2016 NEIGHBORHOOD and MAGNET Elementary School Thread

March 26, 2016 at 9:55 pm 1,817 comments


Post your news, questions, opinions here about Neighborhood and Magnet elementary schools.

If you post about your letter/status, please include:


Waiting list #

Tier (if applicable)

And remember, this process goes on for a lonnnng time as schools move down the wait list.  Patience is a virtue, as hard as it may be.

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  • 1. K10  |  March 27, 2016 at 12:15 am

    I heard today that we would receive letters on Monday, I thought they were only sending on Monday. Does anyone know?

  • 2. Chicago School GPS  |  March 27, 2016 at 7:34 am

    According to the scrolling banner on their website, “Notification letters for applicants to preK through eighth grade will be mailed to parents’ homes via U.S. mail ON March 28th.” Emphasis is theirs for the all caps “ON”.

  • 3. CPS First Timer  |  March 27, 2016 at 8:27 am

    If both Magnet schools and SEES schools were applied for, will two separate letters arrive?

    And if waitlisted in the first round for a Magnet, how do they notify of a space offered in the future? Email, phone, letter?

  • 4. Chandra  |  March 27, 2016 at 8:44 am


  • 5. Non Entry Level  |  March 27, 2016 at 10:23 am

    @3 CPS First Timer:

    If you applied for both SEES and magnet schools, you will get two separate letters, one for SEES (gifted regional centers and classical are lumped together in one), and one for magnet schools.

    When we were notified of our one magnet school acceptance, it was through a phone call, and we had 24 hours (or was it 48?) to accept or decline.

  • 6. 2ndtimesAcharm  |  March 27, 2016 at 12:13 pm


  • 7. Mom60641  |  March 28, 2016 at 9:18 am


  • 8. kp  |  March 28, 2016 at 9:55 am


  • 9. cpsteacherandmom  |  March 28, 2016 at 10:03 am

    Good luck everyone! just wanted to let any first-time lottery parents know that if you don’t see what you were hoping for in your letters, don’t worry. Last year for Kinder, we got calls very late into the summer, and we got a call from our #1 choice (OA Thorp) on September 2! We had NO offers from any schools initially, and ended up with about five or six in the end. it’s stressful but the lists DO move.

  • 10. ObsessedNewbie  |  March 28, 2016 at 1:15 pm

    For all of you NTA parents or anyone with any insight on this what are my chances of getting into NTA school under the neighborhood option?

  • 11. readysetslow  |  March 28, 2016 at 3:39 pm


  • 12. Marketing Mom  |  March 28, 2016 at 3:43 pm


  • 13. JSavage  |  March 28, 2016 at 3:45 pm

    Due to our budget situation requiring a furlough day last week, and the preparation required to ensure students are safe, fed and engaged during the strike this Friday, the selective enrollment letters for elementary schools are delayed. All CPS elementary school selective enrollment, magnet, magnet cluster and open enrollment letters will be sent out on Wednesday, March 30, 2016.

  • 14. Kat  |  March 28, 2016 at 3:52 pm

    Announcement Regarding Elementary Notification Letters
    Please note:

    Due to CPS’s budget situation requiring a furlough day last week, and the preparation required to ensure students are safe, fed and engaged during the one-day strike on April 1st, the elementary notification letters are delayed. All CPS elementary school selective enrollment, magnet, magnet cluster and open enrollment letters will be sent out from the main post office on Wednesday, March 30, 2016.

  • 15. Val's Mom  |  March 28, 2016 at 4:03 pm

    following, obsessing, per usual.

  • 16. Near South Sider  |  March 28, 2016 at 4:19 pm


    I think your chances are good. We got into K last year at NTA with a low wait list number (less than 10), but I have a feeling they called quite a few off the list. When I went to register my kid at the office the next day, I asked how many families they had called. She said she was well into the 20s and was still calling (and this was only day 2 of calling off the list).

    One thing is that you have to wait until the summer before they call. I think we were called mid-June. The school doesn’t want to overcrowd the classes, so they wait until the majority of the neighborhood kids enroll first before calling off the list. When my kid started, there were about 23 kids in the class. Now there are 30 due to neighborhood kids enrolling late.

    Good luck! If you get a call from NTA, I suggest you go for it. We love the school!

  • 17. ObsessedNewbie  |  March 28, 2016 at 4:24 pm

    Thank you so much @Near South Sider. This is really good to hear. This process is so stressful and I’m really hoping to get into NTA.

  • 18. Near South Sider  |  March 28, 2016 at 4:30 pm


    You’re welcome! I’m excited and a little apprehensive now that NTA is zooming onto everyone’s radar. I need the school to remain a hidden gem for a few more years because I’ve got another kid I need to get into the school!

  • 19. FrustratedAndWaiting  |  March 28, 2016 at 6:35 pm

    Ugh! In the last two hours, the CPSOAE website scroll went from saying that the letters *had been mailed out today*, Monday, March 28, to saying that they *will not be mailed out until Wednesday*, March 30. It is never ending…

  • 20. Cin  |  March 28, 2016 at 6:55 pm

    Following,wishing good luck to all!

  • 21. Call Me Miss Madame  |  March 28, 2016 at 6:59 pm

    Best of luck all. This is a tough process. I wish you to get the school you wanted, but if you didn’t, I want to share my story as hope that in the end sometimes you get not what you originally want but what to need.

  • 22. southloopmom  |  March 28, 2016 at 8:26 pm


  • 23. KCabral  |  March 29, 2016 at 9:15 am

    Following, because like Val’s Mom/15, obsessed 🙂

  • 24. kp  |  March 29, 2016 at 9:19 am

    so does it seem like a bit of a jab at teachers to specify that letters are late because of the day of action? usually they are late just because they are late.

    seems like a good way to agitate already stressed people

  • 25. KCabral  |  March 29, 2016 at 9:23 am

    @kp/24 — I definitely think so. There’s been a lot of passive aggressive comments coming from CPS.

  • 26. BuenaDad  |  March 29, 2016 at 9:40 am


  • 27. Nwmom  |  March 29, 2016 at 10:02 am


  • 28. northparkmom  |  March 29, 2016 at 10:46 am

    What are the chances of my DD to get into K at her older sister’s magnet school? I heard for non-entry grades at this school, the sibling waitlist doesnt even move. Our oldest last year applied for 4th grade and ended up on 6th place on sibling wait list but we never received a call. Anyway, we are anxiously waiting 🙂

  • 29. ppMom  |  March 29, 2016 at 11:12 am

    Alcott – good chance for admission? How bad really is diversity?

  • 30. teachermom  |  March 29, 2016 at 11:38 am

    We were supposed to be receiving the letters on Monday, but it’s been pushed back because of the CPS furlough day.

  • 31. teachermom  |  March 29, 2016 at 11:44 am

    Ugh. Just read the other comments and the blurb on the OAE web site. Ugly tactic. Let’s just try to make all the parents whose kids didn’t get into the school they wanted blame the teachers for it.

  • 32. follower  |  March 29, 2016 at 12:21 pm


  • 33. JenK  |  March 29, 2016 at 12:26 pm

    @28 In Magnet schools, siblings are given preference for available seats. In Kindergarten, assuming there are more seats than siblings, your child should get a seat. At the magnet school my daughter attends, approximately half of the K seats go to siblings. There is a sibling waiting list 1st-6th that rarely moves because nobody leaves to open up a spot. If your K child does not get an offer as a sibling, please call the Admissions coordinator to make sure there wasn’t an error.

  • 34. Mochamom  |  March 29, 2016 at 1:44 pm


  • 35. MomofE  |  March 29, 2016 at 2:27 pm


  • 36. BigCityMom  |  March 29, 2016 at 3:27 pm


  • 37. northparkmom  |  March 29, 2016 at 3:44 pm

    @33 Thanks JenK.

  • 38. ET81  |  March 29, 2016 at 6:05 pm


  • 39. KIndergarten Newbie  |  March 29, 2016 at 10:59 pm


  • 40. Julia  |  March 30, 2016 at 10:02 am


  • 41. Dulce  |  March 30, 2016 at 11:47 am


  • 42. Kate  |  March 30, 2016 at 1:19 pm


  • 43. Follower  |  March 30, 2016 at 3:47 pm

  • 44. katbuitron  |  March 30, 2016 at 3:58 pm

    Just called OAE, letters were sent today after 1pm. Good luck everyone!!

  • 45. cpsobsessed  |  March 30, 2016 at 4:06 pm

    Good news, thanks for calling and posting! May the Chicago mail service still be as quick as they were in the past…

  • 46. BigCityMom  |  March 30, 2016 at 4:27 pm

    FYI: I saw somewhere that if you don’t receive your letter by Friday, you should call OAE.

  • 47. Jen K  |  March 30, 2016 at 4:52 pm

    @46 I just saw on OAE that date was revised to April 5th.

  • 48. EverPatient  |  March 30, 2016 at 5:16 pm

    Yes – it still says they were mailed today, but if you don’t hear by the 5th, call the office.

    Fingers crossed for a one-day-delivery (as I am of course going out of town on Friday)!

  • 49. CPS First Timer  |  March 30, 2016 at 6:57 pm


  • 50. Sandra  |  March 30, 2016 at 7:34 pm


  • 51. Solo  |  March 31, 2016 at 6:31 am


  • 52. 2ndgrade  |  March 31, 2016 at 8:55 am


  • 53. KinderKid  |  March 31, 2016 at 9:21 am


  • 54. rewing123  |  March 31, 2016 at 9:37 am

    from my understanding, if my kid gets into a school via lottery, then eventually his younger sibling would get sibling preference. however, if my kid gets into a SEES, would his sibling get sibling preference into the regular school? meaning, i know the younger one doesn’t get preference into the SEES section of the school, but would he get preference into the regular track portion of the school (thinking Coonley specifially, for example).

  • 55. LSmom  |  March 31, 2016 at 9:41 am

    @54, siblings get preference in the neighborhood program if space is available. I don’t think Coonley usually has space for siblings, and Bell doesn’t even have a lottery.

  • 56. EverPatient  |  March 31, 2016 at 9:44 am

    I’ve heard recently that Pritzker has traditionally had some spots for siblings in the neighborhood program, but that can change every year. As the previous poster stated, Coonley and Bell have not in recent years (other than an occasional, random, someone-moves-out-in-3rd-grade sibling placement – but not in K).

  • 57. K10  |  March 31, 2016 at 11:26 am

    Any chance we’ll get letters today?? 😀

  • 58. AK  |  March 31, 2016 at 11:28 am

    On other thread posters are reporting NO letters in 60657 and 60607…haven’t heard anyone getting a letter yet today.

  • 59. northpark  |  March 31, 2016 at 11:39 am

    Anyone in 60659 get mail yet?

  • 60. Boo  |  March 31, 2016 at 11:50 am

    No letters. 60640

  • 61. CS  |  March 31, 2016 at 11:52 am

    no letter in 60641

  • 62. llmm  |  March 31, 2016 at 12:08 pm


  • 63. readysetslow  |  March 31, 2016 at 12:09 pm

    No letter today – 60625

  • 64. llmm  |  March 31, 2016 at 12:16 pm

    following thread

  • 65. Momof3  |  March 31, 2016 at 12:52 pm

    No letter 60618

  • 66. Jen  |  March 31, 2016 at 1:32 pm

    No letter 60656

  • 67. kp  |  March 31, 2016 at 1:35 pm

    no letter 60622

  • 68. Diane  |  March 31, 2016 at 1:41 pm


  • 69. K10  |  March 31, 2016 at 2:30 pm

    No letter in 60630

  • 70. susan  |  March 31, 2016 at 2:32 pm


  • 71. Nwmom  |  March 31, 2016 at 2:55 pm

    No letter 60634

  • 72. Jksaf  |  March 31, 2016 at 3:14 pm


  • 73. cpsobsessed  |  March 31, 2016 at 3:22 pm

    @54 – At coonley, the siblings get priority, but only after it’s determined that there is room for the neighborhood kids. So sometimes this happens in early Sept once they see true enrollment.

    The school has an addition, which has helped it expand — but new homes are continuously going up in the neighborhood. So the # of kindergarteners continue to grow beyond what I ever thought was possible for a small zone.

  • 74. ALU  |  March 31, 2016 at 3:38 pm

    No letter 60647

  • 75. wp  |  March 31, 2016 at 3:59 pm


  • 76. Vanessa Guridy  |  March 31, 2016 at 5:03 pm

    No letter in 60647

  • 77. Cin  |  March 31, 2016 at 5:10 pm

    No letter in 60622.

  • 78. kay  |  March 31, 2016 at 6:31 pm

    No letter 60614

  • 79. Diane  |  March 31, 2016 at 6:46 pm

    While we all wait this madness out, I have a few questions…IF you get an offer, is there a time limit to accept it? When you accept a position, are you removed from all the other waitlists? Does anyone know about Disney vs. Disney 2 (differences, etc.) TIA! And good luck to all.

  • 80. Jen K  |  March 31, 2016 at 7:11 pm

    @79 yes, there will be an acceptance deadline. If you accept a SEES spot, you will be removed from the list for your other SEES choices. However neighborhood and magnet schools have their own lists so you will remain on those individuals lists. Disney on Marine Dr is completely different from Disney II, except they are both art and technology schools. Once you get your letter, I’m sure there are parents here who can give insight to specific schools to which you’ve been accepted.

  • 81. Shouldimovetosuburbs?  |  March 31, 2016 at 8:48 pm

    Nothing in 54

  • 82. K10  |  March 31, 2016 at 10:10 pm

    Do you think tomorrow they will update the site to say “April Fools! No letters today!”

  • 83. realchicagomama  |  March 31, 2016 at 11:59 pm

    @82 / K10: That assumes CPS is focused on this and likes messing with the incoming classes. I assure you, they have so many balls in their air right now, and not enough people to juggle them. Acceptance letters for next year are at the bottom of the list of things they care about or are focusing on right now.

  • 84. northpark  |  April 1, 2016 at 9:47 am

    Day 2; 60659 waiting for the lucky letter!

  • 85. PA mommy  |  April 1, 2016 at 9:51 am

    It’s like willy wonka movie waiting to see who gets the golden ticket- which lucky kids get to go to the top Cps schools.. Lol

  • 86. Erica Tesla (@etesla)  |  April 1, 2016 at 10:38 am

    Got our letters today – general waitlist #5 for Boone, proximity waitlist #175 for Stone. I had previously thought Stone was way more likely because of how the system works. Then again, I dunno if Boone will even get to the general waitlist, and maybe the Stone proximity list will move quickly? Any Boone or Stone parents have knowledge to drop on me?

  • 87. CP  |  April 1, 2016 at 10:52 am

    Any parents from 60615 receive the letter?

  • 88. MM  |  April 1, 2016 at 11:08 am

    Got our letter today – general waitlist #35 for Thorp.

  • 89. Banana  |  April 1, 2016 at 11:08 am


  • 90. Ivasdad  |  April 1, 2016 at 11:10 am

    @86 – With your last name they should have accept you in Decatur!… good luck to all of you!!

  • 91. KCabral  |  April 1, 2016 at 11:13 am

    @86/Erica Tesla —

    I don’t have any info about Boone or Stone but waitlists.

    General waitlists are for neighborhood & magnet cluster schools, they don’t use tiers. There’s only 1 waitlist, so actually you are truly 5th in line for Boone, you are probably in good shape there. Tiers are used for SEES and magnet schools. Good luck!

  • 92. Mjg  |  April 1, 2016 at 11:17 am

    Got my letter from 60643

    I’m wait listed tier 4 at
    Disney #12
    Owen # 6
    Andrew Jackson # 129

  • 93. Mjg  |  April 1, 2016 at 11:19 am

    I’m thinking with the wait list numbers if you have a low number 1-150 they give you a tier wait list queue but the higher number is general wait list though they are all one wait list pool

  • 94. rewing123  |  April 1, 2016 at 11:24 am

    got an acceptance to hamilton via email.

  • 95. parent  |  April 1, 2016 at 11:28 am

    @86, 91. No, tiers *are* used for magnets. There is waitlist for every tier. (This is just for entry year. No tiers after K).

  • 96. parent  |  April 1, 2016 at 11:33 am

    The use of tiers for magnets is explained on this page:

    “After the proximity students are accommodated, the remaining seats are distributed evenly among the four tiers, and the seats are filled by computerized lottery.”

  • 97. KCabral  |  April 1, 2016 at 11:41 am

    Tiers are NOT used at all for open enrollment/neighborhood or magnet cluster schools. Even in K. Remember that “magnet cluster” (which I referenced) is completely different from “magnet” (which I said does use tiers).

    Further from the link that 96/parent posted:

    “There is no proximity or tier consideration for non-entry grades in magnet schools, elementary magnet cluster schools, open enrollment schools, or high school magnet programs. In addition, proximity lotteries are not conducted at magnet schools that have an attendance boundary.”

  • 98. teachermom  |  April 1, 2016 at 11:55 am

    Just got home from picketing. No mail yet, but got an acceptance email from Brentano. 60647

  • 99. WPMomof3  |  April 1, 2016 at 11:56 am

    We were wait listed at Drummond with a wait list number of 133. Our “Queue” reads proximity. Anybody have any insight into what our chances might be? I’ve heard that, because there are fewer public pre-k options, more people accept the offers and fewer students are taken off the wait list. That makes total sense, but if anyone has more accurate info or experience, I would love the insight! Good luck to all the Kster and above parents. Stakes seem much higher.

  • 100. Mom60641  |  April 1, 2016 at 11:59 am

    We received an acceptance email from Brentano as well.

  • 101. apmommy  |  April 1, 2016 at 12:02 pm

    Any thoughts on Disney, stem or Sheridan? Are these decent schools?

  • 102. LSmom  |  April 1, 2016 at 12:03 pm

    @99, in the past Drummond hasn’t moved more than a few spots for PK3, especially in proximity. I wish there were more CPS Montessori options, it seems like there’s strong demand.

  • 103. AK  |  April 1, 2016 at 12:05 pm

    I toured Disney in the fall and yes, it is a decent school. Very tech-y; each kid gets an iPad. Principal is very in charge, might rub some people the wrong way, but she seems like she gets things done. Downsides (for me) would be the large class size and size of school overall (there are 7 K classroom pods). Good test scores, 95 R/96 M.

  • 104. Martha Victoria J  |  April 1, 2016 at 12:06 pm

    No. 76 at Hawthorne, proximity. Is that terrible??? I guess we’ll have to wait and find out.

  • 105. kp  |  April 1, 2016 at 12:13 pm

    Does anyone know if Alcott is handicapped accessible?

  • 106. rewing123  |  April 1, 2016 at 12:15 pm

    got an acceptance email for skinner north. didn’t list his scores.

  • 107. NP  |  April 1, 2016 at 12:17 pm

    Got our letter today…. #6 on a general wait list. I’m clueless….is there hope we will get in?

    This is for 1st grade, Wildwood

  • 108. LNZ  |  April 1, 2016 at 12:19 pm

    Received the letter today for 2nd grade — offered at Disney I and 9th on the wait list at Disney II, which is a few blocks and our preferred school. Any thoughts on the Disney II waitlist movement?

  • 109. ig  |  April 1, 2016 at 12:23 pm

    We are 60642 zip this is for second grade, not sure tier.
    School: drummond 184, mayer 294, also 85, lassale 4, newberry 20.

    got offered seat at skinner north as 99% reading and math.

  • 110. Banana  |  April 1, 2016 at 12:26 pm

    We got an acceptance email from Hamilton! I don’t remember much about the school, so we’ll have to figure out a way to do the tour.

  • 111. Apmommy  |  April 1, 2016 at 12:30 pm

    Does anyone know a realistic number for actual consideration on these wait list – should you cross your fingers for 1-10 or is there hope if you are in the 20’s?

  • 112. Momof3  |  April 1, 2016 at 12:33 pm

    Received letter. Wait listed for all school. Applied to 20. Tier 3
    Franklin, tier 3 #3
    STEM tier 3 #5
    Norwood Park general #9
    Coonley general #12
    The rest range from 43- 487.
    My first choice has been Franklin. Followed by Coonley. I feel I have a good chance for Franklin but don’t want to get my hopes up!

  • 113. LSmom  |  April 1, 2016 at 12:34 pm

    @Apmommy, it varies so much depending on the school. For Disney 2, the list doesn’t move much (although @108, 9 seems possible), while other schools exhaust a wait list of over 100.

  • 114. Sloopr  |  April 1, 2016 at 12:34 pm

    101, steer clear of STEM. It’s a hot mess. i know several parents who love Sheridan.

  • 115. neighborhood parent  |  April 1, 2016 at 12:37 pm

    apmommy – there’s no (‘realistic’) way to judge the WL #’s as it’s entirely school dependent. Some schools won’t get past #1 in any tier… some schools might call through their entire WL of hundreds of students. in order to Crowdsource your #’s…. you’ll need to share the name of the school (or research on previous years’ threads)

  • 116. Apmommy  |  April 1, 2016 at 12:39 pm

    Thanks- wondering if there is any movement for
    Disney 1- listed 12
    Sheridan – listed 26

  • 117. northpark  |  April 1, 2016 at 12:39 pm

    101/108. We have kids in both schools Disney schools and each kid loves their respective school and have told us they do NOT want to even consider transferring just to be together. Our family’s commutes are not an issue so it works for us. IMO, both schools are excellent depends on whether your child will do well in a large or small school.

  • 118. LSmom  |  April 1, 2016 at 12:40 pm

    @116, Disney 1 tends to have a decent amount of movement because it’s so big.

  • 119. LSmom  |  April 1, 2016 at 1:00 pm

    Got the letter, we applied to 20 schools, Tier 3. Most of our numbers were really high (834 from Blaine!):

    Burr — offered, will accept for now
    Goethe — 2
    Franklin — 13 (does anyone know if they will have one K class or two next year?)
    LaSalle II — 44

  • 120. Julia  |  April 1, 2016 at 1:08 pm

    Tier 4: we were offered a spot at Newberry. It looks pretty great, any newberry families on here who can share their experience, it would be appreciated!

    We are 4th on the waitlist for Peterson, got some decent waitlist numbers (between 10 and 20) at Disney, Peirce, Clinton, McCutcheon.

    I am foolishly pining for Hawthorne where our waitlist number is 99. So three entire classes of students would have to turn down a spot in order for us to get an offer (I think they have about 30 spots for non-proximity, non-siblings).

  • 121. Susan  |  April 1, 2016 at 1:08 pm

    Erica. We were in the 30s on Stone’s proximity list last year for Kindergarten. We didn’t get a call. I called them at some point and they said they had so many siblings to accommodate that I should pursue other options. Maybe the situation is different this year (my fingers are crossed for you that they are).

  • 122. anxious mom  |  April 1, 2016 at 1:11 pm

    Does anyone know if Stone wait list moves through a lot on the wait list? got wait listed at 36 in tier 2. thx! luck to all!

  • 123. anxious mom  |  April 1, 2016 at 1:12 pm

    thanks for the insight Susan!

  • 124. New CPSmom  |  April 1, 2016 at 1:18 pm

    Tier 3: In at Lenart and WL at the following:
    Sheridan – tier 1 #33
    Andrew Jackson – tier 1 #109
    Ward – general #86
    Sutherland – general #122
    Audubon – general #189
    Can someone explain the general wait list and what that means? What are our chances the wait list will move?

  • 125. MOM  |  April 1, 2016 at 1:18 pm

    #86 on Disney II … no chance, right?

  • 126. SL  |  April 1, 2016 at 1:23 pm

    #58 on LaSalle…Is there any chance to get a call?

  • 127. Rebecca Wells  |  April 1, 2016 at 1:29 pm


    Zipcode 60630

    Thorp – #10 proximity
    Audubon – 11
    Coonley – 63
    Burley – 11
    Beaubien – 60
    Wildwood – 38
    Hitch – 49

    What are our chances for Thorp?? It’s our top choice…

  • 128. Rebecca Wells  |  April 1, 2016 at 1:32 pm

    Oh, and we’re at 800 for Blaine. HA!

  • 129. mm  |  April 1, 2016 at 1:42 pm

    #127- a long time ago my daughter was #8 on list at Thorp and she got in. My advice-if you want to go there, go talk to office staff and express interest.

  • 130. K10  |  April 1, 2016 at 1:45 pm

    What are the differences with Tier waitlist and General waitlist? Are they separate pools? Not sure how that works – with order of preference, etc. For instance, if we had #2 at LaSalle II (Tier x) and #20 at Wildwood (General) – how are the offers then chosen by the schools?

  • 131. APMA  |  April 1, 2016 at 1:45 pm

    Any thoughts on Owens?

  • 132. K10  |  April 1, 2016 at 1:46 pm

    @129 – do you like Thorp? Did your daughter stay?

  • 133. Rebecca Wells  |  April 1, 2016 at 1:47 pm

    #129…how does one “express interest” in the school without coming across like an entitled/begging jackass? 🙂 I’m not one to grovel, usually…

  • 134. Stem parent  |  April 1, 2016 at 1:50 pm

    @apmommy. We are currently at stem. Have been very happy. Other then the class sizes being too big(every cps school) and no language option ( after school enrichment only, outside our family budget), my daughter enjoys the different classrooms. She has math, English, technology, engineering, music, gym, art, social studies and health. I like that different teachers specialize in each subject.The curriculum is not as fast as I had hoped for, but the school tested high and in Chicago you will need the test scores to get to high school. I entered the lottery in case I was not happy, but will not accept the offer that came today. Stem curriculum is the future(in my opinion). If I can answer any questions, I am happy to share my experience as this was a trying time for me last year.

  • 135. neighborhood parent  |  April 1, 2016 at 1:53 pm

    K10- the ‘tiered’ WL’s are ‘replacement’ waitlists. if a tier X seat is turned down then the next person on tier X Waitlist gets an offer. (and proximity WL works the same – if an offer for a proximity seat is turned down then the WL for proximity is used to replace that offer)

    the ‘general’ WL’s are not reliant on tiers, they represent a single file line of applicants.

  • 136. irishmom  |  April 1, 2016 at 1:54 pm

    Tier 3: Franklin 77
    Hawthorne 190
    LaSalle 187
    Newberry 90
    Stone 80
    Hamilton 408
    Peirce 81
    Chappell 56
    Ravenswood 195
    McPherson 85
    Prescott 141
    Agassiz 201
    Disney Offered
    Disney II 228
    Audubon 40

    We will most likely accept our offer from Disney but just out of curiousity, does anyone know how much Peirce’s waitlist moves?

  • 137. mm  |  April 1, 2016 at 1:57 pm

    #132-yes, my son there as well. i think the elementary is top-notch. we are considering leaving for 7th if academic center works out.

  • 138. neighborhood parent  |  April 1, 2016 at 2:01 pm

    irishmom – wow, those are some big numbers!
    with regard to Peirce, it will depend if they run 4 kinder or 5 kinder classes. This year they only had 4 kinder classes (the school is approaching their space limit)…. and more neighborhood kids are enrolling (we were number 15 on this years sibling WL)…. there’s a chance … you should attend the Open House to get a feel (if possible)
    Thurs. Apr 7th 8:15 am

  • 139. Ria Basil  |  April 1, 2016 at 2:06 pm

    Do the proximity waitlists tend to move more slowly than tier waitlists for magnets? We are #2 on the proximity waitlist for a magnet, but I imagine it’s possible there could be no movement on the waitlist. Is there a way to find out how many slots for K were filled based on proximity?

  • 140. AK  |  April 1, 2016 at 2:09 pm

    @139/Ria Basil — The class is filled with siblings first, then I think the next 40% go to proximity, then the remaining slots are divided among the tiers. Whether the prox list moves or not probably varies a great deal from school to school.

  • 141. New CPSmom  |  April 1, 2016 at 2:14 pm

    @135 – Thank you. Do schools use both wait list methods or is it an either or?

  • 142. Jen K  |  April 1, 2016 at 2:17 pm

    @125 regarding Disney II wait list: there are only 50 K seats, half of which usually go to siblings. We usually stay in the single digits for wait list numbers.
    For the parent asking about #9 on the 2nd grade wait list: that list is after the sibling wait list. In many grades, we have no movement (including siblings) because nobody leaves.

  • 143. neighborhood parent  |  April 1, 2016 at 2:35 pm

    141 – no. either or
    Tiers are used by magnets (and SEES)
    general WL are used by neighborhood schools (inc. magnet cluster)

    *only for kinder/entry year
    * remember there are sibling and proximity buckets too (in addition to tier buckets)

  • 144. MCV  |  April 1, 2016 at 2:39 pm

    Can anyone give any insight on Franklin? Heard admin doesn’t address bullying and not very parent friendly. Also heard the principal’s contract wasn’t renewed because of LSC issues. Academically the school is excellent and I feel my daughter would thrive at a fine arts school. Just want to make sure she will feel safe. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

  • 145. Ria Basil  |  April 1, 2016 at 2:39 pm

    Thanks, AK. Do you think the school would tell me how many of the offered K spots are based on proximity so I have some sense of whether there’s a realistic chance we’d get a call either this summer or school year?

  • 146. AK  |  April 1, 2016 at 2:43 pm

    @145/Ria — It can’t hurt to call; the worst that can happen is they’ll tell you they can’t say. I think it was on the Disney tour that the principal said 40% were proximity. If you know how many K classes there are, you can kind of make (very rough estimates). Of course the X factor is siblings, which, from what I’ve heard, can take up to half of all available spots.

  • 147. Meesh  |  April 1, 2016 at 2:54 pm

    Best waitlist numbers.
    #1 Sheridan, #1 Burr, #25 Franklin, #41 Audubon, #65 Hawthorne, #82 Hamilton.

    Thoughts on those odds?

  • 148. 60630  |  April 1, 2016 at 2:56 pm

    Thorp 23 (Proximity)

    Tier 4:
    Stone 3
    Newverry 23
    Ravenswood 10
    Wildwood 15

    3rd Grade (all general)
    Audubon 5
    Norwood Park 4
    Peterson 5
    Wildwood 8

    everything else is too high to matter

  • 149. Shouldimovetosuburbs?  |  April 1, 2016 at 3:03 pm

    Mesh, you have a great shot at Sheridan and burr. Bad odds at Franklin. When people get a seat there, they stay.

  • 150. Emily Donelan  |  April 1, 2016 at 3:03 pm


  • 151. HydeParkMom  |  April 1, 2016 at 3:07 pm

    Following! I went through this process last year and just wanted to offers insight. Good luck to everyone!

  • 152. Sw  |  April 1, 2016 at 3:07 pm

    Waitlisted everywhere.
    Lower numbers:
    Prescott 8
    Disney 38 proximity
    Audobon 88

    180 proximity for Hawthorne which was my first choice

    Here’s my other numbers
    Alcott 188
    Blaine 403!
    Burley 149
    Coonley 384
    Lasalle tier 4 100
    Mayer 122
    Newberry tier 4 107
    Ravens wood 74
    Inter-American General E 318
    Hamilton 369
    Agassiz 292

    Neighborhood is Nettlehorst but just didn’t love it when I went on tour last year. Guess I will have to be checking it out again.

    Chances of places?

  • 153. Kate P  |  April 1, 2016 at 3:08 pm

    Tier 3
    Burley 216
    Chappell 78
    Coonley 655
    Disney 70
    Hamilton 155
    Hawthorne 127
    Inter-American 177
    Jahn 71
    Lasalle 45
    Mayer 237
    Peirce 38
    Prescott OFFERED
    Ravenswood 167
    Stone OFFERED
    Agassiz 89
    Audubon 35
    Alcott 262
    Blaine 10
    Boone 37
    Newberry 143

    Not sure what we’ll be accepting, but just glad to have at least 2 options. Hoping for a call eventually from Peirce or Blaine??

  • 154. Alcottmom  |  April 1, 2016 at 3:10 pm

    @105 Alcott is not accessible. Guessing many of the pre-1970s schools are not. I’m not sure what CPS’s obligation is for this, but you might try calling them to see what your options are. I know we just got a full time nurse due to the needs of a student, so maybe they are required to provide you with a reasonable accommodation. I’m sure someone on this board has experience with this since so few CPS schools are accessible.

  • 155. smpt  |  April 1, 2016 at 3:11 pm

    @MCV re Franklin – my children have been at Franklin for the last 6 years and I have been involved in the FOF. It is true our Principal’s contract was not renewed and we are in search for a new Principal. I don’t really know anything of bullying going on and my kids are in the 5th grade. Overall it has been a wonderful experience for us. There are dedicated teachers and staff. Very welcoming parents – if you attend we have a new buddy program where you’re paired with a veteran family to help guide you the first year. Piano, advance math, fine arts and technology all are wonderful programs to enhance the academic experience. Hope that helps.

  • 156. neighborhood parent  |  April 1, 2016 at 3:12 pm

    GL kate.
    not likely from blaine, but likely from peirce
    and you’ll begin the game of CPS Musical Chairs for someone at Prescott or Stone.
    : )

  • 157. neighborhood parent  |  April 1, 2016 at 3:14 pm

    oh sorry hit enter too soon.
    s/b on the Prescott or Stone WL.

  • 158. Ivasdad  |  April 1, 2016 at 3:17 pm

    Can anyone clarify on how many K will Hamilton and Prescott have, PLEASE?

  • 159. Kate P  |  April 1, 2016 at 3:18 pm

    Any input regarding Stone or Prescott? Didnt tour either 😦

  • 160. teachermom  |  April 1, 2016 at 3:19 pm


    Tier 2 Wait List:
    Disney II – 84
    Stem – 146

    General Wait List:
    Suder – 203
    Mayer – 286
    Drummond – 603
    Moos – 25
    Monroe – 14
    Goethe – 124
    Darwin – 18
    Pulaski – 213

    We will be going to Brentano where we have attended PreK for the past two years. It was fun playing the game!

  • 161. AK  |  April 1, 2016 at 3:23 pm

    @159 — I toured Stone in the fall. It is a traditional school and classroom setting. I remember they had a really cool library, but a small gym. They have Spanish 2x week, PE 2x week, art, music, and computer. They have great test scores 99 R/99 M, and seemed like they had a strong parent community. They do have a dress code, but doesn’t seem strictly enforced, if I recall. And, I *think* they have 3 K classes this year.

  • 162. HM  |  April 1, 2016 at 3:27 pm

    Applied to all 20 schools. Offered Disney II, Burr and Peirce. Will most likely accept Disney II.

    Tier 4 wait list #14 for Stone, which was my top choice. Any chance?

    And can anyone weigh in about Disney II? It seemed very rigid to me on the tour, and that silent wave they make the kids do creeped me out. But we’ll take it! Thankful to have options.

    Good luck to everyone! Such a stressful process.

  • 163. northpark  |  April 1, 2016 at 3:30 pm

    @162. What grade was your child accepted at Disney II?

  • 164. 60660  |  April 1, 2016 at 3:34 pm

    re Peirce –
    there is an open house coming up on Thursday April 7th at 8:15.
    http://peirce.cps.edu/ – great school! check it out!

  • 165. Jen K  |  April 1, 2016 at 3:38 pm

    @162 D2 parent and tour-giver 🙂 here. not sure about the silent wave but maybe we call it something else. We definitely focus on routine but kids are given choices within a framework. We will be having a tour for accepted parents/guardians (adults only) next week (on Thursday, I believe). Call the office on Monday if you want to take another look. I couldn’t be happier with our experience there.

  • 166. BigCityMom  |  April 1, 2016 at 3:39 pm

    For K:

    Offers: Disney I, Alcott, Stone

    #1 on Coonley sibling list for K (but not yet sure how much of a chance we really have)

    Lower waitlist numbers:
    Jahn 11
    Ravenswood 28
    (rest are higher)

    I think it’s really between Disney & Alcott. Daughter is currently at pre-k at Disney so we’re familiar with it. And we can walk to it. But there are a few negatives. Can anyone answer a couple of preliminary questions about Alcott: What is the after-school program like? Do the elementary school students automatically get into the high school?

  • 167. cpsobsessed  |  April 1, 2016 at 3:40 pm

    “Does anyone know a realistic number for actual consideration on these wait list – should you cross your fingers for 1-10 or is there hope if you are in the 20’s?”

    Totally varies by school. Since many people put down 20 schools, there are a lot of offers that won’t be accepted.
    Some schools move down into the… 200’s by end of summer.
    Other popular magnets (is Hawthorne) may not even get to #2 (and even #1 can be iffy.)

    Full neighborhood schools like Coonley or Blaine will have virtually no lottery spots.

  • 168. Banana  |  April 1, 2016 at 3:40 pm

    Tier 4
    Offered Hamilton

    Aggassiz – 227
    Audubon – 9
    Goethe – 122
    Burley – 515
    Hamilton – Offer!!
    Hawthorne – 82
    Newberry – 121
    Disney II – 55
    LaSalle II (poximity) – 88
    Burr – 17
    Mayer – 307
    Mitchell – 32
    Coonley – 457
    Prescott – 187
    Pritzker – 283
    Pulaski – 120

    Pretty happy with Hamilton but both Burr and Audubon are closer. Any idea how their wait lists move?

  • 169. Victoria C  |  April 1, 2016 at 3:44 pm

    What is the difference between Tier 2 and general?

  • 170. LSmom  |  April 1, 2016 at 3:47 pm

    @168, in past years, Burr has moved quite a bit.

  • 171. HM  |  April 1, 2016 at 3:56 pm

    @163. Sorry, forgot to mention. For kindergarten.

  • 172. Archmom  |  April 1, 2016 at 4:02 pm

    We were offered LaSalle for second grade. Currently my child is at Edison but we do the lottery to keep options open. I would love feedback on LaSalle. We would consider changing if the school has a great arts program and offers a well-rounded education.

  • 173. CPSAppalled  |  April 1, 2016 at 4:04 pm

    Sigh: 4th year running, waitlisted at Disney II (proximity, #7). Our lowest number yet (for 7th grade). Any hope that 7 others on proximity list will turn down an offer for 7th grade?

  • 174. klpierce17  |  April 1, 2016 at 4:05 pm

    @166. J at School does after school care and after school enrichments. You can get on to their website to see current offerings. We also have some enrichments run by the teachers. Right now, you do automatically get into the high school. But, I would not necessarily count on them being connected by the time your child is ready for that. There is a movement to split them as CPS doesn’t support us as a PK-12 school in a way that makes sense financially or logistically. I’d be happy to give you additional info if you have specific questions. I have 3rd and 5th graders this year and we’ve been there since PK.

  • 175. 1st-timer  |  April 1, 2016 at 4:06 pm

    Got offered Thorpe for kindergarten. Any parents out there who have kids in Thorpe and what are your thoughts? Give me some reasons why I should accept. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thank you

  • 176. Rebecca Wells  |  April 1, 2016 at 4:08 pm

    Just to be clear…if we are offered a spot off a waitlist we can accept, and then still be offered another spot from another school, correct? We are under #15 for a few schools and I want to make sure I’m keeping options open if they call…

  • 177. Jen K  |  April 1, 2016 at 4:11 pm

    @173 that’s not a bad number. We add seats in 7th, and some accepted students decide to stay at their elementary school, some get into ACs, so the list moves. Wait until after the acceptance deadline has passed to call the school to ask about movement, though.

  • 178. Mary Talbot  |  April 1, 2016 at 4:15 pm

    Disney – offered to one child but waitlisted for the other (and how’s this for irony, my waitlisted child is the one who goes there now, but only in PreK).

    Tier 4 – waitlist #155

  • 179. KG  |  April 1, 2016 at 4:27 pm

    For KG–no offers, wait list numbers.

    Magnets-Tier 4

    Disney 205
    Disney II 238 (proximity)
    Franklin 138
    Hawthorne 294
    Jackson 192
    LaSalle 31
    LaSalle II 69
    Newberry 72
    STEM 98
    Stone 71
    Thorp 57

    General Lottery Schools

    Beaubien 1 (sibling list)
    Drummond 344
    Edgebrook 29
    Franklin 138
    Hamilton 382
    Murphy 1
    Prescott 19
    Agassiz 294
    Burr 173
    WIldwood 145

  • 180. NW  |  April 1, 2016 at 4:30 pm

    60622 – Just got the letter.

    Wait listed for all (general) –

    Blaine – 10
    Prescott – 49
    Audubon -70
    Stem – 92
    Lasalle II – 133
    Drummond – 145
    Disney II – 238

  • 181. Chicassie  |  April 1, 2016 at 4:31 pm


  • 182. Kate P  |  April 1, 2016 at 4:33 pm

    #180…#10 at Blaine….odd. Me too. General waitlist?

  • 183. morganhalstead  |  April 1, 2016 at 4:35 pm


    Franklin will have two Kindergarten. I feel so incredibly lucky to send my kiddos there. It’s a dream. I didn’t know how much the arts would matter to kiddos world. You might get a call with that #.

  • 184. MamaBlue  |  April 1, 2016 at 4:38 pm

    Entering K

    Norwood Park: 124
    Thorp O: offered (proximity)
    Wildwood: 26
    Edgebrook: 189
    Disney II: 62
    Hawthorne: 176

    Will be turning down Thorp O, as we got an offer for a SEES school that we’re accepting. Best of luck to all! And don’t give up hope if you didn’t get an offer in this first round. There is SO much movement that happens over the next few months.

  • 185. BigCityMom  |  April 1, 2016 at 4:40 pm

    @174: Thank you! Right now we’re leaning toward Alcott quite a bit. We just have to figure out logistics (we have an older child at Coonley). Alcott’s 7:30 start time actually helps a lot in that regard.

  • 186. LSmom  |  April 1, 2016 at 4:42 pm

    Thanks @morganhalstead, I hope so!

  • 187. Maria  |  April 1, 2016 at 4:42 pm

    My son goes to Chappell for K. The class size is 26. My sister is a CPS teacher and she has a class size of 29. She says it makes a huge difference. The school she teaches at is the only school I would switch him to if he gets the offer. Chappell is great. Sit tight. Chappell only offered until the first day of school and he was waitlisted #122. So hold on….

  • 188. BuenaDad  |  April 1, 2016 at 4:52 pm

    Tier 3
    Coonley: 40 (but offered for SEES)
    Disney: Offered (not accpeting due to Connley SEES)
    Greeley: 57
    Hamilton: 1
    Hawthorne: 53 (would accept over Coonley SEES if possible)
    Inter-American: 436
    LaSalle: 155
    Mayer: 763
    Newberry: 70
    Franklin: 95
    Audubon: 76
    Blaine: 183
    Burley: 88

  • 189. makesmeproud  |  April 1, 2016 at 4:55 pm

    Son got into Burr (K) Any thoughts on this school? scored 99 read/93 math but no offers. Want to make sure he is challenged if attend magnet

  • 190. CLP  |  April 1, 2016 at 5:02 pm

    60622 Tier 2 Waitlisted for all schools for K…
    Lowest Waitlisted numbers:
    Talcott 39
    Mayer 46
    Mitchell 56
    Then the rest range from 130-400…

  • 191. Mom  |  April 1, 2016 at 5:09 pm

    @105 re Accessibility of Alcott. Here is the report http://schoolreports.cps.edu/Accessibility_PDF_Summary_2015/2040ADA.pdf

  • 192. MBShaw  |  April 1, 2016 at 5:15 pm

    Tier 4 waitlisted for all schools very high except Ravenswood: our son in question is trying to get in as K as a sibling – and we are sibling waitlist #1.

    Last year Ravenswood experienced a large neighborhood population in K, and this year they are expecting the same. So – my understanding is that they HOPE to make it through the sibling waitlist for out-of-boundary, but are not positive they will be able to offer even that. We are told that even the sibling waitlist probably won’t move until mid-summer.

    They will start keeping their website updated with waitlist numbers starting next week.

  • 193. Nicole Vitellaro  |  April 1, 2016 at 5:21 pm

    From 60630

    (First choice):
    Disney II #7 Tier 4

    Home school is Beaubien

  • 194. FirstTimeUp  |  April 1, 2016 at 5:24 pm

    Tier 2
    NTA-97( general)
    Thorp O-33

    Any thoughts on my chances with NTA, Franklin, Lasalle and Thorp.

  • 195. AK  |  April 1, 2016 at 5:27 pm

    Tier 3, entering K

    Chappell 80
    Coonley 348
    Goudy 1
    Peirce 48
    Prescott 58
    Alcott 226
    Audubon 12
    Blaine 373

    Tier 3
    Disney 72
    Franklin 101
    LaSalle 102
    Newberry 166

    Anyone have any idea if Audubon might get to 12?

  • 196. Emily  |  April 1, 2016 at 5:28 pm

    Kellogg hasn’t come up on this thread yet, but if it does and you’re considering it, feel free to email me. eslambert at yahoo. I’m a parent of a K there now and happy to answer any questions.

  • 197. Nwmom  |  April 1, 2016 at 5:29 pm

    Disney-offered (debating to accept)
    Thorp: #55

    Does anyone have insight of Disney that could share?
    Thank you

  • 198. llmm  |  April 1, 2016 at 5:30 pm

    Anyone get mail in 60659? We have not 😦

  • 199. 1st-timer  |  April 1, 2016 at 5:38 pm

    #cpsteacherandmom………can you give me any input on Thorpe?

  • 200. Nicole  |  April 1, 2016 at 5:39 pm

    Disney or Disney II ?

  • 201. kp  |  April 1, 2016 at 5:39 pm

    @191– wow. thank you.

  • 202. Jen  |  April 1, 2016 at 5:42 pm

    Tier 4
    Entering K
    Wait listed for all schools

    Norwood Park-general, 234
    Edgebrook-general, 154
    Disney I I- tier 4, 236
    Thorp O-tier 4, 14
    Wildwood-general, 290
    Oriole Park-general, 48

    Does anyone know the movement on the Thorp tier lists for kindergarten? This was our first choice, trying to decide whether to wait it out or stick with Montessori for next year.

    Thanks, and good luck to everyone!

  • 203. Non Entry Level  |  April 1, 2016 at 5:43 pm

    Ok, who wants to talk to about 1st grade exceptions? Anyone out there have info or experience on this?

    We filed a 1st grade exemption for our kid with an early September birthday, while also submitting our SEES and magnet school applications. I did this in person and received a receipt, so I know that CPS got all three forms.

    We got our magnet letter today, and every school is marked “not eligible.” On the back of the letter, it says, “IF YOUR CHILD WAS SELECTED” at the very top, and then a few paragraphs below that, “If you submitted a First Grade Age Exception form with your child’s application, contact the Office of Access and Enrollment at…”

    So my first question is: why was my child considered ineligible? When my husband called earlier, we were told that our child was too young. (He was unaware/forgot that we filed a 1st grade exception form.) Of course, by the time I got home, I could not get through on the hotline. If the 1st grade exception form does not apply to the magnet schools, why is there that paragraph on the back of the letter?

    My second question is: I assume that, regardless of the mistake, we are just out of luck, right? I mean, other kids have already been offered spots in the schools we were registering for. The lottery has come and gone, and we were not entered, and there’s no undoing that. I’m not missing something, right?

  • 204. Nwmom  |  April 1, 2016 at 5:50 pm

    Nicole- Disney I

  • 205. Vanessa  |  April 1, 2016 at 5:52 pm

    from 60647
    Waitlisted for all three Montessori schools (preK)
    Drummond: #40 proximity
    Mayer: #44 Tier 4
    Suder: #69 Tier 4

    Really hoping to get into Drummond, but I know the list doesn’t move much for pre-k.

  • 206. Happyhappy  |  April 1, 2016 at 6:10 pm

    Offered LaSalle for entering 4th Grade. Can someone please offer thoughts on LaSalle? Currently at Drummond.

  • 207. ALU  |  April 1, 2016 at 6:24 pm

    from 60647

    Drummond 109
    Mayer 18
    Suder 218

    Any input on whether we have a chance at Mayer into a non-entry grade level?

  • 208. Cat5  |  April 1, 2016 at 6:24 pm

    1st grade twins. These are my best. Any thoughts on my wait list schools? Any hope?
    Swift Offered
    Mayer 11 & 12
    Coonley 20 & 21
    Solomon 23 & 24
    Chappell. 23 & 23

  • 209. Katya  |  April 1, 2016 at 6:27 pm

    If we are number 65 on wait list for pre-k 4 y o – what are our chances

  • 210. realchicagomama  |  April 1, 2016 at 6:29 pm

    @LNZ – unlikely. There are usually only 1 spot in non entry grades and Sibs get preference.

  • 211. AK  |  April 1, 2016 at 6:31 pm

    @208/Cat5 — I just toured Swift a couple of weeks ago. I really like the principal and his K classes are only 24 kids, which is about unheard of in the city. It seems like a school with a lot of potential.

  • 212. WPMomof3  |  April 1, 2016 at 6:45 pm

    @LSmom: Thanks, I figured as much. I completely agree! The school directors at the Montessori open houses talked about receiving upwards of a thousand applicants for thirtyish spots. I also think it speaks to the need for affordable, accessible public pre-k options. We’re in an okay boat because I can be home, but I know several people who applied whose kids are in daycare. They want more of a school setting/experience, but they aren’t available to provide mid-day pick-up or drop-off.

  • 213. Pam  |  April 1, 2016 at 6:47 pm

    We are #23 on the waitlist for Oriole Park. Looks like this might be our best chance. Anyone know how far down they get on their waitlist?

  • 214. 1stDayAtTheRodeo  |  April 1, 2016 at 6:47 pm

    60625, tier 2
    entering kindergarten



    waitlisted (general unless noted):

    Stone (tier 2) #1
    Hamilton #9
    Pritzker #21
    Hawthorne (tier 2) #29
    Von Linne #33
    McPherson #41
    LaSalle II (tier 2) #47
    Peterson #50
    Peirce #105
    Mayer #113
    Audubon #212
    Drummond #223
    Coonley #250
    Disney II #276
    Ravenswood #285
    Inter-American #384
    Blaine #421
    Burley #446

    Can anybody tell me what is a remotely realistic possibility here? I feel like Stone is almost certain and Hamilton is a pretty good shot, and that maybe (?) we can make it into Pritzker or Hawthorne or Von Linne. But I’m not sure if we are too far down the list for those last three, and/or if we have a chance anywhere further down the list. I’d love to hear some opinions on this.

    Our top choices were Mayer, Drummond, Ravenswood, Coonley, and Audubon, so… well, so much for that. But it seems like we have at least a couple of options.

  • 215. Northprk  |  April 1, 2016 at 6:47 pm

    60659, tier 4, for Kindergarten
    Disney 1: offered (sibling)
    Disney II: offered (sibling)
    Stone: offered
    Lasalle: #44
    Will accept at DII bec child will probably do better in smaller school. We do love Disney 1, as well where older child has excelled in gifted program.

  • 216. Mom60641  |  April 1, 2016 at 6:49 pm


    Disney II 70

    Tier 3
    Disney 184
    Franklin 88
    Hawthorne 211
    Jackson 98
    Lasalle 126
    Lasalle II 211
    Newberry 144
    Thorp 54

    Goethe 98
    Hamilton 180
    Mitchell 44
    Murphy 86
    Pulaski 32
    Agassiz 31
    Alcott 390
    Prescott 169

    I feel pretty good knowing that we have some options.:-)

  • 217. 1stDayAtTheRodeo  |  April 1, 2016 at 6:51 pm

    Also. It’s been a long day and my brain isn’t quite functioning enough to remember exactly how this works, so forgive me if this is a silly question. If I get an offer for School A and waitlisted for School B, am I taken off the wait list for School B if I accept the offer from School A? Once I accept the bird in the hand do I automatically forfeit all the rest of the birds in the bush?

  • 218. WPMomof3  |  April 1, 2016 at 6:53 pm

    My husband was talking through the CPS lottery with coworkers, and a C-Suite exec he works with who has his children at a very desirable magnet mentioned how he and his wife had talked to school board members and the principal when the lottery wasn’t looking promising. Has anyone had success with this method? (Absolutely no judgements here.) Our numbers are so ridiculously high I don’t think it would ever work, but I did kind of wonder.

  • 219. BigCityMom  |  April 1, 2016 at 6:57 pm

    @217: It’s on the back of your letter: “If you decide to accept a seat at a school where your child has been selected, it is possible to receive an offer within the next weeks or months from a school where your child is on the waitlist . . . Should this happen, you can decline the seat that you originally accepted, if you wish, and accept the second offer instead . . .”

  • 220. About-to-breakdown  |  April 1, 2016 at 6:59 pm

    I NEED SOME MAJOR HELP OR GUIDANCE!!!! I applied for O.A Thorp and was offered a spot…..but I finally noticed that it is an offer for Thorp, J. Are you kidding me? I thought I made a mistake and applied for the wrong school but when I went back to my application online it was done correctly for O.A Thorp. Has this happened to anyone before and is this just a clerical error or am I completely not in the running for the school that was initially applied for? I’m literally having a meltdown and it’s after hours and won’t get an answer until Monday. Can someone please help me understand what is going on and whether I am no longer in the running for the school I wanted to get my daughter in, in the first place. I am in utter limbo and in tears. Please help

  • 221. JED  |  April 1, 2016 at 7:02 pm

    Pre-K 3
    Drummond: 9 (proximity)

    The Drummond news feels so mixed! On the one hand, I feel like it’s a pretty good wait list spot, considering the number of applications. On the other hand, I feel like it’s still a long shot. I will probably remain obsessed all the way up until September! Can’t afford private school, so I really hope something works out. I still haven’t heard about the Ready to Learn enrollment process yet for this year. Anyone else heard anything?

  • 222. 136  |  April 1, 2016 at 7:07 pm

    Drummond has gone a lot deeper into the wait lists since the principal left two years ago. The “new” principal isn’t awesome and it’s been a “challenge” … many families have left. So, you might have a better chance than you think.

  • 223. Mm2  |  April 1, 2016 at 7:10 pm

    Wait listed all the schools. What are our chances for Stone #27 proximity, Goudy #70 general, Disney II #108, Inter-American #311? Anyone with experience on WL on these schools?

  • 224. JED  |  April 1, 2016 at 7:10 pm

    Thanks for the encouragement! That’s good to hear. (Well, not about the principal, of course… but I’m still more than willing to give it a try.)

  • 225. HydeParkMom  |  April 1, 2016 at 7:15 pm

    ” @Nwmom, one of my friends has her kids there. She likes but it’s heavy academic driven. They incorporate a “pod” classroom where multiple classrooms are in a single room.

  • 226. veteran parent  |  April 1, 2016 at 7:15 pm

    218 – if the execs.’ kids are in 5th grade or older, that’s the way the system USED to work (for reals!) … rather corrupt for some of the most coveted seats.
    while i’m sure that some of these conversations do currently happen, i believe that front offices/administrators generally toe the line and keep to the Central OFfice list.
    If you pursue this angle be prepared to not have a seat confirmed until very near to school starting. gl!

  • 227. Nat  |  April 1, 2016 at 7:19 pm

    We received our letter today. My 5 year old was accepted at Sabin. We are waitlisted #23 for LaSalle II and Disney II #50. Does anyone one how likely we are to move up on either one of the waitlists?

  • 228. WPMomof3  |  April 1, 2016 at 7:27 pm

    @JED: I called about a month back, and it seemed to me that they were still working out the kinks. The woman I spoke to did not have an exact date, but she thought it would be “some time in April or early May”. It might be worth a call. I do know the spaces are fairly limited, and the woman kept telling me how I should ensure I had a back-up plan. Even if you can’t afford private schools, there are many that offer scholarships for full or partial tuition. I know my son’s does, and several others that we looked at did as well (or at least stated they did on the applications). Another option is a sort of “coop preschool”. They’re really popular in NYC, where preschool is crazy expensive. It’s just a bunch of parents (w/ or w/o the support of a teacher) who trade off hosting, teaching, supplying materials.

  • 229. Chicago loyal  |  April 1, 2016 at 7:30 pm


    Drummond #8
    Inter-American Tier 3 #48

    Why is there no tier for Drummond? Also, are the PK3 and PK4 classes together or are those separate spots?

  • 230. michael  |  April 1, 2016 at 7:32 pm

    No offers, our neighborhood school is Nettelhorst though so we are at least in good shape.

    Wait list:
    Hawthorne (Proximity): 13
    LaSalle (Tier 4): 18
    Blaine (General): 501

    Does the proximity wait list for Hawthorne mean we will only be offered a spot if at least 13 students from the proximity pool decline? With the tier lists it is more clear to me that this is the case.

  • 231. BigCityMom  |  April 1, 2016 at 7:34 pm

    Another question for Alcott parents: I thought I heard that parents had to subsidize full-day kindergarten in the past. Is that still true? And if so, what does that mean, exactly?

  • 232. Rebecca Wells  |  April 1, 2016 at 7:36 pm

    Pam, we’re #20 on the list for Oriole Park. I agree…looks like a decent chance. I’d be very happy to get in there if we miss our top choice!

    Our full list:

    Entering Kindergarten.

    Clinton – #3 (not sure why I put this on there…maybe because of the decent parent reviews recently? Any insight on this school?)
    Columbus – #5
    Thorp, O – #10 proximity (our top choice)
    Palmer – #11
    Audubon – #11
    Burley – #11
    Oriole Park – #20
    Wildwood – #38
    Hitch – #49
    Beaubien – #60
    Solomon – #66
    Farnsworth – #73
    Norwood Park – #82
    Coonley – #83
    Goethe – #83
    Disney II – #165 (tier 3)
    Edgebrook – #203
    Ravenswood – #246
    Blaine – #800 (solid chance, right? 😛 )

    We’ll see. I don’t expect to move up on most of these lists due to them being near capacity, but I’m glad that we have 9 that we’re under 50 on…and my fingers and toes and everything else are crossed for Thorp! Eeep!

  • 233. ALU  |  April 1, 2016 at 7:38 pm

    @229 the tiers are only used for entry grade level, so pk-3 at Drummond

  • 234. For Current Hawthorne Families  |  April 1, 2016 at 7:44 pm

    Anyone have an idea as to how many Hawthorne 3rd graders may have left the school this year (people do move…) or may be planning a move/leaving the school soon? Trying to get a feel as to how many 4th grade spots they may need to fill for next year.

    I realize that in many years people don’t often leave this school but I am wondering if with the real estate market picking up, if more families than usual may be leaving……


  • 235. interamerican mom  |  April 1, 2016 at 7:50 pm

    we are waitlisted number 4 at blaine general for k

    what are our chances to get in?

  • 236. Nwmom  |  April 1, 2016 at 7:51 pm

    HydeParkMom- thank you for the info.
    I believe we will decline the offer and have our fingers cross for another school

  • 237. 1stTimeAround60643  |  April 1, 2016 at 8:12 pm

    60643 Results for Kinder:

    Got an offer from Gillespie (funny thing my old grammar school).

    Waitlisted for Sutherland#2(general)

    All waitlisted for the following:

    Vanderpoel-tier 3-#27

    Any thoughts on Sutherland or Kipling?
    Thank you and good luck to all of you and our kiddos:)

  • 238. seeking DII advice  |  April 1, 2016 at 8:22 pm

    Offered 7th grade spot. Like what I read about the high school cross curricular curriculum but website seems lacking on info for middle school. Any Disney II parents of 7-12 or getting closer to middle school who can offer some insight and advice?

  • 239. rewing123  |  April 1, 2016 at 8:23 pm

    a few comments….

    1. anyone in the lincoln square/north center area have kids at skinner north? i’d love to hear about the commute. and if anyone is accepting this year in the area, i’d love to chat (I hear one common “problem” is not having kids in the neighborhood going to your school, making parties, playdates, etc. a hassle).

