to 6 selective enrollment schools, for a maximum of 2 school offers.
  8. You may still need to attend info sessions, auditions, selective enrollment testing or submit supplemental materials after the application deadline.
  9. You will be matched to the highest non-selective school for which you qualify, and put on the waitlist for any schools you ranked higher, with 1st round notifications coming on March 15, 2018.
  10. If you applied to an SEHS school, you will also get a single offer for one of those schools.
  11. If you don’t want to accept your single offer (and/or your SEHS offer), then you can apply again during a second round which begins in May 2018.
  12. Supposedly by June 2018 you will be settled in a single school offer, with your neighborhood school as your fallback.

Want to learn more?

The 6th Annual Hidden Gems High School Fair will be on Sunday, Sept. 24 from 1-4p at Amundsen High School; http://www.chischoolgps.com/CSG_HS_Fair.html

“What’s on the Test? HS Edition” w/Test Prep Chicago will be on Thursday, Oct. 19 from 7-8:30pm.  Location TBD.  http://www.chischoolgps.com/CSG_HS_Testing.html

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  • 1. Chicago School GPS  |  September 4, 2017 at 9:43 am

    Generation All has been closely following these changes from CPSOAE and here are some helpful FAQs they compiled: http://www.generationallchicago.org/cps-high-school-single-application-faqs/

  • 2. Katie  |  September 4, 2017 at 9:42 pm

    Does anyone know where I can find a schedule for SEHS tours for this fall?

  • 3. Chicago School GPS  |  September 4, 2017 at 10:36 pm

    We have many public and private school tours and open houses listed on our CSG Calendar, including about 5 or 6 SEHS tours so far: http://www.chischoolgps.com/Calendar.php

    There is a small arrow in the upper right of the calendar that you can toggle on or off which types of schools you want to show.

  • 4. JD  |  September 5, 2017 at 11:31 am

    The one thing I haven’t been able to find is information about a placement test. Am I missing something? Seems like it hasn’t been updated yet.

  • 5. Chicago School GPS  |  September 5, 2017 at 11:49 am

    CPS hasn’t released info on the SEHS test dates yet, but I am pretty sure they are still including that as part of the 300 point rubric. Rumor has it that the test has changed a bit this year after they did practice critical thinking sections on the kids last year, but no new info yet on what sections will be on this year’s test. In the past, it was grammar, vocabulary, math word problems and reading comprehension.

  • 6. JD  |  September 5, 2017 at 1:37 pm

    Thanks!

  • 7. JD  |  September 5, 2017 at 1:40 pm

    I’ve also heard that SEHS schools are required to take a percentage of kids with IEPs if they meet the minimum requirements for applying (combined MAP percentile of 48 and maybe GPA). Is this true?

  • 8. Katie  |  September 6, 2017 at 9:23 pm

    Thank you!

  • 9. Chicago School GPS  |  September 7, 2017 at 12:05 pm

    @7- SEHS have been required to have within 4-5% of the CPS average # of IEP students. In other words, if 10% CPS’s student population has IEPs, then an SEHS could have as low as 5% or as high as 15% of its students with IEPs. Granted, you can have 900 pt scoring kids who also have IEPs so whether it is an advantage for overall point totals is debatable. And apparently 504s do not have quotas so there is no consideration for whether a student has a 504 besides testing accommodations.

    From http://cps.edu/AccessAndEnrollment/Pages/SEHS.aspx
    “Eligibility Requirements for Selective Enrollment High Schools
    Applicants to Selective Enrollment High Schools (SEHS) must pre-qualify to take the SEHS admissions exam. Eligibility to take the exam is based on the student’s reading and math scores on the NWEA. The eligibility requirements are below:
    General Education Students and Students with a 504 Plan:
    Minimum percentile of 24 in both reading and math.
    Students with an IEP and Students Receiving Bilingual Education Services:
    Minimum reading and math percentiles that equal 48 or higher.”

  • 10. Chicago School GPS  |  September 7, 2017 at 12:11 pm

    SEHS test dates, also from http://cps.edu/AccessAndEnrollment/Pages/SEHS.aspx under the “More Info” tab:

    The Selective Enrollment High Schools admissions exam will be offered on the following dates for the 2017-2018 school year:
    December 17, 2016
    January 21, 2017
    January 28, 2017
    February 4, 2017
    The test will be offered at five sites: King College Preparatory High School, Lane Tech High School, Lindblom Math and Science Academy, Westinghouse College Preparatory High School, and Young Magnet High School.