    2. we only got our SEES letter, no lottery. anyone else?

    3. i’ve seen a few people ask about hamilton. for what it’s worth, we are turning it down (accepting skinner north).

  • 240. Jen K  |  April 1, 2016 at 8:34 pm

    @238. You can email me at knox4260@att.net and I would be happy to answer questions!

  • 241. WestSideMama  |  April 1, 2016 at 8:38 pm

    What would you ladies do? We have an offer at Jackson, which is a good school, but I wasn’t that “wowed” on the tour. But we have some good numbers at a couple of other schools. Entering K.

    (We’re west of Pilsen/Little Italy area)

    Andrew Jackson Language Acad – Offered

    Tier 1 Waitlist:
    Newberry – 23
    Lasalle II – 50
    STEM – 69
    Galileo – 95
    Sheridan – 50
    Sabin – 18
    Franklin – 42
    Disney II – 103 (threw it in as a long shot)

    General WL:
    Drummond – 174
    Pulaski – 17
    Pritzker – 311
    Mitchell – 89
    Talcott – 23
    Suder – 16
    Columbus – 44
    Haines – 56
    Burr – 148
    National Teachers/NTA – 76

    We stand a good chance at Suder? Newberry? Will NTA move that much?
    Thanks all!!!

  • 242. 1MoreSouthSider  |  April 1, 2016 at 8:45 pm

    @194 NTA has 3 classes each K-3 (2 high achievers and 1 RGC) so wait list does move but you’ll have to wait a bit. I don’t think it even begins to move until summer when the proximity/neighborhood has had an opportunity to register.

  • 243. 2ndTimeAround  |  April 1, 2016 at 8:46 pm

    1st Grade (60618)
    Nothing but waitlist:
    Audubon #30
    Hamilton #65
    Prescott #23

    Anyone with prior experience with first grade entry think the numbers will work in our favor? Optimistic they are much improved from K waitlist a year ago, but also realize it’s a smaller pool for first…

  • 244. Sloopr  |  April 1, 2016 at 8:51 pm

    241, take your spot at Jackson! If something else comes up, you can always change. You probably have a fair shot at Suder. That said, ive known several families who left Suder, but nobody who has left Jackson. Also, tours don’t always give you the full picture.

  • 245. cat5  |  April 1, 2016 at 8:52 pm

    1stDayAtTheRodeo , I know Hamilton got to about 70 on the wait list last year for Kindergarten

  • 246. realchicagomama  |  April 1, 2016 at 8:55 pm

    @238. I have a 7th grader at Disney II now. You can email me at cpollicki at gmail dot com

  • 247. Alcottmom  |  April 1, 2016 at 9:00 pm

    @231 Parents did fundraise back in the day when CPS only had 1/2 day kindergarten. That hasn’t been the case for at least a few years now. We do fundraise for 1-2 kindergarten aides and do ask incoming kinder parents for a voluntary donation.

  • 248. EGP  |  April 1, 2016 at 9:00 pm

    My kids are wait listed in slots 8 and 9 at Peterson for 4th grade. Wondering if we have a chance.

  • 249. mm  |  April 1, 2016 at 9:04 pm

    #220-go to Thorp on Monday and speak with Principal Toledo, explain what happened and see what he can do.

  • 250. Bronzeville Mom  |  April 1, 2016 at 9:05 pm

    We’ve got the following offers and are trying to decide between the 2 schools:
    Any Galileo parents that could share their experience here?
    Any Murray parents that could share their experience here?

  • 251. MKK2015  |  April 1, 2016 at 9:08 pm

    We received an offer for Jackson Language Academy for Kindergarten. We live up near Lincoln Square, so this would be a commute for us. Does anyone know much about the school or the parent community? Or what other neighborhoods in the city families are coming from to go there? A little worried about my son not having friends from school close to our home.

  • 252. Dee  |  April 1, 2016 at 9:11 pm

    We got…
    offers from columbus, hamilton, lasalle2, skinner north classical

    Disney tier 3 197
    disney 2 proximity 45
    Farnsworth 22
    goethe 44
    Newberry 47
    Solomon 40
    thorp oa 9
    stone 69
    Alcott 126
    wildwood 19

    Most likely taking skinner north

  • 253. Dee  |  April 1, 2016 at 9:12 pm

    We are Kindergarten!

  • 254. XTimesACharms  |  April 1, 2016 at 9:16 pm

    Any Alcott Sibling 2nd grade?

    Child 1
    2nd grade


    Wait list
    Alcott Sibling 1
    Hefferan 2
    Solomon general 6
    Thorp, O general 17
    Oriole Park general 25
    Audubon general 27
    Norwood Park general 30
    Sheridan 50
    Stone general 55
    Beaubien 67

    Child 2
    4th grade


    Wait list
    Solomon general 1
    Sheridan general 2
    Oriole Park general 7
    Drummond general 12
    Stone general 21
    Jackson, A general 24
    Norwood Park general 26
    Audubon general 34
    Edgebrook general 39
    Beaubien general 46
    Hawthorne general 47

    Child 3
    6th grade

    Inter American

    Wait list
    Hefferan general 2
    Solomon general 4
    Oriole Park general 10
    Edgebrook general 14
    Norwood Park general 17
    Sheridan general 18
    Blaine general 25
    Drummond general 31
    Coonley general 37
    Stone general 38
    Beaubien general 46
    Thorp O general 66

    Child 4
    Wait list
    Mayer tier 2…… 41
    Suder tier 2…… 47
    Drummond tier 2… 57

    What are my chances?

  • 255. WestSideMama  |  April 1, 2016 at 9:17 pm

    @244. Sloopr – Thank you for your insight! That’s interesting. Maybe I wrote Jackson off too soon. I have a kid with sensory processing issues, so I’m scoping out the sense of community in addition to academics.

    Do you know why those families left Suder? It seemed so nice and cheerful.

  • 256. Jajo  |  April 1, 2016 at 9:19 pm

    Pk3 twin boys

    Drummond wl tier 3 – #129 and 130
    Mayer wl tier 3 – 99 and 100
    Suder wl tier 3 – 2 and 3

  • 257. LP  |  April 1, 2016 at 9:19 pm

    LaSalle waitlisters: Last year, we were waitlisted in the low 30s and did get an offer… in the second half of September. We turned it down so I can’t tell you about the school.

  • 258. SoStressed  |  April 1, 2016 at 9:19 pm

    Received an offer for Newberry. My first choice is NTA. We are currently 97 on the general waitlist for NTA. Do you think my chances are good? And if you had to pick between the two which one would you take? Any Newberry parents that can offer insight on Newberry?

  • 259. oliver  |  April 1, 2016 at 9:21 pm

    This is my first year doing this so Im not really sure how this all plays out.

    My child is #5 on Norwood Park -general

    What does this mean?
    Is there any chance of getting selected?


  • 260. Xx  |  April 1, 2016 at 9:29 pm

    Blaine 335
    Beaubien 56
    Coonley 527
    Hamilton 196
    Pritzker 84
    Ravenswood 359
    Agassiz 180
    Alcott 424
    Audubon 22

    Tier 4:
    Disney II 47
    Hawthorne 174
    LaSalle 443
    LaSalle II 67
    Newberry 79
    Stone 104

    Applied for kinder but got scared about how getting a CPS offer and went a different route so we won’t be accepting if we get in anywhere. But if we do I will post so you all can track movement. Thanks for all the help we’ve gotten from other parents on this roller coaster and fingers crossed for everyone.

  • 261. ALU  |  April 1, 2016 at 9:36 pm

    Mayer parents…do we have a chance at prek-4 with a WL #18?


  • 262. Erica Tesla (@etesla)  |  April 1, 2016 at 9:36 pm

    Back for second round.

    I find it pretty plausible that we’ll wind up with an offer from Boone for my guy going into kindergarten. It’s not a slam dunk to take the spot, though: our neighborhood school, G. Armstrong, is right on my husband’s walk to the train, school starts about the right time for him to walk kiddo to school, the international focus is cool, and obviously since neighborhood school our 3yo would be guaranteed a spot, too. I understand it’s a decent school, but I honestly haven’t been able to learn much. When I called about taking a tour, they acted like that’s not a thing? And I’ve never heard any parents talk about it. So: calling G. Armstrong parents – how’s the school? What do you love? What don’t you?

    Reasons to like Boone: Arts focus, later start, smaller school size (800 vs Armstrong’s 1500), smaller class size (by a little)… Boone parents, am I missing anything?

    Meanwhile, my 3yo is waitlisted for Drummond (#100) and Mayer (#120) for preschool, which I don’t expect gives us a plausible chance. Does anybody know much about the preschool programs around Rogers Park/West Ridge? Happy to take aspects of this conversation elsewhere, my username is my Twitter/Facebook/everything else handle as well.

  • 263. Tess  |  April 1, 2016 at 9:47 pm

    We received our daughter’s acceptance letter to Edison RGC. today( hope it is not an April Fools’ day prank:) )
    She tested for kindergarten and was accepted with a score of 150. We are in Tier 2 and on cloud 9 !
    Best of luck to everyone – big and little!

  • 264. LP  |  April 1, 2016 at 9:52 pm

    @254 3 kids in Lasalle you just won the Chicago lottery. With your pre-K kid, you just will have to bide your time 1 year and next year with the sibling policy you will have 4 kids at LaSalle, save $60K t $80K each of the next several years and be very, very, lucky.

  • 265. NWside  |  April 1, 2016 at 10:17 pm

    @259, in the past, the list for Norwood has moved much higher than that — I would say you will almost definitely get an offer in the next month or two. Good luck!

  • 266. Gigi  |  April 1, 2016 at 10:26 pm

    Tier 3
    Drummond 57
    Mayer 69
    Suder 21

    Do I have a slight chance with Suder?

  • 267. Roopal  |  April 1, 2016 at 10:33 pm

    Looking for advice on chances for kindergarten. Do we have a chance Wait listed everywhere.
    Some low numbers:
    Oriole park 22 (general)
    Edgebrook 19 (general)
    Hawthorne 39 (tier 4)
    Wildwood 50( general)
    Galileo 28 (tier 4)

    How does the wait list work for neighborhood schools? Is there any movement?

  • 268. Lisajo  |  April 1, 2016 at 10:34 pm

    We were offered spots at Hamilton, Prescott and Goethe. What do you think is the best choice? I thought my choice was going to be made for my. Never thought we’d get three offers. Thanks for your help!

  • 269. Maria  |  April 1, 2016 at 10:55 pm

    Got all waitlisted this year, again.

    STEM 1
    Galileo 80
    Newberry 93
    Disney II 100
    Lasalle 159
    A Jackson 290

    Any STEM parents out there that I can talk to?

  • 270. El desan  |  April 1, 2016 at 10:55 pm

    My son got offers for Disney and Frazier for kindergarten. Is anyone familiar with these schools

  • 271. 2inarow  |  April 1, 2016 at 11:18 pm

    @258, we have our first child at Newberry, currently K. He was enrolled in NTA RGC until we got the offer for Newberry and what swayed us was sibling preference (younger brother entering K this year and baby sister), proximity, and eligibility for bussing. We naively were hoping to keep boys in same school.

    In retrospect, we wish we had stuck with NTA RGC. We toured NTA and really liked what we saw (except for the metal detectors, which threw us off). We did not tour the neighborhood class but my understanding is they both have the same specials. Newberry is a respected school and many parents I have met are happy with it. My son also loves school and has made several friends. The reason why we somewhat regret our decision is we have found our child’s K teacher to be somewhat disorganized and this has been a bit frustrating. I am not sure if this is teacher-specific and since this was our first CPS experience, it’s hard to know if we are just being picky or unreasonable regarding what the teacher can do, especially given the ridiculously large class sizes. In addition, our K teacher is quite warm in person, I just find her to be a well-meaning but ineffective communicator despite her sending emails on a weekly basis.

    Newberry does not have language but does have a math and science focus and follows the same math curriculum as the U of Chicago Lab school.

    In any case, choosing Newberry does not close you off to receiving offers from other magnet or neighborhood schools, so you have time.

    kid 1 – entering 1st grade
    Currently at Newberry, offered Bell RGC (Tier 4, RGC 131) – not sure if will take or hope he gets a later round offer for NTA RGC which is on the way to work or perhaps stay at Newberry. We will take the Bell tour and see.

    Last year, we received three calls after he initially received no offers for kindergarten: NTA RGC in mid-June (RGC score 131), Sheridan the next week (Tier 4 #6), then Newberry in late July (proximity #54). We loved Sheridan when we toured and would have chosen this but there was no consistent organized after-school care program.
    Hawthorne was proximity #34, Lasalle proximity #55, and some other schools with much lower numbers. We did not get called.

    kid 2 – entering K
    Offered Lasalle and we think we will be accepting rather than placing him in Newberry with his brother.

  • 272. MamaBlue  |  April 1, 2016 at 11:29 pm

    XTimesACharms…..I don’t mean to pry, but I see that you applied to mostly north side schools, and also to Hefferan, which is on the west side. Maybe you live west? While Hefferan gets a good rating on Great Schools etc., I feel like I must caution you on the area. I have worked in that area on the west side for the past 13 years, and Hefferan is located in an immediate area that is riddled with open air drug markets, daily gang fights, consistent shootings and robberies etc. I have worked directly with the school administrators and staff, and they are constantly worried about the safety of their students. 95% of the students are bright, wonderful kids, but even getting to and from school is so dangerous. These activities DO happen during school hours. The teachers complain because they kids are distracted by the drug dealers yelling outside the windows all day long. I am certainly not trying to discourage anyone from putting their child into a great school, but that area is not “up and coming” at the time. There are many wonderful, hard working families that live there, but there are also many gang members and drug dealers on the streets, that the regular folks just trying to live their lives are almost held captive in their homes. I know this sounds like a very unsolicited, harsh opinion, but as I said I have a lot of experience in that area. If you do choose to send your kiddos there, PLEASE be safe. I hope this doesn’t offend anyone, but when it comes to our kids, I would want to know. If you’d like to chat about it, drop me your email.

  • 273. Obliviousmom  |  April 1, 2016 at 11:39 pm


  • 274. XTimesACharms  |  April 1, 2016 at 11:39 pm

    @264 thank you. Personal opinions Alcott or Lasalle. Travel is not a concern because they both are the same miles in distance from us

  • 275. XTimesACharms  |  April 1, 2016 at 11:48 pm

    @272 MamaBlue Thank you very much. I will be only considering Alcott and Lasalle. Alcott I have a 5th grader there now an offer for my 3rd grade and number 1 on the Sibling wait list for my 1st grader and Lasalle all 3kids got an offer.

  • 276. Obliviousmom  |  April 1, 2016 at 11:59 pm

    My son is wait listed for the following schools:

    Stem #6
    A Jackson #53
    Sheridan #74

    Tier 2

    What are our chances for Stem or even the other schools?

  • 277. Truewish123  |  April 2, 2016 at 12:11 am


  • 278. Mj09  |  April 2, 2016 at 3:31 am

    Any chance of getting into Jackson
    waitlist general #28

  • 279. Newbie  |  April 2, 2016 at 5:01 am

    If we get off a waitlist, how will they notify us? Email? Snail mail? I don’t remember giving my phone number when I registered for my PIN (for PreK 3) so just don’t want to miss it if we do get a spot!

  • 280. nadja2  |  April 2, 2016 at 5:53 am

    @bronzeville mom…I ama parent to kindergarten twins at Galileo. I really like the school. Since I have twins I get to experience two of the kindergarten teachers and they are both great. They have plenty of resources and do extra activities like Literacy night. Depending where you live you may be eligible for bussing. Sheridan park is next door so if you need after school care the students are walked next door. I send mine there and the price is very affordable, but it fills up quick.

    They do give homework Monday-Thursday. Since it is a math and science academy there is a wonderful science lab and teacher for the primary grades. Even the kindergarteners have to participate in the annual science fair. At first, I thought it would be too much but it is really fun and my twins are excited.

    Lastly, Galileo offers a comprehensive gifted program. I hadn’t heard of it initially when I enrolled my kids. Basically it’s an in house gifted program and with your consent your child will be tested around this time next year. If accepted your child will be placed in an accelerated cohort for 1st grade and continue in this cohort.

    I hope this helps.

  • 281. JMOChicago  |  April 2, 2016 at 6:07 am

    CPSuccess Tumblr gives you a look into many schools that you may be unfamiliar with… http://cpsuccess.tumblr.com/

  • 282. Mj09  |  April 2, 2016 at 6:36 am

    Letter came yesterday trying to get my son in Andrew Jackson
    For 2nd grade
    General waiting list #28
    I really want this school does anyone think We have a good chance of acceptance off waiting list.

  • 283. llmm  |  April 2, 2016 at 6:44 am

    Tier 3
    Offered: Disney 2 (will accept)
    Low wait list: McPherson and Prescott

    Any Disney 2 parents know if there is a special tour/session for accepted parents? I saw a tour on their website saying 9am tour on Monday (April 4th) and I put it in my calendar.

  • 284. AnotherCPSParent  |  April 2, 2016 at 6:53 am


    Can anyone comment on experience with Inter-American, Murphy, and Prescott? These appear to be very different schools.


    Wait list:
    Prescott – #2, general
    Solomon – #52, general
    Dummond – #56, general
    Thorp, O – #66, general
    Ravenswood – #70
    Everything else >100

  • 285. Amber  |  April 2, 2016 at 6:55 am

    Dies anyone have information on Ogden International High Scool’s MYP. I know of a couple neighborhood kids to attend for High School, but not Middle School. Any info will be appreciated.

    Thanks in advance and congratulations to all!

  • 286. Laura  |  April 2, 2016 at 6:56 am

    I got waitlisted on top choices. Hamilton 47 (General) and Franklin 29 (Tier 3). What are my chances? Also am on at Lasalle II at 14 (Tier 3) but know very little about the school.

    P.S. was offered Disney and will turn down as we would probably stay at current school if nothing else pans out

  • 287. Shouldimovetosuburbs?  |  April 2, 2016 at 7:00 am

    I have a little child at Ogden, will probably not send to middle school because I don’t like they go with the high school kids. If that doesn’t bother you, it’s a good school.

  • 288. Jen K  |  April 2, 2016 at 7:14 am

    @283 the D2 tour on Monday is for previously scheduled PreK families. Because letters went out late, we’ve rescheduled the accepted K family tour to Thursday the 7th at 9. Call the office Monday to get on the list. As always, it is for adults only. For anyone with a Kindergarten wait list number up to 5, you are also eligible to take the tour.

  • 289. Jen  |  April 2, 2016 at 7:36 am

    Can any Thorp O. parents share their experiences? I haven’t heard much about the school except the principal is supposed to be great. Does their wait list move much? We are tier 4 wait listed #14, not sure whether to be hopeful or not. Do they offer an open house in the spring? Thanks to everyone for all the comments and input.

  • 290. Selena King  |  April 2, 2016 at 7:47 am

    I really would like kershaw we are tier 4 and #1 is that likely?

  • 291. SoStressed  |  April 2, 2016 at 8:01 am

    @2inarow thanks so much for your insight. This process is so stressful.

  • 292. CPS will love us  |  April 2, 2016 at 8:15 am

    Tier 3 – K
    Offered Peirce

    Lowest waitlist #s:
    Disney 31-prox
    Greeley 1
    Agassiz 36
    Jahn 37

    Any thoughts on comparing these schools? We live closest to Disney for now but although I work in a high tech industry, i’m not a fan of so much technology so early.

    Really looking for a sense of community & a school where we can make a difference, so maybe Agassiz? I hear the wait list moved into the hundreds last year? Why aren’t more parents interested?

    Thanks for your opinions!

  • 293. cpswonderland  |  April 2, 2016 at 8:22 am

    Offered Lasalle for 2nd grader who’s currently in Mark Sheridan. Is there any way I could check 2nd/3rd grade webpages to compare academics between the schools?

  • 294. Shouldimovetosuburbs?  |  April 2, 2016 at 8:26 am

    We hated Agassiz. I don’t understand what you mean by making a difference but Agassiz is a fallback school. If you get nothing better, you go there. Personally, I thought the principal was VERY unethical but others like her. I don’t know why.

  • 295. gamutgal68  |  April 2, 2016 at 8:27 am

    @teachermom, @mom60641, @1stday@therodeo

    We too were offered a spot at Brentano and will take advantage of one of the tours being offered next week. Are any of you planning on being on one of the tours as well? It would be nice to meet some other prospective families!

    We are excited by what we saw on our initial tour. Of course I would LOVE to hear more thoughts/opinions/insight on Brentano. Any current Brentano families out there? Any prospective Brentano families with thoughts? Thanks in advance!

  • 296. llmm  |  April 2, 2016 at 8:30 am

    Thank you Jen K!

  • 297. teachermom  |  April 2, 2016 at 8:50 am

    @1stDayAtTheRodeo, you should tour Brentano. Their K teachers are great, and there is a 2nd grade classroom that looks like a Montessori room. The principal is truly amazing, and his son will be in K next year, too. Now that we’re in, I don’t mind sharing our hidden gem. 🙂

  • 298. Bronzeville Mom  |  April 2, 2016 at 8:51 am

    Thank you @nadja2–that is very helpful, especially since you have experience with both K teachers! What is the drop-off/pick-up set-up for K students-do you drop them outside, or park and walk in?

    We also have boys at Skinner West, and my older son thinks some Galileo students bus to Skinner West for after-school. Any chance you’ve heard of such a thing?

    I’m planning to call Monday morning and find out if it’s possible to tour the school next week. Thanks again for your input!

  • 299. teachermom  |  April 2, 2016 at 8:54 am

    @gamutgal68, Brentano will be a scool everyone is talking about on a few years. We have been at PreK there for two years. We actually accepted in Inter-American offer this year and transferred back after a month. We LOVED our preK teacher, and i was happy with both K teachers when I toured. The new principal, Seth Lavin, makes things happen.

    Another thing, and this is important to me as the mom of a brown boy and a CPS hs teacher, there is no visible gang presence in the upper grades. I’ve visited other up-and-coming schools where this concerned me, and it’s not an issue at Brentano.

  • 300. Amber  |  April 2, 2016 at 9:04 am

    Thanks Shouldimovetosuburbs…..that’s my concern. We’ll attend the tour and see what comes of it.

  • 301. Lisajo  |  April 2, 2016 at 9:21 am

    Prescott, Hamilton & Goethe offers. What would be your 1st choice of the 3. Please help as I’m so overwhelmed! Thank you.

  • 302. Lisajo  |  April 2, 2016 at 9:21 am

    Prescott, Hamilton. What would be your 1st choice of the 3. Please help as I’m so overwhelmed! Thank you.

  • 303. LSmom  |  April 2, 2016 at 9:24 am

    @Lisajo, of those three I’d pick Hamilton as long as the hours/commute work for your family. It has a great principal and the families there seem especially happy.

  • 304. 2inarow  |  April 2, 2016 at 9:29 am

    @SoStressed, agreed – the process is very stressful. I should throw in that a CPS teacher I know has two children in older grades at Newberry and told me their family has been consistently pleased with the education. So I think it’s likely that our experience is teacher-specific and again, my main issue is with her communication and organization, not with whether our son has actually learned. Best of luck.

  • 305. Thinking..  |  April 2, 2016 at 9:37 am

  • 306. KMAMA16  |  April 2, 2016 at 9:40 am

    Would anyone have any insight about chances for Stone Wait List #25 in the Proximity Lottery? Or feelings about Stone in General? Thank you so much.

  • 307. Lucky  |  April 2, 2016 at 9:50 am

    Disney II sibling offer for K. Seeing it on paper if a real relief.

    Tess: The RGC test is an IQ test. I do not know if you test prepped but if you did not then your kid is remarkable. 150 is almost one in 3,000 people. MIT or Cal Tech engineering level smart. You got them in the right spot.

  • 308. NewberryMom  |  April 2, 2016 at 9:50 am

    @120Julia and @258SoStressed

    Congratulations on getting accepted to Newberry! I am a mom at Newberry and love the school. Our family has had a really great experience there. I have a 7th grader who has been at the school since K and a 2nd grader. I am saddened to hear that @271 didn’t have a good experience with a K teacher. It is true that class sizes in CPS are ridiculously large – Newberry is no exception. This year the school worked to find additional funding to add a teacher’s aide to each K classroom to help support the 28 kids per class. Many CPS schools don’t have this luxury.

    The school has a math and science focus which has been great for my kids. The math teachers are ridiculously good. There are several who are the “masters” at UofC Everyday Math Program who work with the University to teach other CPS teachers the curriculum. While they don’t offer a language, they do have music, art and drama to compliment the math and science focus. They also have been ramping up the technology focus in the school. Since I have been there, they have added a dedicated computer lab and smartboards in every classroom- in addition all 6th, 7th, and 8th graders have their own Cromebooks.

    The Principal has been at the school 14+ years – 8 as Assistant Principal and the last 6 as Principal. So there is great stability in leadership. All three of her kids attended Newberry with her youngest graduating this year. (So she has been both a parent and Principal which is a good perspective to have.) I have always felt that she is super responsive to any parents concerns about issues at the school. (Listening to friends who have Principal drama at their CPS schools make me feel even more fortunate to have my kids at Newberry as I think leadership is one of the most important things to making a good school work.)

    I would encourage you to take the tour – I think you will be impressed with what you see happening the classrooms and get a good sense of the school.

  • 309. Lucky  |  April 2, 2016 at 9:53 am

    llmm: Someone above mentioned there is a tour next week. I am skipping it.

    Welcome aboard. The only drawback is lack of a language program, but the Feds say gotta have gym…

  • 310. Shouldimovetosuburbs?  |  April 2, 2016 at 9:56 am


  • 311. SoStressed  |  April 2, 2016 at 9:56 am

    @2inarow I have another question. Does the K-teacher utilize differentiated instruction?

  • 312. teachermom  |  April 2, 2016 at 9:59 am

    @Vanessa, don’t get your hopes up for Drummond. We were Tier 1 single digits two years ago and learned all their lists basically don’t move.

  • 313. JKS  |  April 2, 2016 at 10:01 am

    @213 re: Oriole Park waitlist. This is the first year that they have filled non-boundary seats because they were overcrowded for a long time. They did an addition a year ago so now they have expanded their boundaries AND take kids from out of the neighborhood. My niece graduated from 8th and now is in HS. We are #97 for OP so I doubt we will get in but maybe with your lower number?

  • 314. JKS  |  April 2, 2016 at 10:03 am

    Also, any thoughts on movement for Tier 4 Franklin #11 or Hawthorne #18?

    Thanks so much.

  • 315. Erica  |  April 2, 2016 at 10:05 am

    We received an offer for our daughter for K at Hawthorne and she currently attends Pre-K at InterAmerican. Any Hawthorne parents out there to comment? We love the idea of having a bilingual child but Hawthorne seems like we won the lottery since we’re not in proximity nor does she have a sibling which attends the school. Any feedback is appreciated! Thank you!

  • 316. teachermom  |  April 2, 2016 at 10:11 am

    Future Brentano families, we have an active Facebook group for the preK parents and will be creating a Class of 2025 group, so please keep an eye out and join us.

  • 317. Ivasdad  |  April 2, 2016 at 10:41 am

    @315 Erica – What are your numbers for other schools, please?

  • 318. Ivasdad  |  April 2, 2016 at 10:44 am

    @302 Lisajo – totally agreed with #303 LSmom – go tour all 3 schools and make priorities list (ex:commute 5pts; after school 4pts…etc) add scores and rank.

  • 319. @newberrybobcat  |  April 2, 2016 at 10:44 am

    @120Julia and @258SoStressed

    I am a Newberry parent and have found that my daughter thrives at the school. She is now a second grader. She came out of Kindergarten able to read chapter books and with really great achievement and growth scores. In addition, my daughter has loved all of her teachers and looks forward to going to school every day.

    Each teacher has their own style, but one thing that I have found in common with Newberry teachers is their responsiveness to the parents. Whenever I email the teachers or administrators I receive a response back very quickly (often in less than an hour), even in the evenings.

    The curriculum has been rigorous but I look at the growth and I would find it hard to say many negative things about any of the teachers. The school is fortunate to have a number of resources and classes that many schools in CPS cannot afford. They have lots of technology including smartboards in every classroom and a computer lab. My daughter has also really enjoyed the drama and music programs.

    Navigating CPS can be difficult, but there are some really great schools. I feel fortunate to be a part of the Newberry community and I think you should take a tour and see for yourself.

  • 320. Mj09  |  April 2, 2016 at 10:55 am

    Are their any Andrew Jackson parents or just someone who knows about the school can tell how likely to get in from general waiting list number 28.

  • 321. realchicagomama  |  April 2, 2016 at 11:00 am

    @283: Also check out this for a way to be connected to other D2 families: http://goo.gl/forms/PXDkMvRbvY

  • 322. bb1234  |  April 2, 2016 at 11:00 am

    @KMAMA16- Two years ago, we were around #17 on the kindergarten waitlist for Stone and our daughter was offered a seat in late April/early May. I think you have a good chance! She has been very happy there. The arts are amazing. Solid teachers. Not an absurd amount of busy work. I am happy to answer any specific questions for you! Best of luck!

  • 323. KMAMA16  |  April 2, 2016 at 11:03 am

    @bb1234 – Thank you so much, so appreciate the feedback!

  • 324. AK  |  April 2, 2016 at 11:05 am

    Anyone have any idea how far Disney goes down their waitlists? We’re #72…seems like a long shot, but thought I would ask anyway…..

  • 325. LaSalle?  |  April 2, 2016 at 11:07 am

    My incoming 4th grader was offered a spot at LaSalle. She is currently at a SEES, but we would consider moving to LaSalle as we’ve heard such great things. Our incoming K child is high on the waitlist at LaSalle and everywhere else! Is there any chance that a sibling spot would be realistic for 1st grade (2017), or is that just a ridiculous gamble??

  • 326. Eleanor  |  April 2, 2016 at 11:08 am

    My daughter got accepted at Brentano for Kindergarten, which I’m very pleased about, and waitlisted at Goethe, number 51. Does anyone have any idea whether/how much the list moves at Goethe? And anyone want to weigh in whether Goethe or Brentano is the better choice? I know Goethe has better performance statistics for literacy and numeracy, but I’m most interested in the social atmosphere for my daughter — nurturing, loving, responsive, etc.

  • 327. ncwmolden  |  April 2, 2016 at 11:10 am

    Thanks so much for the perspectives on Newberry. Do your kids take the bus? With the consolidations, our son has a 7:15 bus pick up for an 8:30 start at Skinner North. It’s hard to imagine the sleep deprivation of a 7:30 start with the bus… I’m thinking we’re going to have to move down to LP or old town. ..

  • 328. NWside  |  April 2, 2016 at 11:23 am

    @289 Re: Thorp. We have a second grader at Thorp and love the school. It’s really popular for families who live close by so I’m not sure if you’ll get an offer with #14 proximity. I would say maybe though, but I’m guessing not until summer. Good luck!

    There a lot of families near the school, so it feels pretty much like a neighborhood school, but has all the advantages of a magnet (class size is limited to 29, etc). They have great after school programs, esp starting in 5th grade (symphony, choir, many sports for both girls and boys — those are things my kid is interested in but other options too). Starting in 1st grade they have a gifted class (they notify you at the end of K, I think it’s based on lots of factors including test scores, grades and so on). Starting next year the after care will be on site — currently kids are bused to Portage Park. Not sure which is better, some people prefer the convenience of on-site.

    But basically we like it because it’s a really nice community of families, and the teachers have been great. Really outgoing and friendly principal. Plus, if you have younger kids they’ll get in automatically. My kid loves going to school.

  • 329. Nwmom  |  April 2, 2016 at 11:41 am

    As for Goethe, I know the principal for years. I actually attend Goethe and graduated in 2006. The principal has always been amazing and very caring. Till this day she remembers me and always please to hear of my achievements

  • 330. 2inarow  |  April 2, 2016 at 11:45 am

    @SoStressed, yes, she has offered some differentiation at least on the homework end. I do not know what actually happens in the cIassroom. I know that there are different group tables depending on reading levels based on what my son tells me. I do not know if there is any differentiation in the classroom regarding math. I also know that starting in the second half of the year, she gave slightly different homework packets I think mainly based on reading levels – I believe there may have been 4 different packets, so that seems like a great effort on her part given our classroom size of 31 – I think it’s supposed to be 28-30 so probably an anomaly our year. She does really push reading but my kid already knew how to read so I did not feel this was something he really gained in class. What he does need help with is writing and she pushes that as well. I really appreciate the perspective of the other parents with older children and so in the end, we may stick it out. I am grateful to even have options and if I didn’t have other options, would not hesitate regarding keeping him there. Newberry is very diverse, which in my opinion is a plus. One other thing I forgot to mention that initially helped us choose Newberry is we were concerned about how a school would respond to bullying and I was assured that this has not been a problem and that the asst principal is very responsive to any hint of that. There does seem to be a nice community at Newberry – but because I work a lot, I have not really been able to experience this.

    Our K teacher does email parents and she has answered most of my emails but I sometimes don’t understand her answers, which is part of the frustration. It is likely my fault for not pressing, but I was trying to not be the parent who pesters when the teacher is already so busy and has already attempted to answer. Since this was our first experience, did not realize emailing was perhaps not typical in CPS and that I was lucky in this regard.

    If you would like to talk in person, post email or phone, and I would be happy to answer further questions.

    I also agree that a tour is essential so you can decide on your own.

  • 331. @newberrybobcat  |  April 2, 2016 at 11:47 am


    My daughter does not take the bus to Newberry. I know that one of the reasons the school starts so early is because traffic is so much better that the kids on the bus can get to school quicker. I would suggest talking with the principal to get a better idea of when your bus pick up might be.

    While we do take the bus we still get our daughter up around 6:20 to get dressed and have breakfast (even though the school provides breakfast and lunch every day). We have adjusted the sleep schedule to ensure she got enough sleep which means she is asleep sometime between 8-8:30. I agree it is early but it is manageable.

  • 332. 3isacharm  |  April 2, 2016 at 12:01 pm

    Any thoughts on Owen Scholastic magnet?

  • 333. James Gray  |  April 2, 2016 at 12:04 pm

    @eleanor Both are great choices.

    I have had the pleasure of mentoring Seth Lavin, the new principal at Brentano this year. I genuinely believe this school will be the next ‘golden ticket’ in CPS in a few years for neighborhood and non-neighborhood families.

  • 334. teachermom  |  April 2, 2016 at 12:06 pm

    @Shouldimovetosuburbs? and anyone else who cares, the linked story happened last year when Brentano’s principal retired in October, and we had an interim the rest of the year. The situation was handled perfectly and only increased my faith in the school. I have a daughter and have no hesitation about sending her to Brentano when she is ready.

    Also, that can happen anywhere. A teacher at my suburban alma matre, NNHS, is currently in jail for it. It’s not about what happened that I care about. It’s how it was dealt with.

    But, if you want to move to the suburbs, go for it.

  • 335. teachermom  |  April 2, 2016 at 12:19 pm

    @anothercpsparent, our experience at Inter-American was so-so. The school has wonderful resouces, a great community of families from all over the city, and (of course) the dual-language program. The teachers are fine. Not spectacular, but we didn’t have any complaints.

    The admin, though, are pretty awful. I heard from parents who had been there a while that the climate has really gone downhill in the few years that the current principal has been at helm. Their two afternoon preK classes were both severely under-enrolled last year. This is a school that’s going downhill due to miserable leadership. On top of it, the commute was miserable especially with the Wrigley construction going on. We left after a month. Unless dual language is very important to you, I’d pass.

  • 336. teachermom  |  April 2, 2016 at 12:21 pm

    @eleanor, I am a Brentano parent, and I love our school, but I have also heard nothing but good things about Goethe. I’m sure either would be a great choice.

  • 337. JMOChicago  |  April 2, 2016 at 12:44 pm

    Hi. CPS parent and data wonk here. Already have my kids tucked away in our school of choice, but was scanning the thread here for a friend who is making sense of their offers this year.

    This sentence, “I know Goethe has better performance statistics for literacy and numeracy, but I’m most interested in the social atmosphere for my daughter — nurturing, loving, responsive, etc.”

    Let’s talk a second about how to interpret data for a school if that is the only information you have for a school at the moment.

    They use NWEA Map for the Achievement and Growth measures, not PARCC, and MAP is a definitely better test for showing that than PARCC. So, that is an improvement over years past.

    First, SEES data can be misleading if you are not also looking at the curriculum and culture of the school. SEES kids already test high….that is how they get admitted. So their test data is going to trend high unless the school is actually doing a terrible job. I look at SEES growth and 5 Essentials to consider how they are doing. (However, even that can be misleading in some grades b/c growth can also plateau at some developmental ages.

    The other thing that makes schools difficult to assess is the affect that family INCOME has on the test scores of a school. We call this “well resourced at home” vs. “less resourced at home.” You can have two kids in the same school, same age, same IQ/intelligence. One has a supportive family with stable and positive relationships; born in US to English-speaking parents who also have advanced degrees and understand the importance of early reading; few childhood stressors; good nutrition; lots of books/blocks/learning toys/etc. available; parents work with the kids all of the time on early reading, letter recognition, counting, patter-seeking, etc.; parents who are attuned to looking for early developmental/learning problems and can access early intervention resources; and so on. The other is a recent immigrant whose parents did not have the benefit of higher education and do not speak English; are unaware of how to access early educational resources or interventions; the family is moving around the city seeking better/low-income housing so having to switch schools; kids are unfamiliar with the nuanced academic language and interpreting of instructions required to excel on a standardized test; etc. This is going to affect both kids test scores out of the gate and catching up (for the second child) will be HARD. So…look at the demographics of the school. If the school is majority low-income and still seeing really healthy academic GROWTH…it is likely that they are doing something really, really right.

    If you look at Brentano and Goethe data, they tell stories that are slightly different. Both are primarily low income schools with STRONG attainment. Brentano is started later in the improvement game, really moving up within the last few years when Seth Lavin took over as principal. The most recent (early) grades at Brentano are seeing strong growth AND attainment. Less so for kids who were there for a longer time. And then math growth drops off in 8th grade…could be related to less rigorous curriculum or teaching experience for that grade, could need more materials/support for that grade, etc. Could be that the MAP doesn’t test 8th grade math well, or the math curriculum doesn’t prepare kids for 8th grade MAP test. Hard to say when just looking at one year…I’d have to see more years. Another possibility is that Brentano 7th graders might be rocking the Academic Center admissions, which takes their highest performers out of the mix for 8th grade. Can’t tell from this data alone.

    Goethe has started out in the pole position…they have pretty strong track record historically. I’m really curious about that low 3rd grade reading growth score, though. HOWEVER, the attainment in 3rd is already pretty high…again, a question to ask a principal because there could be a couple of explanations for that which might pass muster.

    Both schools have good 5 Essentials scores, with Goethe edging out Brentano. Ignore the aggregate overview 5 Essentials scores, and dig deeper where you want to know more by going to the 5 Essentials website and looking at the answers to the questions that make up those categories. For example, if you look at Goethe and see a “Safety” score of “Neutral” vs. “Strong”…hang on a minute. Do the actual question answers suggest a Safety problem IN the school? Or on the way to/from school? Also, the 6-8 graders are answering that question…what are the specific circumstances of the current cohort of 6-8 graders? Are many of them from a tougher area of the neighborhood boundaries? All of this can make a big difference in the answers. (Answer: Looks like the area outside of the school is what pushes Goethe into their category.)

    Don’t rely on the Parent Survey results on the cps.edu pages for 5 Essentials. They are a year behind and haven’t been updated even though there is new data. Look at the three year trends for all of the data and see if you can find out if the school has undergone any large changes in leadership, attendance boundary changes, etc.


    THIS more than anything is why visits are essential and why parents HAVE to look beyond those 1,2,3 ratings. Plus, one school can be the best fit for your friend’s kid and make yours absolutely miserable.

    Best of luck out there….

  • 338. JMOChicago  |  April 2, 2016 at 12:46 pm

    Sorry, wrote this while feeding children lunch…ignore spelling, punctuation typos up there please.

  • 339. CPS teacher and soon-to-be parent  |  April 2, 2016 at 1:09 pm

    Just got our letters in the mail. My soon-to-be kindergarten son was offered spots at Stone and James Thorp. We’ll be accepting the spot at Stone since we live on the north side and since my sister teaches there and raves about it!

    RGC score was a 123. Still holding out hope that we’ll get an offer from Coonley since I’m a second grade teacher there and adore the school. We’re tier 3.

  • 340. Mom-of-2  |  April 2, 2016 at 1:31 pm

    Anyone have kids at Salazar? Can you comment on your experience?

    What are the chances of wait list #5 proximity for Hawthorne?

    This would be for Kindergarten.

    Also, do either of those schools have tours or open houses scheduled?

  • 341. Eleanor  |  April 2, 2016 at 1:33 pm

    Thanks, James Grey, teachermom, and JMOChicago!

  • 342. Near South Sider  |  April 2, 2016 at 1:53 pm


    We were number 50-something (Tier 2) last year for Disney and never got a call.

    @ 3isacharm

    A friend sends her kid to Owen and likes it. They have a “walking reading” program (maybe one for math, too), where advanced kids can walk to the next class up (a kindergartner would go to a 1st grade class for instruction, for example). It’s a solid school.

  • 343. gamutgal68  |  April 2, 2016 at 2:01 pm

    Thank you teachermom, for all of the insight into Brentano. It is so helpful to hear from someone with a child currently attending (and hearing your experience with a magnet school gives further perspective)!

    Thank you James Gray, for offering your opinion from another prospective. FYI- we love Hamilton as well, but Brentano is in our neighborhood (and we are waitlisted at Hamilton anyway- HA!).

    Elanor, we live in LS and toured Goethe as well. If Goethe was our only option, we feel it would be a fine choice. The principal seems great, the people I speak to that send their kids there seem happy. But overall, we feel Brentano is the better fit for our family and are very happy that we received an offer from Brentano vs. Goethe.

    JMOChicago Thank you for helping some of us better understand the data available to us.

    And lastly, shouldimovetothesuburbs?, I agree with teachermom. Unfortunately, these sorts of things can and do happen anywhere (even in the suburbs- gasp). What is important is how the school administration/families/community handle it. As teachermom explained, anything that occurred on school property happened before Seth Lavin became principal.

  • 344. El  |  April 2, 2016 at 2:03 pm

    My son got an offer for Disney and Frazier and is on waiting list 21 for Hawthorne. I want Hawthorne for him. I am very unsure to decline the offered spots though. I don’t even know which to use between Frazier or Disney. Could anyone possibly help me here?
    Should I decline? Do you think 21 on waiting list for Kindergarten is possible??
    Do you know anything about Disney or Frazier magnet school?

  • 345. SoStressed  |  April 2, 2016 at 2:05 pm

    @newberrybobcat & @2inarow you guys have been so helpful and amazing. It definitely sounds like Newberry is a great school and would be a good fit for our family. I am definitely going to the open house next week.

  • 346. cpsobsessed  |  April 2, 2016 at 2:08 pm

    @344- what Tier are you in for Hawthorne? if Tier 3 or 4, #21 is virtually impossible. Maybe if Tier 1 or 2 .are not geographically close to the school — that *might* make that list move more briskly, but traditionally Hawthorne is a school that is rarely turned down.

    You can accept Disney or Frazier and still be called for Hawthorne if they work down the list

  • 347. 3isacharm  |  April 2, 2016 at 2:18 pm

    Thanks so much! Will check it out. Were #2 on waitlist so will see.They look good on paper. Kinda a commute from Beverly

  • 348. SD123  |  April 2, 2016 at 2:18 pm

    My son has an offer from STEM and LaSalle for K.

    Anyone have insight on pros and cons of the two schools?

    We are wait listed for all our other picks in the 100s so not expecting calls.

    RGC score was 140 and no letter yet

  • 349. Bronzeville Mom  |  April 2, 2016 at 2:35 pm

    You can accept one of those spots and it won’t take you off the Hawthrne wait list. Accept one, and see if you get other calls later.

  • 350. HydeParkMom  |  April 2, 2016 at 2:58 pm

    @CPS will love us. We’re currently attending Agassiz! It’s a fabulous school with a great community and high parental envolvment. Principal truly cares. Agassiz was one of the school’s last year that changed their stop time and due to this, it detoured parents from enrolling. There are currently 2 Kinder classrooms with 28 students and 1 shared aid.

  • 351. parent  |  April 2, 2016 at 3:32 pm

    @Jen K
    Can you answer a few questions about Disney II? I had a hard time finding earliest drop off time for Kindergarten and info on whether there is before school care. Also, if the after-care is off-site, how does that work?
    Also do you apply again for grades 7-12?
    What is the class size for Kindergarten?
    I’m going to try to get on that tour for Thursday, but the wheels are spinning in the meantime.

  • 352. Jeff Park mom  |  April 2, 2016 at 3:32 pm

    Still no SEES letter for us (so frustrating!) and we just got our magnet/open enrollment letter today.

    Our waitlist #s (general) for first grade are:
    Oriole Park – 6
    Beaubien – 9
    Edgebrook – 26
    (others were high, probably no chance)

    Any feedback on how much the first grade lists move at any of these schools? Do we have a decent chance for the schools where we’re under 10 on the list? Any chance for Edgebrook? That would be our first choice unless we get a SE spot.

  • 353. MissingLetter  |  April 2, 2016 at 3:34 pm

    anyone in 60656 that hadn’t received their letter? My friend is waiting for results for inter-American PK.

  • 354. Jen  |  April 2, 2016 at 3:39 pm

    NWside, thank you so much for taking the time to post your perspective on Thorp. I really appreciate it. Will be keeping my fingers crossed for an eventual call.

  • 355. AK  |  April 2, 2016 at 3:48 pm

    @342 –Thanks for the tip. So, probably no shot at Disney. What about Stone? We are Proximity #45 for Stone. Any chance? #48 in the general for Peirce…

    I’m thinking we’ll do Catholic school for Kindergarten and re-evaluate for first grade. None of my numbers seem hopeful at all. =/

  • 356. Kt215  |  April 2, 2016 at 3:52 pm

    Does anyone know how far down the wait list vanderpoel has gone in the past

  • 357. 3isacharm  |  April 2, 2016 at 4:16 pm

    Vanderpoel is having a open house soon its on the web page. Yes list moves especially in higher grades.

  • 358. PsyMom  |  April 2, 2016 at 4:34 pm

    no offers anywhere, waitlisted #818 at Drummond!

    #30 (proximity) at Lasalle 2. Does anyone know if we might have a chance there?

  • 359. K10  |  April 2, 2016 at 4:39 pm

    Has anyone heard anything about Garvy?

  • 360. Verylucky  |  April 2, 2016 at 4:44 pm

    @337 I agree about looking at 5essentials for getting a look at school culture.

    I had my kids in a highly desired, high scoring magnet. The scores didn’t reflect that the principal was bullying and driving out teachers, that the kids were highly stressed, that the teachers did not trust each other, that many parents felt unwelcome, even in a fund raising capacity, that the physical needs of children went unmet. The 5 essentials told that story. I moved my children to a school with lower test scores, but according to 5essentials, much more functional atmosphere. I have no regrets.

    There is so much to consider in making these tough decisions. I wish you all well.

  • 361. KP  |  April 2, 2016 at 5:33 pm

    #355 AK: Peirce went through the first 100 last year so you have a really good chance

  • 362. CPS will love us  |  April 2, 2016 at 5:39 pm

    @HydeParkMom Thank you for your comments! Looks like Agassiz might have a tour the first Tuesday of April so I’ll check it out. We are 36 on the wait list so no guarantees.

  • 363. 5thgrademom  |  April 2, 2016 at 5:51 pm

    Got offered lasalle for 5th grader…any lasalle parents? I’m interested in class size , academics, etc…not much info on their website

  • 364. Mom with heartburn  |  April 2, 2016 at 6:20 pm

    Offered Disney & Decatur
    Will accept Decatur but really wanted SN (99math, 98 reading – should I decline Decatur and wait?)

    Waitlisted #40 Hawthorne – any chance at all?

  • 365. BigCityMom  |  April 2, 2016 at 6:26 pm

    I posted earlier, but just to update: We received offers from Disney I, Stone, and Alcott. We will be turning down the offer from Stone for sure and we’re 99% sure we’re going to turn down the offer from Disney. Just wanted to offer a little hope for those on the waitlist for those two schools.

  • 366. HydeParkMom  |  April 2, 2016 at 6:42 pm

    Absolutely! Good luck to you!

  • 367. realchicagomama  |  April 2, 2016 at 6:45 pm

    @parent I’m not JenK, but also have students at D2 and can answer your questions. Aftercare is on site (provided by the ymca). There is no before care. Most people use the Irving park YMCA which drops kids off via a short bus at 8:20. Earliest drop off time for Kedvale is 8 am.

    Class size is 25 students in K. 25-26 in other grades. Disney II is one school, two campuses, no reapplication for 7-12th.

  • 368. K10  |  April 2, 2016 at 6:59 pm

    Anyone looking at Edgebrook? We’re in the 20s on the WL – not sure of our chances… ?

  • 369. Tracey J  |  April 2, 2016 at 8:10 pm

    @196 Emily I emailed you about Kelloogg. @356 kt215 vet Vanderpool very carefully. I have a friend who pulled her kids out of this school.

  • 370. Southsidemom  |  April 2, 2016 at 8:20 pm

    @ Tracey j can you please share your thoughts on Kellogg or any other schools on the south side clissold? Or Owen? If you can ?

  • 371. 3isacharm  |  April 2, 2016 at 8:33 pm

    We have tried both.This is true many people have left Vanderpoel.Do to drop in rank from level 1 to 2+.And principle selection process.

  • 372. tpb182  |  April 2, 2016 at 8:55 pm


    #31 on the general wait list for Wildwood.
    Any chance????

  • 373. Tracey J  |  April 2, 2016 at 8:57 pm

    @370 Southsidemom. Scroll up on this thread and email 196 Emily who has a child at Kellogg. I don’t know anything about Clissold or Owen. Sorry I could not be much help. Do you have a child that is waitlisted at these schools. Are you a Beverly/Morgan Park resident?

  • 374. Southsidemom  |  April 2, 2016 at 9:14 pm

    @ Tracey j thanks for the response, I’ll check out 196- yes I’m beverly/mp area and in at clissold wait listed at vanderpoel and Owen but won’t consider vanderpoel with the comments from thread

  • 375. 3isacharm  |  April 2, 2016 at 9:26 pm

    We live in Beverly are neighborhood school is Barnard. My son attends Vanderpoel.He likes it. We tried Kellogg for 1st it wasn’t for him.Were waitlist for Sutherland 23&Clissold6&Owen2 Any feed back

  • 376. Tracey J  |  April 2, 2016 at 9:27 pm

    @southsidemom my daughter has a playmate that attends Owen. I can ask the mom. What is important to you? What grade will your child be in next school year? Also, check the CPS school profile page for Owen and Clissold. Simpy go to cps.edu and click on schools ——–> school profiles, and then type in the school name. Also, find the latest parent survey that parents get to respond to each school year. It would be located on the “download” page on each schools profile page on the CPS website. The survey is call My Voice/My School and is usually located a the very bottom of the download page. Hope this is helpful.

  • 377. Jen  |  April 2, 2016 at 9:30 pm


    I know someone whose child was WL #1 at Edgebrook but was never called. Don’t think it was for K though, but a grade or 2 up.

    I would also like to hear more about Garvy, if anyone has input. Thanks!

  • 378. Benita Jorge  |  April 2, 2016 at 9:30 pm

    I was saddened. I applied for both my girls one is entering 1st grade the other Kindergarten…my girls will not be attending the same school next fall….heartbroken….The only chance they have is for Edgebrook…or bust ….breakdown as folllows

    Offered Disney and O. Thorp
    Stone waitlist tier 3 #8
    Wildwood #329
    Edgebrook #22
    Lasalle wait list tier 3 81
    Prtizker wait list 174

    1st grader
    Stone Wailist 153
    Wildwood wait list 110
    Edgebrook wait list 17
    Disney wait list 165
    Prtizker wait list 127
    Lasalle wait list 66

    Luck was not on our side…

  • 379. 3isacharm  |  April 2, 2016 at 9:40 pm

    374 southsidemom Vanderpoel is looking like it will regain its level 1.As for selection process it will probably be determined in a few weeks. Fingers crossed it returns to its former reputation.

  • 380. southsidemom  |  April 2, 2016 at 9:47 pm

    @ Tracey J thanks again, wondering about Owens and whether the kids are challenged, the parents are involved, the school has enough resources, stuff that you cant find on the cps site.the area is safe inside and outside the school. thanks for any insight you can find

    @3isacharm – Ive read through thread and others that the principal situation is challenging and several people are leaving due to lack of structure and organization at vanderpoel, do you have any inside knowledge as to the climate there?

    I visited Clissold for the observation day (spend about 1 hour on campus observing a classroom- the principal was new and really nice and attentive, I can tell he will do great things with the school, the parents seem really involved. The class structure was a bit much for me, the k and 1st graders are in the same class with only one teacher and occasionally a volunteer aide. Some of the girls from Marist HS was there to help out maybe a project for their school. There was about 30 kids in a class, and i was trying to see how they separate the learning for k vs 1st grade, im assuming its in the homework assignments, bc the teacher was addressing all the kids at once while I was there. its Montesorri (but it was a bit chaotic for me) at one point she let the kids do independent learning and the kids were all over the place, i was trying to see how they learn but I’m not used to that philosophy so it could be just me, others may have a better explanation. My friends kids go there and some say it works others say it is not as challenging as they had hoped, and your kids have to be driven to learn, so I guess it just depends on who you talk to

    Hope this helps a little
    sorry for any misspellings

  • 381. Tracey J  |  April 2, 2016 at 9:51 pm

    @3isacharm why did you not send your son to Barnard? When you mentioned Kellogg was “not for him” what does that mean?

  • 382. parent  |  April 2, 2016 at 9:59 pm

    @378, If you send your kindergartener to Disney or Thorp, your other kid will get in next year. So you only have one year with them in different schools. Not sure where your current kid in K is, but couldn’t they just stay there for one year? Then they can be together next yr. (if I were you I’d pick which ever one is closer to your house. both schools are good)

  • 383. 3isacharm  |  April 2, 2016 at 10:04 pm

    Barnard has been transitioning as well it come up to 1 after being on probation.Kellogg was nice but did have the acdemic intense rigor. He did k at NKO in Hyde Park we loved but to far. And alot of the boys were disruptive in his class.His teacher left mid year but that worked out well.Her replacement really help him excel .

  • 384. Kt215  |  April 2, 2016 at 10:23 pm

    Thanks your not the first person to say this too
    Any body know about Kellogg we are about 10 or 11 on list

  • 385. 3isacharm  |  April 2, 2016 at 10:29 pm

    Tracey J thanks for the tips.Any insight on Owen would be appreciated. I want safety, acdemics,the arts,transportation,and a great teaching team sold to upper grades.And some diversity. I want it all lol.

  • 386. 3isacharm  |  April 2, 2016 at 10:40 pm

    We’re 35 for 1st and got a call 1 week after school started.

  • 387. Benita Jorge  |  April 2, 2016 at 10:56 pm

    #382 My current Kindergartener attends Triton College they do not offer anything past Kindergarten. I have applied to Rowe Elementary for both my girls their lottery not till April 12th. I can still have my little one stay at Triton But than we lose our slot for Thorp. So worst case scenerio She will go to Thorp and my first grader to Rowe if she gets in if she doesn’t than she is going to suffer at Locke for 1 year with 32 kids in one class….I know its just one year but….I am in school full time new to the Dunning Area…and no car…..next year is going to be hard on the CTA….with them both in 2 different schools, and me at Triton in River Grove and working part time…..crossing fingers…for my girls and Edgebrook or Rowe……and O. Thorp. I need more info on Thorp….Rowe offers after school for Kindergartners till 6 in the evening…Edgebrook has the YMCA till 6 pm but I am not sure about Thorp? Do they have after school for Kindergarten? Do they bus? Uniforms? Any info Please…….

  • 388. One and Only  |  April 2, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    We went through this process last year for kindergarten so I feel your pain. I’m going to post our numbers from last year to add more information to the obsessing ☺. We were initially wait listed everywhere, but ended up getting 8 (!) offers.

    Tier 3:
    Hawthorne 56 – no offerr
    OA Thorpe 35 – no offer
    Lasalle 122 – no offer
    Lasalle II 4 – offer in April
    Newberry 13 – offer in May
    Franklin 58 – no offer
    Disney 34 – offer in August
    Stone 2 – offer in April

    Hamilton 22 – offer in April
    Belding 87 – no offer
    Pierce 196 – no offer
    Alcott 474 – no offer
    Agassiz 159 – I removed us from wait list at schools request since we knew we wouldn’t be attending
    Ravenswood 233 – also removed us from this list at school request
    Burley 534 – no offer
    Nettlehorst 258 – no offer
    Goethe 142 – offer in September
    Prescott 116 – offer in July
    Burr 12 – offer in April

    Disney II 211 – no offer

    Good luck to everyone!

  • 389. Jaysmom  |  April 2, 2016 at 11:23 pm

    Offered Owen, but waitlisted #2 @ Mark Sheridan. Anyone know what my chances are??

  • 390. Apmommy  |  April 2, 2016 at 11:25 pm

    @ one and only- thanks for insight!!
    I may have hope after all
    Tier 4
    Disney wait list #12
    Stem #25
    Sheridan #26

  • 391. MamaBlue  |  April 2, 2016 at 11:32 pm

    @El….I don’t know where you live, but are you familiar with the neighborhood that Frazier is in? VERY violent, high gang/crime area with open air drug activity. That area leads the city in homicides for 2016. I have 13 years of experience working in that area, and while Frazier may have great students, the neighborhood is way too dangerous for me to ever consider sending my children there for school. I don’t mean to offend anyone, but safety comes first for our kids. I would go with Disney…which is a great school. I have several friends with kids there and they are very happy with it.

  • 392. Northprk  |  April 2, 2016 at 11:39 pm

    @351 parent. Parents can drop off Kids at the Ymca as early as 7am. The kids leave the Y on a small bus and arrive at D2 school by 8:20.

  • 393. Parent  |  April 3, 2016 at 12:08 am

    Thanks @realchicagomama and @northprk! So do you love it there? I know tons of people want to go there but haven’t heard a lot of first-hand experiences. Is it someplace a free-spirited and artistic, not particularly studious kid could fit in? Is it friendly, is there emphasis on being kind to other students? It seems pretty rigid and tech from the website.

  • 394. SS  |  April 3, 2016 at 12:13 am

    1st grade all WL

    Coonley 92
    Hawthorne 121
    Murphy 20
    Peterson 26
    Stone 41
    Wildwood 10
    Disney II 6
    Beaubien 63

    Any shot at D2? I am thinking likely not.
    Thoughts about chances at D2, Wildwood, and Stone appreciated, also any further info on Peterson or Murphy from current parents?

  • 395. nadja2  |  April 3, 2016 at 6:35 am

    @bronzeville mom

    I’m not sure if students go to skinner park after school. I think that is up to CPS transportation. From what I know kids either go to Sheridan park, Cordi Marian, and another park district (I forget the name). Cordi Marian provides its own transportation. The other park district location is on the pre approved list for bussing.

    There 3 total kindergarten classes at Galileo

  • 396. SS  |  April 3, 2016 at 6:40 am

    Forgot to mention, all “General”

  • 397. Jen K  |  April 3, 2016 at 7:23 am

    @393 If you are available to tour D2 this week on Thursday morning, call the office tomorrow to reserve a spot. It is adults only, and for parents/guardians of students who were accepted or are 1-5 on a Kindergarten wait list.
    The school has been fantastic for my children. There is structure (but not rigidity) and students have choice within a frame work (ex: independent reading time – structure. Student chooses a nook or corner or chair in which to read – choice.). Our Principal believes homework should be minimal. It is an Art and Technology school, so both of those are incorporated into daily curriculum.
    Importantly, go with your instinct – only you know if a school will be a good fit for your own child.

  • 398. Concerned  |  April 3, 2016 at 7:31 am

    Question: I was surprised at my child’s score (lower than I expected based the level of work he is doing now) did anyone else feel this way? This is for kindergarten.

    Also, does anyone know about wait list moments for Norwood park 157 and Orioles park 22?

  • 399. SouthsideMom  |  April 3, 2016 at 7:35 am

    My son got an offer in LaSalle. She is on 2nd on the waiting list for Mark Sheridan. Any chances to Sheridan? Need some input as to compare both school. Also, where we live is over 6 miles from LaSalle. Can we have transportation at other school on route to LaSalle?

  • 400. Southloopmon  |  April 3, 2016 at 7:52 am

    So does NTA waitlist everyone until the neighborhood kids register? How about siblings? Anyone get an acceptance with a sibling preference for the high achievers program?

  • 401. apmommy  |  April 3, 2016 at 8:02 am

    Hi out there, does anyone know if Disney I has a private bus service for those that live outside the 6 mile radius, and if that school is worth the commute of let’s say 20+ miles!!!! When the other option is Owen on the south side

  • 402. apmommy  |  April 3, 2016 at 8:02 am

    Wondering if Owen has an after school program, if any one knows

  • 403. Near South Sider  |  April 3, 2016 at 8:20 am


    NTA does wait list everyone, and they don’t start calling until the neighborhood kids register. Last year, they started calling in mid-June. You already have a kid there and were waitlisted for #2? What is your waitlist number?

  • 404. Confused  |  April 3, 2016 at 8:25 am

    This is ignorance what does NTA stand for? Is that all neighborhood schools like Norwood park, oriole park etc

  • 405. Southloopmom  |  April 3, 2016 at 8:48 am

    @ confused- NTA stands for National Teachers Academy. It is a school with a neighborhood program and RGC.

  • 406. Southloopmom  |  April 3, 2016 at 8:51 am

    @ near South sider
    No, it was a general question… Have a few more years before #2 starts K. Just trying to figure my odds of getting both kids @ same school.

  • 407. Near South Sider  |  April 3, 2016 at 9:19 am


    I’ll be in the exact same position, so I was hoping I would be able to watch you go through it before me to see how it all pans out! 😀

    But from what I understand, siblings do get preference on the waitlist–and this is supposed to hold true whether the older kid is in the achievers or the RGC.

  • 408. Hamilton wait list  |  April 3, 2016 at 9:32 am

    Our child’s wait list # at Hamilton for K is 30. Any chance at all?

  • 409. One and Only  |  April 3, 2016 at 10:27 am

    @408 – I posted our numbers from last year above. We were 22 on the Hamilton list and got an email offer in April, so I would think 30 stands a chance. I was very impressed with Hamilton when I toured it last year, and very nearly accepted the spot. The only reason I didn’t was be we wanted the foreign language option at Lasalle II. Good luck!

  • 410. First timers  |  April 3, 2016 at 10:54 am

    This is my first time applying for my child. So, I’m not familiar with the process, and I’m curious to what order do the schools go down the wait list? Any insight is much appreciated. TIA.

  • 411. 2nd Round Mom  |  April 3, 2016 at 11:05 am

    This is my 2nd year at this game of wait and see. FUN! 🙂
    Last year was wait listed (kdg) for all schools & received no offers
    This year wait listed, once again w/ most numbers in triple digits.

    Thorp,O: proximity #3 (1st choice)
    Oriole Park : General #9

    1st Grade:
    Thorp,O: General # 84
    Oriole Park :68
    Murphy: # 1

    Hoping on Thorp!!!
    What are the chances for the Kdg slot????? Any comments would be appreciated.

  • 412. Hamilton wait list  |  April 3, 2016 at 11:09 am

    @ 409 One and Only
    Thanks for the reply. We are hoping for some good luck.

  • 413. StayinginCPS  |  April 3, 2016 at 11:42 am

    @2nd Round Mom—I think for sure you will get a call from Thorp…we were #3 Tier 3 last year and got an acceptance, in late April I think…and i just went thru last year’s thread and someone got accepted in Sept and was #13 on proximity. So I think for sure you will get a call for your K student.

    Good luck!

  • 414. K10  |  April 3, 2016 at 12:09 pm

    What do you think about Thorp?

  • 415. Katie  |  April 3, 2016 at 12:27 pm

    My son is going into K and the best #s we got for the waitlist are:

    Disney II #2 (Tier 4)
    InterAmerican #17 (Tier 4)

    Does anyone know about the odds for either, especially Disney II??

  • 416. Kimmy Martinez  |  April 3, 2016 at 12:28 pm

    Good afternoon all,
    We received our son’s letter for selective enrollment this afternoon. For those of you that are familiar with the selective enrollment process can you please tell me what are the chances of getting called if your number is 3 for a selective school? Should I not even bother and continue with the school that he is in now? Or should I really have my hopes up high? TIA 🙋🏻
    School *** Galileo
    Wait list # *** 3

  • 417. Jen K  |  April 3, 2016 at 12:31 pm

    @415 that’s a nice number for D2 tier 4. There is a chance! Every year is different so no guarantees, of course.

  • 418. Katie  |  April 3, 2016 at 12:49 pm


    I was planning to attend the tour tomorrow. Is that not the right one? It is the only one listed on their calendar.

  • 419. Kimmy  |  April 3, 2016 at 12:52 pm

    Hi Katie,
    I did see that on their calendar also. But I was not sure if it was by invite only or if anyone can go in and take a look.

  • 420. Oscar Mayer Dad  |  April 3, 2016 at 1:21 pm

    Hi there. Curious if anyone has any info on if something weird is going on at LaSalle.

    I’m a parent of a current 1st-grader. I put in for the Magnets every years since before K, so this is our third time. Never get my hopes up since K is the best shot to get in to one, and we usually get very high wait list numbers. But this year we got offered LaSalle and I’m friends with someone who also got offered a 2nd grade spot in LaSalle. (Our other ones were typical high wait numbers, Franklin, LaSalle II, etc)

    Certainly could be a coincidence that I happen to know another person who scored a 2nd-grade slot, or it could be a sign that a lot of slots opened up due to parents leaving the school for some reason. The old principal there stated that it was pretty rare for slots in higher grades to open up for non-siblings so this seems odd that I know of two this year for just one grade level.

    We just moved this winter break so we could get out of Ogden (long story) and relocated to Oscar Mayer’s neighborhood, and my daughter is very happy there.

    If we got this letter while still at Ogden we wouldn’t even be giving it a second thought, but now we are in a school we really like and are not sure about taking the LaSalle spot, especially if there may be a bad reason the spots opened up.

    Any LaSalle parents have any insight? Would be nice to have magnet slot so we don’t have to pay attention to boundaries when trying to buy a condo, which we are currently attempting.

  • 421. Jen K  |  April 3, 2016 at 1:41 pm

    @418 Katie we moved the tour to Thursday since letters were delayed. I guess the website wasn’t updated. Definitely rsvp to the school; the tour is for accepted parents/guardians only, and Kindergarten WL 1-5. All of our tours are adults only. Hope to see you there!

  • 422. jenchicago  |  April 3, 2016 at 1:53 pm

    Does anyone know if Alcott’s waitlist moves at all for first grade?

  • 423. MamaBlue  |  April 3, 2016 at 2:15 pm

    We are passing on our offer for O Thorp for K, so there will be at least one spot available.

  • 424. FREEDOM  |  April 3, 2016 at 2:23 pm

    Oscarmayer Dad, I don’t know about LaSalle but I would say to take it, then you can buy your condo without having to worry about boundaries. BTW, I’m an Ogden parent and I’m leaving too, for the same reasons you left.

  • 425. Maryjane  |  April 3, 2016 at 2:25 pm

    Accepted to Franklin. Does anyone have any insight into the school? I know the LSC just fired the principal that was there for 10 years. Anyone know about that?

  • 426. Oscar Mayer Dad  |  April 3, 2016 at 2:40 pm

    @425 Maryjane
    I do know that one of the candidates for the job is an asst principal at Ogden who would be great, many wish she had gotten the Ogden job rather than the one who is there now.

  • 427. Mj09  |  April 3, 2016 at 2:44 pm

    Did anyone receive letters from classical school yet? I’m waiting to see if my son got accepted for skinner north for 2nd grade. I received only SEES letter only.

  • 428. Erica  |  April 3, 2016 at 2:46 pm

    @Ivasdad Here are our other numbers:


    Blaine 833
    Burley 194
    Audubon 179
    Hamilton 260
    Coonley 296

    Disney 3


    Our daughter currently attends InterAmerican PK and attended PK last year at Disney (on Marine) <– which we loved, but think we're going to accept the seat at Hawthorne. Any Hawthorne parents feedback appreciated!

    Thank you!


  • 429. FREEDOM  |  April 3, 2016 at 2:47 pm

    OscarMDad, she didn’t want the Ogden job. It was offered, she turned it down.

  • 430. Oscar Mayer Dad  |  April 3, 2016 at 2:48 pm

    I know.

  • 431. terabobera  |  April 3, 2016 at 4:05 pm

    Our family loves Hawthorne! My child is in second grade and I’ll have two in kindergarten next year. The teachers are wonderful, for the most part, and I am very impressed with our principal. He’s very warm and communicative and seems dedicated to making sure all children are happy and successful at Hawthorne. I like the fact that my child gets recess and gym every day, and even though there are about 32 in a class, they do pullout for reading and math. Every year each grade has an arts partnership where the children create, learn, and then showcase for the parents. It’s a real highlight in the year, I think. My child takes the train to school (with his dad) and takes the bus home. We live in Roger’s Park.

  • 432. Archmom  |  April 3, 2016 at 4:14 pm

    @420 we also got an offer for second grade at LaSalle. We are staying at our SEES school but I do the the lottery just in case. So that’s 3 spots opening.

  • 433. Hannah  |  April 3, 2016 at 4:30 pm

    Does anyone know, if I accept an offer from one magnet school ( Pritzker ), do i stay on the waiting list for the others? We have very high wait list spots at Hawthorne and a couple others I would pick over Pritzker. I don’t want to lose that spot just in case, but I definitely want to stay on the wait list for the others…

  • 434. Bronzeville Mom  |  April 3, 2016 at 4:36 pm

    @433 Yes, you will stay on the other schools’ waiting lists even if you accept the spot at Pritzker. If you accept a SEES spot, it will take you off the wait list for the other SEES, but all the magnet schools are independent lists. You just cannot be registered at more than one school than one, so once you’ve accepted a spot and registered at that school, if you get a call from another school whose spot you want to accept you will have to call the first school to have them take you out of their system in CPS so that you can officially enroll in the next school.

  • 435. Stem parent  |  April 3, 2016 at 6:15 pm

    We are currently at stem for kinder and would be happy to answer the two people who asked up thread. Also, for the record, also got a lasalle offer for 1st.

  • 436. Maria  |  April 3, 2016 at 6:26 pm

    @ STEM parent,

    My son has been waitlisted #1 for STEM, My sister teaches at Lasalle, both my older daughter and nephew went there. My son and I both attended the open house which was on a day of NO SCHOOL, I think back in November. Very impressed. Any general knowledge u might add? What are the class sizes?

  • 437. Stem parent  |  April 3, 2016 at 7:00 pm

    @Maria. We were waitlist #1 last year. Kinder class has 28 kids. It’s too many but pretty normal for cps. They kinder kids rotate classes for each subject. I love that. It’s only a matter of time before you get a teacher you don’t care for. At stem that teacher would be for one subject. Plus my kid is high energy and moving from class to class breaks up the monotony of the day. I wish they pushed the kids harder, but that’s probably me (I’m a little high strung). the kinder teacher for math is new this year. English teacher has been there. Art, music, gym, technology, science/engineering teachers all teach multiple grades. No language (enrichment only). Let me know if there it’s anything else I can tell you. We are happy and would probably only leave for sees. I’m pretty sure the academics will become stronger each year as many kids enter kinder fresh and need to learn what is expected at school. Kid are at many different levels in her class.

  • 438. Lisab  |  April 3, 2016 at 8:16 pm

    Does anyone have thoughts on Oscar Mayer? It is an option for our child for K next year.

  • 439. Maria  |  April 3, 2016 at 8:19 pm

    @STEM parent,

    Thank you for ur insight. He has been offered Beaubien RGC. One of the things I mainly worry about is the “pushing” and “encouragement”. When I mentioned to his KG teacher that we were applying to an RGC school and his aunt’s magnet school, she said, “he would do well in any school you decide on, it’s only the middle of the year and he is ready to go on to first, I have kids that do not know how to write their alphabet yet.” That last comment worries me. She an awesome teacher but has too many students that need some additional attention. Always feel that my son will be “dumbed down” to make it easier

  • 440. 3isacharm  |  April 3, 2016 at 8:34 pm

    Any info on Owen,orClissold ?

  • 441. cpswonderland  |  April 3, 2016 at 9:09 pm

    Anyone has an idea whats happening in Lasalle because they offered a lot of spots for non-entering grades?

  • 442. PsyMom  |  April 3, 2016 at 9:11 pm

    @Oscar Mayer Dad & @FREEDOM:

    My child got a K RGC offer at Coonley, but we’re also thinking of moving to the Ogden neighborhood because we were so impressed at the open house and like the IB curriculum, in part, because of the inclusion of social-emotional learning. On our tour, we were lead through the school by 4th-grade volunteers who seemed so mature and poised and seemed to love their school. Your comments indicate that you were not so happy there – would you mind saying more about why? Moving from Wicker Park to the Ogden neighborhood is not an easy decision and we’d only do it if we thought the school was worth it. Thanks!

  • 443. Stem parent  |  April 3, 2016 at 9:28 pm

    @Maria. Are you entering kinder or first? My child tested at ready for first grade on her mid year nwea. She also scored 139 on her rgc test last year. She is not the most advanced in her class. There are kids reading 400 sight words and kids reading 25. I was concerned last year that the pressure of a rgc would stressful. That could be due to some of the posts on here about pre k kids reading college level. Not sure about all those stories. I can tell you that my child loves going to school. She loves her teachers, administrators and has made many friends. The homework load is not an overload. We have time for extracurricular activities and supplement with workbooks, reading and whatever she comes home interested in. It is a tough decision and I stressed over the decision last year and still check the progress of her pre k charter to compare and entered the lotto just in case. Overall you have fabulous options and will be happy with which ever decision you make. 🙂

  • 444. Maria  |  April 3, 2016 at 10:03 pm

    STEM parent,

    He is going to be entering first. Scored 99% in reading and a 97% in math. Yes…this is hard. Thank you for the kind words. Have a good night.

  • 445. AnotherCPSParent  |  April 3, 2016 at 10:10 pm

    @337. JMOChicago

    Great Post!

    Once again, does anyone have experience with Murphy or Prescott? Thanks!

  • 446. Kimmycm  |  April 3, 2016 at 11:19 pm

    Good evening all,
    can anyone please give me their thoughts on Galileo school? My son was not selected but he does have a really low number and I would just like to find out more information and thoughts from parents that have children attending there already or had children attending there. TIA. 🙋🏻

  • 447. Oscar Mayer Dad  |  April 4, 2016 at 12:22 am


    My daughter is in 1st grade at Oscar Mayer. We moved up to the neighborhood (from Ogden) in December, so she has been there only since right after Xmas break. Take my opinion with the caveat that we are new here.

    But, we are SOOOOOOO HAPPY with OM. My kid has been thriving since we came here.

    I adore the Montessori method and it is a really good fit for her. Teachers are great, and there are asst. teachers in every room (through at least 5th grade I think), lots of opportunities for parent involvement.

    I’ve been to every LSC and Friends of Mayer meeting since we came here and I’m really impressed with the parent community. They have been very welcoming and that attitude trickles down to the kids. My daughter made friends quickly and we’ve already had times of hanging out with friends and their parents (which, as a stay-at-home-dad, it is always nice to meet accepting and outgoing parents when you are someone who does not fit the middle-class family mold).

    Leadership is the key, of course. Principal is a great woman who has been here for I think 9 or 10 years now and all three of her children also attend the school, so she is invested in every way.

    There is a decent amount of pressure for donating money to Friends of Mayer. But with the current state of CPS finances I imagine that is pretty much unavoidable, and Oscar Mayer cost more to run than other CPS schools due to the Montessori requirements.

    My wife and I always had LaSalle on the top of our wish list since before K, but of course never got a spot. Now we have just been offered a spot at LaSalle for next year and after we talked it over tonight we decided there is no way we would consider leaving Oscar Mayer. We’re just that happy with it.

  • 448. Oscar Mayer Dad  |  April 4, 2016 at 12:49 am


    My opinion – Don’t even think about it.

    The atmosphere at Ogden is toxic. There have been something like 5 principals there in 6 years and there is a decent chance that the current one leaves after this year, and hopefully he will.

    Parent community there is certainly not great (very fractured) but the principal has worked hard to divide it even more. He has started a whisper campaign to accuse Ogden parent of being racist, despite the fact they send their kids to one of the most racially diverse neighborhood schools in CPS (and he sends his kids to a rich, white private school – he’s white himself). Parents are calling other parents racist (without foundation) even in the media.

    The principal has been electioneering to stack the CPS with people who will rubber stamp his agenda, while ignoring the falling academics. He’s a bully who will openly attack parents who question his agenda. I’ve been the target of those attacks along with many good people who have dedicated so much to that school over the years.

    I know many parents who are planning to leave (there are many like me who already have) by next school year, including some of the parents who are the most active leaders there. I also know some great teachers there who will resign if he gets his rubber stamp LSC.

    Ogden has been a great school but now has a narcissistic leader who seems hell-bent on destroying it with his misguided political agenda. We moved to a different part of the city – mid-year – to get away from that place. It was no small thing as my wife used to walk to work and now she has to commute, but that’s how strongly we felt about the downward spiral at Ogden.

  • 449. FREEDOM  |  April 4, 2016 at 3:39 am

    Stay far away from Ogden. There is something wrong with the Principal. He fights to the death on issues with parents that are not fight worthy. He just wants to win. Every day is a different issue with him. His new scheme is to stack the LSC with his friends. He actually gave his friends the CPS owned constant contact software so they could campaign for themselves. That is illegal so if his friends win, they will be getting tossed off the ballot. Friends of Ogden also are in cahoots with whole scheme so they had to cancel their April 12 spring fundraiser as it resembled an electioneering event. Speaking of the Friends of Ogden group, it’s an invitation only group so it’s like a sorority. Meetings are top secret and held in an undisclosed location. So crazy. Also, it is likely that Ogden and Jenner will be merging. So that adds a whole new chaotic element to this soap opera.

  • 450. Eightbooksorbust  |  April 4, 2016 at 6:29 am

    Feedback on Lasalle II? I had never considered but are waitlisted at #14 tier 3 so thinking we might have a shot

  • 451. Momoftwo  |  April 4, 2016 at 6:43 am

    Also curious about the large number of non entry year spots available at LaSalle. It seems unusual – can anyone offer any insight?

  • 452. EverPatient  |  April 4, 2016 at 6:58 am

    I would definitely do a tour of Lasalle II if they are offering one. We got in a few years ago, and they kindly offered a tour for accepted families before the deadline. Personally, it wasn’t for us. One specific factor is that Lasalle II is one of the few Magnets that do not offer bus service (which we rely on at our current school).

  • 453. Lisab  |  April 4, 2016 at 7:05 am

    Thank you, Oscar Mayer dad!

  • 454. SNparent  |  April 4, 2016 at 7:47 am

    To the parent (apologies, can’t find the post right now) who asked about living in Lincoln square/North Center and attending SN, we live in that area and have a child at SN. We carpool with another family that lives nearby (take turns dropping off and picking up) and my DD takes the bus home. As far as play dates and friends, there will be kids who live far away and it is a negative compared to a neighborhood school (you will still experience this issue in a magnet school), but she happens to have quite a few friends who live in the northside neighborhoods and birthday parties have been easily accessible as well. Hasn’t been too much of a big deal yet and the diversity at SN is pretty amazing.

  • 455. rewing123  |  April 4, 2016 at 8:09 am

    Hamilton Gifted program- anyone have any insight? we got in lottery but also got into SN. We are probably going with SN but i’d love some info since there’s not much on their website. How does it work, how do you qualify, etc

    @SNparent: thanks for the input! very helpful.

  • 456. ObsessedNewbie  |  April 4, 2016 at 8:26 am

    What are my chances of getting into these schools based on tier 2? Thanks!
    Disney I-21
    Thorp O-33

  • 457. kay0185  |  April 4, 2016 at 8:50 am

    Would like any insight on LaSalle. My son was offered a spot for 1st grade next year. We live on the south side and if we transfer I would like to know if the commute would be worth it.

  • 458. Good Life PR  |  April 4, 2016 at 9:17 am

    Any insight on how a #24 for general waitlist for Mitchell for kindergarten would fair in terms of getting in? My gut tells me it won’t happen but would for sure appreciate feedback. Thanks in advance.

  • 459. cpsteacherandmom  |  April 4, 2016 at 9:31 am

    Sorry for people asking about input at Thorp, I didn’t check the blog this weekend. My daughter is in K at OA Thorp and we love it. It is an amazing school- so much going on there. There is a wonderful fine arts program, as well as STEM after school classes, a comprehensive gifted program, I could go on and on. The parent involvement is high and the school is beautiful.

    We were #13 last year for kinder proximity and got a call the day before school started.

  • 460. PsyMom  |  April 4, 2016 at 9:33 am

    @Oscar Mayer Dad & @FREEDOM: Thank you!! The issues you mentioned are not easy to see on school tours so your input is greatly appreciated. There must be some parents there who are happy but we’ll look a lot more closely at the environment there. Have a great day!

  • 461. SD123  |  April 4, 2016 at 9:39 am

    @Maria and @STEM Parent,

    Any additional info about Kinder at LaSalle and STEM would be appreciated; we applied knowing they are a long shot and now have to pick one by Apr 15. Their websites don’t have many details and there’s no open house for prospective parents…

    How is class size, and what are the options for after school care?

  • 462. Another Soon to Be Former Ogden Family  |  April 4, 2016 at 9:45 am

    Yet another parent looking for LaSalle info! And yet another Ogden parent getting out. But now with all of the upper grade offers I’m seeing for Lasalle, I’m curious to know if there’s something amiss.

    As far as Ogden is concerned, Oscar Mayer Dad is pretty much spot on. There’s been a revolving door on the principal’s office ever since the long-time principal was “invited and allowed to resign.” My oldest is now on their 6th principal.

    I am not impressed with the current principal, who seems to have a different answer to the same questions depending on who is doing the asking. From the start, his emails to parents seemed condescending and patronizing. He’s very big on calling anyone who disagrees with his plans or perceptions racist and classist — it started before the Jenner merger talks became public. He intimated that parents were racist, classist, and ignorant when they voiced their concerns about Wells HS. And as OMD pointed out, he does so while sending his children to a private Montessori, instead of sending them to the neighborhood elementary.

    The IB PYP program for K-5 is weak. There’s some skills development, but no knowledge development. Math continues to be an afterthought with no commercial curriculum adopted and the teacher-created curriculum not really reflecting a well thought out progression of skills. And by “afterthought” I mean that as of Christmas break, the principal wasn’t ready to share what the teachers were STILL DEVELOPING for the curriculum four months into the school year. Despite having a high number of high-attaining children from stable homes, the school can’t seem to get consistent growth from their students. Last year’s 5th graders had growth in the 12th percentile, nationally. That’s directly attributable to the curriculum for the grade.

    So, someone tell us what is going on at LaSalle! I want to know if we’re going from a bad situation to a worse situation!

  • 463. cojochicago  |  April 4, 2016 at 9:54 am

    Entering Kindergarten

    Galileo: T3 #5
    Sheridan: Proximity #158
    Jackson: T3 #53
    Stem: T3 #27

    Chances look good for Galileo, any thoughts on the chances at Sheridan and Jackson? Sheridan was our first preference (shaking fist at sky).

  • 464. Vanessa  |  April 4, 2016 at 10:02 am

    @teachermom #312– Thanks! I’ve heard its pretty hard to get off the waitlist and have a backup school in mind. sigh.

  • 465. thoughts on LaSalle / all schools / spots opening in older grades  |  April 4, 2016 at 10:07 am

    I do not have any first hand experience with LaSalle and all I know is what everyone else has read in the news, being that the former principal left not too long ago, but I wonder if part of the availability of spots in the older grades has anything to do with the real estate market picking up, interest rates remaining low for now, and families who may have wanted to move for a while but been unable to do so for a number of years now being able to unload their real estate at a more reasonable price and and moving to other cities/towns/burbs. Another thought is that with all the CPS and state budget issues and more talk of teacher strikes beyond the one day last Friday, perhaps a number of families are finally just fed up with it all and moving out. Just a thought……..but I guess if this is true then we will see much more movement than normal in upper grades across numerous schools.

  • 466. curiousmama  |  April 4, 2016 at 10:15 am

    Entering 1st grade and we got #3 on the general waitlist for Coonley. What are the odds of getting a spot? Overall happy with kindergarten at our neighborhood school but would definitely consider Coonley if it was offered. I appreciate any insight! Thanks!

  • 467. OgdenParent2016  |  April 4, 2016 at 10:18 am

    I’ll agree with the other Ogden parents that the new principal has been extremely divisive and has caused many great families to consider leaving the school. Everything he does seems to revolve around curing the racial and class bias he perceives among parents and teachers. I missed the the boat on SEES & lottery for next fall, but will absolutely have an escape plan for the following year.

  • 468. Budlong3  |  April 4, 2016 at 10:19 am

    We were offered a Kdg spot at Solomon.
    I have yet to tour it, but it sounds like their kdg class size is 34?! Any thoughts on whether the high class size/small school at Solomon is worth considering? No other low numbers, so it’s either this or Catholic school…

  • 469. SNMommy  |  April 4, 2016 at 10:30 am

    @455 If you are considering Skinner North, you should head over to the Gifted and Classical thread on this blog–lots of people have posted there. Also, be sure to attend the open house this week. 🙂

  • 470. AnotherThorpMom  |  April 4, 2016 at 10:33 am

    I’m late to the game.
    K – Sibling offer @ Thorp which we will accept

    T4 WL that we will turn down if called
    Stone #18
    Burr #121

  • 471. Oscar Mayer Dad  |  April 4, 2016 at 10:34 am


    Let me just add my agreement to everything you added about what is wrong at Ogden. 100% true.

  • 472. soon2b cps parent  |  April 4, 2016 at 10:44 am

    Hi all,
    any thoughts of getting into K

    STEM #25
    Sheridan #26

    TIer 4

  • 473. kelsmith  |  April 4, 2016 at 10:54 am

    My daughter got into Disney for 1st grade but we are #11 general at Sheridan. I am wondering what our chances are for getting in? We live in Hyde Park and would love if she could go to school close to home.

  • 474. OgdenParent2016  |  April 4, 2016 at 11:08 am

    Just to give you an idea of our Principal’s priorities. He has recently started an initiative he calls the “Equity Audit Experimentation Project”. It is his attempt to find racial bias in our staff and implement appropriate re-training.

    Direct quote from our Principal in explaining his project:

    “Since starting at Ogden in July of 2015 I have been made aware of the economic and racial segregation between our East Campus Gold Coast neighborhood, the West Campus in West Town, and Jenner located in the former Cabrini Green neighborhood inn between our two campuses. There was an attempt to consolidate these two schools but it was denied primarily because parents and some teachers disagreed using coded language that indicated racial bias.

    Additionally, there are a handful of teachers that have antagonistic relationships with black students. We are in the process of implementing restorative justice, which relates to this assignment, because it will require a shift in teachers’ thinking in regards to power and relationships.”

  • 475. bobirby  |  April 4, 2016 at 11:15 am

    Can anyone explain to me how the magnet schools work their lists for first grade ? I thought there was just a siblings wait list followed by the general wait list. For example we live four blocks from Disney II hitting in the 30’s on the general list this year though last year we were listed as proximity for kindergarten. Do Magnet schools still continue a proximity list for 1st grade and up ?

    The reason I ask is this year we are on Oscar Mayer magnet school’s wait list as general at 11 and 12 (twins) but the school told us all the first grade spots would go to children that lived in the neighborhood first. I just wasnt aware there was a proximity list for first grade that would override the general list at magnet schools since Disney II didnt appear to have proximity list for first grade.


  • 476. KVel  |  April 4, 2016 at 11:17 am

    My son was offered a spot in LaSalle and Talcott for 1st grade. Any thoughts? I am unfamiliar as I was unable to attend the open houses offered at LaSalle and there isn’t much information on their websites. Also, on the wait list for Drummond (#14). What are the chances of the list moving for 1st grade? He is currently in a Montessori school and would love to keep him in the program if possible. Please help? any information would be greatly appreciated : )

  • 477. Cr8ing Startups  |  April 4, 2016 at 11:25 am

    If IB is important to you and you are thinking about Ogden, know that Ogden does not have an PYP IB Coordinator right now. The person left a few weeks ago. The principal says he’ll hire a new on come fall, but, like anything with him, it’s wait and see.

  • 478. Adjourn Ogden  |  April 4, 2016 at 11:34 am

    I guess nobody understands the principal at Ogden is the smartest guy in the room. Not. There were several reasons why the Ogden/Jenner merger didn’t happen. The Principal likes to demonize the Ogden parents and blame them for racism. But one reason is if the principal was an epic failure at two campuses, how could he manage three? Also, the problem with Ogden high school still being in a grade school building was still going to be a problem. Also, the Jenner parents and the Jenner LSC had a say, along with the Jenner principal. Not everyone from Jenner was anxious for the merger. There was already a fight about whether to call it Ogden-Jenner or Jenner-Ogden. And, if the merger did happen, the boundaries had to expand, which would mean that Jenner would be overcrowded. So merging Ogden into Jenner for overcrowding issues doesn’t make sense if Jenner would be overcrowded. So there were many reasons not to merge at this time. And race wasn’t a factor. Let’s face it, if you are racist, you probably won’t go to CPS anyway. You probably would go to a near north, private, expensive school.

  • 479. Confused again  |  April 4, 2016 at 11:43 am

    Stone Scholastic had NO parent input to 5 essentials? https://illinois.5-essentials.org/2015/s/150162990252468/essentials/#trends

    Can anyone address concerns I’ve heard

    Also what makes it “scholastic”?
    Condescending principal?
    Stressed students over homework load?
    Filthy bathrooms?
    Bullying (kids leaving and homeschooling its so bad)

    Its very convenient but I think my search continues.

  • 480. Jessica Burke  |  April 4, 2016 at 11:50 am

    Drummond waitlist# 33
    Mayer waitlist# 2
    Suder waitlist# 151
    Tier 4

  • 481. Oscar Mayer Dad  |  April 4, 2016 at 11:52 am

    @475 bobirby

    Magnets do not have proximity lottery after K. But Oscar Mayer is not a regular magnet, but a “cluster magnet.” They have students that come in within the neighborhood boundary (we moved here to get in) and students that come in through the magnet program. Anyone in the boundary with a kid in K or higher can just walk in with their residency docs and enroll.

    I would assume they would not start looking at their wait lists until the new school year starts as figuring out how many neighborhood kids will enroll is a lot of guesswork.

  • 482. bobirby  |  April 4, 2016 at 11:56 am

    Thanks, that explains it….

  • 483. Rebecca Wells  |  April 4, 2016 at 12:00 pm

    How soon after the April 15 deadline to accept do magnet schools start calling for incoming K waitlists? At #10 on the Thorp proximity list I’m trying to figure out if I should be hopefuly for a call sooner, or if I should just try to put this nonsense out of my mind until July…

  • 484. Lisajo  |  April 4, 2016 at 12:07 pm

    Thanks One and Only. Which school did you go with after 8 offers?

  • 485. Candice Warltier  |  April 4, 2016 at 12:11 pm

    accepted to LaSalle – what is status of the principal?
    number 5 on wait list for Hawthorne – what’s happened at this school in last few years?

  • 486. Kheerni  |  April 4, 2016 at 12:12 pm

    I’m a current Ogden parent of a 2nd grader, and I don’t understand these extreme negative comments posted above. I understand that the principal has ruffled some feathers and there was a LOT of drama last fall over a possible merger with Jenner, and I personally was peeved by some of the misinformation that was being bandied about regarding that merger. At the same time, my kid loves going to school and we absolutely love our teacher. In fact, we have really liked our prior teachers as well and parents I speak to all love their respective teachers, which bodes really well.
    I truly love the IB curriculum and the reason for not following a particular curriculum textbook is so that teachers can customize the curriculum by taking elements from IB and the particular requirements of their own class, which could mean a more differeniated approach. On an aside, our class teacher does yoga with the kids for five minutes in the middle of the day to get them centered. How awesome is that!

    If there are some parents who are leaving or unhappy then there are many other awesome parents who are staying and are invested in the education of their kids and in the school. And as long as you have invested and involved parents, the kids and the school will thrive.

    I feel that my kid is getting a solid start at Ogden. I’m not saying that the parents who are unhappy age wrong. That was THEIR perspective. I felt I should offer my very different perspective to allow people to see that everything is not black and white.

  • 487. Jordan7  |  April 4, 2016 at 12:19 pm

    Anyone in the first 27 general waiting list for Andrew Jackson?

  • 488. JAG  |  April 4, 2016 at 12:23 pm

    @ #387 Benita Jorge.
    Thorp does offer a bus for students who live between 1.5-6 miles.
    Next year they will be offering an afterschool program from 2:45-6:45,
    with various programs. My son is currently in 1st grade there, he loves it. My oldest went there, and was in the gifted program. Thorp does a great job at preparing the kids academically. They have great test scores, also they have great sports teams.

  • 489. OgdenParent2016  |  April 4, 2016 at 12:31 pm

    Ogden parents will almost universally agree we have amazing teachers and the potential to be the top neighborhood school in CPS.

    Unfortunately our parent community is extremely divided – mostly due to our Principal’s (and his supporters) determined effort to make Ogden a social justice cause in the media.

  • 490. Adjourn Ogden  |  April 4, 2016 at 12:42 pm

    The teachers at Ogden, for the most part are great. If you aren’t a super involved parent (drop off and pick up only) and have never had any concerns, you probably will be fine. I don’t mean to sound harsh, but I don’t think 5 minutes of yoga is any reason to stay at the school. But if that works for you, great.

  • 491. Jenan  |  April 4, 2016 at 12:48 pm

    Does anyone have children at Salazar? We’ve been offered a spot for our son starting Kindergarten and are considering it. We also have good wait-list numbers at Sheridan(7), NTA(17) and Galileo(12).

  • 492. mrssilencedogood75  |  April 4, 2016 at 12:59 pm

    Can we please stop calling IB a curriculum? It isn’t. It’s a method of instruction and content delivery. It isn’t a curriculum. And as IB PYP is implemented at Ogden, STEM is an afterthought. Science and math instruction has gotten progressively poorer every year that we’ve been there.

  • 493. Kheerni  |  April 4, 2016 at 12:59 pm

    @adjourn Ogden,

    LOL, five min of yoga is only an example I gave of how I feel the whole child is catered to. It is by far not the only reason I’m happy here. And any one who knows me knows that I’m super involved in school matters. Last fall I got so involved that it almost felt like a job! My intent was only to provide another view point in the spectrum. Not all views are polarized.

  • 494. Happymomof3girls  |  April 4, 2016 at 12:59 pm

    Hi all, my 1st grader got offers from Edison and Disney, and my K twins are on waiting lists:
    Stone – proximity 4 and 5
    Hawthorne – tier 3 28 and 29

    How do you think how are my twins chances for those schools? And which one is better?

  • 495. Adjourn Ogden  |  April 4, 2016 at 1:09 pm

    Kheerni, I’m sorry but 5 minutes of yoga is the only example you could come up with how they cater to your whole child? Any other examples? If you are so involved, you must know how the principal has completely polarized the school. Everyone knows he will not be there next year if he doesn’t get his LSC to be all his pals. It’s a shame, really. Are you aware Claypool is not happy with him? Are you that involved to be aware of that situation?

  • 496. Marketing Mom  |  April 4, 2016 at 1:13 pm

    Re: #485. You might have a chance at Hawthorne with a #5. I think for the non-entry level grades they give everyone a wait list number as they do not know who is going to stay as no one has been asked yet.

  • 497. Amanda  |  April 4, 2016 at 1:18 pm

    Tier 4 for K
    Offered Chappell – anyone with kids there?
    #2 for McPherson
    #27 for Agassiz so I’m wondering what our odds are

    All other numbers are laughable pretty much.

  • 498. momof3  |  April 4, 2016 at 1:36 pm

    Any Franklin parents who can give input on this school? We’re pretty high on the list for K but don’t know much about it other than the location which is perfect since I will be having 3 kids at 3 different schools in September so it’s about 5 minutes between my other two children’s schools.

  • 499. AnotherThorpMom  |  April 4, 2016 at 1:40 pm

    @479. Confused again

    “Stone Scholastic had NO parent input to 5 essentials? https://illinois.5-essentials.org/2015/s/150162990252468/essentials/#trends

    Can anyone address concerns I’ve heard

    Also what makes it “scholastic”?
    Condescending principal?
    Stressed students over homework load?
    Filthy bathrooms?
    Bullying (kids leaving and homeschooling its so bad)

    Its very convenient but I think my search continues.”

    I have close friends (teacher mom) sending their 2nd grader there since K. They have nothing but good things to say about the school. They are sending their child 6 miles to go to this school instead of attending their good neighborhood school.

    In comparing notes, my child at Thorp has more homework than theirs. I believe in 1st, their child would get a 1 month calendar with random assignments and they would pick “x” number to complete. I don’t know anything about the bathrooms and haven’t heard anything from them about bullying. I’m not sure where you found that info.

    I would suggest visiting the school and talking to current parents. Hopefully, someone else with a child there will chime in but I think you may have some mis-information or one very disgruntled parent but I don’t think this is a common feeling at the school.

  • 500. Proud (and happy) Stone parents  |  April 4, 2016 at 1:57 pm

    Regarding Stone, our two daughters attend–one in kindergarten and the other in second grade. We love it.

    To respond to some of the questions we’ve seen:

    * If you’re on the proximity wait list and don’t have a low number, it might be hard, because you’re going to need for people who got in through the proximity drawing (i.e. people who live close to Stone) to give up the spot, which is theoretically less likely than people who don’t live nearby choosing to give up their spot.

    *”Kids leaving and homeschooling its so bad”–where does this come from?! We haven’t heard of *any* problems with bullying in the lower grades or seen any evidence (and we’re on the playground with the kids a lot).

    In fact, two years ago, one of us saw a tall (seemingly older) student yelling down at a much shorter (seemingly younger) student, which looked strange to me. So we emailed Stone’s wonderful assistant principal. He called us *immediately*, asked for every little bit of information we could give him, and had us identify the two students the following day. He investigated it thoroughly. It turned out they were friends, and the two were known, by teachers and other students, to be very animated with each other (i.e. both ways).

    Last, because the mere presence of a question about bullying at a school can begin to paint an unfair portrait of the students themselves, let me just say that Stone kids are, first and foremost, *nerds*–good kids that give you hope for the future.

    If you’re unsure, there’s a simple thing any prospective parent can do: bring your kid to Stone’s playground on a day that’s above freezing/non-rainy, before the 8am bell, and look around. (Of course, you could do the same when they let students out at 3pm.) And while you’re at it, you might take a look at all the great parents. We personally find these times inspiring. It’s a great community.

    *The homework load seems fine. If anything, it’s pretty easy (although we would be fine if there wasn’t any homework in the lower grades, by the way).

    *We’ve found our daughters’ teachers to be very dedicated to their students, and completely responsive to any concerns we’ve had.

    In case it’s helpful, we’ll end by recycling parts of a long post we made in response to some unfounded rumors one person posted last year (which seemed at best alarmist):

    We are proud–and very grateful–to be part of the Stone family, with one daughter about to start second grade and another about to start kindergarten.

    The rumors that you mention about the school, whatever their source or veracity, seem to relate more to the deep and profound problems of CPS or the state of childhood in the 21st Century than anything specifically wrong with Stone.

    We have friends with kids at almost every magnet and strong neighborhood school on the north side, and while each school has it’s own strengths and weaknesses, the real problems are essentially shared across the board.

    For example, we hate the large class sizes (typically 30-32 kids), but you’ll find this at essentially every popular magnet or strong neighborhood school (one exception I can think of is Ravenswood, which apparently directs it’s budget away from some things in order to keep class sizes slightly lower).

    We see no evidence that Stone is losing kids to any significant degree. The parents that we know whom have taken their kids out of Stone have done it because they moved far away or, in one case, because they moved within walking distance of one of the north side’s best neighborhood schools.

    Stone’s reading program seems fine, again only possibly limited by class sizes (by the way, are you aware that Stone’s librarian is not only fantastic and inspiring, but nationally-famous for spreading the love of reading?).

    Stone’s principal is not outwardly inspiring, and does not have a big, warm outgoing personality, but we have come to respect and even admire her able handling of a terrible financial situation that she is facing because of CPS (and the LSC voted for her retention last year, by the way). And the assistant principal is a joy to be around, very present and social and on top of any issues that arise throughout the school or on the playground. They complement each other pretty well, actually.

    The playground is not ideal, it’s true. Improving it is one of the principal’s top goals.

    Bathrooms–all we can say is that our older daughter said she’s never had or heard of any complaints regarding the bathrooms.

    Overall, it sounds like you are new to the system. Don’t worry, we all are at some point, and it can be a difficult transition. Stone–and perhaps any non-SES CPS school–might not be the right fit for your family. But we are overwhelmingly satisfied with Stone, which provides a rich education amid a school system burdened by severe systematic problems.

  • 501. Katie  |  April 4, 2016 at 1:58 pm

    Does anyone know if there is typically any movement on the Interamerican list?

    This would be for grade K

  • 502. Marie Bernadel  |  April 4, 2016 at 2:56 pm


  • 503. 136  |  April 4, 2016 at 2:58 pm

    I have heard that there is a plan to convert LaSalle is going neighborhood due to overcrowding issues at other nearby neighborhood schools.

    Any insights?

  • 504. Confused again  |  April 4, 2016 at 3:27 pm

    Selling Stone Scholastic so hard really scares me off. There is high turnover with kids leaving I know for a fact so its clear you do not have all the facts but thanks nevertheless and good luck getting other with better offers to consider your school.

  • 505. Mj09  |  April 4, 2016 at 3:55 pm

    So when you are on the waiting list that mean every seat has been offered for that grade. I’m wondering if my kid is number 28 on the waiting list is it possible for 27 people to decline their spot for 2nd grade. Kinda sad he has a low number but not low enough.

  • 506. CPSMom  |  April 4, 2016 at 3:59 pm

    Disney vs Disney II? Thoughts?

  • 507. casualobserver  |  April 4, 2016 at 4:15 pm

    @495 AdjournOgden: The fact that Forrest Claypool is against the principal of Ogden strikes me as a point in his favor.

    Also, I don’t know much about the merger, but I decided to Google it. I’m sorry, but your principal isn’t making up your racism. This petition stinks of it:

  • 508. Decatur sib  |  April 4, 2016 at 4:20 pm

    NO mail again today!!! 60625. I seriously may lose my mind. Anyone else still waiting on RCG/Classical letters?

  • 509. cpswonderland  |  April 4, 2016 at 4:22 pm

    @508 Yes, me. At least I can call tomorrow morning to hopefully find out the results.

  • 510. Aimee Tucker  |  April 4, 2016 at 4:30 pm

    Yes, I still haven’t gotten SEES letter. I just called OAE and they said they are emailing them out tomorrow to people who haven’t received them, so I guess we need to call back tomorrow 😟

  • 511. Adjourn Ogden  |  April 4, 2016 at 4:33 pm

    @507, I don’t have a problem with Claypool at all but it sounds like you do. How well do you know him? Anyway, with how busy Claypool is and he still made time to demand, in writing, that the Principal clean up his act says a lot. In fact, in corporate America, if my boss wrote a letter to me like the one Claypool wrote, I would get a new job. Once letters like that are written, it’s usually pretty much over. I did see that petition, it was a few rogue people. But, I’ve already outlined why the merger didn’t go through. It’s nothing to do with this petition by a few extreme people. The same person that started this petition went to an LSC meeting screaming and carrying on. Police had to be called and she was removed from the meeting. She probably left the LSC meeting and went to a Trump rally.

  • 512. One and Only  |  April 4, 2016 at 4:39 pm

    @484 Lisa jo – we went with Lasalle II We were torn between Hamilton and Lasalle II, but we’re ultimately swayed by the world language focus at Lasalle II. We are happy there and will be keeping our kid there.

  • 513. Jen K  |  April 4, 2016 at 4:44 pm

    @506 Disney vs Disney II completely different schools. Big vs smallish. Pods vs traditional classroom. Geographically far apart if that is a consideration. Only commonality is the name and they are both art and technology magnet schools.

  • 514. wp  |  April 4, 2016 at 4:57 pm

    We received an offer from Burr. I’ve heard that it’s a good school, but I’m wondering why they have a considerable drop off on test scores since 2013. Does anyone have any insight into this? Was there a change in administration, how they are reporting their scores, etc?

  • 515. Waitlisted again  |  April 4, 2016 at 5:00 pm

    Does anyone know if the HAMILTON or RAVENSWOOD waitlists move at all for 1st grade entry? My child’s number’s aren’t horrible, but they’re not great.

  • 516. UptownMom  |  April 4, 2016 at 5:32 pm

    I’m not posting a full list, but we got an offer from Disney and that was my first choice so we’ll be accepting! We are #25 for Hawthorne, #28 for Swift, and #29 for Coonley (we’re Tier 3, I believe) so I may tour those depending on what I think after a Disney tour just in case we hear anything from them later on in the summer. But I have a feeling we’ll be happy with Disney based on what I’ve heard.

    My son scored 130 RGC but not expecting any offers.

  • 517. 3isacharm  |  April 4, 2016 at 7:51 pm

    TraceyJ & southsidmom any more info. on Owen?

  • 518. Selena King  |  April 4, 2016 at 7:58 pm

    3isacharm a lot of children at my daughter’s daycare go to owen and the parents love it and the growth has been not reading at the beginning and being at 3rd grade level at the end of kindy. they have a lot of activities and parents are engaged.

  • 519. Jen  |  April 4, 2016 at 8:02 pm

    @514, was that the year the ISAT’s changed their cut off score? I think it was, and if so, nearly every school dropped very significantly because the cut off scores were raised so drastically.

  • 520. 3isacharm  |  April 4, 2016 at 8:10 pm

    Selena King thanks for info. It looks great on paper.Do alot of local kids attend? We live in Beverly so it’s a bit of a distance.Do they have after care?

  • 521. Selena King  |  April 4, 2016 at 8:22 pm

    i know a couple of them do the park district for afterschool and a few of the kids go to the daycare for afterschool and they pick up and drop off. i think it is a mixture and the parents really love it they are hoping my daughter gets off of the waitlist so she can go there but i don’t think it is hopeful.

  • 522. JMOChicago  |  April 4, 2016 at 8:24 pm

    @wp, yes, the cut scores were changed between 2012 and 2013 to align with Common Core standards. Looking at school data, it is not unusual to see a drop in scores between those years for any Illinois school.

  • 523. Rose  |  April 4, 2016 at 8:30 pm

    368 we were #11 at Edgebrook for k last year and they called me on a Sunday afternoon a week after school started. I passed because we accepted a we offer at D2. From what the office told me they don’t call off the wait until after school starts because they have so many neighborhood kids and hey have kids who register very late.

  • 524. Rose  |  April 4, 2016 at 8:41 pm

    415- Katie
    I was number 3 tier 4 wait list at D2 2 years ago for K. I think you have good odds. Hang in there. I received my call mid May. Good luck!

  • 525. 3isacharm  |  April 4, 2016 at 8:48 pm

    We are #2 for third. Do you think it will move? I heard they move according to childs level in reading & math.Do most kids bus in? What grade are you waiting for?

  • 526. Oscar Mayer Dad  |  April 4, 2016 at 8:49 pm

    Well I just got an email that explains LaSalle:

    “Dear parent or gaurdian of ********,

    According to our records, your child received an offer for LaSalle Magnet School for the 2016-2017 school year. Unfortunately, due to an error in assigning transfer students to LaSalle, CPS discovered that LaSalle does not have enough available seats for the number of offers that were made. As a result of this error, your child’s status for LaSalle has changed.

    Your child’s updated status for LaSalle is: wait listed

    I am deeply sorry to have to inform you of this change. The application and enrollment process is an emotional time for many families, and I want to assure you that we will work individually with your family to make sure you understand your options.

    In the next 24 hours, you can expect a phone call from a member of my team to discuss those options, and what works best for you and your child.”

  • 527. 2th_grade_mom  |  April 4, 2016 at 9:06 pm

    I got an emails from CPS regarding the waiting list for LaSalle. The waiting list for applying 3rd grade got increased by 60!!

  • 528. Selena King  |  April 4, 2016 at 9:09 pm

    3isacharm i think you are good to go because i know a atleast one person that is turning down owen in your same tier. we are tier 4 and #16 i don’t think it is moving that much for us. i don’t know if it is a lot of bused students but i will ask, her pre-school teacher son goes there and we have been talking about this non-stop. we are #1 for kershaw and i am hoping that happens.

  • 529. Selena King  |  April 4, 2016 at 9:11 pm

    we are going to kindy by the way

  • 530. mrssilencedogood75  |  April 4, 2016 at 9:19 pm

    I’m completely and utterly floored by the Lasalle letter. While it seemed strange to see so many offers for upper entry grades, I never imagined CPS could be *that* incompetent. Apparently, it is.

  • 531. LaSalle, that's just wrong!  |  April 4, 2016 at 9:25 pm

    @526, That’s just so wrong. I got the same letter too. But my waitlist number was a impossible number anyway. What if some one got an offer and received a letter like this. That’s devastated!!! No faith in CPS magnet lottery system anymore!!! It’s so corrupted!

  • 532. Happyhappy  |  April 4, 2016 at 9:40 pm

    We just received the same LaSalle e-mail – we had an offer for a 4th Grade place at LaSalle and were over the moon. I am devastated. And drowning my sorrows in red wine.

  • 533. an upset mom  |  April 4, 2016 at 9:43 pm

    @526 – Oscar Mayer Dad
    i got the same letter as regards to Lasalle, with the same waitlist number (45). Looks like that there is more mistakes than this. 😦

  • 534. Another Soon to Be Former Ogden Family  |  April 4, 2016 at 9:44 pm

    Well, we would be one of those families with rescinded offers.

  • 535. Jaysmom  |  April 4, 2016 at 9:51 pm

    @3 is a charm, I have some information on Owen. My son along with 4 of his current pre-k classmates will be attending in the fall. I have a few friends who have children that attend now. Most people use Chicago Park District for after care. They pay a transportation service weekly to take them from school to.the park. Everyone that I have spoken with had positive things to say about the school.

  • 536. MomO'Twins  |  April 4, 2016 at 9:51 pm

    LaSalle parent weighing in although it looks like it might be moot if there was an error at CPS regarding the letters.

    A-re: principal. Last one retired last year after securing a national blue ribbon. She did great work if a little prickly with parents. New one comes from Hawthorne and has already made meaningful advances at all grade levels. She seems to have the trust of the teachers and most parents find her to be receptive (a big change from before).

    B – class size. Typical 32-34 in K with extra floaters being allocated for the early grades. Given the language focus beginning in K it’s hard to add students after 6th but we lose a lot to Academic Centers in 7th. Prob a good reflection on the quality of the teaching.

    I’m trying to be objective to be helpful but I am a HUGE fan of both the teachers that have been actively “curated” over the past few years and the new principal. There are only 2 classes per grade so if you don’t like something, you can get involved and weigh in on the issue. Very strong LSC and active Friends Of with a wide diversity (ethnically, economically, geographically) that is embraced.

    Hope that helps.

  • 537. Oscar Mayer Dad  |  April 4, 2016 at 9:52 pm

    I would imagine that every offer for LaSalle that was not for kindergarten was a mistake. Spots that come open there in higher grades get scooped up by siblings.

    I feel for everyone who got gut-punched by this news. I put in for the magnet lottery when we were at our old school, before Xmas. We’re so happy here at OM that we decided last night we wouldn’t take the (now imaginary) spot at LaSalle anyway. But I know for a lot of people getting that offer was the answer to their prayers, only to have it ripped away.

  • 538. Decisions Decisions  |  April 4, 2016 at 9:55 pm

    Is there anyone in tier 2 who plans to give up your seat at Sheridan?

  • 539. An upset mom  |  April 4, 2016 at 9:57 pm

    @526 – Oscar Mayer Dad. I thought we are applying for the same grade. That is why it doesn’t make sense to have the same wait list number. It looks like that you are applying for 2nd grade and we are 1st grade. Make perfect sense now!

  • 540. STEM hopeful  |  April 4, 2016 at 10:05 pm

    Proximity #8 for Kindergarten for STEM. Do you think we will have any chance?

  • 541. Tracey J  |  April 4, 2016 at 10:15 pm


    I have an update on Owen. The feedback is very strong. Here is what my friend stated:

    – Small and very clean school.
    – Safe inside and outside of the school.
    – 1 class per grade level. Except 7th grade (there are 2).
    – Strong P and AP.
    – Rigorous curriculum w/strong emphasis on reading and writing.
    – Strong PTO.
    – Very family oriented. Always activities going on and strong parent involvement.
    – School has held level 1 status for some time.
    – Teachers are open, available and accessible.
    – They lost their language program (language focus was Spanish)
    – No after school program at the school.
    – Transportation for those living within a 1.5 mile radius.

    If you got a seat, consider taking it. Hope this helps.

  • 542. Benita Jorge  |  April 4, 2016 at 10:31 pm

    @488 JAG Thanks for the info on O. Thorp. My youngest got in for Kindergarten next fall but my first grader did not. She is wait listed 148. So my girls will be attending 2 different schools. I am glad to hear that my 5 year old will have after school options since dropping off and picking up at 2 different schools is gonna be fun…yay!!!!! what are there office hours for Thorp and do the kids were uniforms? Any responses on O. Thorp is greatly appreciated. I also got the email on Lasalle my daughter moved from 66 to 127…..yep.

  • 543. Susan  |  April 4, 2016 at 10:33 pm

    Hi Budlong 3. My daughter is in kindergarten now at Solomon. I really am so impressed with this little school. It is true that the kindergarten class was way too big this year. I was very concerned about this at the beginning of the school year, but over time I have observed (through volunteering in the classroom) that the teacher really has a handle on the group. She is a great teacher with such a calm and open energy. My very sensitive daughter has responded really well to her. Even this large group did not seem like chaos (at least not during my time there). The classroom is pretty big so it doesn’t feel terribly crowded either. In the beginning I was really worried that she wouldn’t get much 1:1 time, but it seems she gets the help she needs and is learning so much. The principal has been very transparent about the class size and explained during the first week… they offered lottery spots last year based on historically low utilization by neighborhood families, but this year the neighborhood enrollment shot up and they ended up overcrowded. I think they will make fewer lottery offers this year to account for these changes. All the parents I have met with older children and some of the teachers have discussed how surprised they were that kindergarten was so big, so I really don’t think this is the norm at Solomon. The large class (and for me, the commute) have truly been the only negatives for us.

  • 544. SS  |  April 4, 2016 at 10:50 pm

    @Jen K- Thx for info, called D2 this AM and was told they don’t know of anyone not returning for 1st grade, so waiting list number of 6 is close to zero chance.

    For 1st grade in general, is it pretty much a given you won’t get in from the waiting list for most magnets?

    Particularly interested in:
    D2 – feedback given

  • 545. Madrox  |  April 4, 2016 at 11:22 pm

    Midway Area Resident here
    Tier 3

    School offered = Sheridan (will accept for now)

    Waiting listed for:
    Ward – #18
    Newberry – #36
    Jackson – #175
    Lasalle – #288 (ouch)
    Drummond – #104

  • 546. Stem parent  |  April 5, 2016 at 12:01 am

    I feel terrible for anyone who wanted that LaSalle spot. We went from an offer to waitlist 53. That means they offered at least 53 first grade spots. How? As if this process is not hard enough.

  • 547. cpswonderland  |  April 5, 2016 at 12:06 am

    This is pretty bad. Not only that people in CPS OAE are incompetent to mail the SEES letters on time, they have to reschedule mailing them two times and still to succeed that huge number of families don’t get their letter(s) by today. I’m wondering if the letter for my future kindergartener was ever mailed to me. Now I find out that they managed to make the mistake and assign the nonexistent Lasalle seats to families that expect all this “lottery” system to be random. Who can guarantee me there’s randomness in this process? I’m thinking that its highly possible that someone sitting in the OAE office “takes” few good spots for family-and-friends from time to time. Apparently, if they get caught, they can always say there was mistake in the system and there’s no way to prove anything due to “randomness” of the system. And computerised systems don’t make mistakes, people do. I expect someone will loose the job for playing with the emotions of many families.

  • 548. Kristine  |  April 5, 2016 at 12:06 am

    We received an acceptance letter via email last March 28, 2016. My son got a spot at Skinner North. Can anyone share recent experience of their kid being in this school given current plight of CPS. I need to decide if staying in Chicago for this school is worth it.

  • 549. 3isacharm  |  April 5, 2016 at 6:25 am

    Jaysmom thanks for info about aftercare.And congrats on your kindergarten spot. I’m going to definitely check it out.Have you toured or gone to open house? It sounds like you spoken to lots of parents.It’s sounds like theres alot of diversity.Do you any info on the k teacher or 3.Thanks a bunch

  • 550. LSmom  |  April 5, 2016 at 6:50 am

    @Kristine, search the 2016 SEES thread, there’s been a lot of Skinner North discussion there.

  • 551. 3isacharm  |  April 5, 2016 at 7:10 am

    Tracey J u rock! This information you just can’t get online.We will definitely consider!Sounds to good to be true.Thank you thank you

  • 552. Oscar Mayer Dad  |  April 5, 2016 at 7:49 am

    @546 Stem parent

    I’m assuming what happened is that the higher grades got assigned spots as if they were Kindergarten, meaning they offered 60+ spots like those grades had no students at all.

    I’d hate to be the poor lower-lever staffers at OAE who got assigned to call those families in the next day or two.