    There are typically two test times, 8am or 1pm, and in the past you have been able to choose which time you would like.

  • 11. Chicago School GPS  |  September 7, 2017 at 12:13 pm

    Ooops, sorry- grabbed the wrong tab. Here is the info and I will find the link later:

    SEHS Test Dates

    Saturday, October 14
    Saturday, November 18
    Saturday, December 9
    Saturday, January 27
    Saturday, February 3

    The SEHS will be offered at five sites: King College Preparatory High School, Lane Tech High School, Lindblom Math and Science Academy, Westinghouse College Preparatory High School, and Whitney Young Magnet High School.

  • 12. Chicago School GPS  |  September 7, 2017 at 12:26 pm

    Here is the link for where to find the test dates, about halfway down the FAQs: http://go.cps.edu/about/faq/high-school

  • 13. JD  |  September 8, 2017 at 7:36 am

    Thanks for the info re: IEPs and test dates!

  • 14. VK  |  September 8, 2017 at 9:30 am

    Are the IB programs considered Selective Enrollment (Taft, Lincoln Park, Ogden)? Would you select these on the non selective schools applications or on the selective enrollment schools application – regarding #7 from above:

    7.Rank up to 20 non-selective schools, and rank up to 6 selective enrollment schools, for a maximum of 2 school offers.

  • 15. Chicago School GPS  |  September 8, 2017 at 12:23 pm

    @14- There are only 11 “Selective Enrollment” high schools: Brooks, Hancock, Jones, King, Lane, Lindblom, Northside, Payton, South Shore, Westinghouse & Young. Of these 11, you can apply for up to 6 choices, and can receive a single offer to the highest one for which your student qualifies for.

    All the rest of the schools are considered “non-selective”, including IB schools and magnets which sometimes do consider 7th grade grades and NWEA MAP scores but do NOT require an entrance test.

    Honestly, CPS is not great with nomenclature (don’t get me started on “Magnet Cluster”). They should say “Entrance Exam-based” schools and “Non-Entrance Exam-based” schools. Your child can be offered one school from each of those categories.

  • 16. mom2  |  September 8, 2017 at 2:56 pm

    I thought you had to take a test to get admitted to Lincoln Park’s IB program? Is that not the case anymore? I know it isn’t a selective enrollment school, but I thought it was entrance exam based. Maybe that changed in the last several years?

  • 17. Chicago School GPS  |  September 8, 2017 at 3:54 pm

    Eligibility Requirements for IB Programs:
    General Education and 504 Plan students: Minimum percentile of 24 in both reading and math on NWEA MAP and minimum 2.5 GPA in 7th grade.

    IEP and EL students: Minimum combined percentile of 48 in reading and math on NWEA MAP and minimum 2.5 GPA in 7th grade.

    Attendance at an Information Session is required for all eliglble applicants.

    Selections:
    Students are selected based on an overall applicant score. Points are based on NWEA MAP scores and 7th grade GPA. Students who live within the school’s attendance boundary will be given 50 additional points. The school selects the minimum cutoff score for selections.

    The most annoying part about the new website is not being able to paste the exact place where I found this. Instead, I have to write out that I went to http://go.cps.edu/search and then searched Lincoln Park HS and then clicked on the Admissions tab.

  • 18. Northside Mom  |  September 13, 2017 at 10:06 am

    I spoke with someone from Selective Prep yesterday to see if they’re including critical thinking in their fall Selective Enrollment classes. The woman I spoke with said that CPS confirmed that while there may be logic based questions on the Selective Enrollment exam, they will not count towards the students’ scores (like last year).

    She said that this info is on a CPS website but I haven’t been able to find anything.

    Can anyone confirm whether this is true?

  • 19. Chicago School GPS  |  September 13, 2017 at 10:23 am

    This is from http://go.cps.edu/about/faq/high-school

    “What is on the Selective Enrollment High Schools admissions exam?