  • 553. 3isacharm  |  April 5, 2016 at 8:52 am

    Selena King best of luck.This is a awful proccess.I know nothing about kenshaw.Were at a magnet now and my son loves it.His only complaint is it to loud.But he has 2 other little brother I have to consider to.I wish I was more on the ball at the kindergarten level..I had no clue how difficult this process is to maneuver.At least were eligible for bus.If you are 1.5 on the dot no bus! But there might not be $ for that next year any way. Thanks Again

  • 554. TAMMY  |  April 5, 2016 at 9:05 am

    We RECEIVED an offer from Laslle Lanquage Acedemy but last night I received an Emil stating that they made a mistake/ It was an error in the system and, that we would receive a call within 48 hours. How disappointing!! Has anyone else received this from Lasalle???

  • 555. For @TAMMY  |  April 5, 2016 at 9:14 am

    This happened to many people. Seems it was a big mistake that affected many.

  • 556. Tammy Evans  |  April 5, 2016 at 9:21 am

    I am so angry. We were looking forward to a spot at LaSalle, but according to an email we RECEIVED last night they had to take back their offer because of a mistake!!!
    They have some serious explaining to do!!!

  • 557. 2nd time around  |  April 5, 2016 at 9:26 am

    @554 Many people received an offer incorrectly. It is unacceptable.

  • 558. AnotherThorpMom  |  April 5, 2016 at 9:29 am

    @ 542. Benita Jorge
    We’ve been at Thorp for 3 years and my younger will start K this fall. School hours are from 7:45-2:45. I’m not sure what time the office opens but I think it closes about 4. No uniforms. I believe before care is available starting at 7AM (but ask to be sure). The YMCA has run aftercare on-site the past three years but the school is planning to run their own starting this fall. The school has an active Friends of Group you can find online and on Facebook. Mr Toledo, staff, and parents are great. We’ve enjoyed our experience at the school.

  • 559. logansquaremomof2  |  April 5, 2016 at 9:35 am

    No sees letter yet. Lottery letter arrived Friday.
    Goethe and Brentano are in our neighbourhood so we wil likely accept one of these but waiting until we hear from sees before deciding.

    Wait list: (tier 3)
    Pulaski 57
    Moos 32
    Hamilton 360
    Disney 2 11 any chance of a summer call on this one??
    LA Salle 2 93
    Sabin 8
    Pritzker 38 he’s at pritzker pre-k so this was our first choice, any chance of an offer from this list?
    Burr 210
    Blaine 5 anyone know how much Blaine wait list moves?
    Burley 268
    Pierce 161
    Ravenswood 265
    Agassiz 111
    Audubon 279
    Darwin 13
    Drummond 199
    Coonley 169

  • 560. JB  |  April 5, 2016 at 9:38 am

    For parents looking for feedback on STEM. Our son was accepted off the waitlist for Kinder (#7) after the strike in 2012. He is in 3rd right now and has done really well. Every teacher does a great job at differentiating and keeping the kids challenged. There are some definite drawbacks as well though, mostly in the administration. And there is a fair bit of turnover among the teachers. They have a wonderful after school program, which our son has attended for 3 years. We tested into Skinner West and are #1 at LaSalle for next year. It’s a tough decision mostly due to the curriculum at STEM. Unfortunately they lost both their science and engineering teachers last year and had to combine the classes, which diminishes the full STEM curriculum. We are looking elsewhere due to our concerns about the administration and turnover. There is a long thread about STEM on here, but take the comments with a grain of salt – there are very strong opinions on both sides. Good luck!

  • 561. Cintia  |  April 5, 2016 at 9:43 am

    This Lasalle mistake is clearly a big problem. I’d be surprised if they don’t get sued.
    All those parents with spots should get private school tuition paid for by CPS for their mistake and their crappy letter about how they understand “how emotional” this process can be!

  • 562. SO Fed Up  |  April 5, 2016 at 9:51 am

    My child’s Lasalle offer was rescinded also.
    I’m ASTOUNDED at the incompetency of CPS. I want a personal apology to my kid from Claypool. The domino effect of this kind of SNAFU requires more than an email and a call from some Central Office lackey (who by the way left a voicemail referring to another child’s name – who does not belong to me). What a profoundly broken system ;-(
    I’ve seen a lot of incompetence in our decade in CPS, but this is the proverbial straw.

  • 563. AJM0826  |  April 5, 2016 at 9:54 am

    @543 Susan, Thanks for the insight on Solomon. We received offer for KG and will accept. Can any others offer any input on Solomon?

  • 564. Stem parent  |  April 5, 2016 at 9:56 am

    @Oscar mayer dad. You are right. I would not want that job either. I wonder if those phone calls will include improved waitlisted numbers for your preferred school. Not fair to the people with low#s but something for the people who lost an offer. Not sure why else they would call people.

  • 565. JAG  |  April 5, 2016 at 9:57 am

    @ 542 Benita George, you should be able to get your other child into Thorp next year through the sibling lottery.

  • 566. One and Only  |  April 5, 2016 at 10:00 am

    I feel so bad for all of you who got Lasalle offers only to have them rescinded! We got moved down in the wait list but we were already in the 200s and are happy at our current school, so it’s no big deal to us. I can’t imagine how disappointed everyone is! I’m guessing, based on the delayed letters and this mess that OAE staff was gutted during the lay offs and they just didn’t have the staff they needed to handle this. It all comes full circle back to the need for a more sustainable funding system for public education.

  • 567. suderfamily  |  April 5, 2016 at 10:05 am

    @266 – My son was on waiting list #7 at Suder Tier 3 last year and we got a call during May. The school has total of 4 class of pre-k. pre-k3, pre-k4 and Kindergarten are combined classes, each group hold 10 students. So it’s about 40 spots they are offering. Good Luck!

  • 568. jajo  |  April 5, 2016 at 10:09 am

    @suderfamily what grade was your son last year? I am pretty high up on tier 3, trying to figure out if we have hope. from the looks of it we might..we are looking for pk 23

  • 569. Budlong3  |  April 5, 2016 at 10:18 am

    @543 Susan, thank you! That’s very helpful to know. I wonder how many offers Solomon extended for Kdg this year. Am going to set up a tour asap.

  • 570. Candice Warltier  |  April 5, 2016 at 10:31 am

    Yes, I received the same letter from LaSalle. Very disappointing…not sure if they were careless or if it was a computer error. Very big mistake.

  • 571. 136  |  April 5, 2016 at 10:45 am

    Based on what everyone has said, it seems pretty likely that OAE “forgot” to enter the current students as spots taken. All waitlist and acceptance numbers I have seen have been moved by 58-60 spots … there are 60 kids in a grade.

  • 572. Feeling Inside Out  |  April 5, 2016 at 10:46 am

    I am yet another disappointed, angry, confused, etc. parent of a child’s offer rescinded from LaSalle. He is now wait listed at #24. How could such incompetency occur at CPS? Is this what I can expect of what’s to come? Does anyone know how the list moves at LaSalle?

    He has another offer at Talcott but truth be told I feel weary due to what just happened. Does anyone have experience with Talcott? It doesn’t say much on their website other than mention their partnerships with the different museums and they offer a dual language program. Any input would be greatly appreciated!

    We are also wait listed for Drummond at #14 on the general list. Has anyone has ever been on the general list around this number and received a call? I know the classrooms are limited and there is a high demand for montessori so just curious as to what the chances could be.

    *** Just received the call from CPS which is a load of crap! Basically I was just told sorry because it’s better to hear a live person say that than an email!!! I was explained that the current wait list number was his number all along and not drawn from some new lottery which was part of my confusion. They have no idea how it happened either… Shouldn’t we now be given some sort of priority in the future for the enormous mistake??? ***

  • 573. Kellyclaw  |  April 5, 2016 at 10:50 am

    Tier 3 Pre-K

    Drummond 10
    Suder 39

    What are the chances of Drummond and Suder?

  • 574. Tammy  |  April 5, 2016 at 11:12 am

    Our Family is very disappointed about LaSalle, but we are choosing to adopt the mind set that our 8 year old has. He looks at us and says Mom / Dad mistakes happen. Maybe I was not meant to go to LaSalle.! WE WERE REALLY ROOTING FOR NEWBERRY( which we are #9).
    He then reminds me to go to my “Happy Place
    So, that is where I am going to reside!

  • 575. Julia  |  April 5, 2016 at 11:17 am

    Tammy, your kid sounds awesome.

  • 576. 136  |  April 5, 2016 at 11:19 am

    also pretty awesome that they can find it in their capacity to email when results are off, but not to give lottery results

  • 577. Marketing Mom  |  April 5, 2016 at 11:24 am

    Someone should alert the media of the LaSalle mishap. That would be the only way to get real answers.

  • 578. Tammy Evans  |  April 5, 2016 at 11:25 am

    Thanks. Yes, he made our day. Out of the mouths of babes!!!!!!! It looks like I am the student today.
    Thanks for your response!!!

  • 579. Selena King  |  April 5, 2016 at 11:26 am

    3isacharm is it a crazy process. I accepted an offer and the school has already setup a tour so I am good with that but I would accept Kershaw over that over because of transportation and after school options.

  • 580. suderfamily  |  April 5, 2016 at 11:27 am

    @568 my son was entering pre-k 3 last year. Good Luck!

  • 581. suderfamily  |  April 5, 2016 at 11:31 am

    @Kellyclaw – you can see my post #567 for Suder

  • 582. Tammy Evans  |  April 5, 2016 at 11:44 am

    Question?? Does anyone have a child at NEWBERRY (or) PRITZKER? If so, would you share your experience? It would be much appreciated.

  • 583. One and Only  |  April 5, 2016 at 11:45 am

    @Tammy Evans – that is awesome! What a wise boy you have!

  • 584. Hopeful  |  April 5, 2016 at 12:44 pm

    My daughter is #1 on proximity list at Hawthorne. It sounds like very few spots become available as it is a very desirable school. I would love feedback on what people think her chances are.


  • 585. Lisajo  |  April 5, 2016 at 1:03 pm

    rewing123 – Hamilton’s principal emailed me and said “We are examining our gifted program right now and may make changes to it, but there are some unknowns right now. We do have more than 90 kids in K-5 scoring above the 90th percentile on CPS standardized testing..” Taking the tour tomorrow, so hope to find out more.

  • 586. parent  |  April 5, 2016 at 1:20 pm

    Anyone who has received their magnet letter but is still waiting on an SEES letter needs to contact OAE. Seems like a pretty big error was made — lots of letters didn’t go out. You can go down and pick up your letter in person, or they will email it to you. But, if you choose email, they say it may take up to 2 days! (because of the huge volume they are dealing with).

  • 587. cojochicago  |  April 5, 2016 at 1:32 pm

    Entering K

    Galileo #5 Tier 3
    STEM #27 Tier 3
    Sheridan #157 Proximity

    Need some feedback on GALILEO! We’ve already missed all their open houses. I’ve seen a lot about STEM already and I don’t think I stand a chance at Sheridan, though I would of given anything to get my son in there. TIA!

  • 588. logansquaremomof2  |  April 5, 2016 at 1:40 pm

    I tried to call this morning about the sees letter. Was on hold for 40 minutes when the line disconnected. I’ll have to wait 48 hours for an email since I can’t take time off work to go downtown 😦

  • 589. Momof3  |  April 5, 2016 at 1:59 pm

    I received 2 acceptance letters to LaSalle for my kids. I took them to the school yesterday. This morning I got the email recinding both and we are now on the waiting list #51 & #52. I’m furious, upset, sad…I was told there was a 2nd lottery which is why my waitlist # was 51 & 52. Seems like we are getting 2 different stories. I just contacted channel 5…I need answers.

  • 590. MomofTwo  |  April 5, 2016 at 2:12 pm

    @589, I was told by CPS that there was an error. Instead of putting in the number of available spots, someone input the total number of spots per class. Sixty four offers went out per grade – equivalent to an entire new school. I called CPS OAE after they left a message following up on an email rescinding the offer. They have now moved everyone back to what was supposedly the accurate waitlist numbers.
    I did not hear anything about a second lottery. Where did you hear that?
    I am with you about the need for answers.

  • 591. The Widow's Web  |  April 5, 2016 at 2:15 pm

    @590 I spoke with someone at the OES office who told me that…but like I said I’ve been getting double talk all morning. First they told me one child was accepted, then both weren’t accepted and back on the waiting list…this is absolutely ridiculous! I can’t believe the level of incompetence…un real…

  • 592. hwthne_parent  |  April 5, 2016 at 2:22 pm

    @584: I think the odds are pretty good. Not a 100% sure thing, but I’ve heard of Hawthorne waitlists moving 1-2 spots every year. It is a fantastic program. My kid entered K last year, started out super shy and socially awkward, and didn’t really go in with exceptional reading and writing skills (no. 2 kid syndrome – you’re always easier on them!). It’s not even the end of the academic year and she’s made huge strides in both areas and has really come into her own. I’ll say this for the Hawthorne program — they really know how to reach the kids and encourage them to excel and be independent learners. My kindergartner now reads at an advanced level (reaching 2nd grade level books), and has told me that some of her classmates are reading at 4th and 5th grade levels! There’s definitely differentiation going on for the more advanced kids from what I see, and the vibe is that of a challenging but also nurturing environment. Our older kid is currently in an SEES program and we are contemplating taking a spot should one come available. A #2 spot on a sibling waitlist doesn’t seem so bad — we’ll see how it goes. Good luck!

  • 593. Drida  |  April 5, 2016 at 2:35 pm


    My son is in kindergarten at Hawthorne. I can’t rate the school highly enough. Like you, we really “won the lottery” last year. Both K teachers are amazing, the principal is very professional and business-minded while super warm and fun for the kids, the families are very focused on their kids’ education… Take the offer. I promise you won’t regret it. I would never imagine my son could have learned so much in three quarters, while enjoying himsef so much!

    Regarding being bilingual, there is Spanish in after school care for a fee. Nothing like Interamerican, but it’s an option.

  • 594. hopeful  |  April 5, 2016 at 2:52 pm

    @592 thanks for the feedback. Good luck to you as well!

  • 595. Solomon  |  April 5, 2016 at 3:34 pm

    @563 and @569 – I’m another Solomon parent and echo the positive feedback posted here. We have a first grader at the school and we’ve been very happy. They’re doing a lot of great things for such a small school. The first grade class is 27 kids, so I think the large K class is an anomaly, but worth asking about. We’re still in the early grades, but my sense is that there is a healthy focus on academics with a balanced approach (they have a music program, no art teacher but have found ways to bring art in as well as other programs like dance, drama). The principal is new this year and seems to be a good fit for the school. He’s very friendly and accessible and seems interested in getting to know the community. It’s a small school – under 400 kids and one class per grade – which for us is great but I’d say the pros and cons of a small school depend a lot on your kid’s personality. I can try to answer more specific questions if you have them, but I recommend setting up a tour.

  • 596. 2ndtimesAcharm  |  April 5, 2016 at 3:37 pm

    I have a kindergartener who is leaving Beaubien for first grade to go to Pritzker, so a first grade spot will open up.

  • 597. HSObsessed  |  April 5, 2016 at 3:46 pm

    @577 – DNA Info has posted an article on the LaSalle Language Academy mishap:


  • 598. Budlong3  |  April 5, 2016 at 3:48 pm

    @595 Solomon, thank you very much. We have a tour set up next week. Excited to see the school. The small-school environment is very appealing to me and I think a good fit for our son. Can you comment on the amount of homework there has been in the early grades?

  • 599. ProspectiveDisneyParent  |  April 5, 2016 at 3:58 pm

    Does anyone have any experience with Disney? I’m trying to decide whether or not to accept their offer for my daughter who will be entering Kindergarten in the fall.

  • 600. BSP in OIP  |  April 5, 2016 at 3:58 pm

    Hello all…. First time caller here trying to navigate the CPS landscape … thanks to all that have provided info here – its very helpful!!!

    Have a daughter going into K

    No SEES offer – tested too low
    Tested 135
    bombed the clasical scores: Reading 79/Math 88

    Waitlisted for everything we applied to:

    Only chnce we have is:
    Wildwood – genreal – #18
    Thorp O – Tier 3 – #13
    Stone – Tier 3 – #43

    everything else in the 100+

    praying that I see some movemnt for Thorp – but also not holding my breath…. might be putting up the for sale sign soon,… sad…. not ready to leave…

  • 601. concerned HP parent  |  April 5, 2016 at 4:20 pm

    I am so devastated to be offered a slot in Lasalle Language Academy, only for it to be rescinded upon acceptance. . This is unacceptable! What level of incompetence had to be present for something like this to happen? I am taking this further,. Would any parents be interested in coming together for a class action suit against CPS, specifically the access and enrollment department? This merits more than a meager “sorry”…..

  • 602. concerned HP parent  |  April 5, 2016 at 4:30 pm


  • 603. JMOChicago  |  April 5, 2016 at 4:31 pm

    A Class Action Lawsuit for this? After ~50 schools were CLOSED in 2012-2013? If there was no room for you at your neighborhood school or current school, that might have merit.

    It is disappointing. It is inconvenient. It is upsetting. It is most likely the result of deep cuts in Central Office staff. But this is also not the first time that parents or teachers have had offers rescinded, promises broken, and more from CPS.

    If we had equitable and full funding for all neighborhood schools in Chicago, these issues would likely be moot. Fight for that.

  • 604. Confused again  |  April 5, 2016 at 4:32 pm

    Any feedback on Lenart? Entering for KinderGarten.

  • 605. Sigh  |  April 5, 2016 at 4:57 pm

    The Lasalle fiasco is a big error and makes CPS look stupid, but everyone should relax a little. Two people have posted about suing CPS over this. Really? Over a clerical error that was quickly corrected?

  • 606. ChicagoMama  |  April 5, 2016 at 5:13 pm

    I can’t imagine wasting time filing a lawsuit over something like this. What sort of remedy would you ask for? To screw over some other family in Chicago? I’d work on alternate plans.

    People make mistakes. It totally, totally sucks. I’m sorry.

    But a lawsuit?

  • 607. Solomon  |  April 5, 2016 at 5:13 pm

    @598 Budlong3 – No homework in K except for read with your child every night (which if this is part of your routine already it feels like no homework). First grade – a small packet of reading activity worksheets they get on Monday and need to turn in Friday, spelling list each week with some activities to help study (there are two lists – one more challenging – kids test Monday to determine the list they work on for the week and then do the final test Friday), usually a math worksheet each night, and there have been some fun, creative projects throughout the year (one where kids create a presentation on something they really like, a project on U.S. presidents, holiday traditions). Continued emphasis on reading outside of school (they have reading groups in school too that are differentiated based on level) and kids track how much they read each month. As far as how many minutes this averages out to each night, it depends a lot on your child. I don’t feel like it’s burdensome and the teacher is sensitive to parent concerns about homework.

  • 608. Agutfeelingaboutthisone  |  April 5, 2016 at 5:25 pm

    So are there any CPS parents out there that took a gamble on a “up and coming” neighborhood school? Maybe the test scores weren’t quite there, maybe the diversity wasn’t quite there? But a gut feeling was there? The gut feeling was present because you saw a strong administration wanting to implement both big and small changes to make the school great!

    Thoughts? Stories?

  • 609. AK  |  April 5, 2016 at 5:32 pm

    I have/had a gut feeling about our neighborhood school. It *seems* like it is going in the right direction and I really liked the principal. Ultimately, we decided to go to catholic school for K, but it was a really tough choice. Were we not able to afford the local parish school, I would have been confident with him in the local neighborhood school, at least for K. I am definitely going to keep an eye on our local school and see how it goes in the future.

  • 610. Agutfeelingaboutthisone  |  April 5, 2016 at 5:38 pm

    thanks @AK!

  • 611. TryingToFigureItAllOut  |  April 5, 2016 at 5:49 pm

    Does anyone have experience in upper grades at Brentano? Say, 4th grade or up (or really anything higher than pre-K or K)? I do see this as a viable “up and coming” option, however I’m wondering what the non-K feel currently is like. Would there be a big disparity in experience for a multi-grade family? I am very encouraged with the new principal, but would love to know if there is an “old” versus “new” feel depending on upper grades versus lower grades. Ideally, my hope would be that the entire school is benefiting from the renewed focus to this school as a viable option.

  • 612. drummond parent  |  April 5, 2016 at 6:31 pm

    @608 12 years ago I took a gamble at Drummond. There was no public Montessori yet, the principal had been there for decades, test scores were in the 40th percentile. Teachers were undergoing training, but not all were Montessori certified. We met with the Montessori Director (who later became the principal) and had a gut feeling. Best decision we ever made. We’ve been there through lots of changes and are still happy.

  • 613. Tammy Evans  |  April 5, 2016 at 7:06 pm

    Yes. I am one of the PARENTS who is willing to give our neighborhood school a try. Not the greatest of schools’ but the leadership there is strong. YES, I AM ALSO ONE OF THOSE PARENTS WHO RECEIVED AN ACCEPTANCE LETTER FROM LASALLE BUT SOON REALIZED THAT WE WERE REALLY NOT ACCEPTED! SHOCKED and DISAPPOINTED WE WERE. BUT AS I SHARED EARLIER, MY 8 YEAR OLD SPOKE WISE WISDOM’ to HIS DAD AND I – He TOLD US MISTAKES HAPPEN AND SUGGESTED THAT WE GO TO OUR HAPPY PLACE’! On the walk home from school my 8 year old and I decided that we will give our neighborhood school a try and we are settled with that! He also shared with me that he really did not feel that LaSalle was a good fit for him!!! I LOOKED AT MY Cameron WITH A GREAT SENSE OF LOVE AND ADMIRATION!!

  • 614. Near South Sider  |  April 5, 2016 at 7:17 pm

    I wouldn’t say I took a *gamble*, but I was interested in NTA a few years ago when the school had a rating of a 2+ and the scores were not great. The RGC had not started, and the school was really not on anyone’s radar. I visited and was really impressed. And it wasn’t just the facilities that impressed me (although that helped!). Everyone, from the principal down to all the staff members, seemed happy to be there. They were proud of their school, and it showed.

    The school was something like 90% African American and low income at the time. As a middle class black family, those stats didn’t bother me, although I know they might make others more wary. I saw happy, well-behaved kids who clearly loved their school, and I’m happy to say that my kid is now one of them (and my kid is not in the RGC program).

  • 615. PortageParkmom  |  April 5, 2016 at 8:24 pm

    My son will be in K this fall. …he received no offers and his best lottery numbers are:

    Audubon general 2
    Norwood Park general 10
    Disney ll proximity 11

    Disney is the closest and the #1 choice. ..I am torn between Norwood Park and Audubon…they are almost equally far from us…have heard good things about Audubon but know nothing about Norwood Park…any insider info about those 2 schools?

  • 616. Mom-of-2  |  April 5, 2016 at 8:54 pm

    Can anyone give any feedback on Jahn, Salazar and Prescott. We have offers at all 3 for Kindergarten. Thanks!

  • 617. Kp  |  April 5, 2016 at 8:59 pm

    Concerned HP parent….and that money would come from where?

  • 618. Apmommy  |  April 5, 2016 at 9:24 pm

    You all work fast! I’m watching the news and the lasalle fiasco is all over the place…lol 😂😂😂

  • 619. NWside  |  April 5, 2016 at 9:47 pm

    @615, I know several families at Norwood. It’s a good school, small class size. After care is at the leaning tower Y on Touhy which isn’t ideal for some people. Sounds like most families are from the NW side so its easy to have playdates, etc. I’m guessing that you’ll get an offer with your #10.

  • 620. LincolnSquareMOM  |  April 5, 2016 at 11:04 pm

    Tribune also covering now: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-schools-retract-competitive-seats-met-20160405-story.html

    This is a new low for CPS. I was not affected by this show of incompetency, but i can imagine the heartbreak that other families are feeling right now and this is unacceptable. i would urge all people that feel strongly about this to contact Kathryn Ellis @OAE at oae@cps.edu to know from CPS who they are holding accountable for this and demand that they publicly announce their plans for change to ensure this mistake never happens again. Also contact your alderman and express your disappointment and ask them to demand some accountability from this. nothing will happen if the public does not band together and demand something better from CPS. let’s not accept this as just another cps mistake

  • 621. arthistorynerd  |  April 5, 2016 at 11:58 pm

    My son was offered K spots at Stone and in the gifted program at Pritzker. Having a hard time comparing the two. Any insights would be greatly appreciated.

  • 622. cpsobsessed  |  April 6, 2016 at 12:09 am

    @608, We took a gamble on Coonley 8 years ago, the first year they added the options program. The PTO was 2 parents, fundraising was just getting started, the school had been on the verge of closing for low attendance and the playground was a small cement lot.

    But the principal was very impressive and welcoming. Many parents turned down options spots that year. Those of us who took a chance on the school were still high-fiving each other a few years later for our good fortune as the school quickly blossomed once it had some critical mass.

    I’ve seen the same happen at Nettelhorst, Waters, Pierce, Prescott… so many elementary schools.

    Ideally a smart, strategic principal can inspire local parents to get involved, which is another important element in a school. Sometimes you have to be one of those pioneering families who help make the change happen. But if you have the time, it can be very rewarding and a good social outlet as well. It’s a great way to meet your neighbors.

  • 623. cpsobsessed  |  April 6, 2016 at 12:15 am

    About Disney (someone asked above) based on annual comments here, families appear to continue to be very happy with Disney and kids seem to be well challenged in their internal gifted/accelerated classes.


    This short WTTW digital series features a very intelligent kid who attends Disney.

    However like every school I think it has a unique personality, so likely worth a visit if you haven’t been there.

  • 624. AF at CPS  |  April 6, 2016 at 6:10 am

    The disgust and anger should NOT be about a clerical mistake. Your anger should be fueled by the fact that you even have to participate in such a farce.

    Parents contemplating lawsuits are part of the reason that the “hunger games” culture will continue to thrive.

  • 625. lasalle  |  April 6, 2016 at 6:40 am

    While I find OAE’s mistake to be egregious, a lawsuit is excessive. However, I do agree with @620 that this huge mistake calls for the office to publicly apologize and take the steps necessary to ensure this never happens again. Blaming it on staff cuts/furlough days/teacher strike are unacceptable. Knowing that the entire system is computerized, someone made a clerical mistake and then no one reviewed the results. Plain and simple. It should have been clear as day that a mistake had been made when so many offers for Lasalle appeared.

  • 626. Agutfeelingaboutthisone  |  April 6, 2016 at 7:47 am

    Thank you so much for sharing your inspirating stories
    @drummond parent, @Tammy Evans, @Near South Sider and @cps obsessed.

    The schools that you took gambles on are now coveted schools with waitlists that never end. High fives are definitely in order!!

    I am excited by the prospect of being a part of a movement. Taking a leap of faith and taking an active role to help make a school great. It further solidifies my feelings, when I hear from other parents who have “gone before me” and pioneered their way to a fantastic school for their kid!! These stories of success within CPS are great motivators and great reminders that BIG things can happen, despite all the craziness that is CPS.

    I have to add an extra special thanks to cpsobsessed!!!! With this site you have created a lifeline that has helped thousands of families through this crazy process!! Truly, from the bottom of my heart, thank you!!!!

    And Tammy Evans. Your kid sounds so great, he is going to shine, no matter what school he attends!! What a cool thing, to have your eight year old remind you that “maybe Lasalle wasn’t meant to be”. I just love that story!!

  • 627. NearNorthMom  |  April 6, 2016 at 8:23 am

    @625 and LaSalle posters – Maybe all the systemic uncertainty at CPS lead to even more chance that an error would be made. Sometimes it’s less about the people and more about the environment of chaos that’s imposed on these individuals. This year in particular has been a good example of process implementations that lead to consequences. Just an observation that Deming might have shared. Not saying anyone should avoid ownership of this error but making sure ownership of the error is owned by all involved.

  • 628. jordan  |  April 6, 2016 at 8:29 am

    @118, do you think we have a good chance at Disney for 2nd grade General waitlist 121

  • 629. jordan  |  April 6, 2016 at 8:38 am

    @ all Andrew Jackson families on waitlist. I called the school yesterday and they are still waiting on students to return their forms if they are going to re register for the school year. So I see the only hope is for the kindergartners. Any other grades over KG seems to me that every one has waitlist number and she think it may only be a couple open seats if any after parents return their forms. I couldn’t get too much information but wanted to share with families. If anyone already received offer for school congrats for your little ones. I know this process is really stressful for many.

  • 630. chefkimberlyjo  |  April 6, 2016 at 8:54 am

    @599 my son is in second grade at Disney and my daughter will be starting there in kindergarten this fall. For my son, our experience has been great. He is in the gifted track and I am aware that it is a different experience than the regular track.

    One of the things about Disney – because of it’s size and because of the aggressive approach to outside funding – the school is very well supplied. They have teachers for art, music, dance, computer lab, library, etc. When they do their integrated arts unit (2 weeks of the year for each grade) they have more arts & crafts supplies that I have ever seen. Also, each floor has it’s own vice principal, so you have someone to go to if there’s a problem that’s not being resolved. And of course – the teachers!! They are amazing. I volunteer in my son’s class regularly and I every time I’m in the school I know that it’s the right place for us.

    Also, they have tours for prospective students April 11 & 12 at 9AM.

  • 631. Jordan  |  April 6, 2016 at 9:03 am

    Awesome! Do you think I still have hooray waiting list number 121 for second or not a chance

  • 632. jordan  |  April 6, 2016 at 9:35 am

    @152, what does proximity mean in the order of wait list.

  • 633. jordan  |  April 6, 2016 at 9:37 am

    @160, General wait list are they the 1st ones offered open seats.

  • 634. JMOChicago  |  April 6, 2016 at 9:53 am

    For a “lifting of the veil” as to the everyday awesome things going on in CPS schools, you can check out the CPSuccess blog run by Raise Your Hand. It is pretty awesome. http://cpsuccess.tumblr.com/

  • 635. veteran parent  |  April 6, 2016 at 10:03 am

    we chose a neighborhood school, Peirce, 7 years ago…. and it has been the best experience and choice for our family.
    anytime you can choose to stay in your neighborhood, walk to school, learn from a caring faculty, participate in a welcoming school is when you hit the ultimate lottery!
    It’s about making an investment…. easy to miss that part of the equation because of the ‘strike it rich’ lottery attitude (hunger games, i get it)…. but to anyone who believes they can Make the Investment – Do it!
    (to anyone who’s considering a lottery lawsuit this advice won’t sit well with you)
    You are ultimately teaching your kid that they *bring* (attention, respect, friendship, patience, honesty, tenacity, etc.) as much to their education as they *get* (academic skills, social skills, experiences, reflective/critical thinking, etc.) from their education. That’s how we all grow.

    Make the investment!
    Ultimately Peirce provided us more than we can repay.

    ps – This school year our family moved to NY(now my anon is gone 😉 and we’ve landed in a ‘burb that looks nothing like our Chicago experience and guess what?!… the kids are fine! Peirce prepared them exceptionally well! We couldn’t be a more proud Peirce-alumni family.

    pps – to the contrarians – I get it. CPS has much wrong and needs fixing for sure. But your kids grow up fast and sometimes embracing your local, around-the-corner neighborhood school is all you need. There is no greener grass. Just grass.

  • 636. cojochicago  |  April 6, 2016 at 10:04 am

    @ 632 All neighborhood are split into 4 socioeconomic tiers – each school picks equal amount from each tier. Magnets fill siblings first, then they choose 40% from neighborhood radius (Proximity), then the Tiers 1-4. I think General is if anything is left over from that. I’m on a General for one school that is pretty far from my house.

  • 637. Adjourn Ogden  |  April 6, 2016 at 10:04 am

    You: Your honor, Broke CPS made a mistake and then quickly rectified it. But I’m still mad.
    Judge: case dismissed.

  • 638. Shauna  |  April 6, 2016 at 10:05 am

    Hi All! Would love some encouragement about our sad waitlist status….we did not get into any schools and our neighborhood school, Lowell, isn’t necessarily an option.

    Burr #27
    Pritzker #47
    Pulaski #54
    Mitchell #64
    Andrew Jackson #139 (Tier 1)
    LaSalle II #106 (Tier 1)

    Anyone have any insight into Burr? Is #27 possible???
    Thanks so much in advance.

  • 639. Chris  |  April 6, 2016 at 10:07 am

    “Judge: case dismissed.”

    Or: “CPS’s motion for sanctions granted.”

  • 640. KCabral  |  April 6, 2016 at 10:13 am


    To add onto 636/cojochicago’s comments, General waitlists are for neighborhood & magnet *cluster* schools and for schools after their entry year (e.g., for 2d grade).

    For example, all people on the K waitlist for Burr are on 1, general waitlist. There are no tiers. Same if you entered the lottery for Andrew Jackson for 1st grade or later.

  • 641. apmommy  |  April 6, 2016 at 10:18 am

    @631 Thank you for the info on Disney, do you have to call and rsvp for open house or can you just show up? Is there a way to find more information, like place to meet and such? Thanks

  • 642. LSmom  |  April 6, 2016 at 10:25 am

    @Shauna, you’ll almost certainly get into Burr. Take a tour if you can, it’s a great community.

  • 643. Bomie  |  April 6, 2016 at 10:45 am

    @638/Shauna – I believe last year they went into the 60s for waitlist spots, but I can’t remember exactly. They mentioned it may not happen until pretty far into the year though. Email Friends of Burr, and they should have those numbers. I went on a tour, and spoke with one of the parents from Friends of Burr, and it seems like a fantastic option! Good luck.

  • 644. MofK  |  April 6, 2016 at 10:53 am

    For second grade, we have waitlist numbers of #6 at Andrew Jackson and #10 at Hawthorne. Do we have a shot at either one?

  • 645. Shauna  |  April 6, 2016 at 11:00 am

    Thanks so much, Bomie! I already scheduled a tour for next week. It does seem like an awesome community!

  • 646. Jordan  |  April 6, 2016 at 11:25 am

    Oh you have a awesome number for Andrew Jackson wish you luck! I hope at least 6 people decline their spot
    For another school so your baby to get in. I don’t think I have a chance for my son. He is #28 for Andrew Jackson not good for 2nd grade slot because if you think about how all the 1st graders are going over to 2nd grade. The school only have 2 second grade classes. I wish I was in the top 10 waitlist number better chance not #28 and for Disney #121. No luck this time

  • 647. Jordan  |  April 6, 2016 at 11:27 am

    @645 last message from 646

  • 648. Miles Bryan  |  April 6, 2016 at 11:30 am

    hey all, I’m Miles Bryan, a reporter with WBEZ News. I’m working on a story about kids who got a letter of admission to Lasalle and then had it revoked. IF you are a parent with a child in that situation, could you give me a ring for an interview? my office number is 312 948 4886 Thanks! Miles

  • 649. cpsteacherandmom  |  April 6, 2016 at 11:51 am

    @645 Shauna, Burr went well in to the hundreds last year. we were somewhere in the 60’s and got a call in april, and my neighbor was in the hundreds and got a call in June.I visited Burr and was really impressed with the amount of fine art extra curriculars and parent involvement. In the end, we went for a school closer to our home, but I would have been happy to send my kid there.

  • 650. parent  |  April 6, 2016 at 11:53 am

    Miles, it also seems that many parents did not receive a letter this year. You might want to follow up on that. I don’t believe that has ever happened before. People are very frustrated.

  • 651. Stone Parent  |  April 6, 2016 at 11:54 am

    Regarding Stone: I have a child in 1st grade and we have been very happy. The school is such an amazingly diverse place full of happy kids. As the previous poster said, go on a warm day before school or after, and you can see for yourself. A large population of families at the school are recent immigrants (from all over the world) so there are language barriers with many of the parents – which could explain low parent participation in things like surveys. But the parent community is active and the auditorium is always standing room only for school events. The arts are wonderful and the school environment is relaxed and friendly. The playground is nothing fancy, but it is HUGE with tons of open space and lots of room to run! I actually think it’s one of the school’s best assets. The principal is not the most personable, but she is, from what I can tell, a skilled administrator who has done well to budget for the school. The office staff couldn’t be nicer and all of the other staff I’ve come into contact with are friendly and kind.

    The aftercare program is run in-house and is lovely and relaxed and the staff is great.

    Downsides? Sure, there are some but most would be true at any popular CPS school: large class sizes, boys bathroom is OLD and supposedly pretty gross (though I’ve never been in obviously), no cafeteria (which I actually think is nice for the younger grades – less chaotic than eating in a cafeteria with 200 other kids!…and it means they can eat lunch at lunch time instead of at 10:30 or whatever.)

    The older kids seem really nice and I’ve never witnessed any bad behavior. The kids are separated by age by floor – so the younger kids rarely see the older kids during the day.

    As far as attrition – I know of 2 kids that didn’t come back from K last year (could be slightly more but I don’t think so). One got into a SEES school that starts at 1st grade and one moved to the burbs. In the older grades, kids leave to go to Academic Centers, but this is true of all non-SEES CPS schools. And of course, there’s the standard trickle of people moving to the suburbs.

    Anyway, I think if you have the opportunity to tour the school, you should! I’m happy to answer any other questions anyone might have.

  • 652. JKS  |  April 6, 2016 at 12:12 pm

    @Stone Parent. Thanks so much for sharing your info. It appears no tours are being given (per the website) and your perspective is helpful.

  • 653. Swiftcurious  |  April 6, 2016 at 12:22 pm

    Does anyone have any insights about Swift?

  • 654. Agutfeelingaboutthisone  |  April 6, 2016 at 12:28 pm

    @635 veteran parent

    words of wisdom. thank you very much for the eloquent post!!

  • 655. AK  |  April 6, 2016 at 12:34 pm

    @653 — I just toured Swift a few weeks ago, and I encourage you to do the same. I really like the principal, Mr. Cannella. His K classes are small — 24 kids, unheard of in the city. It seems like a school that is going in the right direction.

  • 656. Swiftcurious  |  April 6, 2016 at 12:38 pm

    Thanks AK

  • 657. AK  |  April 6, 2016 at 12:43 pm

    Principal’s email address is “sjcannella@cps.edu.” He responded pretty quickly when I was emailing him about touring last month. Best of luck. =)

  • 658. AnotherCPSParent  |  April 6, 2016 at 12:43 pm

    @JKS If a school doesn’t have scheduled tour in time, and you have an offer or a good wait list number, call the school and ask for a tour. If the front desk says, “I’m sorry, there are no tours,” ask to speak to the principal or assistant-principal to arrange one. If they can’t squeeze in a tour for a prospective parent in the next 11 days, that’s a red flag to me

  • 659. nervousmom  |  April 6, 2016 at 12:47 pm

    Does anyone have any experience with Vanderpoel or Kellog waitlist
    we are Tier 4 number 28 for vanderpoel and #11 for Kellog
    Are these good schools
    Have heard of past problems with Vanderpoel

  • 660. nervousmom  |  April 6, 2016 at 12:48 pm

    does anyone have any experience with private schools such as Morgan park academy other than the high price tag

  • 661. Stone Parent  |  April 6, 2016 at 12:53 pm

    Also, some things I forgot to add about Stone – and I know how hard these decisions are, especially when you can’t tour, so I’m trying to add things that might be helpful.

    Each grade is paired with a Chicago arts institution and the kids receive 8-10 weeks of instruction in that discipline. K does ballet, 1st grade does tap, 2nd grade works with Raven Theater, not sure about 3rd, 4th does the blues, 5th does ball room dance, not sure about 6th, 7th grade did African dance this year, 8th grade does MeMa Music program http://wgntv.com/2014/06/10/new-program-combines-music-social-lessons-for-cps-students/

    There are 2 classes in each grade.

    My child has libraryx2, Spanishx2, gymx2 (once in the gym and once in the new “fitness room”), technology (aka computer lab)x1, musicx1, artx1 each week. The librarian is truly amazing.

    Most of the kids in my son’s classes have lived within a couple of miles of the school, which gives the magnet school more of a neighborhood feel, which I love.

    Homework has been extremely manageable so far (although I am of the opinion that NO homework would be better). In K the kids get a calendar with 30 activities/assignments and are told to complete x number of them by the end of the month. They range from simple things to more involved – you get to choose. In first grade he’s had one math sheet (front and back) and one sheet focused on literacy/writing. No homework over the weekend.

  • 662. Duchess  |  April 6, 2016 at 12:57 pm

    Can anyone provide insight on Franklin?

  • 663. Galileoanyone?  |  April 6, 2016 at 1:15 pm

    Any thoughts on Galileo? We have an ok number of 28 but no nothing of the school

  • 664. Shauna  |  April 6, 2016 at 1:18 pm

    Thanks so much, @cpsteacherandmom. This was super encouraging! I’m going to tour the school on April 14, but they do seem to have great parent involvement.

  • 665. famc1124  |  April 6, 2016 at 1:24 pm

    For families looking for info on Disney (Marine Dr):

    My son transferred to the school this school year from a Montessori Magnet School. I am not sure I can say enough good things about Disney. Perhaps my experience at the last school set the bar low…but Disney is extremely well organized. There are a lot of rules, some you might not agree with (like absolutely no cell phones allowed), but at least you can understand that the rules are in place for a reason. The administration is responsive, organized and friendly. The aftercare program is run by the teachers themselves and is a fairly good program (the last school aftercare was run by a vendor….this one is far more invested in the child since they are Disney teachers). The principal is fantastic in terms of getting funds for the school. This year Disney was not impacted in the slightest due to budget cuts as Disney had a lot of money in reserve. No school fundraisers either since there’s a lot in reserve. The teachers are excellent. As a new student, my child had one teacher for 30 days and then transferred into the Gifted program once he had taken the MAP test. The gifted teacher is top notch. My child has flourished. Technology is 1:1. My son is assigned an ipad that he uses at some point in the day…each day. There’s a lot of diversity and specials include: dance, code, science art, library, mandarin (gifted only), gym….I may be forgetting one.

    On the downside, the school is huge and as a result it has been difficult for me to feel like we are part of a community. While my child has made many friends, we have yet to have a play date. Children attend from all over the city. Its surprising how far some people travel to go there. Also, the school day starts at 7:30am. My son had to adjust, but did so easily.

    I did my due diligence before moving him to the school and highly recommend that you visit the schools and reach out to families that have children at the school. During my research, I actually spoke to a teacher too.

    Don’t let the pod environment scare you. It is surprisingly quiet during the day (I have volunteered at the school from time to time). My child gets easily distracted and in the gifted program and is still doing very well at Disney.

    I wanted to post here to provide some info that I wish I had last year when i was trying to make my decision. Good luck.

  • 666. Shauna  |  April 6, 2016 at 1:24 pm

    Anyone know what happened with the Pulaski Wait List last year? We’re currently #54 and just wondering about our chances. 😉

  • 667. HydeParkMom  |  April 6, 2016 at 1:26 pm

    @Shauna Just curious, was is Lowell not an option for you? They have good scores.

  • 668. gamutgal68  |  April 6, 2016 at 1:26 pm

    @611 Brentano is hosting three open houses this week for accepted families. My husband and I attended this morning. We are so glad we went, because we had an opportunity to talk with a few current parents (who helped the principal out with the tour), as well as meet other prospective families. We were already feeling good about Brentano, but now feel even more excited about our daughter attending Brentano for K!!

    The four parents helping out with the tour had kids in various grades. Two of them have kids in the upper grades and two have kids in the lower grades. They were very helpful in answering questions from a parent’s perspective. If you have been accepted and can attend the open house tomorrow morning, I would highly encourage it. Chances are some of those parents will be there again tomorrow and will be able to give you their first hand perspective.

    For what it’s worth, I get a sense that all of the grades are benefiting from the administration’s focus. The school seems calm and happy, with engaged students throughout. My perspective is only of an outsider looking in, but I have been on many school tours and I am confident we are making a sound choice with Brentano!!

  • 669. mommyof2  |  April 6, 2016 at 1:27 pm

    We’re on the waiting list for all schools applied, General for all.

    Andrew Jackson #259

    Burr, i know is a great school but its too far from home. Does anyone have any insight on Suder, do you think we will get a call with #41? I’m pretty sure Stem, Disney and Andrew Jackson are out.

  • 670. MPA Alum  |  April 6, 2016 at 1:30 pm

    @ nervousmom

    I went to MPA back in the 1980s (yikes!) for 1st through 8th, and many of my friends now send their kids there. I loved the experience and have turned out to be a positive, contributing member to society (or so I think). Do you have any particular questions?

  • 671. teachermom  |  April 6, 2016 at 1:30 pm

    @611 TryingToFigureItAllOut — Our after-school babysitter has a first grader at Brentano, and she recently bought a townhouse a few blocks from the school to make sure he can stay at the school. The older kids I’ve encountered there are all sweethearts (so unlike some of the Monroe kids I come across closer to home), and LSNA (Logan Square Neighborhood Association) has had a partnership with the school for several decades. A good friend of mine who is a parent of an incoming K student chose the school because it has always had a good reputation in the neighborhood (i.e. when he was growing up decades ago).

    A Parents of Brentano (closed) FB group was recently formed as well as a Class of 2025 group (secret, I think). We are still recruiting, but it might be helpful to reach out to parents of older children through the parents group. There is also an alumni group on FB you might want to take a look out. You can also check out the school FB page as well to see some of the activities that the older students are able to engage in. The principal posts there pretty regularly.

    Our current amazing preK teacher is “old school.” She’s a veteran who’s been at the school for a while, and we are so happy we ended up in her class. She performs miracles with the children.

    Seth Lavin, the principal, is very committed to an inclusive environment. For example, he shared on our K tour that he is firmly against tracking based on language or other skills when someone asked him about possible “accelerated” or “gifted” tracks.

    I think you will find that the “up-and-coming” status of Brentano is not based on racial disparities or gentrified divides such as what has happened at other schools (like Nettlehorst or Burr, from what I hear). The vision for Brentano is that of a truly inclusive neighborhood school. If that’s something you value, it will probably be the place for you.

    Anyone who wants more info can email me at miscue13(at)hotmail(dot)com.

  • 672. Kt215  |  April 6, 2016 at 1:37 pm

    Heard school was having problems
    Do you friends ever complain about school not meeting expectations

  • 673. Shauna  |  April 6, 2016 at 1:38 pm

    @HydeParkMom Lowell does have great test scores, but the population is a little less diverse than we’re hoping for. We may send our daughter there if we don’t get an offer from another school.

  • 674. apmommy  |  April 6, 2016 at 1:40 pm

    @665, thank you for the insight on Disney, can you explain what a POD is? How many K classes are there, I saw a report that 1400 students attend Disney? are there any bus service for children that live far away? thanks

  • 675. JKS  |  April 6, 2016 at 1:42 pm

    @AnotherCPSParent You are right I should give it a try–I’m taking off a day next week to tour another school and maybe could squeeze it in. And @Stone Parent. Love to hear about the arts partnerships throughout the grades. I did look at the websites of the teachers and got a bit of a feel for the curriculum as well as styles of the teachers (although teachers change grades/leave). And in reference to your previous post–It’s fine with me if the principal isn’t warm and fuzzy-if she is a strong leader that works. Thanks again for taking the time to share your insights!

  • 676. cpsteacherandmom  |  April 6, 2016 at 1:46 pm

    @669 mommyoftwo: I think you’ll get a call from Suder. We did last year, and I don’t remember the exact number but it was higher than 40, I think in the 60’s or 70’s maybe. I don’t know anything about the school though, as we had already chosen another school by the time we got the call.

  • 677. cpsteacherandmom  |  April 6, 2016 at 1:55 pm

    Also here’s our results from last year. I applied for the maximum number of schools. Here’s the numbers from 2015:

    We are tier four. 2015:

    Burr: #135 or so, offered, April, declined.
    Aggasiz: #170 or so, offered, May, declined.
    Suder: #60-70, offered, June, declined.
    OA Thorp: #13 on the proximity lottery, offered 9/3, accepted.

  • 678. teachermom  |  April 6, 2016 at 1:59 pm

    @676 Odd. We were 32 or 34 for Suder two years ago (Tier 1), and we did not get a call. When I called the school late in the summer summer, they were in single digits.

  • 679. teachermom  |  April 6, 2016 at 2:03 pm

    Of course, that was for preK3, not K.

  • 680. Laura Langdon  |  April 6, 2016 at 2:06 pm

    My daughter is currently at Stone (K). She will be leaving for next year because we are moving and we are enrolling her in a school at a closer location. For parents asking about Stone…we have had a positive experience. The families are very friendly and involved. I really liked the Jolly Phonics program used in K. My daughter has a strong grasp on vowels, sounds and how the English language works. The class sizes are large just like all CPS schools. There were other teachers in the class to support during literacy time. My daughter raves about library class! Oh, we were on the proximity wait list last year #2 and received a call in April for a spot.

  • 681. Vincent Johnson  |  April 6, 2016 at 2:26 pm

    @124 New CPSmom, I’m a Sheridan dad who can’t say enough good things about that school, but my son was in Pre-K at Lenart, but didn’t test in. Lenart is easily a top 5 grade school in CPS, but often gets overlooked because of its location. Stick with Lenart.

  • 682. Cin  |  April 6, 2016 at 2:32 pm

    Any insight for our waitlist status:

    Entering Kindergarten

    Alcott general #22
    Burr general #4
    Drummond general #48
    Lasalle 2 proximity #15

    Hoping for Alcott or Drummond but both seem unlikely!

  • 683. Vincent Johnson  |  April 6, 2016 at 2:35 pm

    @389 Jaysmom, my son was #3 in tier 4 two years ago at Sheridan Academy, we got a call I want to say in late May, early June. Your chances at #2 should be pretty good. If you haven’t heard from the school by mid-May, I’d give them a call just to check. The front office people was really understanding about my enquiries and part of the reason we turned down later offers.

  • 684. Vincent Johnson  |  April 6, 2016 at 2:39 pm

    @399 SouthsideMom If you can’t tell by the past post, I’ve been going through the list trying to help potential Sheridan parents. My kid was #3 on the list at Sheridan, you should have a pretty good shot at getting in. I can’t say enough good things about that school too. I know LaSalle gets raves, but the diversity, the grades and the staff at Sheridan make it worth a solid consideration.

  • 685. Andrea  |  April 6, 2016 at 2:42 pm

    To everyone claiming that the people in OAE are incompetent and demanding accountability, I have to ask – what did you expect? The staff in that office has been cut to the bone while the responsibilities of the office remain. If you had to do the job of three full-time employees, I’d expect you would screw up, too. This is not the “incompetence” of certain people, it’s a symptom of the failure of an entire system, and it’s only going to get worse. I’m just surprised that those of you who are out for blood are willing to entrust your children to this system in the first place.

    You can send all the angry e-mails you want, but they are only going to arrive at the in-boxes of people who are already stressed out and demoralized by what has been happening over the past year. Imagine if how you felt about not actually getting into LaSalle is how you felt every single day going to work — that’s their life. Do you really need to dump on them more? What will that solve, other than to make you feel better at their expense?

    At the end of the day, you can’t operate on a shoestring budget and expect the services and precision of a well-funded organization. You get what you pay for. If you want better, demand higher taxes for more CPS funding. Or move to private school or a different city. Otherwise things are going to get a lot worse for you in CPS before they get better.

  • 686. arthistorynerd  |  April 6, 2016 at 2:51 pm

    @Stone Parent – Thanks for the generous insights! Since it is 100% magnet, could you please comment on the culture of dropping off kids there? Is there a long line of cars along Leavitt every morning? Do parents respect each other when it comes to pulling out and into line? Roughly how much time should I allot for dropping off my kindergartener?

  • 687. arthistorynerd  |  April 6, 2016 at 2:55 pm

    Just got a call from someone at one of the magnet schools we were offered in the lottery. She says that the April 15th deadline doesn’t apply to us — that we only have 48 hours from the time of her phone call to decide if we’re going to attend that particular school. I didn’t know that individual schools could change things like this. Could someone please explain?

  • 688. mom  |  April 6, 2016 at 3:05 pm

    @682. Cin: We went to the tour at Alcott this morning and I can offer a bit of insight (though not much). I think whether you get a call from Alcott or not will depend on whether they decide to open up a third kindergarten classroom. They said right now they are planning to have only two kindergarten classrooms for the the fall. They would like to keep it at that, but it will, of course, depend on enrollment. So if they do open a third classroom, it’s possible they’ll start calling from their waitlist, but at #22 you might just miss it (or you could just make it). They said they like to keep class sizes at at least 26 so they can get maximum funding. That’s sort of the “magic number.” We received an offer for Alcott for K and I still don’t understand how, especially since they said they’re currently planning only 2 K classes and not 3, but we have happily accepted the offer.

  • 689. Ping pong  |  April 6, 2016 at 3:06 pm

    @687, say yes now and tell them you changed your mind later, if you do. Not a biggie.
    @685, I agree with you. In order to keep teachers in the school, CPS cut so many jobs from headquarters. CPS is not funded properly and we need to stick together and be partners with CPS. There are so many options in life, go elsewhere. Go to the suburbs where life is easy, roses bloom in winter and nobody makes mistakes.

  • 690. Stone Parent  |  April 6, 2016 at 3:52 pm

    @arthistorynerd drop off is outside weather permitting. you can drop off as early as 7:30, I think, and there are a couple of people there monitoring the playground. Most kids arrive between 7:50 and 8. There is a “kiss and drop” lane on leavitt and it is always civil, although of course there is some very slight chaos in the last minutes before school or when buses arrive – but really nothing terrible. There are parent volunteers that help the kids get out of the car. The kids then walk to the playground and play until the first bell rings. Then they line up and the teachers come out to get them.
    Lots of kids take the bus, so it’s not like every kid is arriving in a separate car. And compared to some schools, Stone is pretty small, so there are just less kids being dropped off over all.

    In my experience, my kindergartner would not do kiss and drop. I ended up finding parking – one or two at the most blocks away and walking him to his line, waiting for the second bell and the teacher to come out, and then walking back to the car. This wasn’t the quickest!

    when it is colder or raining (which ends up being pretty much all winter) it is “indoor drop off”. This is much faster because then the kids just go straight into school.

    It’s hard to say how much time you need for drop off since it’s really about how comfortable your kid is – can you leave before they go into the building, etc.? But as far as it being chaotic, it’s not that bad, especially if you are a few minutes early and not rushing to make the second bell.

    My son does kiss and drop now and we usually drop him at 7:50 (if it’s outdoor drop off, he wants time to play for a bit before the bell!) and it works out great.

  • 691. 3isacharm  |  April 6, 2016 at 4:03 pm

    Your chances look good. For first we’re called at 35 for Kellogg. And Vanderpoel single digits. Vanderpoel is having a open house this Thursday look on site for times. First threw fourth seem solid.Not sure what going on with upper grades.The school is going threw principle selection. Should be over in a few weeks. Academics are a major focus from what I see. As for.Kellogg its a nice school not as academic.But small ,clean, stable,and organized & Lots of events. It just wasn’t for my son

  • 692. Kt215  |  April 6, 2016 at 4:11 pm

    Thanks for your input really concerned about academics at Kellogg. I don’t here a lot about the academics.

  • 693. 3isacharm  |  April 6, 2016 at 4:14 pm

    Wow! I would call access and enrollment and check. Most schools aren’t that on it. I was told the 14th but it was someone random in school office.

  • 694. 3isacharm  |  April 6, 2016 at 4:29 pm

    See of you can get a tour so you can see first hand. They have a language which was cut at Vanderpoel. My son class was disruptive and he did poorly. We weren’t call till 2nd week school started.And kindergarten teacher is new. Lots of non neighborhood kids. First week for Vanderpoel.

  • 695. One and Only  |  April 6, 2016 at 5:08 pm

    @687 – I’m assuming you got called off the waitlist? My understanding is that the April 15 deadline is for people who got initial offers. However, once schools start working through their waitlist they set a shorter time line so they can move on quickly to fill the spots.

  • 696. One and Only  |  April 6, 2016 at 5:10 pm

    @685 – I couldn’t agree more about OAE. I suspect that they were set up for failure by cutting their staff but not their responsibilities. It’s not that surprising that they failed – I’m frankly surprised there weren’t more errors. Getting these letters generated has got to be an unbelievably difficult task.

  • 697. 3isacharm  |  April 6, 2016 at 5:33 pm

    Kt215 From what I understand alot of family choose Vanderpoel over some selective enrolment schools. Best of luck. It’s a very difficult process

  • 698. Benita Jorge  |  April 6, 2016 at 6:02 pm

    does anyone has any insight on Franklin Elementary my daughter is wait listed general 35 or edgebrook wait listed 17 general.

  • 699. APMom  |  April 6, 2016 at 6:27 pm


  • 700. tempest26  |  April 6, 2016 at 7:13 pm

    Thanks to the parents who left comments about Disney! We have been offered a K spot there and will accept (and tour on tuesday) but we also have been wait listed at tier 4 for Lasalle 1 #59 and Newberry #29, so I don’t know if those will be possibilities. I’m not extremely interested in academic rigor, especially at the elementary level, so I’m trying to find the best fit for his personality. Am I crazy to take a gamble on a neighborhood school? We are low on the list for Von Linne and I like the diversity and parent involvement there. It hasn’t exactly been discussed at length above but wondering if any more seasoned parents have insight. I thought the parent above who commented about Coonley 8 years ago sounded like what I’m hoping for: a school on the rise, where we can be a part of that. Any thoughts are welcome!

  • 701. arthistorynerd  |  April 6, 2016 at 7:25 pm

    @One and Only Nope. Not waitlisted — my son was offered an actual spot at this school through the lottery. The letter very clearly says we have until April 15th. Why are they telling us we only have 48 hours?

  • 702. chefkimberlyjo  |  April 6, 2016 at 7:48 pm

    @674 All Disney classrooms are pods – there is one big room per grade and the classes are divided up with low dividers – much like ones used in offices. The thing I hear most about the pods is that they are very overwhelming to the PARENTS, but the kids seem to do just fine with them.
    I believe there are 7 classes per grade level and the last I heard the total number of students was closer to 1600. It is a huge school. One of the things I love about it is that the grades are divided up by floor. 1st floor is pre-k, k & 1st grade. second floor is 2, 3 & 4. For us this made it much more manageable. The kids eat in separate lunch rooms and play in separate outdoor spaces according to which floor they are on.
    There is bus service if you are within the CPS allowable range. And there are a lot of busses!

  • 703. Jen K  |  April 6, 2016 at 7:53 pm

    @701 that doesn’t seem right. Maybe they are trying to move to the wait list as quickly as possible. If you’ve made up your mind, I’d comply; if you need more time, contact OAE if you continue to be pressured.

  • 704. One and Only  |  April 6, 2016 at 7:56 pm

    @arthistorynerd – that is weird. I don’t know why they would be doing that – but this has been a weird year. If it’s your only offer, I would just accept for now – you can always change your mind later. If you are trying to decide between offers, I think I would call the school and ask to talk to the principal for more clarificarion. Good luck.

  • 705. Jen  |  April 6, 2016 at 8:42 pm

    @696, this same exact logic can and should be applied to CPS classrooms, all of them. “I suspect that they were set up for failure by cutting their staff but not their responsibilities. It’s not that surprising that they failed – I’m frankly surprised there weren’t more errors. Getting these (kids where they need to be) has got to be an unbelievably difficult task.”

  • 706. Kt215  |  April 6, 2016 at 8:46 pm

    Anyone know how far Sutherkand has moved down the list in the past
    Really far down the list do I know it probably won’t happen but very curious

  • 707. LincolnSquareMOM  |  April 6, 2016 at 8:58 pm

    @685 Andrea — i refuse to accept incompetency as the ‘norm’ from my school system. The purpose of my demand for accountability is not to demoralize or ‘dump’ on entry level employees at the OAE – i agree that would not be helpful to the situation. my ask is from those in charge of governance of this program at the OAE to provide transparency & restore trust to the public (what exactly happened? why did it happen? what are you doing to prevent it from happening again?)- i think we all have a right to that.

    Sadly, perhaps my expectations should come down, but if the public does not voice their demand for something better then we can only expect more of the same and i refuse to accept this as the ‘norm’. it is tragic that there is not budget for cps, but that is not an excuse for this.

    Having these letters sent families in an accurate format is one of the main purposes of the OAE office -i think we can all agree that this particular situation has never happened before. so implying that this was just one of their endless ‘tasks’ to check off their list is inaccurate at best.

  • 708. harry potter  |  April 6, 2016 at 9:16 pm

    @707, I’m sorry, but I’m laughing right now. You’re new to CPS, no? You have a steep learning curve about how an urban school system operates ahead of you.

  • 709. CPS mom too  |  April 6, 2016 at 9:20 pm

    @707 Not to mention that we’ve been through massive cuts to the central office. We all like to carp about waste but it’s not totally shocking to see that there’s a cost when there have been so many layoffs in the central office. In my three years in CPS I’ve found the folks in OAE to be incredibly responsive and professional, so my best guess is that, like everyone else, they’re massively understaffed.

  • 710. Agutfeelingaboutthisone  |  April 6, 2016 at 9:29 pm


    Besides the awesome post about Coonley that you read, there have been some other great responses from parents who took a leap of faith and went with their neighborhood schools. Look back at some of the other posts in response to my post @608. 🙂

  • 711. Kdad  |  April 6, 2016 at 10:02 pm

    Tier 2, K

    Lasalle 22
    Burley 33
    O Thorp 29
    Franklin 46
    Pulaski 13
    Newberry 84
    Disney II 52
    Edgebrook 38

    Any chances with these WL numbers?

  • 712. One and Only  |  April 6, 2016 at 10:29 pm

    @Jen 705 – I totally agree!

  • 713. LincolnSquareMOM  |  April 6, 2016 at 10:36 pm

    @708 harry potter – i am laughing over here too because i know that i am in for the fight of my life. please educate me rather than just making guesses about what you think happened. I’d be happy to hear from someone at OAE about this and be transparent with it. take ownership of the mistake and commit to a plan for change and get the public’s trust for next year. OAE tell me how underfunded you are, tell me your excuses for this snafu and maybe the public will come around to your side on this one. Until I hear anything, i will continue to feel misled and that this process is not transparent.

  • 714. Maria  |  April 7, 2016 at 12:05 am


    My son is a current kindergartener at Chappell. We both absolutely love it. Great teacher, great principal, very safe neighborhood, the parent involvement is phenomenal. And to top it off, his kindergarten class is only 26. We were called on the first day of school and only had researched the test scores and their before and after school programs. Since my neighborhood school had very low test scores, I already planned what I needed to do if I was called from any other school. Got him registered for both b4 school that is in Chappell and starts at 7am, and after school has 2 programs, one that picks them up in their van and is near the Berwyn redline stop and house in an old school with actual rooms. But there is also Park Kids that is in Chappell and much less expensive. Both programs require you to pick them up b4 6pm. Hope I helped….

  • 715. realchicagomama  |  April 7, 2016 at 12:27 am

    @LIncoln Square MOM – OAE can’t tell you that or answer that or put out a communication right now; the are too busy scrambling. 400,000 kids, 4 employees (according to something I read). You do the math on that one.

  • 716. Trish  |  April 7, 2016 at 2:01 am

    Can anyone shed some light on how much movement there is to Andrew Jackson and Stem’s waiting list? Anyone know from last year? I know there’s no way of really knowing, but any info would be nice. I want to know if I really need to consider my fallback. This whole process so stressful.

  • 717. ObsessedNewbie  |  April 7, 2016 at 8:13 am

    To all of the NTA parents Can you tell me what type of specials the school offers. I really would appreciate it. Thanks so much.

  • 718. Near South Sider  |  April 7, 2016 at 9:14 am


    On a rotating basis, the kids get Spanish, art, music, technology, gym, and swimming. At the beginning of each week, you get a newsletter with all the specials of the week so you know when to pack a swim suit or when to dress them in gym clothes. It’s really robust programming.

  • 719. MustangMom  |  April 7, 2016 at 9:17 am

    I am truly sorry for those families negative impacted by the LaSalle School snafu. But please give the OAE a break. I’ve been living CPS for 16 years and that office is by far the most responsive, organized, and smart part of the bureaucracy. Everyone take a deep breath. It’s really going to be okay.

  • 720. smpt  |  April 7, 2016 at 9:43 am

    @698 Benita – what grade? I have twins at Franklin in 5th grade and can try to answer any questions you might have.

  • 721. Sarah  |  April 7, 2016 at 9:49 am

    @720, can you please elaborate on Franklin. I have been accepted to third grade. I know the LSC released their principal, but I’m nervous who will be hired. How do you like the overall school?

  • 722. Kinderchild  |  April 7, 2016 at 9:56 am

    Hi. I have a child that’s on the wait list for Franklin Kinder. We’re top 5 so I heard we had a good chance of getting in. I was wondering if you could tell me if kids her recess everyday, weather permitting, and for how long? Also, how is the school lunch and are the kids comfortable eating at their desks since there is no lunchroom? What is the homework load for Kinder and what specials do they have? Thanks.

  • 723. cpsobsessed  |  April 7, 2016 at 10:00 am

    @716 – for AJ and STEM, I believe there is typically very little movement on those lists.

  • 724. smpt  |  April 7, 2016 at 10:06 am

    @722 Kinderchild – you should attend the open house. Yes the kids have recess everyday, I believe lunch/recess is a combination of 45 minutes. J@School are our lunch and recess monitors. They also provide our after school program. If the weather is too cold, they either go to the gym or have indoor recess in the classroom playing games. I can’t comment on the school lunch but it is hot. You can you this link to get an idea of school lunches served: http://www.cps.edu/About_CPS/Departments/Documents/Nutrition/K-8LUNCHApril.pdf
    Not sure on your comment about eating at their desks, we have a lunch room (that doubles as an auditorium). Most days lunch is in the lunch room unless there is something special going on.
    Here is our website:
    Hope that helps #5 is probably a good chance especially since we have two K classes next year.

  • 725. cpsobsessed  |  April 7, 2016 at 10:07 am

    @700 – it can truly take as few as like 10-15 families to help get a neighborhood school on people’s radar. Typically there needs to a be a couple strong leaders in that group who have daytime ability to do stuff at the school, rally parents, organize stuff, and help the school promote themselves and offer tours.

    If you sense your local school has some momentum going, it can be a great option. You are doing good not only for your kid, but for an entire neighborhood (and often ultimately boosting property values as well.) It’s a great way to experience community.

    So one route is to find a school that is blossoming like this. If some parents have the energy, doing it in your own neighborhood is even better. Alderman and local businesses can help as well.

    Worst case, you try it for Kindergarten and if it doesn’t work, lottery spots are often easer to get in higher grades… you can always change schools in 1st.

  • 726. smpt  |  April 7, 2016 at 10:11 am

    @721 Sarah – congrats on the 3rd grade spot! We love the school and have been there 6 years. I have full confidence in our LSC Board and Principal selection committee that we will have a new wonderful principal next year. They are moving pretty fast on the search, so I would expect someone to be selected by end of April/beginning of May. Hope that helps.

  • 727. ObsessedNewbie  |  April 7, 2016 at 10:14 am

    Thanks @ Near South Sider. What are your feelings regarding their math and science curriculum? My husband is big on math and Science but I also want her to learn a language as well.

  • 728. Sarah  |  April 7, 2016 at 10:24 am

    @725 smpt, that is great news. Can I ask what you love about the school? It is so difficult to pull him out of one school where he is successful and plant him in another. But his current school does not have the fine arts focus that he would enjoy. He is a big ham and he loves performing. How are the parents? How is drop off? How is security? Is there foreign language at all?

  • 729. smpt  |  April 7, 2016 at 10:28 am

    @cpsobsessed – can you please give #727 Sarah my email address so we can talk offline. Thanks.

  • 730. North Center Mom  |  April 7, 2016 at 10:48 am

    This review of Bell School breaks my heart.


  • 731. 2nd Round Mom  |  April 7, 2016 at 10:49 am

    I know the last day to respond to offers is April 15. Spring Break is the following week. Do you think they’ll start calling from wailtlists during spring break???? or wait till school is in session..
    Agggh, can’t wait..

    Thorp is having open house for new students on April 13, 6pm. Tempted to go since Im #3 on Proximity. Does anyone know if they have multiple tours??

  • 732. Mom-of-2  |  April 7, 2016 at 11:05 am

    @730 If I were you, I would go to the Thorp open house. That way if you get an offer, you will already have seen the school.

  • 733. AnotherThorpMom  |  April 7, 2016 at 11:19 am

    @730 – I would also recommend going to the open house. In my experience, they will start calling after registration for accepted students is complete. Registration is the week of 4/25. My guess is the first or second week of May. Our first time around we were #6 in T4 and were called the second week of May.

  • 734. Sarah  |  April 7, 2016 at 11:24 am

    @728 smpt, feel free to call me at your convenience at 708-362-9724 to chat about Franklin. Thx.
    @729–that is so sad. I have no experience with Bell but I have found that the “wonderful” CPS schools are not wonderful for everyone. It is so important to tour and talk with parents.

  • 735. teachermom  |  April 7, 2016 at 11:41 am

    @730 2nd Round Mom: Wait list calls won’t happen until the week after spring break, starting April 25th. There isn’t staff in the schools to make any calls during the holiday.

  • 736. Trish  |  April 7, 2016 at 11:45 am

    So, I emailed Stem about an open house earlier this morning, and I just got a reply back from the principle. I’ve got to says that’s pretty efficient. However, the email says there’s going to be an open house for all parents with acceptance letters. Like 730, I’m on the waiting list #6, so I thought it would be good to take a look in case we get offered. Now, I’m disappointed that I won’t be able to since I’m only on a waiting list.

  • 737. Julia  |  April 7, 2016 at 11:48 am

    When we got called off the waitlist for Skinner North back in 2012, my husband dropped everything and went down there to visit immediately. (He tried to call me to meet him there but my cell phone had died! People, keep your phones charged! Learn from me!) I know you will only have a short time to consider an offer, but you can just be ready to do that, if work allows.

  • 738. newtothorpmom  |  April 7, 2016 at 12:03 pm

    I was told that Thorp has an open house scheduled for April 13th at 7 PM and the office needs our acceptance/offer letter and form ASAP. I called yesterday.

  • 739. New CPSmom  |  April 7, 2016 at 12:25 pm

    Thank you Vincent Johnson. We are closer to Sheridan but we really did enjoy the OH and the breadth of activities for K

  • 740. Maria  |  April 7, 2016 at 12:27 pm


    If this helps at all, My son is going to 11st grade and on the waitlist for STEM….and will be declining

  • 741. New CPSmom  |  April 7, 2016 at 12:37 pm

    That is in regards to Lenart

  • 742. AnotherThorpMom  |  April 7, 2016 at 12:47 pm

    @738 – Sorry if I caused confusion. Yes, the acceptance form and letters are due the 15th. This basically tells them you want the spot and intend to register. The actual registration week is the week of 4/25. Registration is the submission of all the forms to officially enroll your child in the school.

  • 743. cpsteacherandmom  |  April 7, 2016 at 12:56 pm

    @678 teachermom, yeah Suder has not ever really moved for pre k3, but it does quite a bit for K.

  • 744. Near South Sider  |  April 7, 2016 at 1:04 pm

    @ ObsessedNewbie

    My DH is also a math/science guy, so that’s frequently a conversation in our house. I can only speak to what the kids are doing in K, but we’ve been pleased. The kids are learning this “new math” both in class and at home with the worksheets, and on my kid’s assessments (I can’t remember the official name of the test), the score is at least one grade level ahead right now.

    Science has been a lot of fun for my kid. They have explored the basics of observation, gathering data, and keeping journal notes. They did experiments with the five senses (taste was a hit!), and have learned about the parts of the body, insects, and animals. When the weather was warm (a loooong time ago!) I saw the older kids doing experiments outside using chalk to trace their shadows in order to study the movement of the sun.

    We have no concerns about the quality of the math and science curriculum at NTA.

  • 745. Hoping  |  April 7, 2016 at 1:11 pm

    Any hope for a #1 General wait list at Galileo?

  • 746. CPS mom  |  April 7, 2016 at 1:18 pm

    @735 teacher mom;

    Thats what I was thinking about waitlist calls but I would not be surprised if calls go out during Spring Break. Many admin work over break and it is not uncommon for clerks to come in for extra pay to work. They could easily put in a few hours to call parents to secure slots; AP’s can do this as well. So it is definitely possible for parents to get calls during break especially with budget crisis and schools trying to secure in kids. Kids = funding.

  • 747. Hoping  |  April 7, 2016 at 2:04 pm

    Anyone have any information on Columbus school?

  • 748. Kp  |  April 7, 2016 at 2:05 pm

    Those wanting to tour Stone, send the AP an emai or call the school office. We are going on the 11th at 3:30.

  • 749. HHSL  |  April 7, 2016 at 2:11 pm

    Hi all,
    Does anyone know how much the Drummond list moves? We are WL#24 for 1st grade.
    Also, can anyone comment on their experience with that school?

  • 750. Momof3  |  April 7, 2016 at 2:26 pm

    OAE had a clerical staff of 12 then the 25% required staffing cuts in February made it so 4 people had to get cut making the OAE office who do all of the 60,000 applications to 8 people. Also those 8 people all had to learn their coworkers job on the fly because those 4 people were let go the day of cuts and were told not to come back – so no training for the others that needed to add to their job. I have to say that those 8 people need to have a round of applause for getting the letters out as well as they could and soon as they could. It was a clerical error by someone who had less than a month for training. They tried to call everyone to give an oral apology which I think is better than a public apology. We all are were able to get our choices rescinded if need be because the deadline was April 15. I was one of those people who had an offer for Lasalle and now am on the WL. It sucks but it happens. Really to blame is CPS Executives and Rahm who can’t manage to get sustainable funds nor able to fund the schools properly so we can’t get proper staffing.

  • 751. CPS mom  |  April 7, 2016 at 3:07 pm

    @750 Hmmmm… I hear you but as stated previously by another poster that same excuse can be made for teachers in the classroom; not enough teachers to accommodate students, not having proper funding, administrators asking to do more with less, and yet we dont make excuses for them or cut them slack because we realize that its our kids at stake and expect them to find a way to make it happen. CPS is a mess all the way around; we need to demand better at all levels. I am glad that this issue was brought to light because TRUST – CPS would not be divulging this information publicly if the parents hadnt made it public. The whole process is convoluted, random and inadequate at best. Parents are frustrated because its yet another example of CPS’ lack of transparency and competency. And we all pay tax dollars to see this work efficiently. I dont think sending out 500 letters in error just “happens”. If the district was ran more efficiently this mistake would not happen. The delay in letters, then the extra delay in letters, then the who’s on first explanation of this whole process, is tiring. They could do better. I believe the confusion and opaqueness of the process is by design.

  • 752. GalileoMom  |  April 7, 2016 at 3:37 pm

    This is in reply to the posters asking about Galileo. My son is in 1st grade there and it’s his first year there (he did K at his preschool). We are happy here, we love it.

    There are 3 classes each for K-3, at least. One class is a comprehensive gifted class, starting in 1st grade. There are 25 kids in my son’s class. His specials schedule is library on Mondays, gym on Tuesdays & Thursdays, science lab on Wednesdays & Thursdays and art on Fridays. Unfortunately there is no music program.

    I don’t have any info about the teachers in the other grades, but we love our son’s current teachers. The librarian and library are wonderful and she’s very responsive to emails. She also runs a blog describing various activities. And sad to say, it seems like finding a school with a library AND librarian is becoming more rare.

    My son loves, loves, loves the science lab and the primary science teacher. The 1st quarter, they studied meal worms and they had actual meal worms! 2d quarter was weather and this 3rd quarter is matter. He loves to talk about the differences between solids, liquids and gas.

    We’ve had concerns about him being challenged academically, but his main teacher and the administration are all very responsive. They’re all working on providing him extra work and we’ve been told he’ll be moved into the gifted program for 2d grade. Everybody is very interested in him being in the best place & getting what he needs.

    From about October-March, they offered after school programs at & through the school. My son was able to take Korean, but I know they had several options. The only other one I remember is Spelling Bee, I think there were a couple of music options. I don’t think any of these were intense at all. My son is not speaking Korean, but he enjoyed the class & it was fun.

    Galileo is right next door to Sheridan Park, where he goes for their after school program. This works AWESOME for us, the logistics for our family is excellent. Staff escort all the kids from the school to the park and he’s able to be there until 6pm (if needed). Galileo doesn’t have a playground but they have access to Sheridan’s field. Also, I believe starting in 5th grade (?), kids have swimming at Sheridan as part of their Galileo gym class.

    Hard for me to really compare to previous years, but I think parent involvement is improving. There is a PAC and BAC. I am in the middle of volunteering now for a K-2 school dance and am meeting a lot of great parents. Before doing, this, though, I’ve had little contact with other parents. Part of this is because both my husband & I work FT, so we only do quick drop-offs & pick-ups :/ The other parents I’ve met working on this dance have the point of view of wanting to bring in other parents, expand offerings and improve the school. I do wish there was more info online, e.g., Facebook pages, etc. But memos from the principal are sent home weekly & his teacher sends home info daily. I’ve gotten used to the “old school” method 🙂 of communicating and don’t feel I’ve missed anything.

    Other events this year have been a Day of the Dead event, big fundraiser in Feb (Reach for the Stars), Literacy Night (related to the Scholastic Book Fair), and they’re fundraising for & planning a Day of the Child event.

    Although, there is 1 parent with a kid in my son’s class who I’ve become friends with (and our sons are friends). Know where we met? This site!! We both follow this site, started talking and it’s been great. This site is the BEST!

    I should end this novel, but I’m happy to talk more, answer any questions. The bottom line is that my son loves Galileo, is doing well and is happy here. Good luck to all in this crazy process!!

  • 753. 2nd Round Mom  |  April 7, 2016 at 3:53 pm

    I emailed OAE to find out if calls for wait listers would be made during Spring Break and this was their response:

    “That is at the discretion of the schools, which each manage their own waitlists.”

    Hopefully good news will come thru sooner then later

  • 754. Hoping  |  April 7, 2016 at 3:53 pm

    Thank you for your insight, I have had a hard time finding information. Glad to hear parents are becoming involved, that was one of my concerns, the school we are at currently has a great sense of “community” and would love to keep that feeling if we do get an offer from Galileo (#1 general wait list). I also am happy to hear that they see when a child needs an extra challenge, they all learn at a different pace and that is wonderful that the teachers see that and act upon it.

  • 755. Trish  |  April 7, 2016 at 4:07 pm

    Thanks Maria! However, my child is going to kindergarten, but your news gives hope to others on the waiting list for 1st. Good luck to a new school year for your little one.

  • 756. harry potter  |  April 7, 2016 at 4:24 pm

    @751, I think you didn’t understand my point. I was saying that in a system like CPS, both in central office and in the classroom, there are not enough people or resources to do the kind of work one might hope for. Its simply not possible. It has nothing to do with the employees making excuses or people making excuses for them. If you have only enough food for 4 people in your fridge, you cannot feed a party of 10, no matter how much you want to, no matter how much you are committed to doing so. It is the same with CPS. You can expect people to “make it happen” all you want because kids are involved. But at some point, when staff and resources are cut as much as they have been and will be even more, students have to suffer. No way around it. Parents who can make up for the gaps will, and parents who can’t won’t.

  • 757. Bronzeville Mom  |  April 7, 2016 at 4:40 pm

    Thank you so much @GalileoMom! We have an offer for Galileo and are trying to decide between a few offers, so this is very helpful. Can you tell me what the drop-off/pick-up situation is for younger children? (Take them inside to their class? Drop them out front with their teacher?) We called and they aren’t offering any tours this week or next, so it’s a bit unnerving to make a decision sight unseen, but it’s very helpful to hear another parent’s experience with their child.

  • 758. NSMomma  |  April 7, 2016 at 4:49 pm

    What kind of transparency do you think would make you feel better about a clerical/data entry error? Would something like this help? Because I guarantee you it was something like this:

    If OAE came forward and said: (fictional account)

    We would like to explain our error. Data entry person X accidentally input 516 instead of 16 when they set up the Lasalle algorithm. We assure you that we will work to prevent this from occuring again (although when we have 20,000+ students applying to up to 550 schools, these things sometimes occur and we are humans.)

    We apologize that programmer Y accidentally read data into column A instead of column B which caused the program to read an incorrect number of openings at LaSalle and generate additional offers. (Our software is outdated and we’d been working around the clock like we do every year.) But we assure you that we will work to prevent this from occurring again.

    I DO hope that OAE was appropriate apologetic in the emails/calls them made to the families.

    I mean, OAE has the power to put people back into the pool for any school they turned down, since only 3 days had passed, right? It’s not like OAE told them Aug 31 that they didn’t have a spot at LaSalle.

  • 759. GalileoMom  |  April 7, 2016 at 5:13 pm

    @Bronzeville Mom

    I think you can walk your kid inside, if you want. The teachers are not outside waiting for the kids. There is a pretty efficient “kiss & ride” drop off procedure with 2 people monitoring the traffic. They do a great job of keeping cars moving & pedestrians safe. Then somebody else is always at the main door. I’ve always just dropped off my son this way and never gotten out of the car. This works well for us, but you can walk your kid inside if you prefer.

    I don’t know about pick up since my son goes over to Sheridan Park after school. I’m pretty sure you go — or at least you can go — inside if you’re picking up from school. I’m only basing this from hearing about signs/info for parents being put up inside the school.

    And I’m happy to help! Let me know if you have other questions, too.

  • 760. veteran parent  |  April 7, 2016 at 5:21 pm

    758 – nicely done but you know the ruffled feathers are not listening….
    just noticed that the Gifted thread now says that OAE has had more employees let go….
    Surely those who are threatening lawsuits and public shaming news reports should probably wait until they are safely “inputted” into the system…

  • 761. Bronzeville Mom  |  April 7, 2016 at 5:28 pm

    Thank you @GalileoMom! If you wouldn’t mind writing to me so we could talk offline as questions arise, my email is aimjoy110 (at) hotmail (dot) com. We’re leaning towards accepting the Galileo offer and it’s great to know some parents at the school going into things. Thanks

  • 762. grumpf  |  April 7, 2016 at 5:31 pm

    If you have an acceptance for Drummond-RUN! The administration is TERRIBLE and all of the veteran families are leaving. The beauty of a Montessori education is consistency. Last year alone there were 17 new students in one classroom. The entire school has shifted to such a negative place. The spirit is gone. I’m not saying this to be snarky, I am trying to give you all fair warning and if you receive other offers I would accept them. Anything is better than Drummond.

  • 763. CPS mom  |  April 7, 2016 at 6:31 pm


    The entire process for selecting students is not fully transparent. Do we *really* understand how this process works or understand what they are telling us about how the process works??? The fact that schools manage their own wait list for magnet –who is doing the check and balances for that? How do you know they are going down the list properly? How do you know if they are following the protocol to stay within the tiers based on a student within that tier that rejected? We dont. I mean really, there are so many loop holes in this entire process and I’m saying its not really transparent and the error in the letters going out is telling of a bigger issue in general at CPS and the way they communicate and handle business.

  • 764. Chris  |  April 7, 2016 at 6:50 pm

    It’s a conspiracy, I tell ya!

    Rahm and Rauner, using money from Eli Broad, Bill Gates and the Koch Brothers, hired Mossack Fonseca to launder all of the magnet lottery preference sheets, and the result is that *your kid* got cheated.

    Once all the Panama Papers are fully reviewed, we might know the real truth.

  • 765. dringer  |  April 7, 2016 at 7:21 pm

    Re #762. Won’t deny there are issues at Drummond, but the “17 new students” remark is terribly misleading. 9 of those 17 were the incoming PK3 kids. There are a minimum of 9 new students in all 4 early education classroom every single year. For whatever that’s worth to anyone.

  • 766. One and Only  |  April 7, 2016 at 7:25 pm

    Clearly some of the adults need to take a lesson from the previous poster’s (Tammy evans) 8 year old son about the Lasalle thing. Mistakes happen. Nobody is entitled to those Lasalle spots. Those who were offered them only to have them rescinded are certainly disappointed, but they haven’t been wronged. It just happened. It’s a pity, but I can’t understand the total unwillingness to cut the OAE people some slack. They are doing an impossible job, and generally doing it well.

    @ Chris “Panama Papers”. Hahaha – thanks for the laugh.

  • 767. Tammy Evans  |  April 7, 2016 at 7:32 pm

    ~ Hello All. My name is TAMMY and I have posted several comments the last couple of days and I have also had the pleasure of reading the other comments that have come in after mine- and I must say- they are spiced with much flavor and a dash interesting colors!
    ~ My family and I were also a part of The ‘LaSalle Mix Up’. Hubby and I were very disappointed and confused and feeling pretty much let down! But our 8 year old put things into perspective for us. By reminding us to look at this from a different angle.(We were humbled)
    ~ I would like some of you to look and really understand the hurt and disappointment of our families that were deeply affected by the mistake/Mix up. Sometimes it is very easy to say get over it or let it go when we aren’t directly affected or if we choose not to try and put ourselves in another person’s shoes.
    ~Let’s say that you were unemployed and were looking for a job or the job you have is not cutting it anymore more money is needed so you start your search….. for months you have searched and researched your options -looking for a better job. You find that very job apply get called for an interview and surprisingly get hired! Life looks great from where you stand! You are on your way!! Now 2 days later you receive a call stating that there was a mx up you were NOT supposed to be offered the job! REALISTICLY WOULD YOU NOT BE TAKEN ABACK, confused and somewhat INSULTED! Sure you would you were depending on this opportunity to make great things happen. WOULD YOU WANT to SUE the company maybe not but you would experience A VARIETY OF COLORFUL EMOTIONS. AND THE LAST THING YOU WOULD WANT SAID OR IMPLIED TO YOU IS TO JUST SUCK IT UP.!!! SO, MOMS DADS, AUNTS AND UNCLES! Let’s try to be a lot more sympathetic to feelings of true Disappointment!

  • 768. CLB  |  April 7, 2016 at 7:49 pm

    @207 Odds on Mayer entrance off the waitlist at 4 yo level are very, very poor. Very few 3 yo moving to 4 yo leave. If they didn’t like the school, they left mid-year, and were replaced off the 3 yo waitlist. So the roll-over into 4 yo is almost complete.

  • 769. CLB  |  April 7, 2016 at 7:52 pm

    @762 Where are they going? There are not many public Montessori options in Chicago.

  • 770. CLB  |  April 7, 2016 at 7:59 pm

    @763 CPS mom is more accurate than is being conceded. When I wanted applicant to admission data for several magnets, just to see precise numbers, CPS gave me the run-around even after I filed a FOIA request. Finally I met with a member of the Board of Ed. who said it ought to be released, and the CBOE staff made sure it happened.

    There is no reason why CPS cannot release the applicant to acceptance rates for the initial decisions and waitlist info, with an update after the 20th day, for the lottery schools.

  • 771. teachermom  |  April 7, 2016 at 8:02 pm

    @743 cpsteacherandmom — The level of K movement at Suder suggests that it is free pre-school that a lot of people are looking for, not Montessori. This makes me sad because I am passionate about Maria Montessori and everything she has brought to early childhood education.

  • 772. One and Only  |  April 7, 2016 at 8:18 pm

    Tammy – I certainly didn’t mean to suggest that those who lost their spots shouldn’t feel free to vent their disappointment, and I’m sorry if it came across that way. I’m sure they are very upset, understandably. I just think the “heads should roll” attitude is a little tiresome.

  • 773. grumpf  |  April 7, 2016 at 8:27 pm

    @765 thank you for agreeing with me-9/17 is a normal new incoming group; however, 17 new children in a Montessori classroom is everything that the Montessori philosophy goes against. There are 3 new kindergartners, 5 new 4 yo cycle, 7 new 3 yo cycle. (I’m trying to figure out the other 2) Consistency is critical. The turnover rate is extremely high and there will be a mass exodus due to the lack of leadership that has plagued our peaceful haven the past couple of years. How about the lack of safety surrounding the school at drop off and pick up? After all, a child was struck at the intersection and the principal was forced to ride in the ambulance due to the fact that his parents were at work. The principal didn’t alert the parents until 36 hours after the incident and has yet to follow up on any new safety regulations that have been instilled. And, this is the same leadership that vacated the building last year during a tornado warning while after school programs were being held. Our children are not a priority. In fact, they are at risk with this administrations presence; Principal, Assistant Principal, & Montessori Director.

  • 774. Tammy Evans  |  April 7, 2016 at 8:30 pm

    I kindly appreciate your response! And believe you meant no harm or wanted to display any form of insensitivity.
    I get it. We all really need to take a few deep breaths!! As my WISE 8 year old( old man) stated,: WE NEED TO GO TO OUR HAPPY PLACE!!

  • 775. Holy Mistake, Batman!  |  April 7, 2016 at 8:42 pm

    Tammy, ok, we got it. Your son is amazing. He takes deep breathes, he is wise beyond his years. He is a mix of Ghandi, Mandala and probably Brad Pitt. Got it. Go to your happy place. Like, NOW.
    Mistakes happen. Remember when the child fell out the window at Oscar Mayer? Thank goodness that child lived!

  • 776. Tammy  |  April 7, 2016 at 8:48 pm

    Mandela and Ghandi ? I wish!!! 🙂

  • 777. glazed & confused  |  April 7, 2016 at 11:40 pm

    We are one of the fortunate ones to get a legitimate offer from Lasalle for K. Is there a parent of Lasalle language that can give us more info about the school and it’s inner working..ie new principal? Diversity?

  • 778. Vanderpoel  |  April 7, 2016 at 11:49 pm

    Went to open house at Vanderpoel. girls twerking on stage I know it’s a dance team but my god.
    Also principle made statements about not teaching standardized test. Is it me or is this a red flag

  • 779. realchicagomama  |  April 8, 2016 at 12:40 am

    @778 – no, that is a sign that they are not teaching to the test!

  • 780. Eightbooksorbust  |  April 8, 2016 at 6:01 am

    We were offered a spot in Disney 1 for K. I’ve heard mixed reviews on the principle and style but also that its excellent academically. I have a wiggly August birthday boy who needs structure but also patience. Can someone provide some thoughts on Disney?

  • 781. 3isacharm  |  April 8, 2016 at 7:40 am

    778 Vanderpoel It was probably me who suggested the open house. Sorry it does’nt sound like it went well. The pricple actually is really into data and they did NWEA test in winter to see determin growth.It is a turbulent time that is going to depend on principal selection.

  • 782. Undecided  |  April 8, 2016 at 7:55 am

    Any comments on Ogden MYP vs Franklin?
    Or Franklin in general?
    I have a 4th grader at Ogden waitlisted for Franklin #45 and K offered Franklin. I would prefer one drop off. Can’t decide we want to stat at Ogden or move to Franklin. Thanks in advance.

  • 783. Veteran  |  April 8, 2016 at 8:20 am

    @Undecided 782.

    I’m a former Franklin parent, current Ogden parent and can offer a word to the wise: stay at Ogden! The current Kdg teacher was the 4th/ 5th grade before and is one of the reasons we left! FFAC in so much upheaval right now, from the LSC voting out the principal (who needed to go IMO), to the transitory nature of the classroom assignments .. Not to mention school culture. Read around the reviews on greatschools, visit the school and make your own determination of course… But be warned, outside of their fine arts program a lot is left to be desired. Frankly I prefer the solid history, administrative transparency and diverse backgrounds at Ogden to anything FFAC is purporting. Good luck!

  • 784. Adjourn Ogden  |  April 8, 2016 at 8:39 am

    @782, I’m a current Ogden parent and the place is a political minefield. A mess. The current principal, who is nutty, is the third one in three years. Scroll up on this thread and many parents are pulling their children out of Ogden. The principal fights with parents constantly, calls the parents hurtful names like “racist”. CEO Claypool wrote the Principal a letter and reprimanded him so the Principal will probably be gone soon. Meanwhile, instead of doing his job, the Principal has gotten his pals to run for the LSC in an attempt to save his job. He and his pals have started crazy rumors about the current LSC so people vote them out. There was a forum the other night and people who don’t even have children at the school were there to fight. The teachers are all aware of this situation and it really effects their morale, of course. Personally, I would go to Franklin. At Ogden, there is just one very weak music program. The assemblies could not be more boring.

  • 785. Rebecca Wells  |  April 8, 2016 at 9:06 am

    At what point is it appropriate to reach out to schools to see where they are as far as accepted offers and movement on the waitlist? I don’t want to be a pest, but the wait is killing me!

  • 786. Chinadoll  |  April 8, 2016 at 9:18 am

    @785, it depends on your wait list number and the school popularity. They want to fill their spots as much as you do and they know where to find you. Also, pay attention to cps obsessed as people start reporting what number they are and what seats they were offered. Don’t make overworked people more harassed by calling constantly.

  • 787. Rebecca Wells  |  April 8, 2016 at 9:35 am

    @786 – Proximity #10 at a fairly popular school. I *know* they are supposed to go down the waitlist in order but, as someone alluded to before, who’s checking to make sure they actually do that?

    I know someone who is at the same school and she called consistently to check on waitlist movement…the administrator at the school said she had put “two stars” next to her name to indicate her interest…and that makes me nervous.

  • 788. Oscar Mayer Dad  |  April 8, 2016 at 9:43 am

    @782 Undecided

    I would offer this opinion, if I was the one facing your decision. Since you are currently a parent at Ogden I’m sure you have your own opinion of that school and its leadership – negative like mine and others here, or positive like yet another few that posts on here. But you are definitely choosing between two schools that both have big questions and uncertainty. Personally, I believe that Ogden will go even deeper down the drain if the LSC is taken over by the crazy group trying to do that, attacking the current LSC members in the process, and there are many examples of illegal electioneering going on. If the mom who has been going to the press with the unfounded charges of rampant racism among parents at the school is on the LSC next year then Ogden will be lost for a generation. In my opinion.

    Anyway, since you are choosing between your neighborhood school and a magnet I think it would be an easy decision. Take a chance on the magnet (Franklin). It could go either way with a new principal, they could come in a fix all the issues that are the reason the current principal was not renewed, or they could make it even worse.

    But if you like it there then you could probably get your other kid in the next year on the sibling lottery. If you don’t like it you can always enroll in Ogden at any time. If you turn down the Franklin spot you’ll never get the chance again.

    And I’m not sure what that pro-Ogden poster was talking about re: “diverse background.” Franklin is a more racially and economically diverse school than Ogden. They also achieve comparable scores but are starting with a less privileged population. That says something to me.

    The claim of Ogden’s “administrative transparency” also made me snicker.

  • 789. Oscar Mayer Dad  |  April 8, 2016 at 9:45 am

    @785 Rebecca Wells

    You’re running for the Ogden LSC but trying to get your kids out of there?

  • 790. GalileoMom  |  April 8, 2016 at 9:49 am

    @761/Bronzeville Mom

    I just sent you an email 🙂

  • 791. NW  |  April 8, 2016 at 9:51 am

    Anybody know how much the Blaine waitlist moves? My son is waitlisted at #10 general. He is going into 2nd grade. Thanks!

  • 792. smpt  |  April 8, 2016 at 9:55 am

    @782 Undecided – I’m a Franklin parent with 5th graders and coordinated our new buddy program this past fall. I can put you in touch with a current K family to let you know about their K experience if you would like. I also agree with the advice of poster #788, if Ogden is your neighborhood school you could always try Franklin for K and then figure which path to go down. I think both our K teachers are great, very organized and nurturing.

  • 793. Rebecca Wells  |  April 8, 2016 at 9:57 am

    @789 Oscar Mayer Dad…

    Nope – stories must be getting mixed up. 🙂

    We’re hoping for Thorp, and I was curious as to how soon I should check in with the administration to see how far along they are (we’re #10 proximity).

  • 794. Oscar Mayer Dad  |  April 8, 2016 at 10:00 am

    Sorry, mistaken identity.

  • 795. Adjourn Ogden  |  April 8, 2016 at 10:02 am

    @780-OMDad, there are two Rebecca Wells. The one a few posts up is from the nw side. The other one, who is running for the O LSC, posts under another name. She writes like she talks, she is easy to identify. She is also one of the only “pro Ogden” posters on here. She is also part of the illegal electioneering group that is going to get her booted off the LSC, if she wins.

  • 796. Bomie  |  April 8, 2016 at 10:05 am

    For Prek-3, we are Waitlist #1 in tier 3 for Mayer.

    I’m super excited about the prospect, but also trying to be understanding that it may not move at all.

    Mayer parents: If you were waitlisted in the past and got a call, do you remember if they called during spring break? We have big travel plans the week of 4/25, and being so high on the waitlist, I am nervous they will call and move-on if we don’t pick up the phone. Should I call/email the school and explain this, or should I just continue to be patient?

  • 797. Rebecca Wells  |  April 8, 2016 at 10:06 am

    Wait…I have a doppleganger?!? Yikes. 😛

  • 798. Oscar Mayer Dad  |  April 8, 2016 at 10:07 am


    …and the person who throws around the baseless charges of racism, among her other vile behavior.

  • 799. Sue  |  April 8, 2016 at 10:07 am

    Applied for K to Norwood Park and Edision Regional Gifted….Question about Norwood Park Magnet…We were waitlisted #46. Does she have a chance getting into this school? Also, my daughter scored 99-Reading, and 89 Math…didn’t get in to selective enrollment. Is it possible for a spot to open up for Edison after April 15th? Has this happened to anyone?

  • 800. Oscar Mayer Dad  |  April 8, 2016 at 10:13 am

    I’m 100% sure you are a better person than the Ogden Rebecca Wells, sorry to have accused you of being her. She’s worked her butt off to divide an already fractured parent community for some sort of cynical agenda that I’m still unclear to what end. She’s not THE reason we left Ogden, but parents like her were certainly a factor in our decision to get out mid-year (we uprooted our lives and moved apartments to get out of there).

  • 801. Veteran  |  April 8, 2016 at 10:14 am

    @Oscar Mayer Dad 788.

    “And I’m not sure what that pro-Ogden poster was talking about re: “diverse background.” Franklin is a more racially and economically diverse school than Ogden. ”

    Respectfully, This didn’t bode well for my family. While my children added to the diversity factor, they were subjected to too much of the disruptive (and at times) violent behaviors of certain students. There were A LOT of disruptive students during our tenure, and Administration did nothing to address these issues. Lots of cover-ups.
    I would be remiss to not mention our family’s experience at Franklin. Doesn’t mean it will be everyone’s experience.

    “The claim of Ogden’s “administrative transparency” also made me snicker.”

    LOL! Poor wording on my part. I should have said IN MY EXPERIENCE, Ogden is/ was leaps bounds ahead of Franklin in terms of transparency. Given that I’m BY NO MEANS pro Principal Beyer, that’s saying a lot.
    I honestly found him to be more forthcoming than Smagacz and company over at Franklin.

    With Smagacz out now (and hopefully Beyer too !) by next school year, there’s really no way to tell what each school will look like in the fall.

  • 802. Dee  |  April 8, 2016 at 10:23 am

    We accepted a seat at Skinner North for this fall. It will open up seats for y’all at Hamilton, Columbus and LaSalle 2 if anyone is obsessing over the waitlist! Good luck. I am so glad this has been settled (for this year, anyway) and we don’t have to move to the suburbs that I cried myself to sleep last night.

  • 803. Adjourn Ogden  |  April 8, 2016 at 10:26 am

    @800, OMD, lucky you left Ogden. I should have sold popcorn for the Ogden LSC forum/freak show this week. I could have made millions! The Ogden principal actually gave Rebecca Wells access to the constant contact CPS software so she could promote her LSC candidacy to the whole school. It’s flagrant electioneering. And illegal. The Friends of Ogden were involved in this disaster and had to cancel their spring fundraiser or risk losing their 501 tax status. These are the people, acting unethically and illegally, who are trying their damndest to “run” Ogden. “Run into the ground” more accurate.

  • 804. OgdenParent2016  |  April 8, 2016 at 10:50 am

    It will be a very interesting summer at Ogden. Our first year Principal prides himself on the fact he replaced nearly half of the teachers at his old school. I am concerned many of our great teachers will jump ship or be shown the door. Teachers who were not supportive of his merger plan are afraid. There are also teachers he has accused of racial bias and outright antagonism toward black students. What a mess!

  • 805. Test Scores  |  April 8, 2016 at 10:53 am

    The LSC process (while vastly superior to a system with no accountability to parents) strikes me as extremely vulnerable.

    It seems like a system that requires very strong leadership to be done transparently. Hearing more and more horror stories about either (A) “control freak” principals that want to keep it quiet that the LSC maintains hiring/firing power over them and stock the board with their supporters and (B) crazy parents that want to come in and do a full “take over” to promote whatever their own agenda is.

    Does anyone have a positive story about good communication, a consensus building approach, well attended LSC meetings / elections, low turnover?

  • 806. MOM7373  |  April 8, 2016 at 10:55 am

    780. Eightbooksorbust, I had a daughter at Disney K-1 grade and we ended up pulling her out to a more traditional school. She was just too distracted by what the other teachers were doing. It was obvious from homework that she didn’t understand the lesson and when pressed my daughter would confess that she was focusing more on the book the teacher in the next classroom was reading or was listening into teacher in the next to her who was always yelling. The teacher next door was new and per my daughter’s teacher “had classroom management challenges” and doesn’t work there anymore. The pods do work well most of the time but any issue with one classroom can affect the whole pod. Disney seems to have significant turnover with teachers and most of the new teachers come straight from college.
    I really didn’t care for the administration. There is very little communication. My daughter was moved to a lower reading group with a new teacher and I wasn’t warned ahead of time. I would have prepared her for it. I ended up picking her up from school with her in tears saying she was stupid. Even at K, the kids are very aware of who is gifted and who isn’t.
    That being said my daughter still has friends at Disney and their parents are very happy, especially those in the Gifted program. This was my experience and to be honest my daughter still has difficult focusing. However, it’s been so much easier with a classroom with walls and a door.

  • 807. Adjourn Ogden  |  April 8, 2016 at 11:06 am

    Oh one other thing I forgot that Wells and her klan also recruited this pastor, Wes Smedley, to run for the LSC board. He operates a church on the 1400 block on Dearborn. I would assume he is getting all of his congregation to vote for him. I guess it’s not illegal to politic to your congregation but if I were a member of his church, I wouldn’t like it one bit. I went on the church website and while all other staff have Bios, this Reverend Wes has no Bio on his own website. I’m very uncomfortable with no bio on his website. Just kind of mysteriously shows up, runs a church and now running for the Ogden board.

  • 808. apmommy  |  April 8, 2016 at 11:06 am

    @MOM7373 thank you for sharing your Disney story, I was wondering how the pods worked with so many classes in one open space

  • 809. Edgebrook mom  |  April 8, 2016 at 11:06 am

    Edgebrook parent here. Edgebrook will not call for K off the wait list until right before labor day at the very earliest. Most calls are actually placed after the start of school through the first 2 weeks as they wait for all the neighborhood kids to settle in.

    In the past few years, Edgebrook has taken around 10-15 kids out of neighborhood for K, but I’m not certain how many of those are sibling preferences — maybe 1/2??

    I’m not certain how far they go down the waitlist as it is entirely dependent on how many families don’t want to start over after they have already started somewhere else. I would say that if your list number is over 20, your chances are probably pretty slim. I do know that they ask you not to call, as they really don’t make any calls/have any info until August at the earliest.

    For the older grades, in our experience, not more than 1-2 children have joined each class each year. All the classes are full, so you might have a slim chance for 1st grade, but rarely after that. Until 7th-8th grade, when you have a chance again as quite a few students go off to the academic centers (Taft, Lane, etc.).

  • 810. OgdenParent2016  |  April 8, 2016 at 11:08 am

    805. I think perhaps having staggered terms would help the make or break nature of these LSC elections. Also not sure why non-parent community members can vote for parent reps. At Ogden there is fear that outside community groups will turn up to vote in the Principal’s pro-merger slate in the name of social justice.

  • 811. Selena King  |  April 8, 2016 at 11:10 am

    @805 my child will just be entering K in the fall but I have been a member of Simeon’s LSC as a community member for about 7 -8 years and every time I don’t tun or try not to run my phone rings off the hook because one thing I am is fair, no one gets a free pass to do whatever they want. I was the organizer behind our last principal selection and I think it is important to make sure you have a variety of people on the LSC but to have people that know the number 1 goal is for the children of the school to get a quality education. We went from being on probation for like a decade to being a level 1 school because we made sure we picked the best candidate and we hold him accountable. There will always be people who complain and have issues but the data and the growth of the school will speak for it’s self.

  • 812. Escape from Witch Mountain  |  April 8, 2016 at 11:12 am

    I want to second everything 806, MOM7373, said. We had our son at Disney for K, he was in the gifted class, and we pulled him out as soon as we could.

    Disney is a good place for kids who have no attention or sensory issues. It’s terrible for kids with any attention issues, though. The noise in the pods, combined with the disdain the principal has for special education (she does not support the special ed teachers at all), make for a miserable experience for these kinds of kids. The roughest part is that in K, most ADHD kids are not quite at the point of a diagnosis, so it’s hard to tell going in that this will be an awful fit for your kid long-term.

    I would seriously caution anyone who’s looking at Disney, if your kid appears like he or she might have emerging attention issues, be very wary.

    I’ll also second everything the mom above said about the teacher turnover, the lack of communication from the administration, and I would add that the principal is a nightmare, very old school (she hates recess, insists that children be silent in the halls, and at lunch, has a culture in which there is group punishment if any kids are misbehaving, etc.) She needs to retire, but even once she leaves, she has poisoned the culture. We have a family member who was a teacher there the same time we were there (left right after we did, too), and it was interesting (in a sad way) comparing horror stories from the parents side versus the teachers’ side.

    The technology there is generous, yes, but it seems like they’re using lots of bells and whistles to cover up the fundamental misery of trying to teach children in a very rigid, cold environment. I’m not wholly convinced that more screens improve educational outcomes, anyway.

  • 813. Adjourn Ogden  |  April 8, 2016 at 11:17 am

    @810, agree 100% about staggered LSC elections. It keeps continuity and it would prevent the nonsense going on with the Ogden elections.

  • 814. Selena King  |  April 8, 2016 at 11:21 am

    non parent community reps can not vote for parent reps and they can’t be the chair or vice-chair either.

  • 815. Oscar Mayer Dad  |  April 8, 2016 at 11:26 am


    Non-parent community members CAN vote for 5 candidates from the parent and community slate, same as the parents.

  • 816. Selena King  |  April 8, 2016 at 11:26 am

    I think every 2 years is fine but the issue becomes when vacancies happen before that and the LSC doesn’t do a fair job at picking new members. It should be posted and a open process to fill replacements.

  • 817. Selena King  |  April 8, 2016 at 11:28 am

    I have never voted for a parent. I need to go look this up!

  • 818. Adjourn Ogden  |  April 8, 2016 at 11:35 am

    @816, an LSC vacancy wouldn’t be a big issue. Just call a special election. Obviously, changes in LSC procedures would have to change district wide, but just decide on how vacancies are handled, and follow the rules so it’s fair to everyone.

  • 819. Oscar Mayer Dad  |  April 8, 2016 at 11:39 am

    @ 817 Selena King

    “In the Election, parents and community members will have the opportunity to vote for up to 5 candidates for 8 positions on your school’s LSC (6 parent members and 2 community members) and school staff will have the opportunity to vote for up to 2 candidates for 3 positions on the LSC (2 teacher members and 1 non-teacher staff member).”


  • 820. Selena King  |  April 8, 2016 at 11:55 am

    @ 819 is that new? and is this only this way for the open elections or every time filling a position?

  • 821. Oscar Mayer Dad  |  April 8, 2016 at 12:05 pm

    I don’t know the answer to those questions, this will be my first LSC election (1st grader, only child) so I don’t know if it is a change.

    I believe each LSC gets to decide in their own bylaws how to fill vacancies, but from what I hear most just appoint a replacement rather than have a special election.

  • 822. NicVit  |  April 8, 2016 at 12:40 pm

    Can anyone give some insight on Beaubien. (That is our home school)
    We’re #7 on tier 4 for D2 (first choice), but I’m not holding my breath. We’re in the 50’s for O. Thorp so also not looking promising. Thanks!

  • 823. 3isacharm  |  April 8, 2016 at 12:42 pm

    Selena King from what I hear about Owen good school ruff kids.Any truth to this?And is it a quite school?Thanks just trying to get as much info.as possible.

  • 824. Selena King  |  April 8, 2016 at 1:11 pm

    In the pass for replacements we have always taken applications and then decided who to elect as a group.

  • 825. Selena King  |  April 8, 2016 at 1:12 pm

    3isacharm I just asked my daughter’s pre-school teacher now. I will let you know.

  • 826. 2nd Round Mom  |  April 8, 2016 at 1:17 pm

    #787 Rebecca Well

    Just curious,
    Was the 2 stars or good or bad thing for that family? How did they find out?

  • 827. Rebecca Wells  |  April 8, 2016 at 1:42 pm

    @826 2nd Round Mom…

    I assume it was the school’s way of marking that the family was very interested in receiving an offer. They got in. They were #8 on the list. I’m not sure if the stars actually meant anything in the long run, but the very idea of them being given 2 stars for checking in frequently is scary to me…does the school give preference to people who show more interest? That shouldn’t be the case at all.

  • 828. JenRN  |  April 8, 2016 at 3:03 pm

    Just turned down a Kindergarten spot at Jahn via email (contacted via email today). We were #55 on the general list. Good luck all!

  • 829. Selena King  |  April 8, 2016 at 3:15 pm

    3isacharm she said she feels like the kids are nice and respectable she raves about Owen all the time. Her son is a 1st grader and he had been there since K.

  • 830. 3isacharm  |  April 8, 2016 at 3:23 pm

    Selna King thanks for info. again.The school said there is no tours.And I was welcomed to check out LSC meeting. Just had me a little concerned but, Im definitely going now.Hope they’ll let me check out the.class if we get a offer and its not break or summer.

  • 831. Selena King  |  April 8, 2016 at 3:40 pm

    Definitely check out the LSC meeting you can see how they function and if you are feeling the vibe.

  • 832. fm  |  April 8, 2016 at 3:53 pm

    @762 – I couldn’t agree with you more. We jumped ship last year and transferred to Disney. The difference is like night and day. We were at Drummond for 4 school years and each year become more disappointing than the last. We were stuck (due to the limited spots available at other good schools and how hard it is to get a kid into another school after the entry year) and even considered private school just to get out. Fortunately we were finally offered a spot elsewhere and are extremely pleased with our choice to move.

  • 833. apmommy  |  April 8, 2016 at 3:57 pm

    @ 3isacharm and Selena King, do you know when the next owen LSC meeting is scheduled, I called there too, and was told no tours but attend meeting?

    I was also a little concerned about the students safety. there is a survey from U of C called 5 essential that break down the climate of each CPS school and under safety- some students (more than I would have liked to see) surveyed from the 6-8th grade felt bullied, threatened or pick up. it was around the national average for all the other schools, but the percentage was higher than other schools on my short list. The younger kids were not included in the survey, so it is nice to know that Selena King’s contact is happy there . But I would love to visit a LSC meeting to get a better idea

  • 834. apmommy  |  April 8, 2016 at 3:57 pm

    picked on , not pick up

  • 835. fm  |  April 8, 2016 at 4:00 pm

    @745 – last year we were wait listed for Galileo for 2nd grade and 36th on the wait list and were called in August. I hope that gives you hope. I did my due diligence before I turned it down (we had another option that worked better for us). I do know the math program is outstanding….and they have a comprehensive gifted program. The Galileo families I spoke with were very pleased with the school…..but there have been administration changes…..so look into that.

  • 836. ProspectiveDisneyMom  |  April 8, 2016 at 4:02 pm

    How do you feel about the pod system at Disney? Also, do they offer Spanish, swimming and recess? If so, are they for all grades? Thanks in advance for your insight.

  • 837. fm  |  April 8, 2016 at 4:08 pm

    @780 – my son is also a wiggly kid and has thrived this past year at Disney….he transferred into 2nd grade. The teacher calls me with solutions to help him and not complaints. The principal is not warm and fuzzy but she works her rear off for the school. There is not fundraiser as a result of her years of efforts to secure money for the school and build reserves. The teachers are well organized, highly responsive and fair. This comes from my perspective and experience with those I’ve encountered at the school. The aftercare is great too.

    I’m not sure what your options are, but Disney is a great choice. They have a gifted program too if your kiddo is a high performer.

    Good luck.

  • 838. fm  |  April 8, 2016 at 4:16 pm

    @prospectivedisneymom – no language unless the kid is in gifted. the pod system didn’t bother my son who has attention issues believe it or not…..well, to be honest, he said he does get distracted at times, but he’s in gifted and gets good grades so it hasn’t affected him academically. you know your child….so make that decision yourself. I have been in the school during the day volunteering and it is surprisingly quiet at times too.

    if you read the responses, there are families that didn’t like Disney for their child so sorry to confuse things for you.

    we had a good experience, but are ultimately leaving due to an offer at Edison that we can’t pass up.

    good luck

  • 839. Potential Pritzker  |  April 8, 2016 at 4:53 pm

    Does anyone have their kid(s) in FA at Pritzker? Curious about the culture and general environment for kids in the FA neighborhood side of Pritzker v. the RGC side. Particularly interested in hearing from parents that have a child in both programs.

  • 840. 3isacharm  |  April 8, 2016 at 7:12 pm

    Apmommy & Selena King the PAC & LSC are the April 28 begins @ 5:30. But double check web page.I plan to attend. I emailed Principle no response. I’m interested if 3rd grade is quite ,and what teachers is like?And if it’s a diverse group. More girls? Or boys? They said sibbling list is priority.And a little concerned with a commute.Selena thank you for your insight.

  • 841. motherof2only1gotchosen  |  April 8, 2016 at 9:37 pm

    Are there any Edgebrook families? I have questions my 1st grader is wait listed #17 general. What are her chances? And how is the school in general including after school?
    I am accepting an offer for my kindergartner to o.a Thorp and passing on Disney for K. I am feeling bad for my 1st grader she got wait listed on all 10 schools we applied for.

  • 842. #chopinparkmommA  |  April 8, 2016 at 9:49 pm

    General child is enter 3rd grade
    Offered at Lasalle II
    Waitlisted for:
    Pulaski 20
    O. Thorp 28
    Disney II 117
    Coonley 91

    We accepted the offer at Lasalle II, does that mean we are now off the wait list?
    Does anyone have a feel for the chances of getting into O. Thorp?

    I’m completely new to the cps game, we’ve been at Catholic school since preschool. I chose LaSalle II based on a recco from a friend who is a teacher thinking it was close to me (portage park, Belmont and central). I dropped the application today, it is 25 mins with zero traffic. Is the school worth a possible 45 min commute? I’m sorry if I sound ignorant or like a brat, I’m just wondering what other parents would do? We could possibly keep him in the catholic school for one more year, but money is tight right now…and they have raised our tuition every year. So is LaSalle II a great choice no matter where you live is it worth it to everyone? Can I still hold hope for O. Thorp? What about my other wait list choices?
    I feel like I really messed up and hurried to choose the schools without really looking into them. I know, I know, dumb.

  • 843. Thoughts on commute time  |  April 8, 2016 at 10:53 pm

    Commute can greatly affect quality of life. I can tell you this from experience! I do recommend avoiding a long commute if there are other acceptable options available to you closer to home. We currently have the type of commute you describe and are actively working to change that. Whether or not the commute is worth it may depend on what your other options are.

  • 844. Jesus  |  April 8, 2016 at 11:24 pm

    Do you want your child to learn a foreign language? Lasalle 2 has 5 different language offerings. It’s just a bit west of the Division exit off the Kennedy.

  • 845. EverPatient  |  April 9, 2016 at 12:18 am

    @#chopinparkmommA – Commute time can be a killer. Having lived that the past few years, in general, you can be dealing with a 20-30 min average commute with a school 3-4 miles away, and can be dealing with 45-60 min commute for schools 5-6 miles away. City driving during the school rush hours is no joke!

    I think Lasalle II from Portage Park would be a pretty big strain on your family – especially as Lasalle II is one of the few magnets that *does not* offer bus service. And even if it did, your child would easily be on the bus over an hour one way (with all the stops).

    That said, every family’s situation is different, and you’ll need to weigh everything else (including any other offers you get).

    To your question, you will remain on all other wait lists even if you accept one (or more) schools. It’s more on your honor to try and not hold too many seats you know you won’t take (so that others who are desperately waiting can get off the lists sooner). That said, there’s nothing stopping you from accepting multiple schools, and then dropping those you don’t want.

  • 846. Agutfeelingaboutthisone  |  April 9, 2016 at 8:28 am

    @845 are you saying that you can/people do say “yes” to more than one school at a time? i guess in theory you can, because the neighborhood and magnet schools aren’t “talking” to each other. hmm. interesting.

  • 847. JenRN  |  April 9, 2016 at 10:51 am

    Re: accepting more than one offer to hold spaces and decide… I feel silly it never occurred to me that people would do that. It just crushed me to think anyone would.

  • 848. Jesus  |  April 9, 2016 at 11:06 am

    @847, I don’t think that is a widespread practice to hold on to everything. But it does happen for less than nefarious reasons. In my case, the school I am assigned to and the magnet we were accepted in are going through principal selection. I’m accepting the magnet for now to see how it shakes out this summer. By August, I’ll release one of them. With CPS in such transition, I bet there are a lot of people like me.

  • 849. Julia  |  April 9, 2016 at 11:35 am

    Jesus, I guess you CAN do that, I’ve never heard of anyone doing that though, and it’s pretty shabby behavior when there are many, many families waiting for a single offer. You can tell yourself that there are “a lot of people like” you, but that doesn’t mean there are, and it remains a really anti-social stunt to pull.

  • 850. 3isacharm  |  April 9, 2016 at 11:36 am

    Does anyone know if LSC doesn’t agree how long does it take. For CPS to appointment someone?

  • 851. Jesus  |  April 9, 2016 at 11:43 am

    @849 Julia–so what would you do? I have two schools that are in transition, I want what is best for my child. I can’t possibly make an informed decision at this point. Would you just say eenie meenie? And, lots of people may be waiting for offers but they always have their neighborhood school.

  • 852. Julia  |  April 9, 2016 at 11:47 am

    I would do as much research as possible, then make a decision by the deadline.

  • 853. Jesus  |  April 9, 2016 at 11:54 am

    Well, I did that. I did as much as I could. But I’m not on the LSC at either school. And my psychic abilities are not as keen as I wish they were. And at the end of the day, my child comes before any other child, and I think that is the way it should be. And if you want to be Julia Judgement, I can do that too. In my opinion, for you to be so concerned with other families over your own child makes me advise you to save a lot of money for your child’s future therapy needs.