    The Selective Enrollment High Schools exam consists of two segments: achievement skills and critical thinking ​skills. Only the results from the achievement skills test in the four subject areas (reading comprehension, vocabulary, grammar, and math word problems) will generate percentiles and point values applicable for the 2018-2019 school year selections.”

  • 20. Northside Mom  |  September 13, 2017 at 10:27 am

    Thank you so much! That’s a huge relief.

  • 21. CD  |  September 13, 2017 at 11:32 am

    How long does it take to get your scores? Do the students see it immediately, or do we wait for mail?

  • 22. Chicago School GPS  |  September 13, 2017 at 5:30 pm

    Excellent question and in the past, an October or November SEHS test date would allow a student’s final 900 point total to be revealed before the application deadline. Not sure what CPSOAE plans to do this year.

  • 23. Momof2fish  |  September 13, 2017 at 10:27 pm

    Anyone interested in the high school study guide? I’m thinking of selling it. I think I have most of the sessions but the big book is intact. Pm me jusand@live.com if interested.

  • 24. cpsobsessed  |  September 22, 2017 at 9:43 pm

    Reminder about the high school Hidden Gems fair this weekend (Sunday) at Amundsen High school

    http://www.chischoolgps.com/CSG_HS_Fair.html

  • 25. CoonleyMom  |  October 3, 2017 at 3:23 pm

    If a NON-CPS student plans on applying for selective enrollment high school, when do they take the MAP-in 7th or 8th grade? I find the CPS website confusing on this specific requirement. Thanks in advance for any clarification!

  • 26. Chicago School GPS  |  October 3, 2017 at 4:08 pm

    Non-CPS students need to take a CPS administered NWEA MAP test in the same fall they are applying to the school, so for 8th graders, it means fall of their 8th grade year. CPS had a September date already and their October request has passed but the exams are on Oct. 21 & 22. Check out http://cps.edu/AccessAndEnrollment/Pages/NWEAnoncps.aspx for more info.

    CPS students take the qualifying MAP exam automatically as part of their spring 7th grade year.

  • 27. cpsobsessed  |  October 4, 2017 at 10:13 pm

    Just a reminder that you can find the HS Open House dates on the indiv school web sites and on Chicago School GPS’s calendar (since they are tapped into these things.)
    The weekend right after the enrollment season starts are:
    Sat Oct 14 Jones
    Sun Oct 15 W Young

    See other dates here:
    http://www.chischoolgps.com/Calendar.php

    I am still not seeing these on the OAE site. Is anyone else?

  • 28. cpsobsessed  |  October 4, 2017 at 10:15 pm

    One other thing I wanted to pass on that I saw on Facebook is that Whitney Young closed down their football team mid season.
    I don’t know why (funding? lack of participation?)

    I feel bad for the kids — one of my son’s classmates was playing there and they didn’t do their homecoming game.
    So if that is important to you, make sure you ask about it when you are touring.

    Jones also doesn’t have a football team.

  • 29. cpsobsessed  |  October 5, 2017 at 12:43 am

    Some info about Lake View and Amundsen:
    Kids in these areas can attend either school:

    DID YOU KNOW? Students who apply to Amundsen High School or Lake View High School (Chicago) through GoCPS will be guaranteed admission, regardless of where they live, if they attend a GROWCommunity elementary school: Audubon, Bell, Blaine, Budlong, Burley, Chappell, COONLEY, Greeley, Hamilton, Hawthorne, Inter-American, Jahn, Jamieson, McPherson, Nettelhorst, Ravenswood, or Waters.

  • 30. CD  |  October 5, 2017 at 9:28 am

    Just received info from the OAE that 8th graders will not receive their Selective Enrollment test scores until March 2017. These kids will be filling out their applications for the SE schools blind. What a bummer.

  • 31. mom2  |  October 5, 2017 at 10:16 am

    @28 – the news reports said it was a combination of injuries and kids not meeting the standards to be allowed to participate. I don’t know if that was accurate or not.
    @30 – same as last year. It doesn’t really matter because you just put down the schools you want in order and you get into the first one you qualify for that has an opening in your tier in your order specified.

  • 32. Brains are Better  |  October 5, 2017 at 1:35 pm

    @28 My son attends WY and they started with a very small team (26 versus the CPS required 22). After a couple of injuries and academic ineligibility they didn’t have 22. I personally wonder if they weren’t able to get the numbers due to concerns about injuries. The 26 team members were all grades – there wasn’t enough for JV versus varsity teams. The principal said it will be back next year but only time with tell.

  • 33. Chicago School GPS  |  October 5, 2017 at 2:15 pm

    Because of the revised GoCPS application dates of Dec. 10 to Dec. 22, I heard that CPS removed their planned Oct. 14 SEHS test date and added one in Dec. I haven’t found a link yet but here is what the new schedule should be:

    Saturday, November 18
    Saturday, December 9
    Saturday, December 16
    Saturday, January 27
    Saturday, February 3

    Families should be able to sign up for their preferred test date and site starting Oct. 10 if their child is eligible for SEHS testing.

  • 34. Chicago School GPS  |  October 5, 2017 at 2:16 pm

    Oops, I meant to say Oct. 10 to Dec. 22.

  • 35. Chicago School GPS  |  October 6, 2017 at 2:05 pm

    This is the super helpful link of FAQs from CPSOAE regarding all types of High School questions.
    http://cps.edu/AccessAndEnrollment/Documents/FAQs_HighSchools_2018-2019.pdf

    It talks about the SEHS test dates, contents of test, other admissions screenings, etc. A worthwhile read!

  • 36. Chicago School GPS  |  October 6, 2017 at 2:09 pm

    This lists the schools that require additional admissions screenings and what is required:
    http://cps.edu/AccessAndEnrollment/Documents/AdmissionsScreening_2018-2019.pdf

    For example, Von Steuben’s Scholars program requires an essay and recommendation letters. IB & Military Academies require an information session, SEHS require testing, etc.

  • 37. CuriousJones  |  October 9, 2017 at 10:37 pm

    Is there anyone familiar with Jones’ CTE admission procedure? If a student lives within their boundary, is admission guaranteed? Or is it by lottery? or based on the grade and NWEA score from 7th grade? Thank you!

  • 38. cpsobsessed  |  October 10, 2017 at 6:38 am

    Welp, the application is open, but still no open house schedule posted! :0

    This weekend is Jones and Whitney Young:
    http://www.chischoolgps.com/Calendar.php

  • 39. Chicago School GPS  |  October 10, 2017 at 6:38 am

    While this link has last year’s application dates, the bottom portion talks about the selection process.
    http://www.jonescollegeprep.org/apps/pages/index.jsp?uREC_ID=191233&type=d&pREC_ID=386772
    “Selection Process
    Selection for these academies is based on a 600-point scale which is comprised of 300 points for 7th grade final grades and 300 points for NWEA MAP scores. Students will be ranked and selected from high to low; students residing within the attendance overlay boundaries of the schools are selected first.”

    There are only about 38 spots for Pre-Eng and about 37 spots for Pre-Law (or vice versa). It’s a small cohort but certainly does get filled with boundary area kids.

  • 40. South Loop Family  |  October 10, 2017 at 2:09 pm

    @37 – basically at lottery (low minimum requirements) This is a pretty good overview from last year.

    http://www.jonescollegeprep.org/apps/pages/index.jsp?uREC_ID=191233&type=d&pREC_ID=386772

    Preference is given for within boundaries but know there are a lot of applications for these coveted spots.

  • 41. Northside Mom  |  October 10, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    Has anyone figured out how to schedule a Selective Enrollment Exam test date without actually applying? We’d like to schedule the preferred date but until the open houses, don’t have a definite order for ranking schools.

    I also didn’t see anything about whether it’s possible to change the rank order after applying.

  • 42. Chicago School GPS  |  October 10, 2017 at 10:31 pm

    This is from the top of page 4: http://cps.edu/AccessAndEnrollment/Documents/FAQs_HighSchools_2018-2019.pdf
    “How can I change my school choices?
    We encourage you to attend Open Houses and conduct any other school-related research BEFORE
    submitting your application, to decrease the need for changing school choices. If you apply online, you
    can make changes to your application online. If you apply via paper application, contact the Office of
    Access and Enrollment at 773-553-2060 or gocps [at] cps.edu to request a paper Application Modification
    Form. Changes must be submitted no later than December 22, 2017.”