  • 854. LSmom  |  April 9, 2016 at 12:54 pm

    Can you really hold onto spots for that long? We accepted a new offer a few years ago, and they couldn’t make the switch until the old school released us from the system (well before August).

  • 855. Selena King  |  April 9, 2016 at 1:08 pm

    3isacharm, if the process is on the up and up cps won’t intervene unless necessary or if the school is on probation.

    lsc’s are reasons why all parents should be involved in the schools if all possible because if no one is paying attention it can be more political then about the kids.

  • 856. 3isacharm  |  April 9, 2016 at 1:29 pm

    Selena King yes I believe it’s politics. And not the best interest of school or kids. Or just to high of expectations. They say it might go downtown if they can’t agree on principal selection. Any idea on time line if it comes to that?

  • 857. Jen K  |  April 9, 2016 at 1:31 pm

    Schools don’t “talk” to,each other regarding acceptances, but you can only be assigned to one school in the Student Information Management system used by CPS. For new students, a record is created by the school at which you turned in an acceptance. If you turn in another acceptance, the 2nd school will request the first school to “release” the student. At some schools, that can happen immediately, others may take their time based on staff resources.

    For existing CPS students, you would be “projected” to the newly accepted school by your existing school. Again, if you accepted a spot a second (new) school, your existing school will receive a request to change the projection. Parents/guardians have to give the current school approval to make any changes.

    However, importantly, if one of your options is your assigned neighborhood school,you can walk in anytime and register. You don’t need to “accept” and hold a position; it’s always available to you.

  • 858. Selena King  |  April 9, 2016 at 1:37 pm

    how long have they been tryimg to decide on a principal? cps will appoint someone and it won’t be anyone on their list so hopefully they get it together.

  • 859. 3isacharm  |  April 9, 2016 at 2:10 pm

    Selena King 2 months. LSC need 6 they have 4. From my understanding this is 3rd admittin principle.Vote was conducted for parent, staff & community. Parents want other candidate &staff wants current.Any idea?No probation.

  • 860. WhenDoesItEnd?  |  April 9, 2016 at 2:15 pm

    Previous posters are correct-once things get into the system, it becomes an effort in changing around the assigned school. That said, I was thinking more about people who get a a SEES acceptance, a magnet acceptance, a neighborhood acceptance, and then their own neighborhood school. And then when you start getting phone calls for other waitlist, there is a likely chance that you will accept something, and then need to do the due diligence of dropping other schools, but ultimately, there is a period of time or you may have a few schools that you have said yes to, before the paperwork is at the right place.

  • 861. Jen K  |  April 9, 2016 at 2:29 pm

    @860 saying “yes” to a school requires you to turn in the official form and the school then claims the student in the system. you can stay on the SEES list and individual magnet/neighborhood lists, but you can only accept one at a time. Especially with SEES offers which go through central office. I don’t think most people accept multiple new offers…I think it’s more the opposite. They accept one and turn down new ones unless it’s their dream school. Totally my opinion based on reading this blog for years.

  • 862. JenK  |  April 9, 2016 at 2:55 pm

    Although now I’m told people CAN accept more than one….if a school doesn’t claim the student there is no reason why someone couldn’t accept at more than one school. Shouldn’t be allowed to but there’s nothing to stop them.

  • 863. Selena King  |  April 9, 2016 at 4:08 pm

    that is a lot an very intense. it just totally depends on the school and the details but cps really tries to stay out of it if they can but at some point the madness will have to stop. before i got there they had major issues and a split on who it was totally a mess.

  • 864. MCV  |  April 9, 2016 at 4:17 pm

    Does anyone know what our chances are at Coonley neighborhood program. We are Wait listed #12 general. And thoughts on this school. Thanks.

  • 865. Momma  |  April 9, 2016 at 5:00 pm

    @ Jesus

    Be careful accepting both a neighborhood school and a magnet. You might think you’re being clever, but the central office computers at CPS might boot you out of one of the schools once the schools key in the student ID numbers into the system. The schools don’t talk to each other, but the system is centralized.

  • 866. Jesus  |  April 9, 2016 at 5:07 pm

    Momma, you worry about your family and I will worry about mine.

  • 867. alwayfollowtherules  |  April 9, 2016 at 7:48 pm

    Jesus….really. I worked and volunteered at Disney Magnet for years. Once they enter your child’s cps ID# that’s is it. You can only accpetnone offer. They will not hold 2 slots for the same child CPS school repor and use the same computerzed system. If you accept more than one offer you run a real chance of losing both of your offers I have seen this happen to so many families. You can say what your doing is not wrong because it’s for your child but in the end you can and will be caugh. Cheating never gets anyone anywhere. For shame.

  • 868. alwaysfollowtherules  |  April 9, 2016 at 7:55 pm

    I am passing on Disney Magnet accepting O.A. Thorp for kindergarten hope this gives someone hope karma if you are listening…please let a slot open at Edgebrook fornmy other daughter she is wait listed #17. See not accepting or holding 2 offers. It is not hard to do the right thing. Hint hint.

  • 869. Jesus  |  April 9, 2016 at 8:00 pm

    I just don’t care what you people say. I have my own set of circumstances as does everyone else. I am doing the extremely right thing and if you don’t agree, write a letter in detail and mail it to someone that gives a damn.

  • 870. ncwmolden  |  April 9, 2016 at 8:08 pm

    It’s anyone familiar with Clinton elementary? We are on the waiting list at around 17 or 18.

  • 871. Hoping  |  April 9, 2016 at 9:03 pm

    Anyone have any insight on Columbus? We accepted an offer but would love some feedback. Have a few low wait list numbers.

  • 872. chill  |  April 10, 2016 at 10:07 am

    I don’t think Jesus is doing anything wrong. He likely hasn’t registered his child at their neighborhood school yet as Kindergarten registration hasn’t even begun. People need to chill out.

  • 873. ChopinparkmommA  |  April 10, 2016 at 10:10 am

    Thank you to everyone that responded!
    Still holding hope for Northside Thorp!!!!!
    Enjoy your Sunday everyone!

  • 874. NearNorthMom  |  April 10, 2016 at 5:53 pm

    @842 Commute time matters a lot. If you’re working Downtown and the school is on your way, then that makes the decision easier. There are families from all over the city at LaSaalle II, The one commonality is families at the school are committed to the study of international languages and cultural. If this is important to your family then it is worth the commute. The school’s international focus and the opportunity for student trips abroad make the commute worth it for many families. Language study in Mandarin, Arabic, Spanish, or French is 4 days a week. LaSalle II families also can host students from abroad and their kids can further be exposed to World Cultures through an Artist in Residence Program for select grades. One other factor to consider, is there is a substantial body of academic research that shows children that acquire a second language score higher through out their academic career on standardized tests and increase their brain’s neural networks.. Perhaps this is why almost all other countries have children learning multiple languages early on and why students in counties like Chine, India, and Germany are prepared to learn computer languages more easily than many mono lingual American children. Hope this info is helpful. As you can tell I’m a huge fan of the Language Academy model in CPS, I know it’s hard to commute I did a 7.5 mile commute in K and wouldn’t recommend it unless it’s for curriculum you really want.

  • 875. Sutherland  |  April 10, 2016 at 8:39 pm

    Does anyone have info about Sutherland wait list how far down the list have they gone in the past?

  • 876. WestSideMama  |  April 10, 2016 at 10:02 pm

    Anyone with kids already at Andrew Jackson Language Academy? We just accepted a K spot and we’re thrilled. But I’m wondering if someone in the know could speak to some details?

    I know there are only two sports – are there other options? (After-school tuition based clubs?) What is the after-care situation? I don’t find a lot of info about clubs or activities.

    Is there a lot of parent involvement? How have things been with the principal transition?

    Can anyone speak to how kids with sensory processing issues may fare in this school?

    Any insight into the culture would be such a help. Thank you!

  • 877. irishmom  |  April 11, 2016 at 10:58 am

    Any current Peirce families who can share their experience? We are looking for a warm, nurturing, fun and challenging environment.

  • 878. AK  |  April 11, 2016 at 11:20 am

    I know a couple of families at Peirce and they love it. It seems like a school with positive momentum, and excitement about the IB program. Best way to know is to go see it in person, if you can.

  • 879. RL Julia  |  April 11, 2016 at 11:31 am

    @445/544 – sent both my kids to Murphy and was on the LSC for a long time. It is a great school. Both my kids had amazing teachers, the community is wonderful, the kids who go to Murphy are the nicest and the principal is phenomenal. Can’t recommend the school more. For what it is worth, both kids went on to AC’s and SEHS’s. Their Murphy educations allowed for a seamless transfer to those schools and they really benefitted from all the things going to a neighborhood school can confer. Not many people know about Murphy so be prepared to explain or for them not to get what a great place the school is.

  • 880. irishmom  |  April 11, 2016 at 11:53 am

    Thanks, 878!

  • 881. Mom  |  April 11, 2016 at 12:00 pm

    I’ll do a another plug for Murphy. My niece goes to Murphy and her test scores are consistently very high. She’s very articulate and lively and I think the school worked well for her. Her friends are also really nice kids. Our wait list number at Murphy is pretty high and we’re settled on a school that gave us an offer, but I’d send my kids to Murphy.

  • 882. AnotherCPSParent  |  April 11, 2016 at 12:31 pm

    @879, 881. Thank you for the feedback! We were impressed with Murphy when we went on our tour, but it just flies completely under the radar. I believe they only started graduating 8th graders in 2012, but it seems like they send a lot of kids to SEHSs (mostly Lane, probably since it’s just down the street).

  • 883. CPSAppalled  |  April 11, 2016 at 12:42 pm


    My child has been at Peirce for two years now, in the middle school. We have seen very positive changes with the new principal, Lori Zaimi, and the new asst. principal, Virag Nanavati. Academically we are very pleased, and impressed with the school’s approach to special education. We have also been impressed with the professionalism of the teachers, and their willingness to stay after school to help kids or meet with parents.

    Some kids are nice, some are not, but the new administration is committed to changing the culture in a positive way, and is doing the right things. The families of younger children that I talk to are very pleased for the most part. Most teachers seem engaged and caring. No one seems happy with homework, but I think you will find that at every school!

    One of the things that I like best about Peirce is the involvement and interest of the parents. There are many active parent groups, which is not something you find every day. Come for a tour to get a feel for the school.

  • 884. irishmom  |  April 11, 2016 at 12:44 pm

    @883, that’s very helpful. Thank you.

  • 885. Agassiz mom  |  April 11, 2016 at 1:42 pm

    Has anyone moved from a RGC to a magnet how was it?

  • 886. Non Entry Level  |  April 11, 2016 at 10:37 pm

    Hi everyone,

    We found out last week that, due to circumstances beyond our control, we are going to have to move sometime in the next couple of months. As much as I hate moving, I realize this opens up some possibilities for neighborhood schools.

    So: does anyone want to sell me on a school? I work roughly in the West Loop, and our other kid goes to school in Near North, so those are our only commute considerations (my spouse works from home).

    Our child loves languages, so we would love to see him in a dual language or language academy school (but are open to all possibilities, at this point).

    Thoughts, suggestions?

  • 887. parent  |  April 12, 2016 at 10:37 am

    @886, You’ve missed the application deadline for magnet schools like Jackson and LaSalle, which are the closest language academies to you.

    You’ll probably need to provide a little more information for people to give you helpful advice about choosing a neighborhood school. Are you renting? Buying? Do you need to be close to public transportation? Other considerations?

    Some popular neighborhood schools that would be pretty convenient for you include: Skinner West, South Loop, Prescott, Alcott

  • 888. Lina  |  April 12, 2016 at 10:39 am

    876. Andrew Jackson Language Academy is terrific! In answer to your question, there are a multitude of after-school programs. JatSchool is a tuition-based program, Afterschool All-Stars has many free programs including Girls on the Run and Battle of the Books. Feel free to contact the office with any questions–Maggie K. in the front office is an amazing ambassador.

  • 889. madedeux  |  April 12, 2016 at 10:47 am

    @Agassiz mom, I moved both of my kids from RGC to magnet. I’ve never regretted that choice. I’m a lot less invested in the “gifted” label than a some parents, though. My kids have done well, and continue to be challenged and inspired.

  • 890. Non Entry Level  |  April 12, 2016 at 2:46 pm

    @887 parent:

    Thanks for your response! We did apply to Jackson and LaSalle (and LaSalle II), and were (eventually) waitlisted at 389, 193, and 252 (for 1st grade). So those are pretty clearly out.

    We are renting, and would prefer to be close to public transportation, but it’s not essential.

    We toured Skinner West a few years ago and the overcrowding was so bad that classes were being held in the hallway, so I think that’s out for us. I will look at the others you suggest.

    I would love to hear from other folks who have really loved their neighborhood school! My kid is highly social, but also extremely reserved, so a school with a warm and welcoming community would be great.

  • 891. Kathleen Boyle  |  April 12, 2016 at 9:54 pm

    Does anyone know what time the 4.13.16 Shadow Day for incoming 7th graders starts at Disney 2?

  • 892. ChopinparkmommA  |  April 13, 2016 at 7:24 am

    New to CPS with a will be 3rd grader entering LaSalle II.
    I received an email stating we need to have all paperwork turned in by the 15th, birth certificate, proof of address, etc. I then saw, or thought I saw somewhere, that we need to have paperwork in by May? Which one is it? Does this take us off the waiting lists for other schools if we turn paperwork in?
    Thabks so much!

  • 893. tempest26  |  April 13, 2016 at 7:48 am

    I toured Disney yesterday and we will be turning down a K spot there. It’s not a good fit for us.

  • 894. GettingCloser  |  April 13, 2016 at 7:54 am

    Apologies if this was already covered, but does anybody know if Schools may be calling off of the waitlist beginning next week?

    We will be out of town without cell phone service, so I’m selfishly hoping hoping everyone making those calls is on spring break as well 🙂

  • 895. Oscar Mayer Dad  |  April 13, 2016 at 8:03 am

    @894 GettingCloser

    I think there is no way to know for sure, but since during spring break schools are closed and all staff are on vacation (someone correct me if I’m wrong, admins are off too, right?) it is hard to imagine that they would call off the wait lists during the break.

  • 896. Kathleen Boyle  |  April 13, 2016 at 8:10 am

    It is possible that they could call is early as next week. It is spring break for the teachers, but not CPS administration. I went through this with my firstborn some 13 years ago, and had my home calls forwarded to my cell phone for a week. Just use call forwarding for a week.

  • 897. 2nd Round Mom  |  April 13, 2016 at 8:20 am

    @894 Getting Closer

    Last week I emailed OAE to find out if calls for wait listers would be made during Spring Break and this was their response:

    “That is at the discretion of the schools, which each manage their own waitlists.”

    Looks like callback will vary from school to school

  • 898. Kathleen Boyle  |  April 13, 2016 at 8:28 am

    All paperwork MUST be turned in by Friday, April 15th. If your paperwork is not conpleted by April 15th, they will give your spot to someone on the waiting list.

  • 899. AnotherMayerParent  |  April 13, 2016 at 8:39 am

    I just wanted to give some parents here hope. Two years ago my son was wait listed number 32 at Mayer. We didn’t get the call until second semester that there was a spot in Pre-k 4 for him (entry is Pre-k 3). Our other child was accepted this year via sibling preference.

    Good luck to anyone on the waitlist for Mayer. It is truly a great school. Their staff and community are amazing. I love that the parents and school work early on to foster a sense of community among the families. The teachers are very dedicated to their craft. I am also amazed at the work the Friends of Mayer teams does to raise funds for the school. I don’t know any other CPS schools that can raise close to half a million dollars every year to support the school. As you consider schools, this is important to keep in mind because the bulk of the money raised goes to fund the teacher assistants in the early childhood classrooms. That means that the Pre-k 3 to K students have a 13-1 student/teacher ratio.

    Glad to answer any Mayer questions.

  • 900. AnotherMayerParent  |  April 13, 2016 at 8:47 am

    @894 GettingCloser

    the process from this point forward is handled by school staff. It is very highly unlikely that they will begin the process next week. The CPS staff knows that many Chicago families also plan their spring break next week.

    If you want to get the doubt out of your head, you can also just call the schools you have on your radar before Friday and ask when they will start calling.

  • 901. Rebecca Wells  |  April 13, 2016 at 9:46 am

    FYI…I just called Thorp O and they won’t be calling off the waitlist until the week of May 1st.

  • 902. 3isacharm  |  April 13, 2016 at 9:52 am

    Apmommy I called Owen they said LSC is April 25 6:30. I’d call and confirm. Any new info. or offers?

  • 903. UndecidedMom  |  April 13, 2016 at 10:45 am

    I toured Disney on Monday and I’m still undecided. May I ask why it’s not a good fit for your child?

  • 904. K10  |  April 13, 2016 at 10:50 am

    Turned down offer at LaSalle II – #2 on wait list

  • 905. 2nd Round Mom  |  April 13, 2016 at 10:59 am

    @901 Rebecca Wells

    Agggh,. Longest 2 weeks!! 🙂

    Really hoping on Thorp

  • 906. kate  |  April 13, 2016 at 1:23 pm

    @904 You had got offer today? I thought students on wait list would get offer two weeks later.

  • 907. Kathleen Boyle  |  April 13, 2016 at 2:44 pm

    O. A. Thorp is a terrific school! Parents are treated as part of the team, not kept at arms-length as at some other schools. My child has had so many exceptional teachers that I come to tears just thinking about it! There are so many wonderful programs and opportunities available for students here. Everything from academics to the arts to athletics and clubs!

    The “new” principal has already beenninmplace 4 years and his contract has been renewed, and he had been a breath of fresh air and has made O. A. Thorp into a wonderful place for kids to learn and grow.

    No school is perfect, but if your child should have any issues, whether it be the need for academic assistance, social struggles, or even health/wellness issues, you will find that the teachers and administrators at Thorp will work with you to find solutions. They may not have all of the answers, but will work with you to find them, and will be open to your ideas and will REALLY LISTEN.

    My child’s time at Thorp has not been easy or perfect, but at Thorp, she knows that she is safe and cared about, and has had successes that would be hard to find anywhere else!

    Thorp was a hidden treasure when we found it, and if your child gets in there, you will not be disappointed!

  • 908. Baffled Southside Mom  |  April 13, 2016 at 3:31 pm

    I am confused how the waitlist works if you have an offer and accept. Can someone please shine some light on this? We were waitlisted for the following schools under their general waitlist for my son who is entering 1st grade:

    LaSalle #24
    Sheridan #71
    STEM #266
    Inter-American #29
    Franklin #77
    Galileo #94
    Pritzker #107
    Prescott #38
    Ward #10
    Drummond #14
    Jackson #321
    LaSalle II #149

    Do I have hopes for any of the schools on the list? Also, would it recommended I try to tour any of the schools even if my son is on the waitlist? I’m new to this process and am here for some much needed guidance… TIA!

  • 909. AnotherMayerParent  |  April 13, 2016 at 3:53 pm

    If you have an offer and accept it, OAE will notify the school. The school will then contact you on next steps. For wait list, the individual schools will reach out to you based on availability. This can be days, weeks, or even months.

    Low waitlist numbers are always good. A good way to gauge how much of a chance is to look at the enrollment of the school. See the cps.edu site. For example:

    Prescott has 365 students. That means they have roughly one class for each grade level (10 grade levels x 32 kids). This means a waitlist # of 38 is high.

    Lasalle has 554 students, so that’s 2 classes per grade level. A waitlist # of 24 is not too bad, but for a school of 60-66 1st graders, it might be high.

    This is why its always best to try and apply for the entry grade level like K or Pre-K.

  • 910. KCabral  |  April 13, 2016 at 4:03 pm

    @908/Baffled Southside Mom

    My son got a 1st grade offer to Galileo for this current school year about 3 weeks before school started. He was #58 on the waitlist. You may have a slim chance there, but it probably wouldn’t be until late in the summer.

    Unfortunately, your numbers for Sheridan, Jackson, STEM and LaSalle II are not good and extremely unlikely you’ll get offers there 😦 I’m not so sure about the other schools except —

    You may have a good chance at Ward. If you haven’t heard anything in about 3 weeks, you may want to call them and see how the waitlist is moving. Good luck!!!!

  • 911. April15thDeadline  |  April 13, 2016 at 4:40 pm

    To further clarify what was posted by Kathleen Boyle @898… ALL PAPERWORK only means the initial REGISTRATION FORM that came with your letter from CPS. If you read the instructions on the back of the letter, you are only required to turn in the REGISTRATION FORM by April 15th. The subsequent paperwork you receive from the school once you turn in your registration form, can be turned in at any time.

  • 912. Elizabeth  |  April 13, 2016 at 4:51 pm

    My daughter was offered a spot at Disney II for 7th. Are there any Disney II families that can share their thoughts/experiences at this school?

  • 913. Kathleen Boyle  |  April 13, 2016 at 6:22 pm

    There was a shadow day today. My daughter observed that there is no recess, which is to be expected, as D2 7/8 is structured like a high school.

    We watched kids exiting at dismissal, and they all seemed happy. Lots of activities going on.

  • 914. Portage  |  April 13, 2016 at 9:01 pm

    Can any current OA Thorp parents provide insight about the school’s policies on discipline? Do they have an anti-bullying program? I wanted to ask at the open house but the principal cut off questions before I got a chance to ask.

  • 915. Voter  |  April 13, 2016 at 9:06 pm

    Does anyone know when the results of your school’s LSC will be announced?

  • 916. Englishmum  |  April 13, 2016 at 9:07 pm

    Has anyone been watching the royal tour in India? That crazy duchass of Cambridge really doesn’t know how to dress.

  • 917. PsyMom  |  April 13, 2016 at 10:13 pm

    @AnotherMayerParent: I’d love to hear more about Mayer. Unfortunately, we’re waitlisted in the 500’s so no chance there. But we’d consider moving to the neighborhood if it’s the right fit for our daughter who’ll be entering K. We just turned down an RGC offer at Coonley–for various reasons, we weren’t thrilled with it. We really want a Montessori program and have been offered a spot at a private school but at over $17K per year plus aftercare, we need to seriously explore other options.

    It’s nice to know that the community at Mayer is strong. How are issues like homework, testing, and grades handled? What about class sizes? Is social-emotional learning a part of their curriculum? What aftercare options are available?

  • 918. Lincoln Park Mom  |  April 13, 2016 at 11:04 pm

    Late to the game, but just want to say that we love Prescott. Went to private K and then moved for 1st grade. Prescott is our neighborhood school, and we are very happy. Involved parents and teachers. Principal and asst principal know every kid by name, and greet them personally each day. Lots of opportunities for parent involvement. We have seen tremendous academic progress this year. Before and after school offered by Right at School is a huge bonus.

  • 919. realchicagomama  |  April 14, 2016 at 12:28 am

    @912 – I have posted earlier in this thread, but currently have a 7th grader at D2 – you can email me at cpollicki at gmail dot com.

  • 920. realchicagomama  |  April 14, 2016 at 12:35 am

    @913 – yes, there is no outside recess, but the kids have a 50 minute lunch block and can do activities other than sitting in the cafeteria during lunch.

  • 921. realchicagomama  |  April 14, 2016 at 12:38 am

    @915 – You can look it up here: http://cps.edu/ScriptLibrary/Map-LSCElections2016/index.html

  • 922. Kathleen Boyle  |  April 14, 2016 at 8:56 am

    Well, that’s kind of awesome, then!!!

  • 923. AnotherMayerParent  |  April 14, 2016 at 9:21 am


    There is no “mandatory” homework for the early grades. It aligns with the Montessori curriculum. While this might seem like a bad thing it actually is working quite well for my children. ( Both of my kids’ teachers send out weekly emails detailing what was covered in class and upcoming lessons. They also give ideas on things you can be doing at home with them and send optional packets of work to do at home.

    I am a new convert to the Montessori method and have become a huge fan. My kids have become very independent and inquisitive thinkers. On the academic side, my son in Kindergarten is reading at a 2nd grade level and being introduced to multiplication tables. I think this is because the pre-k is all day and kids are immersed in learning for an extended period of time.

    Social emotional development is a big part of Montessori. What I love about it is that kids spend three years in the same classroom (pre-k 3 to K). This gives teachers an opportunity to know the kids very well and help them provide tailored supports. I also noticed that teacher tend to practice blended learning (putting kids in small groups based on ability and comprehension levels).

    If you are a parent that wants to be involved, teachers provide many opportunities to do so. From time to time, you will have opportunities to stop by the classroom and read a book, practice sight words with all the kids, and work on crafts for special events if you like.

    There are no letter grades for K and under. Assessment is based on a development rubric. I prefer it this way because the teachers do a very good job at explaining the stages of development and where kids should be at specific points.

    My kids’ classes are around 28 students. All the early grades have a full time classroom assistant (thank you fundraising!). I think the title “assistants” doesn’t do them justice. They are teachers in my opinion ( I believe many have educational degrees and/or years of experience in education).

    After school is provided by Right at School. it goes from 3:30 to 4:45 or 6. The Mayer website has a link on what is offered and prices. Once your student is in the upper grades, there are clubs and sports available.

    There is one more fundraiser coming up June 3rd. The Mayer walkathon. I would recommend you stop by for the after party (after school) It will be at Trebes Park. You will have an opportunity to experience the Mayer Community and possibly talk to Mayer parents.

    Good luck!

  • 924. Kathleen Boyle  |  April 14, 2016 at 9:26 am

    Yes, they have an anti-bullying program, and the program starts early! It wasn’t always this way, and the school has been very responsive in bringing in programs to help kids be mindful of how their actions effect others, and to give them the words and the tools to express themselves.

    Like everywhere, the Kids do need to speak up, and tell someone what is going on. If nobody knows what is happening, the school can’t help, but once the school knows, they are ON IT! The school social worker, Mr. Weiss, is wonderful, and the assistant principal, Dr. Chambers, deals with kids with sensitivity and kindness. Regard for children’s privacy is also a priority.

    The victims are supported and given tools to build themselves up and can select a “safe place” – like a favorite teacher – whom they can go to when issues arise, and that person is there to give the student support and peace-of-mind that they are safe, that they are cared about, and that they have help.

    They deal with the perpetrator privately as well, and have measures in place to help that child, too. Nobody gets “thrown under the bus”.

    It is important to remember, though, that silence is the enemy. Victims have to be brave enough to drop the code of silence and speak up, and parents need to calmly but firmly and consistently advocate for their child. While it is natural to be protective of your child – especially when he/she has been on the receiving end of mean-spiritedness, please remember to come to the school calmly to seek solutions. Leave the torch and pitchfork at home, but be prepared to ask for help.

    No school is perfect, but I think O. A. Thorp is waaaay ahead of the game in regard to bullying prevention, being responsive, and the importance of student support.

  • 925. apmommy  |  April 14, 2016 at 9:55 am

    @3isacharm. thanks for the update on the LSC meeting, The only update I have for Owen, the office stated that they start calling off waitlist Monday April 25th, the school and office will be closed during Spring Break and they do not plan on making any calls during that time.

  • 926. cpsobsessed  |  April 14, 2016 at 10:34 am

    @918: Lincoln park mom: thanks for the update on Prescott. That’s great to hear. That’s another good example of a few parents really driving a push to build a strong neighborhood option.

    Does Prescott still have room to take kindergarten kids outside the neighborhood?

  • 927. Lincoln Park Mom  |  April 14, 2016 at 11:49 am

    Re Prescott kindergarten, I have heard that there is only one class of K for next fall. We received an email a few months ago as a current family asking us to register future kindergarteners ASAP so that they knew what to do with the lottery. Obviously just depends on the number of neighborhood kids and siblings. I heard that for this past year, they would have filled one class with neighborhood and sibs.

  • 928. cpsteacherandmom  |  April 14, 2016 at 11:58 am

    To answer the question about the social-emotional component of OA Thorp, I can say that my kindergarten child has social emotional curriculum taught in her classroom. The class has something called “Mindful Minutes” where they reflect, discuss, and problem solve with each other good and bad interactions that they’ve had. They also have a SEL curriculum that uses puppets and role-play to reinact common issues that kids have with each other. I am not sure if all of the Kinder classes have this component in place, but I would assume they do because all the Kinder teachers work closely with each other and align their curriculum.

  • 929. lisajo  |  April 14, 2016 at 12:00 pm

    We toured Prescott on Tuesday and thought it was great. I can confirm that they will only have one K class this year and next year, as they are running out of room. However, they went all the way through their wait list last year (approx. 200), and do expect to fill some spots off the waitlist this year as well.

  • 930. DaniEV  |  April 14, 2016 at 12:57 pm

    Tier1 PreK

    Mayer #6
    Suder #37

    Do the tiers mean anything at these schools or am I getting lost after proximity?

    1.7 miles away from Suder ):

  • 931. teachermom  |  April 14, 2016 at 1:26 pm

    @886/890 Not Entry Level

    If languages are important to you, Darwin Elementary in Logan Square is a neighborhood school with a dual language English/Spanish program. I’m sure you could rent near the Blue Line and make that doable although the school is mid-way between tthe California and Logan Square stops.

    We are going to be attending Brentano (also a neighborhood school in Logan) in the fall, and you can search this thread to see why it’s such an amazing place, but if I had a kid super into learning a second language, I might choose Darwin.

  • 932. Marketing Mom  |  April 14, 2016 at 2:13 pm

    I understand that there will be a second round application process for magnet, magnet cluster and other elem schools beginning May 9th. How does this work if you are already on the waiting list? I understand some schools may not begin contacting students on the wait list until the summer. Does the second round process take priority?

  • 933. Kp  |  April 14, 2016 at 2:53 pm

    We are turning down a Prescott and a Jahn offer if that helps anyone 🙂

  • 934. PricklyPete  |  April 14, 2016 at 2:59 pm

    I accepted Jahn today and turned down Prescott, Disney, and British.

  • 935. cpsobsessed  |  April 14, 2016 at 3:14 pm

    @Marketing Mom – for elem? Where did you see the info on that?

  • 936. Kate P  |  April 14, 2016 at 4:51 pm

    We are going to be accepting an offer at a Magnet and may get a call for nearby elementary that has some open enrollment spots…. if we move in the future (say a few years from now), can we still attend these schools? Thanks!

  • 937. Jen K  |  April 14, 2016 at 7:10 pm

    @936 regarding magnets, since they have no boundaries, once you’re in, you’re in. Even if you move somewhere else within the city. Not sure about open enrollment neighborhood schools.

  • 938. AnotherCPSParent  |  April 14, 2016 at 8:12 pm

    We’re declining our offer at Inter-American for those interested.

  • 939. Non Entry Level  |  April 15, 2016 at 8:22 am

    @931 teachermom:

    [I thought I replied to this last night, but I don’t see the response, so maybe it never got sent? Sorry if this ends up being a duplicate!]

    Thanks so much for the suggestions of Brentano and Darwin! I will have to look into both of them. Can you tell me anything about differentiation at Brentano? Any chance you know anything about Von Linne, which is a nearby (Avondale) dual language school?

  • 940. 2nd Round Mom  |  April 15, 2016 at 8:52 am

    Just wondering what the Kdg homework load is at Thorp…Any insight

  • 941. ChiMom  |  April 15, 2016 at 8:59 am

    @938 @AnotherCPSParent: Why are you turning down your Inter-American offer?

  • 942. #ovrwhelmeddunningmom  |  April 15, 2016 at 9:58 am

    Got offered 2 slots for both my girls for kindergaten and 1st grade at Rowe Elementary ranked 9th in top 20 charter schools for Chicago. Debating whether to accept. My kindergartner got offered O.a. Thorp and we accepted prior to receiving notification from Row my first grader was wait listed everywhere including Thorp (165) Edgebrook #17. What to do. If I keep Thorp slot for kindergarten my other child will go to a different school that is if she can even get into Edgebrook 17 on the list I just don’t know.if she does not get in she will have to go to Locke. Not good. Suggestions.

  • 943. AnotherCPSParent  |  April 15, 2016 at 10:19 am

    @938. The school seems fine,but we realized that a daily drive from Old Irving Park to far side of Wrigleyville would drive us insane. Also, the duel language component is not as important to us. We have other options, thank goodness.

    @942.@ovrwhelmeddunningmom. I can’t comment on Rowe, but if you love Thorp, and you can handle two schools for one year, your older child will have sibling preference the next year.

  • 944. ChiMom  |  April 15, 2016 at 10:26 am

    @938 I see. So a drive from Belmont Cragin would be even worse.

  • 945. irvingparkmom  |  April 15, 2016 at 11:28 am

    @939 – we met the principal and were highly impressed. she runs a tight ship and the K teachers were both fantastic. they have a dual language program (spanish) and great after school options as well. definitely worth a visit if you haven’t been.

  • 946. NotMyFirstRodeo  |  April 15, 2016 at 11:46 am

    Contact Thorp directly to make certain they know of sibling that got in and sibling on waiting list. It is a good idea to make sure that they are aware of this at the school, not just downtown.

  • 947. Portage  |  April 15, 2016 at 12:49 pm

    If you have one child in a magnet school and are trying to get a sibling into the same school the following year, what is the likelihood of that happening if it is a non entry year for the sibling? Is that automatic, or is there a sibling lottery for the couple of spots that may become available? I would think there are also other families that are trying to get their siblings in as well.

  • 948. LSmom  |  April 15, 2016 at 12:54 pm

    @947, there’s a lottery among the siblings, although siblings get spots before anyone from the general lottery. I think it depends on the school — some have more attrition in upper grades than others.

  • 949. glazed & confused  |  April 15, 2016 at 1:00 pm

    Can anyone tell me how the wait list work… for example if your on a proximity wait list vs tier wait list… do you only move up if a person in that same category turn down the offer?

  • 950. 2FingersCrossed  |  April 15, 2016 at 3:57 pm

    Does anyone know firsthand how far down STEM has ever gone down the wait list in previous years? Got a child that is #50.

  • 951. GenBreen  |  April 15, 2016 at 4:19 pm

    Called Thorp O last week to let them know we are declining our offered spot. Hope this helps people waiting for movement on the list!

  • 952. GenBreen  |  April 15, 2016 at 4:20 pm

    Forgot to say the spot is for Kindergarten! Good luck all!

  • 953. John Chandler  |  April 15, 2016 at 11:58 pm

    We are Bell neighborhood and waitlisted at Blaine. If we get the offer for Blaine, how should we compare Bell (not options) vs Blaine? Does anyone have thoughts that can help us decide?

  • 954. Kathleen Boyle  |  April 16, 2016 at 12:49 am

    You are making some family very, very happy! Good luck wherever you’re going!

  • 955. Kathleen Boyle  |  April 16, 2016 at 12:55 am

    My daughter was Bell Options class of 2012. We have been gone for 4 years this June. She participated in many things at Bell (sports, theater), and the neighborhood and options kids mixed well in those settings. Academically, all of the kids there seemed pretty smart. The neighborhood program is strong.

  • 956. parent  |  April 16, 2016 at 11:03 am

    @953, What’s your number at Blaine? The waitlist there hardly moves, if at all.

  • 957. 1stDayAtTheRodeo  |  April 16, 2016 at 5:32 pm

    So my kid is pretty bright and pretty interested in school, but he definitely has an attentional issue and sometimes can be a bit anxious. At this point it looks like our choices are going to be Brentano, Hamilton, or Stone. Anyone with an idea of how high-octane kids fare at any of these schools? I’m very curious.

    I toured Hamilton and liked what I saw very much – it sucks that they don’t have much outdoor space at all, but the curriculum looks great and the principal had a lot of good things to say. He says they’re focusing on social/emotional intelligence next year, and they do a ton of positive reinforcement. When I asked about kids with ADD he said that the teachers will text each other when one kid is obviously getting squirmy, and ask him to be a special helper by going on a “mission” to deliver something or pick something up etc – so the kid gets some wiggles out and feels helpful at the same time, which is GENIUS. And when we were there, I saw kids who were active and engaged and not at all sitting in desks staring ahead, which made me feel good about it. We walked into a fourth grade classroom where they were studying aerodynamics and I was immediately hit in the head with a paper airplane, and I thought YES this is what I want to see. It sucks that they got rid of the theater program but it still seems like they are on top of things and I feel good about it. And 27 in each K class beats 32!

    As for the other two, I didn’t get to tour, but when I called Brentano to ask a minor question, the principal got right on the phone with me, and he seems like he is extremely responsive… that’s all I know right now though.

    Can anyone with older kids in a similar boat tell me how their kids have done at these schools? I am worried we aren’t going to get enough time to go see for ourselves before we have to make a choice. If we end up at Hamilton I’m cool with it but I’d love to know more about what we would be leaving on the table.

  • 958. john  |  April 16, 2016 at 9:58 pm

    @956 we are #10 at blaine

  • 959. PsyMom  |  April 17, 2016 at 12:03 am

    @AnotherMayerParent: such helpful information – thank you so much! I’m glad to hear that there’s no homework and no grading in K. And it sounds like the teachers and assistants are terrific. I’d love to check out the fundraiser but will be out of town that day. I’m hoping to attend the school tour on June 7th.

  • 960. parent  |  April 17, 2016 at 9:35 pm

    @958, I don’t think it’s likely that you’ll get an offer from Blaine. Bell and Blaine are both popular, good schools — I’m sure you’ll be happy at Bell.

  • 961. Kt215  |  April 17, 2016 at 10:31 pm

    Morgan park academy versus Kellogg
    Any thoughts?

  • 962. 3isacharm  |  April 18, 2016 at 8:23 am

    MPA seems lovely but tuition is $8000 to $20000. Even with tution indexs! Plus books and fundraising. If money no issue.And child has no learning curves.But Kellogg is a nice neighborhood school.by

  • 963. ChiMom  |  April 18, 2016 at 9:30 am

    Any luck for any of these schools? Entering 3rd grade. No tier.

    Lasalle II general 119
    Lasalle general 78
    Pritzker general 86
    Inter Amer general E 3

  • 964. Kt215  |  April 18, 2016 at 10:58 am

    I know you are right this whole pending school strike is getting on my nerves

  • 965. Livi's Mom  |  April 18, 2016 at 11:55 am

    First Grader Tier 2 – Magnet

    My daughter is waitlisted #2 at Beasley
    Early 30s for Ray and Harte

    The school I really want is Murray! Waitlisted #124!
    She is waitlisted #60 for Disney my second choice

    Thoughts on Beasley? On Murray??

  • 966. 3acharm  |  April 18, 2016 at 11:58 am

    I’ve looked at them all to! And spoke with parents that did MPA. They felt it wasn’t worth it.I keep thinking about it to. Maybe for higher grades. But some of the neighborhood Catholic schools for non parishioners are close in price. And how many children you have plays a role. MPA offers a 10 percent discount for sibblings.

  • 967. BSP in OIP  |  April 18, 2016 at 3:32 pm

    Anyone have any insight on O Thorp and waitlist movement?

    Incoming Kindergardner – waitlist Tier 3 #13.

    I’m thinking we have a shot just cause they have 3 full K Classes with about 28 kids each (i think).

    Anyone with past experience – please share if you can. This is my only hope – all eggs are in this basket.

    High 100’s for all the others we applied for.

  • 968. Tiffany Norwood  |  April 18, 2016 at 4:26 pm

    @Livi’s Mom
    Murray doesn’t go down their list very far. We were #54 proximity and never received a call. Since they are citywide, all seats are filled from the entire Chicagoland area.

    You’ll get a call from Ray. We were in the 100a last year and for a call mid summer. Bret Harte is is more iffy because they only have 1 kindergarten and save for neighborhood seats. (They always seem to top off at a high number over 30+ students every year at the start of enrollment but level out as the school year progresses.) My son went their for prek for 1-1/2 years and we loved it! Fantastic principal good program. (Unfortuntely no priority for prek enrollment and we were well in the 100s and never received a call but would’ve went in a heartbeat!)

    One of my friend’s children is in the RGC portion of Beasley and loves it. I’m not sure how far that they go down though.

    Disney surprisingly called down their waitlist last year but I’m not sure of how it will go this year.

    Good luck to you!

  • 969. MJG  |  April 18, 2016 at 4:53 pm

    @tiffany norwood and @livi mom. have you heard anything good or bad about Murray, im on the waitlist in 13, tier 4, dont know much about the school, is it a solid school, any information would be great thanks

  • 970. Tiffany Norwood  |  April 18, 2016 at 5:18 pm


    Murray is a fantastic fine arts school! The only drawback is there is less diversity as you get in the older grades. Good luck to you!

  • 971. MJG  |  April 18, 2016 at 5:20 pm

    @ Tiffany Norwood. Thanks for sharing!

  • 972. Livi's Mom  |  April 18, 2016 at 5:20 pm

    @Tiffany Norwood Thank you so much for the info. I would be fine with Beasley and I should feel more at ease being number 2, tier 2 but you never know right?
    That’s refreshing to know that Ray may still be an option for us. Drummond and Sheridan were other schools that she is waitlisted for and they are under #100. So, we shall see! Thanks again!

    @MJG I liked Murray for it’s curriculum that includes foreign language and art. It’s right up my daughter’s alley! It’s a smaller student body with larger classroom ratios to teacher, but felt like a great fit for her. Good luck to you!

  • 973. MJG  |  April 18, 2016 at 5:51 pm

    @Livi Mom

    Thanks, im going to check it out

  • 974. MurrayMom  |  April 18, 2016 at 7:12 pm

    I have one at Murray and another going in the fall. My son loves the school. My experiences with the faculty has been great. The teachers are very good. The principal gets to know all the children and he’s very responsive. The downsides: the class sizes are about 30 to 31 children. Language is not taught every day. Parent involvement could be stronger but has a dedicated PTO and LSC. This year, we’ve turned down a SEES school and a different Magnet to stay at Murray.

  • 975. MJG  |  April 18, 2016 at 9:27 pm

    @MurrayMom, what grade is your son? Can you comment on the climate of the school, especially in the higher grades? Do they have after school programs

    Thanks for response

  • 976. TraceyJ  |  April 18, 2016 at 9:45 pm

    Kt215 If you can swing the tuition at MPA, do it. CPS is CPS no matter how good you think the neighborhood school is. Under budget, under staffed and corrupt!

  • 977. Kt215  |  April 18, 2016 at 9:50 pm

    Thanks Tracey
    Your the first to mention this in that way
    And not make me feel guilty about my willingness to pay

  • 978. 3isacharm  |  April 18, 2016 at 10:06 pm

    Wow! I didn’t really ever think of it that way. But your right.

  • 979. Kt215  |  April 18, 2016 at 10:21 pm

    I’m going to seriously weigh my options
    Prior to MPA there are some good catholic schools and I haven’t even toured Kellogg yet. So I guess everyone is just frustrated with CPS. Its ridiculous that our kids just can’t go to the neighborhood school and call it a day.

  • 980. Kt215  |  April 18, 2016 at 10:22 pm

    I’m going to seriously weigh my options
    Prior to MPA there are some good catholic schools and I haven’t even toured Kellogg yet. So I guess everyone is just frustrated with CPS. Its ridiculous that our kids just can’t go to the neighborhood school

  • 981. MurrayMom  |  April 18, 2016 at 10:22 pm

    @MJG…he’s in 1st grade. The older kids look out for the younger ones. They seem respectful when I’m in contact with them. Faculty seems pretty quick in resolving discipline issues. Some kids will test out for Academic Centers and others will opt to stay through 8th Grade.

    Afterschool care is available through Right at School (at Murray), Nichols Park (attached to Murray), or Hyde Park Neighborhood Club (walking distance).

  • 982. 3isacharm  |  April 18, 2016 at 10:26 pm

    What is your neighborhood school? My son big request is to go to a quite academic school.And find some friends. It’s been difficult to find he’ll be in 3rd next year.

  • 983. 3isacharm  |  April 18, 2016 at 10:43 pm

    Tracey J you had great info on Owen. Would you know how is the current 2nd grade.Are they quite and how diverse is class. Whats better vanderpoel or owen or clissold?You seem to have good insight.

  • 984. so frustrated  |  April 18, 2016 at 11:11 pm

    There’s another acceptance letter error. This is a bigger issue than LaSalle. http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/18/us/us-university-buffalo-acceptance-letters/index.html

  • 985. TraceyJ  |  April 18, 2016 at 11:38 pm


    I will give quick response before heading to bed and I will check in tomorrow. Here is what I know first hand in my own circle. My daughter has three friends, and two were in Vanderpool last school year. Both were pulled out of VP for this current school year. One now goes to Owen. I gave the review last week, and this child is in 2nd or 3rd grade (can’t remember). Not too diverse but parents rave about school and it has a good reputation in the community. They may have some space issues for 2nd grade. I believe there are two 1st grade classes and one current 2nd grade class. The other friend was going to VP and now goes to Barnard which is my neighborhood school. Both had similar complaints about VP. The 3rd friend was in my daughters K class at Barnard last school year, but received a call from Clissold and transferred her daughter there for this school year. The mom was raving last week about how well her daughter is doing at Clissold, always activities going on, parent involvement and she sees a positive change in her daughters academic progress. This parent loves Clissold because it meets her daughters needs and she did not regret her decision to change schools. I personally do not like my current neighborhood school. My daughter is not getting what she needs and has picked up several bad habits. Communication and improvements that my daughter needs are one sided from the teachers perspective. We are very involved parents and I know child is not getting what she needs. We have supplemental resources in place to bridge the gap where she has fallen behind at her current school. I feel communication on learning gaps were slow and did not happen in a timely manner. I asked for additional resources at school to help bridge the gap and didn’t get any support. But the school raves about it now being level 1. Dog and pony show in my opinion. I feel that the teacher somewhat talks down to me and my spouse in a pleasant and politically correct way though. Resources are sorely lacking. many things I don’t care for that I won’t get into on this board. I hope to be moving on next school year. The school is in transition and I fault myself thinking the experience would be good. I am not a fan of CPS or the school.

    My daughter was accepted into MPA before the beginning of the school year, but was wait listed. No seat opened up so we went back to our neighborhood school. I was sick and sad at the same time.

  • 986. 3isacharm  |  April 19, 2016 at 8:22 am

    Tracey J I feel your pain. I didn’t think MPA was that difficult to get into. I knew they tested but didn’t realize space was so limited. I did hear they had scholarships for 8th graders.Thank you for the feed back. There is nothing like taking that leap of faith..I perfer to see what parents say.I looked at Barnard and that really had.great things.going on.Just not with 2nd grade or Pre K.My son has done great acdemicly at Vanderpoel. But he lacks close friends.I’m not sure it makes a difference where hes at. And its to noisy for him.And the principle selection process is still up in the air.I think of maybe just staying put there is always next year.

  • 987. 3isacharm  |  April 19, 2016 at 8:44 am

    Tracey J forgive me but is your neighborhood school Bernard? Ar

  • 988. Always More Questions  |  April 19, 2016 at 8:56 am

    GenBreen, was the O. Thorp K spot that you declined for proximity or tier? Thanks!

  • 989. GenBreen  |  April 19, 2016 at 9:59 am

    Always More…..the spot was for proximity. I’m not sure if that matters for second round offers or not.

  • 990. NewtoCPS  |  April 19, 2016 at 10:48 am

    Does anyone have insight on whether Frazier International is a good school?

  • 991. AnxiousMom  |  April 19, 2016 at 10:51 am

    Tier 3 waitlist:
    STEM #10
    Galileo #12
    Sheridan (proximity) #87
    A Jackson #127

    Any chance of my son getting into STEM?

  • 992. Always More Questions  |  April 19, 2016 at 11:15 am

    Thanks, GenBreen. That’s really helpful information for those of us trying to gauge our chances of receiving a call.

  • 993. TraceyJ  |  April 19, 2016 at 12:30 pm


    If VP is working for your son, don’t move him if you feel he is getting what he needs. BUT looks like you are interested in other options which is good too. Nothing wrong with options! Yes Barnard is my neighborhood school. I here you on the friendships. My daughter has more friends due to extra curricular activities outside of school.

  • 994. soon to be CPS Mom  |  April 19, 2016 at 12:32 pm

    Hi, anybody have any insight on Mitchell elementary CPS? its a neighborhood school. Thanks!

  • 995. Elizabeth  |  April 19, 2016 at 4:12 pm

    Any Disney II parents of 7th/8th graders who can offer some insight and advice?

  • 996. 3isacharm  |  April 19, 2016 at 4:25 pm

    Tracey J Bernard is ours to and it has improved dramatically in 3 years.Just not in the area’s I need it. I dream of my kids walking to school. Do you like the kindergarten teacher? We have a year till the middle guy gets there. He’s at Barbara Vick and we love it. But he needs more acdemics.So will do 2 schools.We did the summer program and my boy’s loved it. We try extra activity for friends and it’s working. But no close friends yet.Im trying to think long term at the full package till high school.My oldest is difficult ! I hope he paves the way for the rest. Let me know what you find out.about Owen.Love to meet up with ya.

  • 997. 2mom2  |  April 20, 2016 at 9:19 am

    Barnard is our neighborhood school. We transferred our children there mid year. Could not be happier. Not sure what other parent challenges are. Our teachers are really supportive, responsive, willing to help. Not a dog a pony show in my opinion – not at all. Definitely the real deal. Very strong school for social emotional learning. Good instruction. My kids are challenges but always can get help. Went here on recommendation of a friend. We love all of our teachers. Can’t say enough. I guess everyone has their opinion. My kids have always gone to private school and this is our first experience in public school. After school programs are awesome – before and after school tutoring is a huge help for my 4th grader who struggles in math. LOVE the school!

  • 998. OA Thorp  |  April 20, 2016 at 9:55 am

    @967. BSP in OIP

    I think you are borderline with T3 #13 for OA Thorp. It could go either way. I believe the list sometimes reaches that high and sometimes doesn’t. Hopefully, the people in front of you live far and don’t want to commute or got in somewhere else they really wanted to go. This is such a stressful process. Sending good vibes and good Luck.

  • 999. jsm  |  April 20, 2016 at 10:01 am

    Wildwood #22 waitlist for K. Any chance?

  • 1000. 3isacharm  |  April 20, 2016 at 10:33 am

    2mom2 Where did you transfer from? I toured and the 3rd grade teacher seems great. And 4th/5th seemed awsome to. They have made tremendous progress in 3 years. I was surprised that they have so many students.And Mrs. Burn seems awsome.

  • 1001. 3isacharm  |  April 20, 2016 at 10:52 am

    2mom2 Can you tell me anything about 2nd grade class at Bernard? I didn’t see them on tour.Are they quite class ? There teacher is on leave.

  • 1002. Hoping  |  April 20, 2016 at 10:59 am

    General #1 Wait list Galileo….any chance?

  • 1003. Do we accept Hamilton?  |  April 20, 2016 at 11:32 am

    Got an offer from Hamilton for K off the wait list this week, and we’re going on the tour 4/25. I’d love to hear more about what the parent community is like. Do families outside of the attendance boundaries and neighborhood feel welcome? The 2 mile commute from Logan Square seems doable, and we’ve heard great things about the school.

  • 1004. Momto3  |  April 20, 2016 at 11:52 am

    @1003 – Where were you on the wait list for Hamilton?

  • 1005. Banana  |  April 20, 2016 at 1:27 pm

    1003 – We’ll be commuting from Logan Square to Hamilton too! I think the early start time will work in our favor since traffic won’t be as bad. I’m excited to get started.

  • 1006. Rookie  |  April 20, 2016 at 1:59 pm

    Is Hawthorne a good School?

  • 1007. Do we accept Hamilton?  |  April 20, 2016 at 2:04 pm

    @Momto3 we were #10 on the K waitlist. @Banana, I agree about the early start time! Have you toured yet? Any insights to share? We’re going to have to make a quick decision after the tour so I’m trying to gather any information I can beforehand.

  • 1008. Hoping  |  April 20, 2016 at 2:12 pm

    I accepted an offer at Columbus, they stamped my sheet approved…..now what? Will they send me registration paperwork? Do i have to go back to the school to sign him up?

  • 1009. Momof3  |  April 20, 2016 at 2:21 pm

    Just accepted a spot at Franklin Fine Arts. We were wait listed #3 tier 3

  • 1010. Drida  |  April 20, 2016 at 2:54 pm

    Yes, Hawthorne is an excellent school! Amazing kids, teachers, parent, principal and staff. If you got an offer there, do take it seriously!

  • 1011. lisajo  |  April 20, 2016 at 3:53 pm

    My daughter is attending Hamilton next year too and we also live in Logan Square. The tour was fantastic. Lots of parents there to answer questions. We were very impressed. The principal was also fantastic.

  • 1012. Changers  |  April 20, 2016 at 4:38 pm

    Any one turned down K spot in LaSalle and in tier 3? My daughter is on wait list #3. Anyone have an idea about the chance to get in? Thanks a lot!

  • 1013. Mom  |  April 20, 2016 at 5:06 pm

    Does anyone have their kids in the neighborhood program at Pritzker? How do you like it? I’ve heard that the arts programming is phenomenal.

  • 1014. 2mom2  |  April 20, 2016 at 5:54 pm

    3isacharm – don’t know about 2nd grade. Love 4 and 7. Very different experience from other poster. Extremely responsive teachers and great administration. Lots of after and before school help/programs. Not sure what the lack of resources is in reference to. Much more than what we are used to. Teacher met with us on our daughter’s math issues and offered lots of help. Have heard bad/good things about all schools – VP, Clissold, Sutherland. I’m sure there are two sides to every story. Barnard has really improved over the past few years. It’s not perfect but it’s definitely one of the better schools in the city.

  • 1015. 3isacharm  |  April 20, 2016 at 7:50 pm

    2mom2 Where else have they gone? I’m relieved to here 7th is good.And there are lot’s of programs. Would you know what time buses leave and come back by any chance?How ofen do they have art or music and a language? IF they offer them.And is it gaining diversity? Thanks for your insight.I was impressed with my tour.And I told people that just moved in to check it out.There interested in 4th.

  • 1016. Emily  |  April 20, 2016 at 8:27 pm

    @kt215, I would encourage you to tour your neighborhood school. I agree with the comment that CPS comes with frustrations you can pay to avoid. But you also can go to your neighborhood school and get a quality education. The nutty selection process in Chicago has people constantly second-guessing their neighborhood schools, even good ones.

  • 1017. glazed & confused  |  April 20, 2016 at 10:27 pm

    Can anyone tell me how the wait list works exactly? meaning is it only the # that matter or the tier as well. Say your on a wait list proximity, does someone with a proximity entry have to turn down the offer for you to move up or can any one turn it down…

  • 1018. glazed & confused  |  April 20, 2016 at 10:29 pm

    Any one have any insight on Lasalle language? The community, the kids, the teachers etc…

  • 1020. harry potter  |  April 21, 2016 at 6:22 am

    I believe Troy is going to be the next leader of the Chicago Principal’s Association. As far as I am aware, he was going to try and do that and be principal, but better this way. He can now concentrate all his efforts in organizing principals. Better for him and better for them. They are going to need all the help they can get.

  • 1021. ChiMom  |  April 21, 2016 at 9:16 am

    Are waitlisted kids sent letters or phone calls for offers?

  • 1022. HydeParkMom  |  April 21, 2016 at 10:55 am

    @ChiMom Mostly phone calls but few schools do send emails as well.

  • 1023. BSP in OIP  |  April 21, 2016 at 11:54 am

    @ 998. OA Thorp

    Thank you for your insight – are you a parent or teacher/administrator at the school?

    Either way – thanks again – we went to the open house for new students on the 13th and are really hopeful that this becomes an option for us.

    Great school – great people – not sure why it’s not more popular. Seems like people are so into Disney II when Thorp seems to be just as good (if not better – in my opinion). not to mention its not that far away from D2 either.

  • 1024. llmm  |  April 21, 2016 at 12:59 pm

    FYI Goethe is calling down the Kindergarten wait list. We are 20 and just got a call. They are giving until Monday to respond, but we will decline ASAP so hopefully someone else can get the call.

  • 1025. Rebecca Wells  |  April 21, 2016 at 2:56 pm

    You guys…I’m getting nervous about what to do if/when schools call off the waitlist…

    We are holding out hope for our #1 choice (Thorp O, #10 proximity), but I don’t expect to hear from them for a while. In the meantime, if another school that we would be happy with (but isn’t the one we absolutely want) calls and offers us a spot, do we accept? Just in case Thorp doesn’t call? If we do accept another spot, it is 110% guaranteed that we won’t be removed from the waitlists at other schools?

    I’m so nervous about this. Oi vay!

  • 1026. Cpsmess  |  April 21, 2016 at 7:41 pm

    You wont be removed from the waitlist at the other school because the schools dont “talk” to each other that way and each school individually manages their own waitlist in house. CPS does not manage that centrally (the wait list part). If you actually enroll in the school that you get accepted to first (which is what you should do IMO) the only thing is that you will have to go up to that first school and request a transfer into Thorp. Now sometimes schools can delay the transfer or be annoyed that you just got there without the school year starting and have already transferred but technically they cant deny your request to transfer if Thorp accepts you – actually Thorp can send them the request to release your child from 1st school but it moves faster when the parents goes in person and hastens the process. This is the case even if the school year has started already at the other school and you get a call from Thorp – so yes with Magnets – you’re good.

  • 1027. Cpsmess  |  April 21, 2016 at 7:47 pm

    @1017 – I called OAE a while back to ask this question and * technically* (so they said) schools are to move down waitlist according to the tier that didnt accept the offer in the first round. So for example if John Doe in Tier 4 didnt accept at ABC magnet and Donald Duck didnt accept in Tier 2 they go down the list in Tier 4 based on # and so on…BUT who’s making sure they do? Thats my issues with schools managing their waitlist but I digress…

  • 1028. realchicagomama  |  April 21, 2016 at 10:02 pm

    @995 – I have a 7th grader at Disney II. What do you want to know? Email me at cpollicki at gmail dot com

  • 1029. Hoping  |  April 21, 2016 at 11:32 pm

    How much does the Mayer list move for 3rd grade? General #17

  • 1030. cpsobsessed  |  April 22, 2016 at 8:35 am

    Do you think he’s still eligible of he’s not actually a principal?

  • 1031. OA Thorp  |  April 22, 2016 at 9:35 am

    @1023. BSP in OIP

    I’m a parent and also in OIP. Thorp is a great school and has a lot of wonderful families. I’m guessing about the waitlist purely based on casual conversation with other parents, so I could be wrong. From what I’ve heard, my guess would be that if they get to 13 they will be calling at the end of summer or into the school year. I would suggest calling (if you haven’t already) to make sure they have your phone number correct and that you are very interested (not so they skip people, as others sometimes suggest regarding waitlists, but to make sure they get ahold of you if/when they get to your number).

    I think people in OIP are into DII because it’s close. As a whole, it got a ton of buzz when it started and it’s more accessible to more people (near the highway). Thorp is further off the beat and path to the rest of the city. People across the city apply because they can and turn it down if they find something closer to home or realize they can’t do the commute. Thorp’s waitlist also moves more because there are 87 kids in K and I believe DII only has 50. There are a lot more seats available after siblings than at DII. Both are great schools. I feel very fortunate to have kids at Thorp. I was completely obsessed and freaking out about the waitlist when it was our year to go through this. It’s so stressful and nerve wracking. I really feel for everyone. There are a ton of great magnets and neighborhood schools out there. If you are in the Belding boundaries you are very luck to have that as an option (we were not).