  • 43. Chicago School GPS  |  October 12, 2017 at 11:30 am

    CPS Open Houses are now listed on their Event page:
    http://go.cps.edu/dates-and-events

  • 44. Chicago School GPS  |  October 12, 2017 at 2:08 pm

    Here is the “helpful” but a bit unwieldy online application guide. Has high school (pp 6-34), then elementary (pp 35-52) and finally preschool (pp 53-66) instructions. http://cps.edu/sitecollectiondocuments/gocps/GoCPS-HS-Application-Guide-English.pdf

  • 45. MomOfOne  |  October 15, 2017 at 10:59 am

    Since application and test dates recently changed, does anyone know when SEHS test results will be posted? Trying to find this on the Go CPS site and not having much luck.

  • 46. Chicago School GPS  |  October 15, 2017 at 1:32 pm

    SEHS test results will come at the same time as school notifications, in mid-March 2018. I was told this after emailing CPSOAE.

  • 47. Chicago School GPS  |  October 15, 2017 at 4:09 pm

    CPS TIers have been updated for the 2018-2019 application season. Type in your address into http://cps.edu/ScriptLibrary/Map-SchoolLocator/index.html and the blue box will have your tier listed under the yellow pin.

  • 48. CPS parent  |  October 17, 2017 at 1:13 pm

    re: 900 point enrollment calculation
    my child received a 98% in reading and math (7th grade spring score) and according to Go CPS, the NWEA map combo is 196. So does that mean 196 out of 300?

  • 49. Chicago School GPS  |  October 17, 2017 at 1:28 pm

    No, that 196 number is actually just the sum of the two scores. Use this rubric for your score out of 300: http://cps.edu/AccessAndEnrollment/Documents/ScoringRubric_SEHS.pdf

    Needless to say, it is very confusing for CPS to throw in that combo score because it has confused everyone.

  • 50. CPSmom  |  October 21, 2017 at 9:19 pm

    Hi, I have a question about the ranking system. It seems that selective and nonselective schools are ranked separately. My son’s application shows two schools ranked as number 1, one is a nonselective and the other a selective. Does that mean he can get offers from both schools and choose which one to attend?

  • 51. CPSmom  |  October 21, 2017 at 9:23 pm

    I think I just found the answer to my question and am sharing it here in case others have the same question. This is from the CPS OAE website:

    The application process for high schools is a single-offer model. Students will receive an offer from the highest-ranked school/program on their application for which they qualify and for which there are available seats. Selective Enrollment and Non-Selective Enrollment schools are considered in separate selection process. Accordingly, a student can, at most, receive one Selective Enrollment offer (as in previous years) and one Non-Selective Enrollment offer.

  • 52. cpsobsessed  |  October 22, 2017 at 12:29 pm

    That’s correct. This year the ranking system is changed so you rank the schools all together and will get one offer.

  • 53. B. Anderson  |  October 22, 2017 at 6:59 pm

    A fellow parent mentioned to me that CPS was questioning NWEA MAP testing procedures at some elementary schools. Apparently, there was an unusually high number of perfect scores for 7th graders who took the test in the spring. I called a friend who works for CPS and she had not heard about an investigation but, she said she would not be surprised because the MAP test is not proctored or monitored like tests of this importance should be; teachers give it and some schools give incentives to teachers whose students scores increase, the test can be stopped and started at a later time, she said there have been instances when the teacher has the students take the test two at a time with just the teacher in the room, etc. Has anyone else heard anything about this?!

  • 54. cpsobsessed  |  October 22, 2017 at 9:21 pm

    I haven’t hear about this. But I thought the test doesn’t have a perfect score because it’s a progressive test. If you do well it keeps feeding you harder questions.

  • 55. Chicago School GPS  |  October 23, 2017 at 5:55 am

    While the questions do adapt to a student’s abilities, the scoring will max out based on the standardized norm for students of that age, so students can get a 99% in reading and a 99% in math if they are at that level for their grade. This is from the GoCPS FAQs about NWEA MAP:

    “25. If CPS students take the test in the spring, and private/parochial school students take the test in the fall, how can you compare those scores? Is my child at a disadvantage?

    The scores of students who test in the spring will be compared against spring norms to derive a percentile. In other words, spring testers will have percentiles that are representative only of
    how students rank against other spring NWEA MAP testers nationally. Students who test in the fall will only be compared to other students who tested on the NWEA MAP in the fall. This allows for fair comparison of scores. All data will be normed using NWEA’s 2015 RIT Scale Norms. For more on NWEA’s national norming sample that was used to derive the percentile scores, please
    visit https://www.nwea.org/resources/2015-normative-data/ and refer to the links for the 2015 norms.”

    FYI, the NWEA MAP wasn’t designed to be a “high-stakes” test. It was actually designed to be a tool for teachers to evaluate each student at different times of the year. CPS used it, however, as a stopgap between the discontinuation of ISATs and in anticipation of switching over to PARCC. With the demise of PARCC, the NWEA MAP test is the default nationally normed test CPS is using. I do remember that the ISATs used to have a large number of students scoring 99/99 and when NWEA initially was used for eligibility, that was much reduced. Now that students are taking the NWEA seriously (and many are test-prepping for it), I am not surprised the scores are creeping up.

  • 56. IB versus SEHS advice please?  |  October 24, 2017 at 7:58 pm

    Would any parent please comment from their children’s experience on the difference between IB program and SESH? Trying to educate myself and my child. We are taking tours this fall. I hear the actual IB diploma is very hard to get, only a handful students end up earning it. Why would one choose IB over SEHS or vice versa?

  • 57. Chicago School GPS  |  October 24, 2017 at 8:27 pm

    Come on out tomorrow night, to get this specific question answered! There is a High School Parent Panel sponsored by NPN at St. Stansislaus Kostka, 1255 N. Noble @ 6pm. https://www.npnparents.org/event_times/2970
    Schools represented:
    Lincoln Park HS (IB, Double Honors, Performing Arts & Neighborhood)
    – Disney II (Magnet)
    – Amundsen HS (IB, CTE & Neighborhood)
    – Northside College Prep (Selective Enrollment)
    – Lane Tech (Selective Enrollment HS & Academic Center)
    – GCE Lab School (private, independent)
    – Lycee Francais (private, independent, IB)
    -De La Salle Institute (parochial)

  • 58. CPSMom  |  October 25, 2017 at 10:31 am

    @52 cpsobsessed My understanding is that at most a student can get two offers, one from a selective enrollment school and one from a non-selective enrollment school. Is that what you understand as well?

  • 59. cpsobsessed  |  October 25, 2017 at 2:24 pm

    Non selective meaning neighborhood?

  • 60. CPSMom  |  October 25, 2017 at 3:04 pm

    @59 Non-selective meaning IB programs or music programs like Chiarts.

  • 61. AL  |  October 26, 2017 at 1:18 pm

    @56 Your question regarding the difference between IB and SE schools: Our son ended up attending both. In spring of 8th grade, he did not get into any of his SE choices but got into Lincoln Park IB. Our son came from a private school setting and the IB program at Lincoln Park was VERY challenging. He would literally be doing homework from the time he got home until 10 or 11 at night and he was highly stressed most of the time. He was doing very well grade-wise and the teachers were excellent, they knew him very well, and they care about their students in general at LP. He ended up getting the opportunity to switch to Jones during the year they expanded, so he transferred at the beginning of his Junior year and continued at Jones choosing many AP classes. The block schedule at Jones was very good for him and eased much of his stress. The teachers were good with some being better than others. HOWEVER, now looking back as a college student, he says he probably should have stayed in the IB program at Lincoln Park because he felt that the quality of the teachers and program was much better. In the two years he was there he wrote many essays and his writing skills are now top notch. He wrote almost a paper a week at Lincoln Park whereas he wrote maybe three total at Jones in two years. The IB programs push kids hard and, if you have the right student, you should choose this program. The SE schools are all great as well but are just a different atmosphere. It is important that you take stock in your child’s grit, personality, abilities, etc. because it can make a big difference. The IB teachers expect a lot from their students but they are also more than willing to really work with your child to get them through the program. My son knows many kids that dropped down to the double honors program at Lincoln Park and they all got into the same colleges as the IB kids for the most part. If your kid aspires to go to an Ivy League school, the best SE schools to choose are Northside and Payton and the best IB school is Lincoln Park IB. Your chances are better having gone to those schools. If your child aspires more to a top 10 college, then any of the SE schools would be acceptable along with Senn IB and Lincoln Park double honors. That’s my two cents at least…….