  • 1032. coristankowicz  |  April 22, 2016 at 1:01 pm

    A school just left a message for an offer and and now no one there is answering the phone…I’ve tried every extension…and then I emailed the principal. Is my kid going to get passed up??? Sincerely yours, Thoroughly Panicked Mom

  • 1033. mom of 2  |  April 22, 2016 at 1:51 pm

    It sucks about Kellogg, because low-income/out-of-neighborhood kids have made it impossible for local Beverly kids to use the school. Vanderpoel is almost all out-of-neighborhood kids too.

    It would be so nice if kids either went to their neighborhood school, a magnet school, or private. No more of this ridiculous “My kid is waitlisted #35 at this school, #52 at that school, and #17 at the other school”. If you care about YOUR kid and YOUR neighborhood, work at helping better YOUR neighborhood school rather than exporting your kids from school to school. If you want to send your kid to Kellogg, MOVE TO KELLOGG. If you want to send your kid to Sutherland, MOVE TO SUTHERLAND. If you want to have your kid go to Bell, MOVE TO BELL.

  • 1034. JMOChicago  |  April 22, 2016 at 2:12 pm

    It does not “suck” about Kellogg. Kellogg is a Magnet Cluster school and gets extra funds for being one. These extra funds require them to accept out-of-neighborhood kids. In fact, neighborhood kids get the best of both worlds at a Magnet Cluster…they can walk in and enroll anytime PLUS extra funds/resources. There is absolutely nothing from stopping any Beverly child living in the attendance area of the school from attending it.

  • 1035. mom of 2  |  April 22, 2016 at 2:55 pm

    It DOES suck because North Beverly parents are essentially forced to either send their kids to school with low-income kids from out of the area, or go private. The achievement gap is very real, and having your kid assigned to a class where the students are learning at a slower pace is damaging.

    Bell is NOT a magnet cluster, btw. Why should Kellogg?

  • 1036. Selena  |  April 22, 2016 at 3:14 pm

    Okay so I definitely get the frustration but being totally honest lower income parents can’t afford a private option at all, so does that mean that their children shouldn’t get a quality education. If all neighborhood schools were good options there would not be a need for this system but it is not the case.

    I want a certain school for daughter that she is waitlisted for but also being honest her home school and all schools in my immediate area are level one schools, everyone can not say that , so does that again mean everyone regardless of income shouldn’t have a chance ofa quality education.

  • 1037. Frustrated  |  April 22, 2016 at 3:30 pm

    1033. mom of 2 – You should read, “How to Walk to School: Blueprint for a Neighborhood School Renaissance”.

    If you want to send your kids to your neighborhood school, you start by sending your kids to your neighborhood school.

  • 1038. Kt215  |  April 22, 2016 at 3:40 pm

    Low income is not tantamount to slow pace learning and underachievement.


  • 1039. Nice try  |  April 22, 2016 at 3:54 pm

    @1038 Then why do we have Tiers?

  • 1040. KCabral  |  April 22, 2016 at 4:16 pm

    @1039/Nice try

    Are you saying that Tiers are used to bring in kids who learn at a “slow pace” and are “underachievers”?

    Tiers are used as an *attempt* to provide equal access to kids of all socio-economic levels. I sincerely don’t understand your response to 1038/Kt215.

    And to momof2, you seem to suggest people should simply move if there is a particular neighborhood school they want their kid to attend. That is true but very easy for a family with the economic ability to do so. The low income families that you are criticizing don’t have the option you are asking them to use.

  • 1041. Nice try  |  April 22, 2016 at 4:37 pm

    @1040 I think you DO understand my response to 1038, but I’ll play anyway.

    CPS identified that kids in poor neighborhoods may not have had the educational advantages that kids in a middle-class or wealthy areas had, so they created tiers to “level the playing field”, to give them a boost to compete for spots in SE schools. This is what CPS has stated when asked about the fairness of tiers.

    But let’s turn that inside out: Using CPS’ logic, if Tier 4 and Tier 3 families provide their kids with more educational opportunities, it’s fair to say that these kids will have greater academic enrichment and progress than a Tier 1 or Tier 2 kid. So, when the Tier 1 kid is put in to a classroom with kids who are more advanced, the class needs to slow down in order to boost the Tier 1 kid up to speed. How does that help the Tier 4 and Tier 3 kids?

    And for your comment for mom of 2 — Her comment was SPOT ON. I don’t live in New Trier, so I can’t send my kid there. C’est la vie.

  • 1042. Frustrated  |  April 22, 2016 at 5:03 pm

    Oh boy. I would like to raise my hand here. I was one of those low income kids. I spent my K-8 years in a crappy, underfunded neighborhood school where most of my classmates had little support at home. (Back then, the socioeconomic tiers didn’t exist – schools were integrated by race – but I’m 100% sure that I’d be Tier 1.)

    Despite my impoverished childhood, I still graduated in the top 10% of Lane and went on to college. I don’t remember ever holding any of my classmates back. I also knew lots and lots of other kids who came from a variety of economic, religious, racial & ethnic backgrounds. If you’re curious how different background help kids, go ask a senior at Lane Tech and see what they have to say. Lane kids love diversity.

    Also, New Trier is in an entirely different school district. Of course you can’t send your kids there. District 299 is the ENTIRE city of Chicago. It’s a much, much different system.

  • 1043. Nice try  |  April 22, 2016 at 5:16 pm

    @Frustrated Your experience is different because you are referring to being in a SE HS that requires you to prove you can handle the academics. If you can’t, you don’t get in.

    How would your classmates at your “crappy underfunded neighborhood” school fare at Lane? How is it fair for kids who are reading at or above grade level to be in the same class with kids who can barely read and have no support at home to help them?

    Re: New Trier: I can’t send my kid to Bell either.

  • 1044. Selena  |  April 22, 2016 at 5:53 pm

    I think this way of thinking is discriminatory at best.

    If you see your child needs extra help you can afford a tutor, a lot of people don’t have that luxury and even though the system is not the best it tries to give all children a chance.

  • 1045. ,3isacharm  |  April 22, 2016 at 6:11 pm

    Kellogge pulls of a general waitlist no teirs. I believe all neighborhood schools do.Most of Beverly goes to private schools because that Is how it is here.And 10 percent pf Vanderpoel is local.

  • 1046. JMOChicago  |  April 22, 2016 at 6:13 pm

    Mom of 2– Kellogg is less than 50% low income. There are LOTS of excellent neighborhood schools that are close to 70-80% low income of the student body…my kids’ school being one of them where more than half the 8th grade class gets admitted to SEHS, IB and other selective programs each year.

    So…what is your real issue with Kellogg? Because low income does not equal low achieving. It equals “less resourced at home.” But I can tell you about a number of middle to high income kids that I would not want in classrooms with my kids for a variety of reasons…and many that I would.

  • 1047. Frustrated  |  April 22, 2016 at 6:14 pm

    I don’t really know how to address your question about “fairness”.

    But if you’re concerned about how a school differentiates diverse learners, that’s a good question for the school. We chose a school where a majority of the kids are low income – but seeing as my daughter’s RGC score likely isn’t going to get her a spot, I asked a lot of questions about differentiation in the classrooms and I’m comfortable that for the primary years, she’s going to be fine. (Our zoned neighborhood school is over utilized with neighborhood schools, so the school choice was great for us.) If this is a concern of yours, ask the school.

  • 1048. JMOChicago  |  April 22, 2016 at 6:20 pm

    Also, while I think Bell is great, Bell’s achievement and growth scores are skewed by the fact that they house an RGC within the school. So does Beaubien. So does Coonley. But the classroom experiences of the RGC programs within those schools are not the same as those within the non-RGC programs. However, the RGC scores skews the data in aggregate.

    Would you accept a spot at Stone?

  • 1049. some correction  |  April 22, 2016 at 6:21 pm

    A poster mentioned above that Vanderpoel is filled with out of area kids…well…ummm…that’s because it is a magnet school!

    Here is the definition of a magnet school from OAE:
    A magnet school is a specialized school that focuses its curriculum on one particular subject area, such as math/science, humanities, Montessori, or world language. The system currently has a total of 38 elementary magnet schools.
    Most elementary magnet schools do not have attendance boundaries, which means that all interested students must submit an application, even if they live close to the school. In addition, in most cases, magnet schools provide school bus transportation to students who live more than 1.5 miles but less than 6 miles from the school. Contrary to widely held beliefs, magnet elementary schools do not provide an accelerated curriculum – they are designed for all students, and students are randomly selected through a computerized lottery.

    Here is the definition of a magnet cluster school and these schools DON’T get extra money:
    A magnet cluster school is a specialized neighborhood school – it has a neighborhood attendance boundary and accepts students who live within that boundary. Magnet cluster schools also focus their curriculum on one of four subject areas: fine and performing arts, world language, International Baccalaureate Primary or Middle Years, or technology. Students who live outside of the neighborhood attendance boundary must submit an application in order to be considered for acceptance. A student may apply to any magnet cluster school. Transportation is not provided to incoming students.
    There are more than 100 magnet cluster schools focusing on one of four academic areas of focus: fine and performing arts, the International Baccalaureate Middle Years Programme, technology or world language.

    Magnet schools don’t get extra money either but have one or two positions related to their specialized curriculum funded through CPS.

    Magnet cluster schools are basically neighborhood schools that take out of area students who apply IF they have space.

  • 1050. JMOChicago  |  April 22, 2016 at 6:41 pm

    Actually, Magnet Clusters DO get extra resources…just not as many as a Magnet school. Sometimes those resources are related to a specific Cluster Specialization…like an “Arts Magnet Cluster” or a “Tech Magnet Cluster”.

    A Magnet Cluster school gets extra teaching positions in their specialty topic, and often has a platform to better partner with outside resources around their cluster topic. Whether this has continued (or will continue) with the BOE trying to slash budgets remains to be seen.

  • 1051. Patricia  |  April 22, 2016 at 9:01 pm

    @1050 are you sure about the extra funding? I believe that went away with the student based budgeting (SBB) and now schools get funding primarily based on enrollment and low income continue to get additional funding. The budget model you are describing does not exist anymore—it certainly used to prior to SBB. The extra positions for magnet, cluster and RGC have all been eliminated. Principals can allocate funds to provide certain positions, based on student based budgeting, but the days of bonus posistions, etc. are over. Right?

  • 1052. Melissa  |  April 22, 2016 at 9:09 pm

    Looking for feedback on Jahn. We have a kindergartener (offered) and 2 preschoolers (will apply if they ever make pre-k applications available!) Thanks!

  • 1053. @patricia  |  April 22, 2016 at 9:47 pm

    I’m the #1049 poster and I just did some research and yes all of that is gone with SBB. Principals have to make due with their SBB, Title 1 & SGSA funds and whatever they can fundraise in their discretionary funds. This is the reason why magnet cluster schools are clamoring to take more out of area students so they can get more money. I think all principals will start being more lenient in taking in more students as long as it doesn’t violate the union contract so the school will have more money.

  • 1054. James Gray  |  April 22, 2016 at 10:24 pm

    I am a CPS principal of a magnet cluster school and we DO get additional positions. 1.0 for my school. Many magnet schools gets many as 4.0 additional positions than neighborhood schools.

  • 1055. 3isacharm  |  April 23, 2016 at 7:08 am

    Momof 2 I feel your pain and frustration. But it’s your neighbors that choose CK over Kellogge. And my neighbors that choose Barnabas over Barnard. And it’s been that way for years.The school has to fill seats for funding.They also had to extend boundaries do to low enrollment.We’ve been trying do selective enrollment for 2 years.And we take what we are offered.If we think it will resolve so of our issues.My child is 8 he has been to 4 schools including Kellogge last year for.1st.

  • 1056. ,3isacharm  |  April 23, 2016 at 7:26 am

    James Gray can you explain how title 1 funds are disrupted? From what I can tell magnet schools receive them & maybe low income. Is there any other ways to get into these schools other then wait list?

  • 1057. Patricia  |  April 23, 2016 at 7:51 am

    @1054 Can you share how additional positions work with SBB? You have a set dollar amount with SBB and can allocate how you choose, within parameters. Who pays for the added positions you mention? If it is out of the SBB bucket, then aren’t you kind of restrained by being required to have a certain position for a magent designation?

  • 1058. James Gray  |  April 23, 2016 at 8:06 am

    Title 1 funds are a reflection of a school’s poverty percentage. Schools like mine do not qualify for Title 1 because our poverty rate does not meet the minimum threshold. Federal (Title 1) dollars are not usually significant – they make up a small percentage of the total budget.

    My school gets 1.0 arts positions, LaSalle gets X.X language positions, Franklin gets X.X arts positions, Hawthorne gets X.X ‘academic’ positions paid for by CPS and not the school.

    Principals then craft a budget with the remaining dollars from SBB. They are totally separate.

  • 1059. Correction on misinformation  |  April 23, 2016 at 12:34 pm

    Correction for 3isacharm:

    Barnard did not extend their boundaries. This is a rumor that has been in the neighborhood for awhile and is simply not true. They have had the same boundaries for a long time. Boundaries end at Vincennes/Beverly on the east, Wood on the west , 100th (mostly) on the north and 107th on the south. The majority of East Beverly. They have Options seats, as do Sutherland, Esmond, Kellogg, Clissold, etc., because of their IB program. As with all of these schools, they can, if need be, pull from a larger area. Most schools, Barnard included, have had limited open seats since area families are fairly invested in their neighborhood schools. Barnard especially has been lacking Options seats for the past two years because of its growth in local enrollment.


  • 1060. teachermom  |  April 24, 2016 at 10:24 am

    @Not Entry Level

    Sorry about the delayed response. I’ve been off the blog for spring break. I don’t really know anything about Von Linne. Sorry. Regarding differentiation at Brentano, it happens within the classroom or with after-school enrichment activities. The principal is committed to a school without tracking. Since our experience is in preK which covers two age groups, all the classroom academic instruction was differentiated. I’m not sure what it will look like in other grades.


    I will say this. The outdoor space at Brentano is great. The kids have daily recess (weather-depending), and there is a PE teacher although I’m not sure how many days a week they have PE. They also have a drama teacher as well as art, so 2 of 3 enrichment classes involve moving around. I just learned that one of the K teachers also runs the after-school yoga class. Hopen that helps.

  • 1061. parent  |  April 24, 2016 at 8:47 pm

    We have been at Jahn for preschool and have been really happy. We were offered a spot for Kindergarten and will very likely take it. We have found all teachers, staff and the principal very open to answering questions and able to do so thoroughly and knowledgeably. I would highly recommend scheduling a tour. I’ll bet they can also give you some names of families in later grades who would be happy to talk to you about their experiences. Jahn is definitely on the rise and I expect that in a handful of years it will be as desirable as the many top notch schools surrounding it.

  • 1062. CuriousMom  |  April 24, 2016 at 10:06 pm

    Can anyone give any insight to the CICS-Irving Park Campus? Or know of any blogs/forums that have information on the CICS schools? We applied to the charter school as a back-up and have been offered a spot. I have heard/read mixed reviews but would still like to do a bit more research.

    My daughter has been waitlisted to every CPS school we applied to.
    Tier 3, K
    O Thorp #26
    Stone #50

    Disney II #160

    Our other waitlist numbers are too high to even bother with. Our first choice was O Thorp but we’re not holding out hope.
    Thanks in advance!

  • 1063. HydeParkMom  |  April 24, 2016 at 11:13 pm


    The school is fantastic! My son went there for their summer academy program for kindergarten and they treated him with kindness and respect. The teachers throughly cared about him and took the time to meet with me. A “small school feel” with small classroom sizes. Technology heavy focus there. The only reason why I didn’t keep him was because it was too far. Take a tour.

  • 1064. CuriousMom  |  April 25, 2016 at 12:20 am


    Thank you! That’s great to hear. Yes, we will be taking a tour this week. Excited to see what the school has to offer.

  • 1065. ChiMom  |  April 25, 2016 at 4:40 am

    Do calls come in from 773-553-xxxx numbers?

  • 1066. apmommy  |  April 25, 2016 at 9:36 am

    For anyone out there. I just turned down a spot for Disney I
    Tier 4 WL #12

  • 1067. LSmom  |  April 25, 2016 at 9:46 am

    @1065, mine didn’t, so I’d answer all 773/312 calls to be safe.

  • 1068. ChiMom  |  April 25, 2016 at 9:51 am

    @1067 Thanks!

  • 1069. cojochicago  |  April 25, 2016 at 9:54 am

    Just accepted an offer from Galileo Kindergarten we were #5 Tier 3. WOOT!

  • 1070. Changers  |  April 25, 2016 at 9:56 am

    Anyone heard from Lasalle yet? Have they started to count down on the wait list? My daughter is #3 on the K wait list. Other schools have started the process but I have not seen anyone comment on Lasalle yet. Anyone have any information? Thank you so much!

  • 1071. Suz  |  April 25, 2016 at 9:59 am

    Changers, which Lasalle? If you mean #1-you may not get a call at all as most accept that school.

  • 1072. ChiMom  |  April 25, 2016 at 10:02 am

    Any call outs from Lasalle II, Inter American, or Pritzker?

  • 1073. LSmom  |  April 25, 2016 at 10:05 am

    @1072, Lasalle II posts their wait list numbers here: http://lasalle2school.com/2016/03/sy16-17-wait-list-update/

    I wish all schools did that!

  • 1074. ChiMom  |  April 25, 2016 at 10:13 am

    @1073 Well that’s Awesome. Thanks!

  • 1075. Changers  |  April 25, 2016 at 10:19 am

    Oh no!! I was talking about Lasalle 1. We were hoping that she can get in because based on the wait list # there no chance that she gets into any other school. Lasalle is our last hope….:-(

  • 1076. ChiMom  |  April 25, 2016 at 10:27 am

    If a school calls and no one answers do they have to leave a message?

  • 1077. Suz  |  April 25, 2016 at 10:46 am

    Changers, well, hope for the best, plan for the worst. You have to have three families that don’t accept a seat at one of the most unique schools in the system for you to get a spot. But hopefully, people will move away!

  • 1078. LSmom  |  April 25, 2016 at 11:30 am

    @ChiMom, I’ve always received a message, although there was someone a few years ago who reported that Hawthorne called her late in the summer and didn’t leave a message.

  • 1079. Ann  |  April 25, 2016 at 11:53 am

    Does anyone have any information about Franklin Fine Arts? My son got in and I’m not sure if I should accept. My other child attends Ogden. Any info would help!

  • 1080. smpt  |  April 25, 2016 at 11:55 am

    @Ann – what grade?

  • 1081. Ann  |  April 25, 2016 at 11:57 am

    @smpt Kindergarten

  • 1082. Busymom  |  April 25, 2016 at 12:21 pm

    If you scroll up, there were many parents hating on Ogden. The principal is weird, doesn’t use math books, the Friends of Group is invitation only to join so it’s not friendly. It should be called Clique of Ogden. The current LSC was voted in because the neighborhood pastor told his whole congregation who to vote for. Plus the whole Jenner merger is going to be back with a vengeance. Go to Franklin.

  • 1083. One and Only  |  April 25, 2016 at 12:46 pm

    @ChiMom and others – When I was waiting for wait list calls, I programmed the numbers for all the schools I was hoping to hear from into my phone so I knew exactly who was calling.

  • 1084. 2nd chance lottery questions  |  April 25, 2016 at 12:46 pm

    By chance does anyone have a list of schools (grades) that were included in last year’s 2nd chance lottery? I understand the next one starts in May. Also, if we apply to the 2nd chance lottery do we still hold our wait list numbers from the first lottery or is our first lottery application wiped? Thanks!

  • 1085. NicVit  |  April 25, 2016 at 1:20 pm

    Has anyone turned down a kindergarten spot at Disney II?? Or has anyone from the Tier 4 waitlist gotten a call?? Thanks!

  • 1086. About schools not leaving messages  |  April 25, 2016 at 1:30 pm

    @ChiMom. Several years ago in summer Waters called me but didn’t leave a message.

  • 1087. LSmom  |  April 25, 2016 at 1:35 pm

    @1084, some of the schools on the list last year were Columbus, Prescott, Goethe, and Chappell. You don’t lose your numbers from the first lottery if you apply to the second.

  • 1088. changers  |  April 25, 2016 at 1:39 pm

    Could anyone know hoe the 2nd chance lottery works? Where to apply for example? Thanks!

  • 1089. kate  |  April 25, 2016 at 1:40 pm

    Hello. My husband got a call for a school .We are on waiting list #5, tier4. They asked if we accept or decline the offer. He tell them we accept the offer.
    So, what is the next? Waiting for the forms or letter for the school?

  • 1090. Peirce wait list movement?  |  April 25, 2016 at 1:45 pm

    Anyone know if Peirce made it through their entire K wait list in the past couple years? I know they used to (I’m talking five years ago now) but curious if that is still the case.

  • 1091. LSmom  |  April 25, 2016 at 1:46 pm

    @changers, here’s what CPS says about the second round:

    The End-of-Year Citywide Options Program is a second application process for magnet, magnet cluster, and open enrollment schools that still have seats available. The application process will take place May 9-20. This is a paper application process; participating schools will be listed on the application, which will be posted on this website under NEWS, starting May 9th at 9 am.

  • 1092. CB  |  April 25, 2016 at 2:03 pm

    We’ve accepted a spot at Franklin for kindergarten. We were 7 on tier 4.

    Our other low numbers were:
    Disney II 34
    Salazar offered
    Talcott 31
    Brentano offered
    Logandale 10 (general)

  • 1093. Vegan  |  April 25, 2016 at 2:07 pm

    CB, curious why did you select Franklin over Salazar and Brentano?

  • 1094. changers  |  April 25, 2016 at 2:14 pm

    LSmom, Thank you very much for the information!

  • 1095. Rebecca Wells  |  April 25, 2016 at 2:40 pm

    I don’t understand why they do a second round in may if they could still be calling off the waitlist close to the start of the school year? It doesn’t make sense to me…do they still call everyone on the original waitlist first??

  • 1096. Non Entry Level  |  April 25, 2016 at 2:44 pm

    @1060 teachermom:

    Thanks so much for the clarification on Brentano, it’s quite useful! Hope you had a great spring break!

  • 1097. LSmom  |  April 25, 2016 at 2:53 pm

    @Rebecca, I think they only call off the second round wait list once they have exhausted the first round list.

  • 1098. parent  |  April 25, 2016 at 3:14 pm

    @1089, kate you should go to the school and register your child.

  • 1099. TraceyJ  |  April 25, 2016 at 3:56 pm

    So low income students are not entitled to a quality education? Low income does not equal low mental acuity or abilities. I am a Beverly resident and this type of thinking really bothers me. It seems elitist.

  • 1100. 2FingersCrossed  |  April 25, 2016 at 6:41 pm

    @Mom of 2:

    Magnet cluster schools are basically neighborhood schools that take out of area students who apply IF they have space.

    So the simple solution is to enroll at your neighborhood school, the whole north Beverly community should in fact since Kellogg is such a small school, and there would be no need for offering outside students seats because the school will be at capacity. And just a FYI–Christ the King, nor Barnabas, is not better academically speaking so you’re just paying for a religious component, which is fine, but also an elitist environment.

  • 1101. cpsobsessed  |  April 25, 2016 at 10:45 pm

    The second round is traditionally for schools that may not have long waiting lists (up and coming schools, schools with spots in higher grades, etc.) So many of the schools that people post here for lower grades likely would not be on that 2nd chance list in May.

    It’s just a way to help even out supply and demand.

  • 1102. cpsobsessed  |  April 25, 2016 at 10:50 pm

    Regarding Ogden, I would say that anyone considering the school get a range of opinions that include people who you can talk to face to face rather than online (where, as we know, things can get distorted.)

    I know nothing of the situation except that it was proposed (not sure by who) that Ogden, a crowded high income school, merge with Jenner, a low income school with space. I believe the current people and some parents support this innovative idea. Others do not. Not surprisingly this leads to some disagreement.

    I applaud the folks who at least brought this idea to the table for discussion.

  • 1103. cpsobsessed  |  April 25, 2016 at 10:52 pm

    #1090, I don’t believe Pierce goes through the whole list any more. A few years back, anyone who applied would get a spot. but now many neighborhood families attend so they don’t have the space to fill up a ton of K classes like they used to.

  • 1104. PPmom  |  April 26, 2016 at 10:23 am

    @curiousmom we are in the same boat as you…my close friend has kids and nephews at CICS Irving Park so we applied and got accepted. We will tour tomorrow. I have heard it is the top performing charter school in the city…loads of resources, lots of group projects and differentiated instruction. Very test/data driven though. We are #11 for Disney 2, so if we *happen* to get a call from them we’ll take that spot…otherwise I think it’s a good option. They are transitioning to a year-round schedule, however. This school year starts Aug. 17…next year will be Aug. 7. Not sure how I feel about it.

  • 1105. Hoping  |  April 26, 2016 at 10:36 am

    I am in need of some clarification as i have seen conflicting answers. My child got an offer, but has low wait list numbers at 2 additional schools (1 of those schools i would take over the offer for geographical reasons). I have accepted at the “Offered” School, but have not filled out the application paperwork yet (have not received, called and they will be mailed out). Will this take my child off the wait list? Some have said it will, others have said that it does not and it will be my responsibility to let the “accepted” school know that we will not be attending.

    Also have another child entering 3rd Grade, wait listed General #1 at Galileo…..any chance? and if so, when do they generally start calling the General wait listed.


  • 1106. LSmom  |  April 26, 2016 at 10:43 am

    @Hoping, taking a magnet/magnet cluster/neighborhood offer and filling out paperwork won’t take you off other wait lists, although if you take a new offer you should contact the original school to let them know.

  • 1107. JMOChicago  |  April 26, 2016 at 10:45 am

    Ask about teacher turnover at CICS. How many new teachers have been trained each year since 2014? It used to be very high and why friends of ours left CICS for their neighborhood school…I haven’t been following it recently though. Don’t know if it has improved. High teacher turnover costs a school money, time and lost opportunities.

  • 1108. Hoping  |  April 26, 2016 at 10:55 am

    @LSmom thank you for clarifying, i thought that was what i was originally told but saw others saying otherwise.

  • 1109. OgdenParent2016  |  April 26, 2016 at 11:25 am

    1079. I would go with Franklin and can always come back to Ogden if things improve and stabilize. There is so much uncertainty with our leadership and the direction for next year. I think our principal fancies himself as the next Troy LaRaviere – very politically motivated and looking to make headlines. He also has a warning resolution on his record from CPS, so perhaps he will shape up after what happened at Blaine.

  • 1110. PPmom  |  April 26, 2016 at 11:36 am

    I know turnover at all charter schools can be high…teachers have a lot of demands placed upon them there, with less pay than at CPS…plus they aren’t unionized so they can be let go more easily.

  • 1111. Paisley  |  April 26, 2016 at 12:08 pm

    Agree with OgdenParent 2016. Of course, nobody reads comments on anonymous boards as gospel. Of course, you must weigh all your options. But Ogden is a mess right now and it will continue to be a mess with the current principal. The neighborhood preacher told all his congregation to vote for him and his pals so they can win a spot on the LSC. And the Jenner merger, whether you are for or against it, will not be seamless. It will be difficult at the best. At worst, it’s a social experiment gone awry.

  • 1112. CuriousMom  |  April 26, 2016 at 12:22 pm

    @PPmom, I am actually ok with the transition to a year-round schedule. I feel like it would be easier for my daughter to handle school if there are several breaks during the year.

    I was not aware of the high turnover rate for teachers. But it is a good question to ask at the tour tomorrow.

  • 1113. Livi's Mom  |  April 26, 2016 at 1:35 pm

    I called all of the Magnet schools my daughter is waitlisted for…

    Have not started the call process and will not start till June:

    For her tier she will not be called for Disney. Disney only has 5 slots for first grade tier 2.

    I would say call these schools like I did.

  • 1114. MediaConsentForm??  |  April 26, 2016 at 3:01 pm

    So I realize that this might be a silly question and possibly a tough question to answer, because likely it boils down to a personal choice that could vary from family to family for different reasons, but I thought I would throw out the question anyway… Does anyone have thoughts/feelings one way or the other on the “Media Consent Form and Release” for CPS? Any major cons that I should be aware, should we consent? Thanks!!

  • 1115. WPMomofThree  |  April 26, 2016 at 4:29 pm


    I speak with absolutely no knowledge of this particular campus (but with some knowledge of CICS). I spent three years at an incredibly well regarded charter in the Northeast and walked away certain that my children would never, ever attend a charter school. Now, having worked closely with novice CPS teachers, I’ve softened my stance a bit. (Sadly, because I think, perhaps, all or nearly all schools might be a bit lacking.)

    A few questions I would ask/concerns I might address:
    *What is the form and style of discipline used by the school? How much discretion does a teacher have in how classroom discipline is carried out? Under what instances are “zero tolerance” policies adopted?
    *How many of your teachers have 3 or more years experience? Five or more years? Ten or more years? (Similarly: How many teachers have been there, specifically, 3 years, 5 years, etc.?)
    *How much time is spent on testing? How does that compare to CPS?
    *How much of the curriculum is teacher written/driven? How much is network written/driven? What “boxed” or scripted curricula are used?

    Obviously, these are in addition to questions you would have. You definitely know your child best, but I do think that at the charter I worked at and at those I have toured, observed at, etc. the answers provided to some of these questions would have put up red flags for me. Again, this is just my two cents for sure. Best of luck to you! Whew, the public school navigation process is no joke.

  • 1116. Emily  |  April 26, 2016 at 7:22 pm

    Well, I checked in and see Kellogg has come up a lot on this thread! I am a neighborhood resident who sends my kid to Kellogg. It most definitely is an option for North Beverly residents, including families with high achieving kids.

    After visiting many, many schools for the K search, I learned not to trust neighborhood (or message board) gossip about a school, better to check a it out and form my own opinion of it. And I’m so glad I did. That’s why I put my email address out there, for anyone who is doing their research. Even in North Beverly, there are lots of us who send our kids to public school. Don’t think so? Email me, and we can meet up at Bridgeport Coffee 🙂 I’ll introduce you to them.

  • 1117. Northside Mom  |  April 26, 2016 at 7:24 pm


    Sometimes, I wish you could “like” the comments that you see on this site. lol.

  • 1118. 2nd Round Mom  |  April 26, 2016 at 7:37 pm

    Received offer this evening for
    1st grade at Murphy.,
    General wait list #1

    Will decline

    Hope this opens spot up for someone

  • 1119. Emily  |  April 26, 2016 at 7:41 pm

    Fwiw, I have a pretty good track record when it comes to recognizing undervalued schools. I know that everyone is looking for something different in schools, but when it comes to elementary options, I do know what I’m talking about 🙂

  • 1120. Jo  |  April 26, 2016 at 7:45 pm

    Do you have any info on CTK
    How does it compare academically to kellog

  • 1121. harry potter  |  April 26, 2016 at 8:21 pm

    @Curious mom, the questions that WP mom of 3 gave you are great. I would be interested in their answers. I have a friend at an AUSL school (not a charter, I know) which is raved about by different “education” people and they see 30-40% staff turnover every year. One classroom had 3 teachers in it this past year because people kept quitting or getting fired. Any school that has more than about 5% turnover year after year would cause me to wonder, 10% is a BIG problem. There’s always the random year where it can be high, but on a regular basis? No.

  • 1122. 3isacharm  |  April 26, 2016 at 8:34 pm

    I think they have state standard curiculm at CK. I toured about 2 years ago. They offered music and art .They may have a theater/acting dept. Classes were half the size. Teachers were young or old.It seemed as lots parents also attended.They had a computer lab as well. As far as I can remember.In January they have a open house. Kellogge is still a very nice school .It’s what works for your child and your family.

  • 1123. cpsobsessed  |  April 26, 2016 at 8:57 pm

    @1114 , about the Media consent form the only downside I can think of is they use an unflattering photo of your kid on the CPS website and don’t take it down for 5 years. 🙂

    I tend to not get too freaky about privacy so there might be something I’m overlooking. I don’t think CPS has a huge PR budget these days, so I imagine an occasional photo on a school site or CPS site is the most likely scenario.

  • 1124. CuriousMom  |  April 26, 2016 at 10:10 pm


    I appreciate the information. I will add these to my list of questions. Thank you. And I completely agree that this process is exhausting! This is my first time enrolling a child into the public school system and it has been a little overwhelming at times.

    @harry potter

    A high turnover rate would cause me to wonder too. We’ll see what they say tomorrow.

  • 1125. Paisley  |  April 26, 2016 at 10:38 pm

    I think the media consent is for custody cases, adoptive or foster kids. If someone isn’t supposed to have contact with a child and the child’s photo shows up on a CPS website, that could have serious consequences.

  • 1126. ACK  |  April 26, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    Received a call today
    Franklin Proximity 12
    Anyone have info they would like to share about Franklin? Why you love it? or not? Thanks

  • 1127. Mama Tigist  |  April 27, 2016 at 4:44 am

    For K, received a call Monday from Disney waitlist, tier 4 #11 and accepted. Thanks to all who have declined!!

    Any idea if Wm H. Ray previously has come anywhere near #42 on waitlist?

  • 1128. Emily  |  April 27, 2016 at 8:12 am

    @Jo, we have good friends with kids at CK, and they are very happy there. I actually have two friends with one kid at Kellogg and the other at CK. Definitely go visit both schools to get a feel for them, and come to the Kellogg playground on a nice day to talk to both Kellogg and CK parents. You can also attend a Kellogg LSC meeting, the next one is May 9. Or the upcoming Friends of Kellogg talent show fundraiser :)! I haven’t addressed your question about academics because I’ve found people have different ways they measure that — is it test scores? Where kids go to high school and college? The amount of homework they get? The kids’ ability to think critically? The amount of differentiation? That’s why it’s so important to visit, observe, meet teachers and administrators, and form your own judgment.

  • 1129. North Beverly Resident  |  April 27, 2016 at 8:58 am

    @1116 Emily, you are simply playing fast and loose with Kellogg and North Beverly. I’ve lived in North Beverly for over a decade and know a grand total of THREE families who sent their kids to Kellogg. 1 graduated their kids, 2 pulled them out for homeschooling.

    North Beverly families send their kids to CK, St Barnabas, Keller and Lenart. Kellogg is over 80% AA, 43% Low Income. This is NO WAY CLOSE in representing the demographics of North Beverly.

  • 1130. Jeanne Marie Olson (@JMOChicago)  |  April 27, 2016 at 9:09 am

    Lenart (31.8%) and Keller (43.7%) are actually close in terms of percentage of low income.

    Are you saying that your issue is race?

  • 1131. Another Beverly resident  |  April 27, 2016 at 9:18 am

    @ northbeverlyresident, God forbid you send your children to the same school as low income AA kids. And please believe that Keller and Lenart are not filled with Beverly residents, I’m sure you wish that were the case. Truth be told CTK and Barnabas aren’t that great academically.

  • 1132. North Beverly Resident  |  April 27, 2016 at 9:30 am

    @Jean Marie Olson– 2 points:

    1. Emily is trying to convince others that Kellogg is utilized by many North Beverly families. Having lived in North Beverly for years, I can tell you this is not the case. The demographics of N. Beverly (majority white, upper-middle class, home values averaging in high 300s, very little rental property) are in contrast with the demographics of Kellogg’s student body. So, Emily’s argument falls flat when you use math.

    2. Re: Race: I don’t have a dog in this fight, my kids are in CPS SEHS, so it doesn’t affect me. However, read these posts about “I’m waitlisted at Kellogg” or “I’m waitlisted at Sutherland” or “We got into Clissold”. You are NOT reading “We’re at Esmond!” or “Shoop is where we’re gonna go” or Gresham, Fort Dearborn, Fernwood, etc. Why? To be completely honest, regardless of race, parents DO NOT want to send their kids to a majority low-income African-American school.

    I don’t know if it is a safety issue, worrying about the achievement gap, people wanting to send their kids to a school with a better parent association/stronger fundraising, I dunnno.

    Look at what people are posting here about where they WANT to send their kids. Then get back to us.

  • 1133. North Beverly Resident  |  April 27, 2016 at 9:40 am

    @1131 Really? So St Barnabas had to REFUSE students this year because so many families are pulling their kids from Sutherland. Sutherland must be doing GREAT.

    And re: CK and St Barnabas academics: Do you have any comparison to CK & St B. with Clissold, Kellogg and Sutherland, or is it just because you say so?

  • 1134. 3isacharm  |  April 27, 2016 at 11:13 am

    Well we’ve been waiting since 3 yrs to get called off the waiting list from both Clissold & Sutherland. No luck! I’ve tried Kellogg we were called but it didn’t work for my child.The system is difficult. I can see why people don’t bother if they don’t have to. The only private Catholic school that do NWEA is SJ F as far as I know. But they must be doing a good job because these children go onto top high schools.

  • 1135. Happyhappy  |  April 27, 2016 at 12:14 pm

    LASALLE II input please? Currently at Drummond, 3rd grade. Thanks

  • 1136. Rebecca Wells  |  April 27, 2016 at 12:19 pm

    Just declined a K seat at Columbus. We were #5 on the waitlist. 🙂

  • 1137. gamutgal68  |  April 27, 2016 at 2:26 pm

    We also just got a call from Columbus and will be declining our K offer. We are Tier 3 and were #7 on their waitlist. I hope this helps someone down the line…

  • 1138. gamutgal68  |  April 27, 2016 at 2:47 pm

    Oops. The tiers don’t come into play at Columbus… So to clarify, we were simply #7 on the general waitlist. 👍

  • 1139. Hoping  |  April 27, 2016 at 2:49 pm

    Was there a reason for declining? I noticed another person posted a decline to Columbus. I have yet to tour and was looking for more information about the school, not much online other than mixed reviews from years past.

  • 1140. Rebecca Wells  |  April 27, 2016 at 2:55 pm

    We declined due to location. 🙂 We’re in Portage Park and the thought of driving to Ukrainian Village every day didn’t sound appealing…

  • 1141. Hoping  |  April 27, 2016 at 3:04 pm

    Makes a lot of sense, commute can be grueling and I understand they have no bus service

  • 1142. gamutgal68  |  April 27, 2016 at 3:10 pm

    We declined Columbus because we accepted a spot at Brentano.

  • 1143. GenBreen  |  April 27, 2016 at 3:34 pm

    MediaConsentForm…I haven’t signed off on the media consent form in the three years my kids have been in cps. Just a personal choice. We prefer to keep pics of our family private unless WE choose to make their pictures public. Again, just a personal choice. I think most parents sign the form, but there are definitely some that don’t.

  • 1144. Re: Beverly Schools  |  April 27, 2016 at 4:38 pm

    Regarding Beverly area schools: They’re all pretty good, the only problem with a Beverly CPS school is putting up with CPS craziness. That’s just not isolated to Beverly, though — good luck!

    Someone mentioned Fernwood, which is an elementary school in Roseland. Reading and Math scores at Fernwood are in the high 90s — GREAT JOB!

  • 1145. Emily  |  April 27, 2016 at 9:28 pm

    @North Beverly Resident, if you know only three neighborhood families sending kids to Kellogg, I’d like to introduce you to some more. The offer still stands to meet for coffee at Bridgeport, and it sounds like we would have a lot to talk about. It’s true that Kellogg is majority African American, and believe it or not, many of the students are still your neighbors, living in North Beverly. And some of the students coming from “outside the neighborhood” are coming from East Beverly, just blocks away.

    Are there non-neighborhood kids at Kellogg? Most definitely. Are there neighborhood kids at Kellogg? Most definitely! When we moved to the area, the word on my street was to avoid Kellogg, for many of the reasons you expressed. That’s why I’m glad I visited the school and saw for myself all the many reasons to go. We’re happy there and have no plans to leave for Keller or Lennart or anywhere else.

    I would encourage others to visit a school and playground, and talk to current families when picking a school. That doesn’t just apply to Kellogg, it applies to lots neighborhood schools. Don’t trust the gossip — or the hype, either.

  • 1146. NTA Qs  |  April 27, 2016 at 10:53 pm

    @1121 harry potter:

    Oh! I thought that AUSL schools were charter schools. Shows what I know. What does it mean to be an AUSL school? If it’s not a charter, does that mean there may be a strong union presence in the school?

    Also, are there multiple AUSL schools within CPS?

  • 1147. reality check  |  April 28, 2016 at 10:26 am

    why do you people apply to all these schools you have no intention of attending? So bizarre

  • 1148. Patiently waiting  |  April 28, 2016 at 10:46 am

    Has anyone been called off the waitlist yet for O.A. Thorpe?

  • 1149. DoSayMore  |  April 28, 2016 at 11:01 am

    @1134: 3isacharm: What do you mean you tried Kellogg? Did your child attend the school? What was your experience? What about it didn’t work? Please elaborate.

  • 1150. Rebecca Wells  |  April 28, 2016 at 11:29 am

    @1148 – I called Thorp before spring break and they said they wouldn’t be calling until the first week in May.

  • 1151. Patiently waiting  |  April 28, 2016 at 11:39 am

    OK thanks

  • 1152. Tiffany  |  April 28, 2016 at 11:58 am

    Called Drummond this morning to check on the PreK-4 waitlist. They said all spots were accepted – so no dipping into the waitlist.

  • 1153. 3isacharm  |  April 28, 2016 at 12:06 pm

    Dosaymore Yes he’s currently 2nd grader. He attended for 1st and the start of 2nd. He had a teacher who left mid year her replacement was great. His grades went down I even had the councillor look into it. The boys in his class were pretty disruptive. It just wasn’t working for him. It’s unfortunate because he has younger brothers and the class size was smaller.He’s currently at VP at has done much better acdemicly. Socially no close friends.

  • 1154. HHSL  |  April 28, 2016 at 12:15 pm

    Just called Andrew Jackson. They won’t be calling off of the waitlist until after May 15.

  • 1155. Seneca  |  April 28, 2016 at 12:37 pm

    Has anyone on the tier 1 waiting list received any offers from Galileo, Stem, Hawthorne, Andrew Jackson, Newberry, or Disney? I am chomping the bit. Patience is not one of my top strengths.

    Tier 1 Wait Listed

    Galileo #7
    Stem #9
    Hawthorne #10
    Andrew Jackson #26
    Newberry #39
    Disney #83

  • 1156. WPMomofThree  |  April 28, 2016 at 2:02 pm

    @1146 NTA Qs

    AUSL is a (non profit) school management organization. They are contracted out by the city. They provide “turnaround” services to struggling schools (teacher hiring and training, principal hiring and support, help with restructuring, etc). The schools are still CPS schools, and teachers are still part of CTU. Teaching new teachers, I worked with quite a few AUSL teachers. The coaching they received through AUSL was generally very high quality, they had access to any/all resources they wanted or needed, and they typically did a solid job of differentiating, assessing, etc.

    What stood out for me was how young (!) the staff at many of the schools were. Expectations and time demands are higher than typical CPS schools so the schools did seem to draw younger teachers who tend not to mind the longer hours, constant feedback, coaching, etc. quite as much. In my experience a younger staff does tend to equal more turnover. Additionally, it is four years (I believe. I haven’t checked super recently.) until tenure so firing is probably also more common just because there are fewer tenured teachers.

    Having worked at both charter and district, my outsider’s opinion was the schools looked a lot more charter than district.

  • 1157. Seneca  |  April 28, 2016 at 2:45 pm

    I just received a call from Hawthorne with an offer that I happily accepted. My child was #10 on their tier 1 waiting list.

  • 1158. Mama Tigist  |  April 28, 2016 at 2:52 pm

    Earlier on this thread, someone mentioned that when a school won’t let you take a tour, it should be a red flag. We accepted Disney for K (Tier 4 #11) but they won’t let us visit school ( too disruptive). We have never seen the place since we live in Hyde Park. Any advice one way or the other. Thanks.

  • 1159. Seneca  |  April 28, 2016 at 3:30 pm

    My daughter is graduating from Disney in June. She has been there since 1st grade. She is in the gifted program. Overall it is a good school. It is very focused on technology. They have 17 computer labs. They have a lot of ancillary or specials classes related to programming and coding, but they also have art, music, sports. They only have language for the children in the gifted program. The language is Chinese. The thing that is most different about Disney compared to other schools is there are no walls separating the different classrooms within the same grade. There are Kindergarten classes and they call them pods. They Kindergarten classes are located on the second floor of the building and it is a big open space with desks. The only things separating the classes are the furniture i.e. book cases and the free standing cubbies. So you can hear what is going on in every class. This may be distracting for some students, but kids adjust and adapt. When I volunteered at the beginning of the school year, the kids were distracted by the parent tours. But towards the end of the school year the kids are not phased by the parent tours. The principal can be rough around the edges. She can be sarcastic but the school is run well. I think she is a task oriented personality.

    The kids have gym twice a week. Most of the subjects are taught in the kids main class/area but by different teachers for the various subjects.They have an after school program that is run by the Disney staff. Some schools are now outsourcing their after school programs to Right at School (Hawthorne) or Youth Guidance (Stem Magnet).

    Hopefully this helps

  • 1160. ProspectiveWardParent  |  April 28, 2016 at 4:12 pm

    Does anyone have any insight on James Ward Elementary School?? Thanks in advance.

  • 1161. Drida  |  April 28, 2016 at 4:33 pm

    My son is in kindergarten at Hawthorne and we could not be happier with this first year. I hope your child’s experience is as wonderful!

  • 1162. Hawthorne wait list calls?  |  April 28, 2016 at 5:43 pm

    Has anyone received a wait list call for Hawthorne for a grade above kindergarten?

  • 1163. harry potter  |  April 28, 2016 at 6:01 pm

    @1146, AUSL takes over underperforming schools, fires all the staff, hires new staff and controls the school. Kids in the school I know have to stand exactly, and I do mean exactly one tile square apart while in line at all times. There is no noise of any kind tolerated in the hall. Play in full day kindergarten is strictly forbidden. My friend who teaches in an AUSL has to “sneak” in play and risk her job over allowing it. It is an environment that has made my talented, passionate and caring teacher friend prepared to leave teaching entirely. She will not be returning next year. She’s been told over and over that the demographics of the kids requires a militaristic approach. Its all very racist. And way too much like many charter schools in its rigidity. I’d avoid like the plague, but of course that is my own opinion.

  • 1164. NTA Qs  |  April 28, 2016 at 9:24 pm

    @1156 WPMomofThree and @1163 harry potter:

    Thanks so much for the background on and your experience with AUSL schools. I thought I knew CPS, but the more I learn, the more I realize I don’t know.

    WPMomofThree: Did you see the level of discipline described by harry potter at most (all?) of the AUSL schools you worked in? Or did it vary across schools?

    harry potter: Would you be willing to share the name of the specific school you are referring to, on or off line? (I can be reached at NTAquestions at gmail etc.) We are strongly considering an AUSL school for our kid (as is probably obvious by my ‘name’), and I am wondering if it is the same one you are referring to. I know different people have different views on that level of discipline, but I suspect that sort of environment would be a poor fit for my kid.

  • 1165. Near South Sider  |  April 29, 2016 at 6:50 am

    @NTA Qs

    I’m unfamiliar with the practices described by Harry Potter, and while they may be true at some AUSL schools, that kind of environment is not present at NTA. Remember that NTA is *not* a turnaround school. It is the teacher training facility where the resident teachers work in order to gain their classroom hours and experience while working with a mentor teacher. There are only a few mentor teachers at NTA (about 7 or so), so what that means is if your kid has a teacher who is a mentor, there will be another adult in the classroom who helps with instruction. This is only a positive in my book as the student/teacher ratio is cut down from about 1:30 to 1:15.

    Also, the majority of the teachers at NTA are not new, and some have been with the school since it opened in 2004. In fact, the RGC teacher mentioned in the SEES thread, Mrs. Both, is one of the teachers who has worked at NTA since it opened its doors, and prior to that, she was at another CPS school. She has a total of about 20 years teaching in the system.

    Anecdotes are all fine and are helpful to an extent, but they really can’t replace actual experience. If you can, schedule a tour during the day at NTA (the office is very accommodating), and see for yourself if the school will be a good fit for your child.

  • 1166. CPS mom too  |  April 29, 2016 at 8:35 am

    @NTA Qs I’d also add that while there’s not as much play in kindergarten as I’d like — that’s basically the case everywhere– there is definitely play. The kiddos have what they call “afternoon centers” which is basically somewhat structured play time, plus recess everyday. Add in gym, swim, art and music and there’s plenty of non-academic time.

    Oh, and one other advantage of NTA being a teacher training academy is that the teachers are super collaborative and seem (at least from what a parent can tell) to be constantly working together to solve problems/come up with new ways of presenting material, etc. The mix of more experienced teachers and younger trainees is actually a plus in my opinion.

  • 1167. parent  |  April 29, 2016 at 9:51 am

    #1155 Seneca
    My daughter is #2 on the waiting list for STEM tier 1 and I have not yet received a call. I will be rejecting if they do call so good luck!

  • 1168. reality check  |  April 29, 2016 at 10:32 am

    Shocked that Hawthorne made it to #10 on waiting list….

  • 1169. WPMomofThree  |  April 29, 2016 at 10:40 am

    @NTA Qs

    The experience of the teachers I worked with generally seems to be a bit different than @harrypotter’s friend. They were incredibly warm and thoughtful teachers, and I was never lead to believe nor did I observe that they had to take an approach that was at odds with their beliefs. Of course, administrations, schools and teachers can vary widely (!) within an organization like AUSL (or any management organization, which is not different than any other field quite frankly. My mom works in hospital administration, and she constantly discusses how one hospital in a network can look completely different than another.)

    I definitely agree with the sentiments echoed that you have to find a good fit for your child and your family. I’m convinced more and more that no “perfect” school exists. I did my grad school training in the magical, progressive education land of the Upper West Side of NYC, and I was so unimpressed. I’ve taught in district and charter, and there were flaws there, too. No school is going to be right for every child or family (or teacher or administrator, for that matter).

    Ask lots of questions, talk to guardians who like the school and those who are critical, observe if possible and then make the best choice you can.

  • 1170. Weebs1818  |  April 29, 2016 at 10:49 am

    Current Kellogg parent AND North Beverly resident right here! We’ve had a great experience at Kellogg. If you take the time to explore what’s going on at the school, you’ll find an engaged community with terrific parents, students, teachers, and administration. We LOVE the extracurricular activities offered as part of the Youth Guidance program. Emily is just one of many parents at Kellogg who works hard to build a strong school community. Walk into the school, talk to the people around you, and you will find a great neighborhood school that I have been proud to send my daughter to for the past year.

  • 1171. NTA Qs  |  April 29, 2016 at 11:01 am

    @1165 Near South Sider:

    Thanks so much for your input! I feel like I’m really learning a lot about NTA, which is terrific.

    I do have a follow-up question: for some reason, I was under the impression that every classroom has a mentor teacher and a resident (student) teacher. But what I hear you saying is that some classrooms have a mentor teacher and resident teacher together in the classroom, but others only have a resident teacher in the classroom. Do I have that correct?

    And then am I correct in assuming that the seven mentor teachers help guide all the remaining resident teachers in the school, even if they are not in the classroom together? Are there differences between the neighborhood school and the RGC in terms of classrooms that have mentor teachers and resident teachers?

    @1169 WPMomofThree:

    I absolutely agree there is no perfect school, only the best fit for a particular child. I’m delighted to hear that you had such a positive experience with the teachers at NTA. I have had similar experiences with different subgroups within the same large organization having different cultures, so I am not surprised to hear that.

    I will definitely be talking to parents and touring the school in the next couple of weeks.

    Thanks again for your input!

  • 1172. Kenwood Parent  |  April 29, 2016 at 11:26 am

    We were entertaining moving to Beverly if our son received a spot at Keller or Lennart. However, the “North Beverly” and “East Beverly” language is very off putting. I had no idea that there was so much division in Beverly (geographical, racial, economic, or otherwise).

  • 1173. MediaConsentForm??  |  April 29, 2016 at 12:39 pm

    @1123 cpsobsessed, @1125 paisley, @1143 GenBreen

    Thanks very much to the three of you for giving me a few different perspectives on the Media Consent Form. It doesn’t sound like there are any overt “cons” to consenting, but I am also glad to hear that families are free to opt out without issue. As I suspected, it kind of boils down to a personal choice… 🙂 Thanks again!!

  • 1174. sp  |  April 29, 2016 at 12:43 pm

    how does the waitlist calling for magnet schools work? Ours is waitlist #27 for Hawthorne – proximity. Do they call proximity waitlist before calling tier waitlist or do they start calling proximity, tiers and general together? Thanks!!

  • 1175. Drida  |  April 29, 2016 at 1:10 pm

    My understanding is that they’ll have separate wait lists per category. So, you’d need 27 proximity kids not to accept their offer to receive an offer, regardless of spots filled by the 4 tiers and siblings. If you’re #3 on the Tier 2 wait list, you’d need 3 kids to give up their spots and so on.

  • 1176. Near South Sider  |  April 29, 2016 at 1:36 pm

    @NTA Qs

    I separated out your questions for clarity:
    I do have a follow-up question: for some reason, I was under the impression that every classroom has a mentor teacher and a resident (student) teacher. But what I hear you saying is that some classrooms have a mentor teacher and resident teacher together in the classroom, but others only have a resident teacher in the classroom. Do I have that correct?

    Every classroom does not have a mentor teacher and a resident teacher. There is training that goes into part of the process of becoming a mentor teacher, and there are only a handful of teachers who have these qualifications (I’ve heard that there are about seven or so mentor teachers throughout the entire school).

    So the majority of the classrooms at NTA just have one teacher–either an experienced, tenured CPS teacher or a new, untenured CPS teacher.

    Even the mentor teachers don’t have the resident teacher in the classroom all the time. At the beginning of the school year, the resident was in my kid’s class M-TH, and she was gone on Fridays taking classes. Some resident teachers float to other schools, resident teachers drop out of the program, and sometimes, a mentor isn’t assigned a resident at all. So even if your child has a mentor teacher as his/her teacher, there will not be a resident teacher in the classroom every day of the year.
    And then am I correct in assuming that the seven mentor teachers help guide all the remaining resident teachers in the school, even if they are not in the classroom together? Are there differences between the neighborhood school and the RGC in terms of classrooms that have mentor teachers and resident teachers?

    I do believe that all the mentor teachers collaborate in terms of how things are going with their residents. I also think that the residents have the ability to test out other grades every once in a while, which means shifting classrooms and therefore mentors. I can’t be 100% certain, however.

    There are no differences in terms of neighborhood and RGC mentor teachers. In fact, I believe (I may be wrong) that Mrs. Both is the only RGC teacher who is also a mentor teacher. Even if I am wrong about that, the majority of the mentor teachers are neighborhood teachers.

    Also remember that the RGC program is new and only goes up to third grade; therefore, there are only four RGC teachers at the school.

  • 1177. dunningsquaremomof2  |  April 29, 2016 at 2:01 pm

    Was accepted by Thorp Scholastic for incoming Kindergartener will be turning down as my fist grader was wait listed at all the schools we applied for including Thorp. My children were entered in lottery for Rowe Elementary charter and got accepted. So anyone on wait list for K at Thorp. Congrats. Would have kept my slot if both my girls were accepted Thorp or if my 1st grader had a real chance waitlist #. She was 165…..for Thorp. Such a shame. CPS is crap shoot separating siblings.

  • 1178. Huh?  |  April 29, 2016 at 2:05 pm

    @1172 Keller is in Mt Greenwood, Lenart is at 81st and the Ryan. Why would you move to Beverly if you wanted to attend either school — wouldn’t you want to be closer to your child’s school and avoid a 30-45 minute RT commute?

  • 1179. JKS  |  April 29, 2016 at 3:01 pm

    We have just declined our spot at Franklin (#11 Tier 4) so that should free up a spot on the list.

  • 1180. karet  |  April 29, 2016 at 3:27 pm

    @1177, your 1st grader would automatically get in to Thorp next year as a sibling. You’d only have them in separate schools for one year.

  • 1181. Rebecca Wells  |  April 29, 2016 at 3:37 pm

    @1177 dunningsquremomof2, did you decline a proximity or tiered spot at Thorp?

  • 1182. dunningsquaremomof2  |  April 29, 2016 at 5:13 pm

    My child was not waitlisted for kindergarten at Thorp she got her named pulled from lottery. Her sister who is going to be first grader was waitlisted #165 at Thorp. So there was not tier for or proximity for K at Thorp.

  • 1183. dunningsquaremomof2  |  April 29, 2016 at 5:23 pm

    Rebecca Wells trust me this was not an easy decision for my family. I go to school FT in river Grove and live near diversey and oak park. While Locke is our neighborhood school there is no after school program and I need a school that offers this as I work as well. One year would be too hard withy work and school schedule. Rowe is not close but at least they will be in the same school and I can drop them off by 7:15 am and pick up at 5:45 more than enough time for my school schedule and work schedule. Plus Rowe is one of the top 10 charter schools in Chicago.my first grader was #22 at Edgebrook but who knows……I could do Edgebrook and Thorp but I have not heard from Edgebrook.

  • 1184. harry potter  |  April 29, 2016 at 6:49 pm

    @1164, NTA is not an AUSL school.

    @1166, re: play. I now teach in a half day suburban kindergarten program (2.5 hours a day) and we either go outside for recess every day or play inside every day. I hope CPS follows the direction of good districts like mine. In a 7 hour a day kindergarten program there should be at minimum 2 outdoor recesses plus a good chunk of indoor fantasy/symbolic play. Anything less is just poor pedagogical understanding of what young learners need. Fwiw, my district is about 50% poverty level and my school is closer to 80% poverty level. Our behavior issues are down, our academic achievement is way up and the kids? They are so freaking happy.

  • 1185. sdm929  |  April 30, 2016 at 8:32 am

    We got the call from Burr yesterday and are accepting the Kindergarten seat. We were #27 on the waitlist.

  • 1186. Seneca  |  April 30, 2016 at 8:44 am


    Does your child go to the after school program at Hawthorne?

  • 1187. Seneca  |  April 30, 2016 at 8:54 am

    @1158 Mama Tigist

    Disney has 7 Kindergarten classes. It is a large school with over 1600 kids total. Because there is no real separation between the classrooms, the principal said if your child has been diagnosed with ADHD then Disney might not be a good fit for you.

  • 1188. Drida  |  April 30, 2016 at 10:24 am

    Hi, Seneca. Yes, he does, everyday. We’re really pleased with Right af School. They do a good mix of letting the kids play games, arts, playground time, special learning units, homework help and occasionally watch movies. In addition to “regular” after care until 6 pm, they also offer additional classes during that time for a fee like cooking, karate, theater, Spanish, “Rookie Sports” and yoga.

    Write me if you have other questions about Hawthorne or its after care, adrianinha at gmail.

  • 1189. Kenwood Parent  |  May 1, 2016 at 7:46 am


    As you can see, I currently live in Kenwood. My commute would be much more difficult coming from 47th and the lake.

    Most importantly, we were considering racially diverse neighborhoods near selective enrollment a because my kids are biracial. Neither neighborhood surrounding Lennart or Keller is racially diverse. Beverly is a racially diverse neighborhood (by Chicago standards), but it appears that Beverly is not exactly the racial melting pot that it is often depicted as.

  • 1190. 3isacharm  |  May 1, 2016 at 9:25 am

    Kenwood Parent good luck on your search. And atleast school boundaries don’t have to influence your decision. It’s a great place for kids as much as we complain.Beverly parents want the best for there children.I live in east and love my neighborhood.Alot of people here go to Lab or commute to where you are to work.