  • 62. IB versus SEHS advice please?  |  October 27, 2017 at 8:19 am

    thank you for sharing your son’s experience, AL. It is very helpful.
    Any parents here, that have/had a child at Taft IB in particular and another one at any of the Northside SEHS, that can also compare?

  • 63. JoR  |  November 1, 2017 at 7:56 am

    For SEHS, does CPS provide the breakdown of acceptances between number of public and private school students. It would be interesting to see now that there have been a couple of years where all kids take the same entrance tests. Or does CPS keep that info under lock and key?

  • 64. cpsobsessed  |  November 2, 2017 at 11:38 am

    @JoR, there was a news story on this several years ago. I’ll try to find the writeup I did. It’s not standard info, but I think can be gotten via an FOIA request. I will say, the % of private school students who got offers to SEHS was shockingly high. I mean it make sense, given many of these kids come from high income homes and had good elem educations. But I guess I was surprised to see SO many private kids getting top spots. I thought more of them would stay in private HS or something.

  • 65. cpsobsessed  |  November 2, 2017 at 11:46 am

    Here it is.
    At the top SEHS, 20-30% of those admitted come from private schools.

    https://cpsobsessed.com/2012/03/09/data-on-tiers-and-private-school-from-wbez/

  • 66. In SN  |  November 2, 2017 at 12:22 pm

    A few years back, the nun in charge of the Catholic schools made quite a big fuss about her students getting chances at taking the NWEA Map. Seems the top SEHSs have been a substantial lure for tuition-paying families.

  • 67. Cole  |  November 2, 2017 at 1:00 pm

    For the IB info sessions, does the student have to attend or can the parent go instead?

  • 68. cpsobsessed  |  November 3, 2017 at 1:24 pm

    If I recall correctly, the one I went to did some loose checking that the student was there. Seems like it wouldn’t be difficult to get around it. But why take the chance? Your kid can sit there staring into space for an hour if they’re not into it. It’s just part of the process of applying to schools.
    You only need to go to 1, not for each IB you apply to. I mean if your kid doesn’t want to attend a session (mine did not) they probably are not the best fit for IB.

  • 69. Concerned  |  November 5, 2017 at 5:33 pm

    We went to the Northside College Prep’s Open House today, and it appeared that the school is using IMP for its math curriculum. Frankly, I have heard negative things about it, and the teacher’s explanation didn’t ease my concerns. If anyone in here has experience with IMP (particularly at Northside), please share! Also, I heard from our tour guide that he took Precalculus during his Freshman year, and it wasnt IMP structured. Are students allowed to choose not to be taught in IMP curriculum at certain level? Thanks!

  • 70. Lpdad  |  November 11, 2017 at 12:55 pm

    My daughter took a look thru an imp math text at Jones’ open house a few weeks back and thought it was a complete joke..lacking in any sort of rigor

  • 71. cpsobsessed  |  November 12, 2017 at 1:00 pm

    @Lpdad – huh. Weird. My son is at Jones and they don’t have a math text book.

    It was actually the math class that attracted my son to the school. Very interactive, engaging. This is the first time he’s enjoyed math in years.

  • 72. joneskid  |  November 13, 2017 at 6:04 pm

    @cpsobsessed is your child in 2B?

  • 73. CPSmom  |  November 13, 2017 at 10:07 pm

    @69 Hi, my son is a student at Northside. He said that the Precalculus and Calculus classes there do not use IMP.

  • 74. Concerned  |  November 14, 2017 at 1:51 pm

    LPDad: I heard that IMP is a group based experience, so it was not meant for advanced math students.

    Cps – I was at Northside’s Open house, and I saw a couple of “books” displayed. They didnt look like the regular textbooks, but certainly they were math books since the teacher extracted the problems from there.

    Cpsmom – Thanks for the confirmation; I was disheartened when I saw on their website listed that Precalculus as the last Integrated Math course ( Integrated 4). I just wish that Northside and Jones have more options for their students. I prefer Young and Payton’s ‘traditional’ math programs, and these two schools are excellent when it comes to math.

  • 75. ChiTown  |  November 14, 2017 at 2:57 pm

    While IMP is getting a lot of flack, the kids who do well in Math go on to take AP statistics, AP BC calculus, AP multivariate Calc at Northside. They do well on ACT/SAT and go to top Universities, many majoring in Engineering or even Math! It is funny to hear people complain about IMP but probably hated math in the traditional way it was taught. One should embrace teaching STEM classes differently so they engage students more.

  • 76. Concerned  |  November 14, 2017 at 8:04 pm

    ChiTown- “ It is funny to hear people complain about IMP but probably hated math in the traditional way it was taught” – Actually it is funnier to read this blanket statement! You are free to make any assumption that you feel compelled to, although it says nothing about your statement’s veracity! IMP has its advantages and disadvantages; however, what works for some doesn’t mean that it works for all. I know what works for my child, so I wish that schools like Northside and Jones would have more options for their students. Also, since you have mentioned this topic, Northside’s ACT scores for math and science have been averaging 28-29, unlike their average English and Reading ACT scores (30-31). I wonder why?

  • 77. ChiTown  |  November 15, 2017 at 10:26 am

    Northside has a harder time filling Tier 1-2 spots as it is not close to main train lines (walk from Kimball/brownline or catch a bus). Payton, Whitney and now Jones are more centrally located and easier for commuting. I think Jones will grow as a top tier option as it expanded and is easier to get to than Whitney.
    IMP is just through pre-calc. So, most kids who come in with algebra can get to BC calc by graduation. There is an option to take trig over the summer in an intensive class (3-4 hrs+ hrs of homework) so they can get in multivariate calc after BC calc. My son declined it as he had national team practices over the summer. My other son came in with Geometry completed, finished thru multivariate, but still took it in college as it is much more thorough and deep than they can do in AP.
    Many top tier colleges are not taking AP credit but want AP to show how difficult their curricula was in HS. Both are in college as Eng (double major) or Comp Sci. One got credit for APs; the other did not. He said they blew through BC calc in the first 2 weeks of class as review!
    Northside has many options to offer and is a unique environment with many ways to be challenged, not just through academics. You’ll find students at the school all hours collaborating, in clubs, sports, studying, etc.
    Lane would have more AP options due to size as Northside/Payton will sometimes only have one AP class option for a subject. So, conflicts with other APs can be a challenge.

  • 78. 2nd round of this  |  November 16, 2017 at 7:39 pm

    Concerned…..The only constant in CPS is change. My two cents (parent to a WY sophomore and 7th grader looking at hs now…so I’ve been “Monitoring” hs’s for quite a few years now) is to choose the school based on overall feel, your student’s comfort and the school’s location. WY is not difficult to access – it is immediately adjacent to the blue line, and close to Green/Pink/ and other bus lines – so accessible from anywhere in the city. Block vs traditional schedule at the different schools has tradeoffs – I can see the benefits of block for some classes; for others daily touch (music, foreign language) seems beneficial. I’d be curious for any parent input if they’ve had students in both block and traditional. Good luck to you in your search!

  • 79. Concerned  |  November 17, 2017 at 8:21 pm

    ChiTown – Thank you for sharing your family’s experience. While I have misgiving about IMP curriculum at Northside, my son really likes the school’s friendly environment. He said that he feels “belong” there, so hopefully he will get in.

    2ndround – Thank you for your insights. After visiting so many schools, I feel that all five selective enrollment schools (Lane, Young, Jones, Northside, and Payton) are excellent. Each has a lot to offer, but in the end, we choose what is closest for us and how our son feels toward the school.

  • 80. CPSmom  |  November 21, 2017 at 5:37 pm

    I was confused about the new single-offer system. I called the OAE and learned that students can actually receive at most 2 offers: 1 offer from a Non-Selective Enrollment School (such as a school with an IB program or a music program) and 1 offer from a Selective Enrollment High School. It’s confusing for two reasons: 1. It’s called a single-offer system, but students may receive two offers. 2. CPS uses the category Non-Selective Enrollment School to describe schools that in fact select students from a group of applicants (such as Lincoln Park IB or ChiArts).

  • 81. Jennifer  |  November 30, 2017 at 11:19 am

    Is there a study guide for the SE test like there is for the Catholic HS entrance exam

  • 82. cpsobsessed  |  November 30, 2017 at 5:21 pm

    No there isn’t a study guide because the test isn’t a standard test. Even the test prep services are just speculating.

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