  • 1191. CPS mom too  |  May 1, 2016 at 8:09 pm

    @1184 We’d love that much play, but as parents committed to the city, and to CPS (not all of us can/want to move the suburbs or pay for private), there just aren’t a lot of options with that much play. I guess I was saying that you don’t get that much play at CPS. My friends’ kids at fancy pants private schools get lots of play.

    (FWIW, I sent my kids to a play-based preschool and would MUCH rather see more play in kindergarten but I haven’t heard of a CPS school with that has a significantly different approach. We try to cram as much free play into the afternoons and weekends as we can…)

  • 1192. LenartMom  |  May 2, 2016 at 7:21 am

    @KenwoodParent If you want racial diversity, you’ll be hard pressed to find it in Chicago, unfortunately. You might be better off staying in Hyde Park & taking the SB Ryan to 79th St, and dropping your kids off at Lenart.

    What’s wrong with the area around Lenart? Chatham is very nice and stable, and close to shopping and transportation.

  • 1193. 1MoreSouthSider  |  May 2, 2016 at 9:39 am

    @Harry Potter and @NTAQ’s I have a child at NTA and although I have not been inside any AUSL schools, I have spent an extensive amount of time on all floors of NTA both during the school day and after school. The students are required to be at level 0 (quiet) during certain times, particularly during transition in the hallway as to not disturb those working in classrooms. I have seen this handled very smoothly as students move up/down the stairs, restrooms, hallway, lunch, etc. I’ve also been on multiple field trips and have seen kids acting up (to the point where I wanted to put my hands on them LOL), but have seen the teachers handle those situations with love and patience.

    I would assume that the AUSL situation noted above is an exception, not the norm. As a matter of fact, I attended an AUSL school/parent appreciation event last year at Soldier Field and it was so much fun! I can’t imagine that the energy and excitement that I saw from the staff during that event is not filtered to the classroom.

  • 1194. cpsmom  |  May 2, 2016 at 11:15 am

    @ Kenwood Parent, Just another Beverly opinion…I live in Beverly (and have for the past 13 years). I do think that Beverly is about as close as you can get in Chicago as a melting pot (Only 2nd to Hyde Park and maybe the greater south loop area). We are not Catholic and attend a school outside the neighborhood, yet, for the most part have not felt the “exclusivity” described. People that we have made friends with include neighbors and other parents through many kid activities. Most people here are down-to-earth and value the diversity of the area. I do think this is particular to the central beverly area as well as the east beverly area. You are right that Mt. Greenwood lacks diversity, as does most of West Beverly (west of western).

  • 1195. Heather W  |  May 2, 2016 at 10:11 pm

    For anyone still looking or waiting on wait lists, I’d like to toss out a feather for Chappell. My son is in Kindergarten there and we love it! He has art, music, and PE three times a week. They are well equipped, and the facilities are bright and clean and sunny. They have before and after care. We couldn’t be happier!

  • 1196. SickofBeverly  |  May 2, 2016 at 10:28 pm

    I’m getting a bit tired of the Beverly chatter. It’s hardly even in the city, it’s almost a suburb. All the Beverly folks need to go on a private Facebook page. Or get your own thread. And there are no good restaurants down there, I don’t know why anyone lives there. And apparently, no good schools since everyone is busting ass to get to NTA. Nothing to do but fight on CPSObsessed I guess.

  • 1197. TraceyJ  |  May 2, 2016 at 11:37 pm

    Your comments are laughable. For the last couple of years this message board has been dominated by north side, west loop and south loop parents having active discussions about their schools and neighborhoods. Of the hundreds of comments on his thread most are focused on the neighborhoods mentioned above. Why the Beverly hate? Seems unnecessary. Everyone on this board has a right to discuss their situation without feeling insulted.

  • 1198. SickofBeverly  |  May 3, 2016 at 12:48 am

    Not quite sure what is laughable. Truthful? Yes. The board is “dominated” by the north side, west and south loop. These are huge areas so lots of schools get covered. Now it’s about Beverly which is a micro neighborhood. It’s just a dumb place to go live if you are Catholic and don’t care about nice restaurants. And everyone that moves to Beverly can’t afford Lincoln park.

  • 1199. puzzled  |  May 3, 2016 at 7:29 am

    @Sick of…
    I wondered how Trump got on this thread. Irrelevant insults. all religions have majority of us who can’t afford Lincoln park and love where we live.

  • 1200. Hoping  |  May 3, 2016 at 8:17 am

    Any more Wait list calls? I am sitting here……impatiently waiting. #1 at Galileo General Wait list, 3rd Grade

  • 1201. Love for Beverly  |  May 3, 2016 at 9:03 am

    @sickofbeverly Why the hate and negativity? You sound like a SUPER person. This board is dominated with North side chatter. A few Beverly residents speak up and we are told to get our own board?!? This is SO typical prejudice and hate towards the south side. Beverly is the city, last I checked and Beverly residents have as much right as anyone else to be on this board. I do not care about North side schools, but certainly wouldn’t be so RUDE to tell them to shut up. To my fellow Beverly residents, please, please bombard this board! I look forward to your thoughts on good schools and a great neighborhood.

  • 1202. JenRN  |  May 3, 2016 at 9:58 am

    Okay, everyone, let’s play nicely here. Back to the reason this board exists, ok? We are all trying to share helpful information for the benefit of each other and our kids. We are all part of a great city (ALL of our neighborhoods make it great) with a difficult school system to navigate. If a comment doesn’t apply to you, just scroll on by. Back to helpful comments, please. I have really appreciated everyone’s insight. Thanks to all.

  • 1203. Jen  |  May 3, 2016 at 10:02 am

    Has anyone heard if OA Thorp has started their wait list calls yet? I know someone mentioned that they were supposed to start calling the first week of May.

  • 1204. Kinderin60643  |  May 3, 2016 at 10:42 am

    Please check your emails as well…I got an offer for a school via email and sad to say I had not checked my email. Offers are slowly coming in….Best of luck as we continue to navigate the CPS School System.

  • 1205. Jan  |  May 3, 2016 at 10:52 am

    I just rejected an offer from STEM for K waitlisted #2

  • 1206. BSP in OIP  |  May 3, 2016 at 11:04 am

    @ 1203. Jen – I called Thorp yesterday – should be starting end of this week – early next week.

    They are still processing registrations to assess current enrollment numbers.

    Keeping my fingers crossed… My daughter is T3 #13 for a K spot. Holding out hope that I will get a call!

  • 1207. Jen  |  May 3, 2016 at 11:41 am

    BSP in OIP, thank you for making the call. My daughter is wait listed #14 in T4, also for K. I feel your pain. Good luck to you and your family!

  • 1208. stressedmom  |  May 3, 2016 at 11:58 am

    Stem called, and we accepted. We are tier 2, #6.

  • 1209. momof03  |  May 3, 2016 at 12:04 pm

    I just received an offer from Stem wait listed #5 tier 3 for Kinder. We rejected the offer as we accepted an offer from our first choice a couple of weeks ago.

  • 1210. Not sure what to do.  |  May 3, 2016 at 12:15 pm

    Stem called, waitlisted #8 proximity. We live in the Skinner West neighborhood, Which one should we take? Does anyone know any kids go to Stem instead of SW?

  • 1211. FutureLasalleParent  |  May 3, 2016 at 12:22 pm

    Just rcvd a call from LaSalle today. We accepted the offer (waitlisted #5). We’re excited. This should open up a seat for Disney as we’re now declining their offer. Good luck!

  • 1212. cpsobsessed  |  May 3, 2016 at 12:27 pm

    Agreed – about just ignore comments on the schools that do not apply to you. for years the complaint was that people here only discuss the same neighborhoods. So now we finally have input on other areas of the city, which is helpful to some (and not to others which is the way it’ll always be.)

    If you have knowledge of other schools, feel free to share. Information is helpful to help everyone assess schools including their own!

  • 1213. BSP in OIP  |  May 3, 2016 at 12:29 pm

    @ 1207. Jen – good luck to you as well! … we should start to see a lot of movement – but I’m sure the calls are going to be slow to come.

  • 1214. Changers  |  May 3, 2016 at 12:55 pm

    Hi, may I ask what grade and tier you are at LaSalle’s list? Thanks a lot!!

  • 1215. AK  |  May 3, 2016 at 1:25 pm

    Just declined a K spot at Peirce. We were #48 on the general wait list.

  • 1216. FutureLasalleParent  |  May 3, 2016 at 1:35 pm

    Sure! Kindergarten, tier 1.

  • 1217. Julia  |  May 3, 2016 at 1:38 pm

    We also just declined a K spot at Peirce, where we were somewhere between 10 and 20 on the general waitlist.

  • 1218. Swift vs. Peirce  |  May 3, 2016 at 2:47 pm

    Anyone have any thoughts on Swift vs. Peirce?

  • 1219. cpsobsessed  |  May 3, 2016 at 3:28 pm

    @1218: Just looking at CPS school profiles:

    Swift has a pool (!) and is a performing arts magnet school which is appealing.
    It is also nearly half limited English students (fwiw.)

    Peirce is an IB school and I know has a good parent support group (not sure about Swift.)

  • 1220. AK  |  May 3, 2016 at 3:32 pm

    I visited Swift and Peirce in the fall/spring, and both seem like fine schools. I would say Peirce is a little further along in being an established “good” school (in terms of test scores), but Swift seems like it is heading in the right direction. Swift has a large number of ELL and I think that does hurt them in test scores. I really liked the principal at Swift; the kids seem to love him too. All kids get free lunch (whether they qualify or not). After-school program is done through the Broadway Armory, while Peirce’s afterschool is on campus (I’m pretty sure). Peirce is starting a K-8 IB program and I think they are partnering or on track to partner with Senn’s HS IB program. Swift has really small class sizes, the principal said he caps his K classes at 24 kids per class (there are three K classes). Not sure how he does it, but that is the only CPS school I saw with K classes that small. Good luck in your decision!

  • 1221. RE: Swift v Pierce  |  May 3, 2016 at 3:58 pm

    @1218 – We lived a block away from Swift for the last 8 years and it was our neighborhood school (but we got into SEES and didn’t go there). 1220 is right that it is trending in the right direction. The current principal was the asst. principal and is keeping up the energy of the principal who left and had really started some positive work. They do have a “Friends of Swift” parent group, but it is minimally active from what I saw and only formed a few years ago. The neighborhood is so diverse that it is lots of ELL students, though I understand they do a good job supporting them. My child did after care at the Broadway Armory with the Swift kids and was happy. My biggest issue, being totally honest, was it’s location. We left that area in part because of the ongoing problems with gun violence on those blocks between the lake and Broadway. The school playground is right on a corner that is a little “hot” and there are times they will put the school on lock down if the Alderman and police feel it is warranted. I don’t know how often that happens, but the previous principal had shared that on a neighborhood group a few years ago. If I had to choose between the two schools, all else being even but location, I would choose Pierce. Just a safer part of Edgewater.

  • 1222. Ak  |  May 3, 2016 at 4:56 pm

    To piggyback on this; peirce is a safer area, but swift has 2 or 3 off duty police as security. The area is more prone to criminal activity, and the principal is aware of the reputation. I think he is doing what he can and the neighborhood is getting safer on the whole.

  • 1223. Bmom  |  May 3, 2016 at 6:35 pm

    What tier are you?
    We are tier 3 wait list #10 STEM

  • 1224. UrbanMom  |  May 3, 2016 at 6:50 pm

    Just declined a K spot at Burr, WL # 4

  • 1225. UrbanMom  |  May 3, 2016 at 6:51 pm

    Sorry I meant WL# 45

  • 1226. Swift vs. Peirce  |  May 3, 2016 at 9:37 pm

    Thanks for the multiple comments re: Swift and Peirce. We were just offered a spot at both (our only offers so far) and are weighing small class size vs. strong parent support. Both really important!

  • 1227. HydeParkMom  |  May 3, 2016 at 9:57 pm

    I was offered a spot at McClellan and called off the waitlist from Alcott for 1st grade. We declined both as we will stay at his current school. Those spots are open for FYI.

  • 1228. Not sure what to do.  |  May 3, 2016 at 10:09 pm

    STEM vs Skinner West Neighborhood. Any thoughts parents?

  • 1229. WesLooMom  |  May 3, 2016 at 10:18 pm

    @not sure – I presume that you live in SW neighborhood and would not be a magnet student. This may be your only chance to try STEM. If STEM does not work, you can always go to your neighborhood school.

  • 1230. 136  |  May 4, 2016 at 7:57 am

    Mayer Dad — is Mayer adding another EL1 class?

  • 1231. llmm  |  May 4, 2016 at 8:46 am

    McPherson non-entry year list is moving. Offered 4th grade, waitlist #8.

  • 1232. veteran parent  |  May 4, 2016 at 9:30 am

    1226 – remember that Peirce is currently implementing the PYP IB program and already has the MYP program…. so in a year or so it will be an IB World School…. this program strengthens an integrated way of teaching and supports educators while providing a coordinated, supportive, & progressive educational experience for kids.

    Swift is one of few schools that has an in-school pool and delivers on it’s performing arts mandate.

    As a supporter of Edgewater neighborhood schools… our family chose Peirce but either of your choices are good. GL!

  • 1233. Seneca  |  May 4, 2016 at 9:50 am

    I just declined a Kindergarten offer from Stem. My child was #9 on their tier 1 waiting list.

  • 1234. Seneca  |  May 4, 2016 at 10:19 am

    Post #1228 Not sure what to do.

    Personally, I would choose Stem over Skinner West. I’m not sure if you did the tour at Skinner West, but I did not like the fact that the Kindergarten classes are in a different building that is 2 blocks from the main building (closer to the Target). The main building is newer and modern but is over crowded. The building where the Kindergarten classes are held is old and dark. There was hardly any naturally light. The windows are very small and close to the ceiling, so the children cannot see outside. The hallway is extremely narrow even more so with the cubbies along the walls. This is a shared building with the preschool program. There is nothing on the outside of the building that lets you know that it is part of Skinner West. There is a CPS sign and the building looks like it was some old CPS training facility. It is not very welcoming. The Kindergarten classes walk (weather permitting) or are bused to the main Skinner West building twice a week for their specials classes (art, technology, gym, library). Skinner West has 4 Kindergarten classes. 1 class is a gifted class with kids that tested into Skinner West. These students are on an accelerated curriculum. The other 3 classes are regular classes with kids who live in proximity to the school. But we were told that 2 of the regular Kindergarten classes use the same curriculum as the gifted class.

    I believe you have the option to drop your child off at the main Skinner West building in the morning at a certain time and the children are escorted to the other building. Or you can drop your child off at the other building if it is closer to the start of school.

    At the start of the tour, Skinner West was not very forthcoming about the fact that the Kindergarten classes were in a different building 2 blocks away. Parents were given a tour of the main building and we had to ask to get a tour of the actual Kindergarten facility.

    Hope this helps make your decision a little easier.

  • 1235. Sonny  |  May 4, 2016 at 11:29 am

    On the other hand, STEM has a very difficult administration, high teacher turnover, and the building is too small for the school. It is bursting at the seams. The playground is too small to hold 60 children at once, so the older kids alternate weeks of recess.

    The STEM principal is downright hostile to parental fundraising efforts, and makes disparaging remarks about students and parents at every opportunity. Take a look at the principal’s linked in page and ask yourself what kind of professionalism is exhibited there.

    I know many families who are leaving STEM for greener pastures. I think one year in a less-than-stellar building would be worth it for a well run school.

    I say if you want to try it, do so. Their test scores are great. But Skinner West is much more family (and child) friendly.

  • 1236. Cliff  |  May 4, 2016 at 3:29 pm

    @Swift vs Peirce (and others)

    If your child will be in K, one thing to consider is that Peirce has some incredible veteran kindergarten teachers. Mr. Wanberg is amazing, Ms. Scheller is fantastic too. I’ve heard good things about the others as well. To get a sense of what’s going on their classrooms, check their blogs

    I’ve seen many CPS schools and I’m not sure I’ve seen any more inspired early childhood classrooms than theirs.

  • 1237. jenchicago  |  May 4, 2016 at 8:50 pm

    HydeParkMom–can you say where you were on the Alcott waitlist, and how did they contact you?

  • 1238. TwinMom  |  May 4, 2016 at 9:29 pm

    We declined a spot at Inter-American for prek today. My twins were 1 & 2 on the waitlist.

  • 1239. WesLooMom  |  May 4, 2016 at 10:10 pm

    A different perspective that I heard from a SW parent on SW Kinder in a different bldg: It’s a nice transition for a child who may be overwhelmed by a larger school with students who are older and taller than 5 and 6-year-olds (6th-8th graders, for example).

  • 1240. AnotherCPSParent  |  May 4, 2016 at 10:18 pm

    Can someone comment on CICS-Irving Park? I know they are transitioning to a year-round schedule, and some parents are not fans. Thanks.

  • 1241. zerali  |  May 5, 2016 at 6:15 am

    Suder, wait list 8, Tier 3 (Ukrainian Village 60622) – got the call that we were accepted into Suder’s PK3 FREE full-day Montessori program! Too bad we moved a few weeks to the suburbs…

  • 1242. frannyglass79  |  May 5, 2016 at 9:55 am

    @1127 Mama Tigist: We went through the magnet lottery last year and were waitlisted #129 at Ray – Tier 3 K. We live in Woodlawn. We were offered a seat in late July of last year. We had already accepted a spot at LaSalle II but turned down that one and accepted at Ray because we couldn’t fathom the commute and a 7:45a start time at LaSalle II. All this to say, the wait list does move. We love Ray. The administration and teachers are awesome they have library, art, spanish, music and PE every week. Parental involvement is welcome and vibrant. Our child has 21 students in his K class.

  • 1243. No more, not sure what to do  |  May 5, 2016 at 10:17 am

    We decided to decline STEM offer and stick with SW neighborhood. Thank you for all the comments!!!!

  • 1244. AnotherFutureLasalleParent  |  May 5, 2016 at 11:32 am

    I would second the comments on STEM. We were offered a spot there and declined in favor of a spot at Lasalle. The principal at STEM did not come across as warm or friendly compared to Lasalle – or any of the other schools we toured in the Fall for that matter. The STEM tour felt rushed and the school felt congested.
    We were also wait listed at Burr #54 and CICS-Irving and declined those if that helps anyone.

  • 1245. HydeParkMom  |  May 5, 2016 at 12:47 pm

    We just got an offer for Prescott for 2nd grade…we were #16 on the waitlist. We are currently at Agassiz and have been happy here(although this is our first year here). Any thoughts on switching to Prescott??

  • 1246. Hoping  |  May 5, 2016 at 1:29 pm

    Any movement at Galileo?

  • 1247. mamatigist  |  May 5, 2016 at 1:34 pm

    @1242 Thanks for the big dose of hope re Ray K waitlist! We agree with your assessment as both kids were in their preschool this year. One remains, and we’d rather not have 2 different starts each morning!

  • 1248. HydeParkMom (The Other One!)  |  May 5, 2016 at 2:17 pm


    Why do you want to leave Agassiz?


    I live in Hyde Park as well!

  • 1249. SkinnerWest_or_AndrewJackson???  |  May 5, 2016 at 2:18 pm

    We live in Skinner West neighborhood boundaries, but our son got into Andrew Jackson for kindergarten. Any thoughts on the decision would be appreciated.

  • 1250. ChiMom  |  May 6, 2016 at 9:29 am

    Anyone live in the Belmont Cragin area and can give information about the neighborhood school Schubert? Thanks!

  • 1251. Anxious mom  |  May 6, 2016 at 10:43 am

    We are wait-listed at no 3 (Tier 4). I saw comments about parents whose children r wait-listed receiving calls. We have not received though when I called school they categorically mentioned that they have not started calling anyone yet…..?
    Hopeful for a spot, though anxious about administrative issues.

  • 1252. CPSAppalled  |  May 6, 2016 at 10:53 am

    Well, 4th time’s a charm, I guess. We just got an email last night from Disney II offering my child a spot for 7th grade next year. No phone call. I called the office just now and was told they are not obligated to make phone calls, and confirmed that my email offer was legitimate. We have until Monday to decide. Can any Disney II parents weigh in on the high school? We saw it on a tour two years ago (with older child) and it looks promising. Not sure about the curriculum–are there enough electives for kids who are not AP-bound? Any after-school clubs? What about fine arts/performing arts? Finally: what is the story with Thurgood Marshall Middle School? Is it being phased out of the building?

  • 1253. CPSAppalled  |  May 6, 2016 at 10:55 am

    Sorry. I forgot to mention that we were #7 on the proximity waiting list for Disney II. Previously we had never received a wait list number lower than 200 for three years running.

  • 1254. cpsobsessed  |  May 6, 2016 at 11:09 am

    I’ve never known anyone personally with kids at Jackson. Based on data it looks beautifully diverse and test scores are good.

    But 7:45 am start time. Ouch, that’s a killer. Do you live near the school?

  • 1255. cpsobsessed  |  May 6, 2016 at 11:10 am

    Hm, Skinner west also has a good mix of diversity, but starts at 8:30 am.

  • 1256. SkinnerWest_or_AndrewJackson???  |  May 6, 2016 at 11:22 am

    745 start time is actually a plus in our early-rising house.

  • 1257. cpsobsessed  |  May 6, 2016 at 11:24 am

    @CPSApalled – I can’t comment on the Disney 2 school experience, but I was given the opportunity (back when CPS had big PR budgets) to interview the principal a few years back and found her very impressive.

  • 1258. cpsobsessed  |  May 6, 2016 at 11:25 am

    “745 start time is actually a plus in our early-rising house.”
    Ha, good for you! Luckily the world evens out that way. 🙂

  • 1259. Kenwood Parent  |  May 6, 2016 at 11:45 am

    I have a friend who moved into the Skinner West neighborhood and chose Jackson over Skinner. I assume there was a good reason.

    We were on the tour for Skinner West back in early April. Initially, I was taken aback by the separate Kindergarten building, but now I think it actually works out. My son is 5 1/2, but on the smaller side. Also, it would be a nice transition coming from a school mostly filled with 3-6 year olds (he currently attends Intercultural Montessori).

  • 1260. ChopinparkmommA  |  May 6, 2016 at 3:14 pm

    Anyone have any insight for Thorp on the Northside? Looking at #19 going into 3rd grade.

  • 1261. Bee  |  May 6, 2016 at 3:28 pm


    Both are great schools. This is a nice choice to have.

    Skinner West has overcrowding issues that are likely to get worse with each incoming class due to the popularity of the neighborhood and the school. Andrew Jackson will not have these issues since enrollment numbers are capped given its magnet status. Holding everything else equal, the clear choice to me would be Andrew Jackson.

    Best of luck to you in your decision!

  • 1262. Tornbetweenthetwo  |  May 6, 2016 at 3:53 pm

    Another torn mom here! My husband & I are torn between LaSalle & Andrew Jackson. Any insight would be much appreciated.

  • 1263. Jackson and LaSalle  |  May 6, 2016 at 4:08 pm

    Both Jackson and LaSalle are good options. Go with the school that is closer to home / easiest commute. Longer commutes can become a huge, huge problem, especially when a child gets older and starts to participate in more sports/activities/events at school and then even more so if your family is juggling the schedule of multiple children.

  • 1264. teachermom  |  May 7, 2016 at 11:01 am

    I noticed a poster from a while ago asking about Inter-American. I don’t know much, but I know this much.

    1. We attended preK 4 at IAMS last year for a month. They were unable to fill almost 1/2 their spots in afternoon preK (almost 25% overall). When we left, there were only 12 of 20 seats filled in my sons’s class.

    2. I blame incompetent admin for the mismanagement of the school. I do know the principal left because he was promoted to a Central Office position. (Of course!) I think the future of the school will depend on who they hire to replace him.

  • 1265. WesLooMom  |  May 7, 2016 at 7:39 pm

    SW or Jackson? I’d choose Jackson. But…. My child would comment that Jackson has no playground, just a lot of grass and concrete. Also, I’m not sure about the principal. If I recall correctly, Jackson has a new principal. I also remember a news story about Jackson LSC not getting consensus on choosing a new principal. That story made me question how well the LSC works.

  • 1266. pilsenmom  |  May 8, 2016 at 8:42 pm

    Any Drummond parents that can comment on their current or past experience? I know that they had a new principal within the past two years, right? Thank you!!

  • 1267. Chappell?  |  May 9, 2016 at 3:10 am

    Does anyone know anything about Chappell? We are considering purchasing a home in the neighborhood and will have a kindergartener in a year so looking for any feedback about the school. Thanks so much.

  • 1268. NTA Qs  |  May 9, 2016 at 9:09 am

    Hi all,

    CPS has posted the End of the Year Application Process today:


    in case that is useful for someone. Looks like there are 33 elementary schools on the list.

  • 1269. Elizabeth  |  May 9, 2016 at 10:01 am

    Can someone please share what the difference is between AP classes vs Honors classes especially at a Magnet school? Is there a preference?

  • 1270. Hoping  |  May 9, 2016 at 10:21 am

    How often do people call to check the wait list statuses? I don’t want to be overly annoying. I have only called once, I would just like to know where they are at

  • 1271. LSmom  |  May 9, 2016 at 10:25 am

    @1270, I’ve only made one round of calls and will probably call again in a few weeks.

    Maybe if people are really annoying more schools will put their lists online. I’ve been finding it interesting to follow LaSalle 2’s list, no movement for a few weeks (and some tiers are moving much faster than others).

  • 1272. 2nd Chance Lottery Question  |  May 9, 2016 at 10:28 am

    Does anyone know if there is a way to find out what grades the schools on the 2nd chance lottery list are accepting applications for? I seem to remember that last year someone was able to post the specific grades that some of the schools were asking for applications to fill spots. Thanks!

  • 1273. Hoping  |  May 9, 2016 at 10:32 am

    @1271 Online lists would be AMAZING! I will try again in a few weeks. Thank you

  • 1274. fm  |  May 9, 2016 at 10:51 am

    Could an Ogden family please comment on Karen Valentine? She will be the principal at Edison in the fall.

  • 1275. 2nd Round Mom  |  May 9, 2016 at 11:04 am

    Anyone received calls from Thorp yet???

  • 1276. ChiMom  |  May 9, 2016 at 11:10 am

    Any calls go out for Inter American 3rd grade?

  • 1277. OgdenParent2016  |  May 9, 2016 at 11:11 am

    1274. Ms. Valentine is very well liked at Ogden, and we are sad to see her go. I’m sure she’ll do great at Edison.

  • 1278. ChiMom  |  May 9, 2016 at 11:11 am

    Anyone have information about Palmer School?

  • 1279. Rebecca Wells  |  May 9, 2016 at 11:29 am

    @1278 ChiMom…

    We were offered a seat at Palmer and didn’t know anything about it (other than it is close-ish to our home). My husband toured and he was VERY impressed. Thorp O is the top of our list, and he came away from the tour liking Palmer as much, if not more, than Thorp.

    I reached out to a couple of parents and they had nothing but wonderful things to say about the school. The principal, Mr. Ray, has pretty much turned the school around in the 3 years he’s been there and they are on track to be a Level 1+ school. Mr. Ray was friendly and open and willing to answer our questions. They have a comprehensive gifted program and some great extra-curriculars. We accepted the seat, and will re-evaluate if/when Thorp calls (we’re #10 on that list).

  • 1280. BSP in OIP  |  May 9, 2016 at 12:02 pm

    @1275. 2nd Round Mom – Called Thorp (again) last friday – they still did not start calling. I assume this might be the week they do – but I would think it would be later in the week.

  • 1281. Always More Questions  |  May 9, 2016 at 12:13 pm

    BSP in OIP, your updates about Thorp’s status are so helpful.
    Thank you for reporting back to the group!

  • 1282. Newcomer  |  May 9, 2016 at 12:23 pm

    Honors classes are more advanced than the regular stream. AP classes are also advanced, entail more work than Honors, and there is the expectation that students will take the AP test in that subject in May. Some
    schools offer Regular, Honors, and AP. Some schools only offer Honors and AP. If there is an AP test your child wants to take but the AP class is not offered at his school, there is also self-study. I hope that helps!

  • 1283. Hoping  |  May 9, 2016 at 12:28 pm

    @LSmom I went on LaSalle II website to view how their list is moving, i noticed there are no “GENERAL” wait list openings. Is that common? We are wait listed #1 at Galileo, 3rd Grade

  • 1284. 2nd Round Mom  |  May 9, 2016 at 12:37 pm

    BSP in OIP
    Thanks for the info!!

  • 1285. BSP in OIP  |  May 9, 2016 at 12:52 pm

    @ 1281. Always More Questions & 1284. 2nd Round Mom..

    no problem at all…. I feel bad calling them but CPS could eailsy come up with a way to share this info online…

    I understand it changes frequently – but even a daily/weekly update on where the schools are on the waitlists would be helpful.

    Good luck as I hope to see some info on calls soon and please post your numbers on the list if you are lucky enough to get a call.

  • 1286. CPSAppalled  |  May 9, 2016 at 1:17 pm


    I would also add that AP classes are supposed to be taught at a college level, and have the same workload (much more time per week than Honors). My daughter’s AP Psych class at Jones this year was actually much more comprehensive than my college level Psych 101 class, many moons ago. There is an exam in May for AP classes; if you do well enough (4/5 or 5/5) and pay the fee, you supposedly get college credit. I have only heard recently that IL state schools would accept AP credit if the student got a 3/5 on the AP exam. Hope that helps.

  • 1287. ObsessedNewbie  |  May 9, 2016 at 1:20 pm

    Has anyone ever received a call from a school which was listed as unknown on the caller ID?

  • 1288. Changers  |  May 9, 2016 at 2:29 pm

    Just got a call from LaSalle, My daughter got a spot for K! Soooooo happy and accepted right away. We are #3 at tier 3.

  • 1289. Seneca  |  May 9, 2016 at 2:36 pm

    #1287 ObsessedNewbie

    The schools phone number should come up on the caller ID. The nomenclature for the CPS phone numbers is 773-534. Someone early on in this blog suggested creating a contact in your phone for each of the school you are hoping to receive a call from. This way you know exactly who is calling you.

  • 1290. StartingKforFall17  |  May 9, 2016 at 2:51 pm

    Thank you to poster #1268 for the End of Year Application process. I noticed Murphy on the list and my son is wait-listed in the 100s there…does this mean I should still hope for a call?

  • 1291. AnotherCPSParent  |  May 9, 2016 at 4:10 pm

    I think you have a shot at Murphy. It seems to be a good school, but it doesn’t have the “name” that other schools have. The community seems very supportive, and we liked the principal a great deal on our tour.

  • 1292. AnotherLasalleOffer  |  May 9, 2016 at 4:26 pm

    Congrats! We received a call too. So thrilled. Did they explain the next step to you (registration process)? They only told us to expect an email later in the week.

  • 1293. harry potter  |  May 9, 2016 at 4:39 pm


    Oh, CPSobsessed, please, please, please do a thread about this!!! I am so glad that someone finally caught CPS lying and cheating!

  • 1294. mamatigist  |  May 9, 2016 at 6:04 pm

    I read the article and will indeed spread the word. The causation element of recruitment and resulting lower results is revolting and worthy of discussions at every level. Has a lot to say about our choices for applying and accepting schools.

  • 1295. Changers  |  May 9, 2016 at 7:28 pm

    Congrats to you too! I was told the same, just wait for email.

  • 1296. NTA Qs  |  May 9, 2016 at 9:54 pm

    @1290: I think that it may depend on grade level, but if I were you, I would call Murphy and/or CPS OAE for clarification.

    @1272: I seem to remember that information last year as well. In my memory, it was directly on the application (e.g., it said something like “Murphy, 1st, 2nd, and 3rd grade”), but I find I can’t count on my memory anymore.

  • 1297. ObsessedNewbie  |  May 10, 2016 at 7:28 am

    Thanks @Seneca. I didn’t think it should be an unknown number but this whole process has me nervous and paranoid and answering every single phone call. So when I missed an unknown call I panicked.

  • 1298. PPark  |  May 10, 2016 at 11:39 am

    Any insight on Audubon wl#19 going to a 3rd grade. Thank you in advance.

  • 1299. Heather Simpson  |  May 10, 2016 at 12:41 pm

    FutureLasalleParent-Did you get accepted off the wait list Tier I for kindergarten at Lasalle I in Old Town or Lasalle II?

  • 1300. question  |  May 10, 2016 at 12:41 pm

    should i take an offer to hawthorne or am i better moving to the suburbs?

  • 1301. Apmommy  |  May 10, 2016 at 1:09 pm

    Hi all
    Just received offer for Murray, anyone with insight on this school?


  • 1302. Lasalle I  |  May 10, 2016 at 1:10 pm

    All of these Lasalle offers from wait lists-Is it Lasalle I or Lasalle II. Just asking because I called Lasalle I today and they made it sound like they have not had hardly any movement on their wait lists.

  • 1303. @1300  |  May 10, 2016 at 1:18 pm

    you should should give Hawthorne a try, the suburbs will always be there if you don’t like it.

  • 1304. Drida  |  May 10, 2016 at 1:33 pm

    Unless you’re set on moving to the suburbs, do accept the Hawthorne offer. My son in there in K and now we need a bigger house but don’t want to move to the suburbs BECAUSE we want to stay at Hawthorne. Love that school.

  • 1305. Changers  |  May 10, 2016 at 1:35 pm

    We accepted a K spot from LaSalle yesterday. It was LaSalle I @1734 N Orleans St, We were #3 on tier 3. So yes, there haven’t been much movement.

  • 1306. Selena King  |  May 10, 2016 at 1:35 pm

    @Apmommy – Everyone I know loves it. I know someone that was having a hard time choosing between Murray and McDade. I did the tour and loved it myself.

    What number and what tier on waitlist? We are on the waitlist as well.

  • 1307. apmommy  |  May 10, 2016 at 2:24 pm

    @ Selena King. Tier 4 WL# 13.

    Thank you for your response. are there any problems with discipline in the upper classes, someone mentioned some unruly behavior among the older kids, any thoughts about that?

  • 1308. apmommy  |  May 10, 2016 at 2:24 pm

    also grade K

  • 1309. Selena King  |  May 10, 2016 at 2:28 pm

    Aw ok we are #23 in that same tier for them. I have not heard that , they said that these lose a lot of the upper level to Academic Centers at 7th grade . The owner of my daughter’s daycare is the AP there now and I have heard nothing but good things and they have a strong parent group and a few afterschool option close by.

  • 1310. cpsobsessed  |  May 10, 2016 at 2:44 pm

    @1300 – if you like the city, I’d give Hawthorne a try before leaving.

  • 1311. FingersCrossed&HoldingMyBreath  |  May 10, 2016 at 3:06 pm

    Called Drummond Montessori to inquire about the wait list for first grade and was told they are pretty much at capacity. Bummer! I was told there was only 1 spot left and they just offered it yesterday (#5 on the list) so hope this helps for anyone else who is waiting for this school.

  • 1312. WestSideMama  |  May 10, 2016 at 3:22 pm

    Just received an offer for K from Columbus Elementary (in Ukranian Village). We were #44/general waitlist. We will decline, if anyone is waiting on that one.

  • 1313. MurrayMom  |  May 10, 2016 at 4:20 pm

    @apmommy We’ve been there for 2 years now. Every school will have its challenges but I do like the culture there. I recently declined a SEES school for my youngest going into K. I’m not aware of any unusual discipline issues. I will say that the staff is very engaged with the concerns of parents and how it impacts the classrooms.

  • 1314. Apmommy  |  May 10, 2016 at 5:35 pm

    @ murraymom and Selena king
    Thanks for the insight we will accept the offer !

  • 1315. Tonya Tucker  |  May 10, 2016 at 8:09 pm

    @trob – we accepted our offer to Lenart today (tier 4). Was hoping for NTA logistically but cannot risk losing Lenart and not getting NTA.

  • 1316. llmm  |  May 10, 2016 at 8:26 pm

    A couple more moving Kindergarten lists:

    We were offered McPherson via email (waitlist 18) and Chappell via phone (waitlist 58).

    Sticking with original choice.

  • 1317. ChiMom  |  May 11, 2016 at 7:12 am

    @1279 Rebecca Wells Thank you!

  • 1318. Movingwaitlists?  |  May 11, 2016 at 8:48 am

    Has anyone heard from Agassiz or Disney I (prox)? We’ve heard from Chappel, Greeley, Jahn for K.

  • 1319. HydeParkMom  |  May 11, 2016 at 9:56 am

    “” @Apmommy
    We live in the Hyde Park area and it is a fantastic school. They are a citywide magnet school with focus on fine arts. The only drawback that I have heard is diversity is limited in the older grades.

  • 1320. HydeParkMom  |  May 11, 2016 at 10:05 am


    We currently have our oldest attending Agassiz for kindergarten and we love it there! Last year we were number #178 and received an email in The beginning of August. Their lists does move so be on the lookout and good luck to you!

  • 1321. Mom60641  |  May 11, 2016 at 10:13 am

    We were 31 on the waitlist for Agassiz and we just declined the offer this morning! So that’s where that is.

  • 1322. Movingwaitlists?  |  May 11, 2016 at 10:39 am

    @Mom60641 – your comment made my day. Thanks for taking the time to respond. Sounds like we should get an offer soon. Can I ask why you declined?

    @HydeParkMom – So happy to hear you love it. I wasn’t worried about getting a spot until I called last week and they said that they called through #12 and had 6 spots left. Which I thought was crazy low for a school that had previously made it past 150. But I suppose it is still early. Is dropoff a mess in the morning? We will probably commute by el but would like the option of driving.

  • 1323. Bomie  |  May 11, 2016 at 10:48 am

    Just spoke to Oscar Mayer for Pre-K 3.

    Since more Kindergarten neighborhood kids showed up for registration yesterday, this will limit the amount of 3yo and 4yo students they will accept.

    They’ve called a couple students off the proximity waitlist, but are most likely not going to get to the tiers waitlist.

    Still holding out hope that my tier3 #1 spot will come up at some point in the school year!

  • 1324. Mom60641  |  May 11, 2016 at 11:17 am


    We declined because we decided on Pritzker FA in the initial round –
    it’s a lot closer to our home and fits in really well with our schedule. It also coordinates well with the beginning/ending times of the other school our kids attend. Basically, we declined to preserve our sanity. 😉

  • 1325. Rebecca Wells  |  May 11, 2016 at 11:47 am

    Goethe is calling way down the list. I just declined a K seat – we were #83 on the list.

  • 1326. CPSAppalled  |  May 11, 2016 at 2:01 pm

    @harry potter–thank you for providing this article. It is good to finally see the statistics that have been gossiped about for years. It is frightening how the charter school wave is about to take down the ship of CPS, and no one wants to talk about the facts. Absolutely this trend will do nothing but increase achievement gaps between racial groups/economic groups. Shame on Rahm.

  • 1327. HydeParkMom  |  May 11, 2016 at 3:49 pm


    Last year, a lot of spots opened up because Agassiz changed their start time to 7:45am. Drop off is actually really smooth. There is a carpool lane on the the left hand side of the street that goes around the schools. The parents then get out and go to their designated playground side for grades. In the morning grades line up and in the afternoon, each grade is dismissed individually by grade from Kinder to 8th. For the first week, You are allowed to walk your child up to their classroom and preK always gets walked in and out of the building.

  • 1328. Jaysmom  |  May 11, 2016 at 7:52 pm

    @ Bomie you make it sound as if they must exhaust the proximity list before they make it to the tier waitlist. That is not my understanding of the process.

  • 1329. Julia  |  May 11, 2016 at 9:09 pm

    We got calls from Chappell and Greeley today, waitlisted at 36 and 74, respectively. Seriously considering Chappell over Newberry, based on commute and the fact that the test scores are comparable and the culture/climate surveys put Chappell much higher. I’ve read the comments on Chappell and Newberry and it seems like there are happy families at both. Very torn!

  • 1330. Bomie  |  May 11, 2016 at 9:47 pm

    @Jaysmom – This is my first time navigating all of this, so I may be completely wrong. What was your understanding of the process?

    I based it off the Oscar Mayer website (http://mayermagnet.org/about/admissions/) and the conversation I had this morning with the front office, but I did not specifically ask if the attendance area and sibling lists must be exhausted before going to the tier lists.

    Does anyone else have experience with the Pre-K tiered waiting list to share some insight?

  • 1331. LSmom  |  May 11, 2016 at 9:52 pm

    @Bomie, Oscar Mayer is a neighborhood school from K-8, so they do exhaust the proximity list for PK3 and PK4 before moving to the tier lists. I think it’s the only CPS school in that position, the other two CPS Montessori schools are magnet from PK3-8, so they follow usual CPS magnet procedure (filling spots by tier or proximity).

  • 1332. Jaysmom  |  May 11, 2016 at 10:53 pm

    Thanks for the clarification @ LS. So the proximity list is not exhausted first for regular magnet programs?

  • 1333. HydeMom  |  May 12, 2016 at 6:01 am


    Oscar Mayer is considered a Magnet Cluster program due to its neighborhood enrollment component. A certain percentage is pulled from sibling lottery, then proximity (within a 1.5 mile radius), then tiers. You only get called off the waitlist based on which category which you are wait listed for.

    As stated in the cpsoae.org website regarding the selection process: “magnet schools, magnet cluster schools, and open enrollment schools, the first seats are offered to applicants who are siblings of students who are currently enrolled, and who will be still enrolled, in the school in the 2015-2016 school year. (If more siblings apply than there are seats available, a computerized sibling lottery will be conducted to ll the available spaces.) Sibling preference will only be given if the application indicates that the student is applying as a sibling and this information has been veried.

    After the siblings are accommodated, the next 40% of the available seats in magnet schools are designated for students who live within the school’s proximity (a 1.5 mile radius of the school).

    After the proximity students are accommodated, the remaining seats are distributed evenly among the four tiers, and the seats are compiled by computerized lottery. (Note that the distribution of seats among the four tiers and the proximity applies to the entry-grade level only – for most elementary schools, the entry-grade level is kindergarten. In the three Montessori magnet schools, the entry-grade level is the PreK-3 level, and in Inter-American Magnet School, the entry-grade level is the PreK-4 level.) There is no proximity or tier consideration for non-entry grades in magnet schools, or in elementary magnet cluster schools and open enrollment schools at any grade level. In addition, proximity lotteries are not conducted for magnet schools that have an attendance boundary, or for magnet schools where at least 50% of the students reside in the neighborhood and at least 50% are of a single racial/ethnic group.

  • 1334. LSmom  |  May 12, 2016 at 8:32 am

    @Jaysmom, for regular magnet programs, spots are filled by tier/proximity, so if someone from the Tier 2 list declines a spot, they’ll call the next person on the Tier 2 list, and if someone from the proximity list turns down a spot, they call the next person on the proximity list.

  • 1336. Amanda  |  May 12, 2016 at 10:47 am

    We were 44 for Disney I tier 4 and just accepted. Gave up a Kinder spot at McPherson and passed Agassiz this week (27).

  • 1337. 2nd Round Mom  |  May 12, 2016 at 12:04 pm

    Just accepted Kindergarten for Thorp!!! Sooooo excited!!!
    proximty 3

    Good luck to all!!!

  • 1338. BSP in OIP  |  May 12, 2016 at 12:18 pm

    Congrats 2nd round mom….. waiting on a call for the t3 list…. im pretty far at #13 and think there are only 4 total spots for t3. only need 9 people to decline (looking at this as glass 1/2 full!).

  • 1339. Rebecca Wells  |  May 12, 2016 at 1:49 pm

    Congrats @2nd Round Mom! We’re #10…fingers crossed for a call soon…maybe!

    @BSP in OIP…how do you know there are only 4 spots open for tier 3?

  • 1340. cpsteacherandmom  |  May 12, 2016 at 1:49 pm

    2nd round mom, I have a thorp kindergartener and we LOVE the school. Welcome!

  • 1341. BSP in OIP  |  May 12, 2016 at 1:59 pm

    @1339… My wife called and ask them – I forgot the persons name ( I think its Debbie) how many spots were open in our T. Not sure if they are supposed to give that info out…. but she said 4 total for T3.

    Cant hurt to call/Ask if you are in a diff t or proximity.

  • 1342. mom  |  May 12, 2016 at 3:01 pm

    @1329. Julia

    “We got calls from Chappell and Greeley today, waitlisted at 36 and 74, respectively.”


    This is interesting. We’re #64 on the Greeley general waitlist and we never received a call. It’s of no consequence, as we already accepted another offer, but it concerns me for other people waiting for phone calls, etc

  • 1343. Julia  |  May 12, 2016 at 3:12 pm

    I’m sorry! I had it backwards. We were in the 30’s for Greeley and the 70’s for Chappell.

  • 1344. mom  |  May 12, 2016 at 3:25 pm

    Ha! Got it. Thanks for clarifying!

  • 1345. HydeParkMom  |  May 12, 2016 at 4:44 pm


    I believe that I was in the 20s for Alcott.

  • 1346. MurrayMom  |  May 13, 2016 at 7:59 am

    @apmommy Welcome to Murray! Please join the Facebook page.

  • 1347. Julia  |  May 13, 2016 at 11:47 am

    Well, we just turned down Greeley (36 general) and Chappell (74 general) to stay with Newberry for K for our daughter. It was a hard decision because Chappell seemed like a community we would love to be part of, but it offered no differentiation in math (at least for K). Newberry’s opportunities for differentiated math means our daughter won’t have to do K math all over again. It was still a very hard decision- Chappell looked like a really great place and it’s a lot closer to home than Newberry.

  • 1348. Emily  |  May 13, 2016 at 12:35 pm

    Any prospective Kellogg-ers, feel free to come to our family-friendly fundraiser tomorrow! It’ll be a good place to meet families, teachers, and administrators, and to get a feel for the community. Info on Facebook.com/FriendsOfKellogg.

  • 1349. Apmommy  |  May 13, 2016 at 4:04 pm

    Thanks for the welcome! What is the name of fb page for Murray?

  • 1350. Hoping  |  May 13, 2016 at 4:06 pm

    Received a call yesterday for Columbus wait list #7 General 3rd Grade

  • 1351. Tammy Evans  |  May 13, 2016 at 8:15 pm

    Can someone who has a child in the 4th or in a higher grade at NEWBERRY please share their experience about the school? Is the principle approachable? Any good or bad experiences with teachers and STAFF? Please share your insight would really be appreciated.

  • 1352. MurrayMom  |  May 13, 2016 at 11:21 pm

    @apmommy Murray Language Academy PTO

  • 1353. apmom  |  May 14, 2016 at 3:45 pm

    Just got an offer from Agassiz (we were in the high 30s). I saw a few people on the post passed on it. Any particular reason? I read the previous posts about it, but am hoping others might have more insights before we make our decision. Given that it’s our only offer thus far, we are leaning towards accepting.

  • 1354. Boxingmom  |  May 14, 2016 at 4:17 pm

    We accepted an offer from Lasalle I
    #1 tier 2

    Were you on the general list? I’m curious because my friend’s son was #30 for Agassiz and she hasn’t received a call. (General list)

  • 1355. Aggie  |  May 15, 2016 at 5:23 am

    We had a terrible experience at Agassiz. The Principal is a nut. We left and went to another school and she had the time, energy and vindictiveness to call my new school and tell them I was a nut. After the new school got to know me, they told me this and was waiting for me to be a nut and I never was. My son had a physical disability and she treated us pretty bad. If you have a “normal” kid, you will probably not have any interactions with the Principal, and you will probably be fine. Also, the school is old and seems dirty. They set up tables in the hall for lunch because no lunch room. The only positive experience I had was I learned that you must tour schools and talk to principals. I did tour Agassiz and I knew it wasn’t great and I didn’t listen to my instincts.

  • 1356. apmom  |  May 15, 2016 at 8:55 am

    Wow, @Aggie, that is pretty concerning. Thanks for sharing. Any other insights? @Boxingmom, I was on the general list. I got an email- no phone call. Not sure what might have happened there. We got it Friday and have to respond by Monday afternoon.

  • 1357. Aggie  |  May 15, 2016 at 9:37 am

    The other thing to consider is Agassiz’ foreign language is Arabic. I have no problem with Arabic and realize that much of the world speaks Arabic. But not countries close to the US, so I prefer Spanish or French. Plus sometimes classes with completely different alphabets ( mandarin too)turns out to be really more of an art class, like calligraphy. Now he has Spanish and he practices all around Chicago saying hola, counting, etc.

  • 1358. mamatigist  |  May 15, 2016 at 10:02 am

    @aggie 1357 Just an anecdote regarding your opinion about Arabic. I grew up in a village in Minnesota, graduated from a small college with knowledge but not fluency in German and Spanish, and in 1965 my first assignment in the Foreign Service was Kuwait. With our current global communication, you will never know what your child may face!!!

  • 1359. Aggie  |  May 15, 2016 at 1:07 pm

    Yes there are always exceptions. However, I’m sure you were the only person from your village that moved to Kuwait. Also, I’m sure you were required to learn Arabic, and did so. I just think there are better uses for my child’s time then to learn a language used mainly around the other side of the world. I also think he could be in a position someday that he may need to fight off a grizzly bear. But I don’t want him to use his school time to learn that in the off chance that he comes face to face with a bear.

  • 1360. Life skills fan  |  May 15, 2016 at 2:17 pm

    I would be the first one in line for a school that taught kids how to fight off a grizzly bear!
    Btw, my kids went to a school in another country (before we moved to chicago) and each student had to go on a weeklong kayaking trip. Who would have thought, but those skills came in very handy when a few months later they capsized while in Laos, and they knew how to scramble right back onto the Kayak while my husband floundered in freezing cold water.

  • 1361. Life skills fan  |  May 15, 2016 at 2:50 pm

    Moreover, I would say that nowadays Arabic is the smartest language to learn if one is at all interested in a career in government, business development, entrepreneurship, pharmaceuticals, intelligence, trade, aviation, marketing, hospitality, or social work. Or just basic global understanding and peace brokerage.

  • 1362. Aggie  |  May 15, 2016 at 3:05 pm

    Great kayaking skills they must have learned since they capsized. Looks like they will need a refresher course. I’ll make a deal with you: you teach your kids to fight Grizzlies and Arabic and I’ll teach mine French and Math. Win-win. 🙂

  • 1363. Life skills fan  |  May 15, 2016 at 6:03 pm

    Oh, Aggie, you silly goose. I don’t actually think I would like to make a deal with someone who would make fun of a child’s athletic skills. Good luck with the French (my kids are already fluent) and don’t be shy if you have any questions about math!

  • 1364. Aggie  |  May 15, 2016 at 6:14 pm

    I wasn’t making fun of your child’s athletic skills, but about the quality of instruction they received. You need to vet these schools better. You indicated that Arabic is the smartest language to learn, yet your children are fluent in French? Your story has more holes in it then that kayak. Ferme le Bouche, tête de merde. Have your kids translate.

  • 1365. Life skills fan  |  May 15, 2016 at 6:53 pm

    Aggie dear, thank you so much for your recommendation!! Although if I wanted to waste my kids’ time on your puerile comments, they would surely point out that “bouche” is feminine, not masculine as you wrote (oopsies!), and that off-color insults sound better when you use actual French expressions instead of haphazardly translating directly from English. Keep trying!! But do it privately as I don’t think you have anything truly useful to contribute to this forum, and cpsobsessed and co. deserve better. Have a great night!

  • 1366. arewestillinhighschool  |  May 15, 2016 at 7:04 pm

    Someone needs to get a hobby. Clearly.

  • 1367. apmom  |  May 15, 2016 at 8:27 pm

    Oh, boy, that went off on some weird tangents. Any other insights about Agassiz from other parents? The Arabic doesn’t bother me in the least, especially since I live in Albany Park, but I suppose some might find that a factor to consider. Parent involvement? Communication from administration? General impressions regarding conduct or discipline?

  • 1368. lizroman08@yahoo.com  |  May 15, 2016 at 8:37 pm

    oh ok! can I ask if it’s for kindergarten or a different grade?

  • 1369. apmom  |  May 15, 2016 at 8:41 pm


  • 1370. lizroman08@yahoo.com  |  May 15, 2016 at 8:56 pm

    hmm so weird! but thanks for responding

  • 1371. HydeParkMom  |  May 15, 2016 at 9:28 pm


    You’ve probably seen me on the boards a couple of times but coming from a neutral a school experience is what you make it. Yes the children do learn Arabic from K-5 and then have the choice of either studying Spanish or Arabic for middle school. Their specials along with language are dance and music along with kindergarten having 2 recesses everyday.

    There is a huge parental involvement and parents have a lot of options with being involved with the school. (i.e. room parent, art co-op facilitator, sports coach, coordinating reading/math groups, chaperoning on field trips, assisting in classrooms for special events, popcorn day, the list is endless.) The LSC & Friends of members are also very welcoming and was very receptive to me and my family when we first came to the school this past year.

    In regards to communication “Tuesday Folders” are sent home every week, along with weekly email blasts and an updated Facebook page.

    The strategies that they use is a color style and a point system. It seems to be working effectively. There is also a no tolerance policy in regards to bullying.

  • 1372. Angelica Gamboa  |  May 16, 2016 at 12:41 pm

    Do neighborhood school principals have any discretion about seats like the SEHSs?

  • 1373. JD  |  May 16, 2016 at 12:51 pm

    Have a 6th grader at Skinner West, which has been great, but we got an offer for 7th grade at Disney II which is much closer to our house in Jefferson Park. Please help… we are agonizing over this decision.

  • 1374. EverPatient  |  May 16, 2016 at 1:15 pm

    @1373/JD: With only 2 years left at Skinner West, do you think your child would transition well? If Skinner West is working out for you, even if the commute is horrible, it still may be easier than transitioning into an unknown school. That said, Disney II does have a guaranteed High School, so that is certainly a factor to consider. I don’t think I’ve helped…it’s never easy!

  • 1375. JD  |  May 16, 2016 at 1:25 pm

    @EverPatient… You’re no help at all! 🙂 Only kidding. This is a tough one. You’d think the HS would help, but we’ve heard that the quality at Disney II drops off dramatically right now as most of the kids flee to SEHS. Ugh.

  • 1376. CPSAppalled  |  May 16, 2016 at 1:58 pm

    We just accepted an offer for 7th grade at Disney II and I have to say that I keep hearing more and more positive things from other parents. Just yesterday a friend told me that two years ago a large group of kids from Decatur moved to Disney II for 7th grade, planning to just stay two years and then move on to SEHS. Half of those kids decided to stay at D2 for high school, which to me speaks volumes about the quality of the school. I was impressed when I registered my child last week with the innovative approach to high school. They are ever expanding their course offerings and activities. The building could use some improving, but I imagine that will get better with time. Having lived through the High School Application Hell two years ago with my older child, there was almost no question at all that we would accept the spot and be relieved of that particular hell this time around. Thank God the younger child decided to get on board! Good luck with your decision; it is almost never easy or clearcut. A shorter commute is also tops in my book.

  • 1377. JD  |  May 16, 2016 at 2:21 pm

    Thanks @CPSAppalled! We toured it as well and came away with positive feelings, but are afraid of a rough transition. Our guy has been at Skinner West since K, so we know what we have there. He has a tough time fitting in already so we’re apprehensive.

  • 1378. LaSalle243rdgrade  |  May 16, 2016 at 2:51 pm

    Just accepted at LaSalle 2 for 3rd grade.
    Any LaSalle 2 parents on here? Everyone like the principal, teachers, staff and parents?
    Do they have food after school programs? Any basketball, soccer or other sports, I know they don’t have a large gym so wondering if they do anything after school w maybe a park district near by.

  • 1379. WeacceptedAgassiz  |  May 17, 2016 at 1:35 pm

    We accepted at Agassiz for Kindergarten and are super excited! I personally love the Arabic. I don’t expect that my child will pick up more than a handful of words, but to be exposed to the culture is important to me. I saw the musical Annie at Agassiz recently and almost cried when the 8th graders gave a little speech afterwards about how much they loved the music & drama programs. It just feels right for my child. I also think the test scores are good (especially when diving into non-IEP’s, younger grades, etc). I love the focus on the whole child – not just academics. The diversity is unique and seems to be handled well. The after school 1 hour classes look wonderful – my daughter would love many of them. Good luck with your decision.

  • 1380. WeacceptedAgassiz  |  May 17, 2016 at 1:39 pm

    Oh! And sorry for not responding in time for you to make the deadline. Would love to hear back if you accepted.

  • 1381. LaSalle2 feedback  |  May 17, 2016 at 1:55 pm

    Both 3rd grade teachers are very good, well respected, and liked. If you get either, it’s a win. We have found most of the teachers to be caring and good teachers but like any school you may find that your child responds better to some more than others. I believe this is likely true at most schools. The principal is very good and well regarded by parents. There is both JCC aftercare at school and park district aftercare at a nearby park. The park group walks over with adult chaperones after school. There are some very nice after school enrichment options such as yoga, cooking, Mad Science, Tae Kwon Do, track, LaCrosse and more. The options offered may change each sign-up session. School team sports start in 5th grade. There is soccer, basketball and track. The school also has Girls on the Run. That might begin in 3rd. There is the option to enroll in the after school band program beginning in 4th grade. Students may be invited to join the Chicago Children’s Choir program (audition) starting in 3rd grade.

  • 1382. AK  |  May 17, 2016 at 2:11 pm

    Just declined a K spot at Chappell; we were #80 on the general wait list.

  • 1383. 7th grade waiting list  |  May 17, 2016 at 2:27 pm

    My daughter is in the waiting list at 3 schools (#15, #24 & #42) for 7th grade. I called the schools and they have not called anyone from the waiting list and “will only call if needed”. Since it’s 7th grade and I know students do transfer out from those schools to academic centers, I don’t understand why they have not called anyone from the waiting list. Does anyone know if kids in 7th grade usually get called later in the summer? I’m very dissatisfied with my daughter’s current school and would like to know if there’s hope for her. The schools she was placed in the waiting list for are Andrew Jackson, Galileo & Sheridan. Please help!

  • 1384. Chicago School GPS  |  May 17, 2016 at 2:39 pm

    7th grade is increasingly seeing more movement throughout the summer and into the start of the school year as families debate moving their children to Academic Centers or not. Oftentimes families don’t tell their current school of their decision until the end of the school year so I suspect you may hear from at least one of your schools late in the summer. The selective enrollment (Classical & RGC) schools have larger numbers of their student body test and possibly leave for Academic Centers so there is usually more movement on those waitlists for 7th grade.

  • 1385. Aville  |  May 17, 2016 at 5:14 pm

    Can anyone comment on Stone vs. Peirce (for K)? Scores are higher at Stone, but the class sizes are so large. Peirce seems to have some good momentum and it’s closer to home.

  • 1386. soon to be CPS Mom  |  May 17, 2016 at 5:20 pm

    how big are the Stone K classes? thx!

  • 1387. Aville  |  May 17, 2016 at 5:24 pm

    I believe the average is 31.

  • 1388. @Chicago School GPS  |  May 17, 2016 at 5:37 pm

    I think I am misinterpreting what you are saying at your post #1384. The 6th graders leaving for ACs MUST let their current school know so that they can be “projected” to the AC. ACs need this information so they know if they need to hold a second round. However, I do agree with you that 7th grade seats at some of the most sought after magnet schools continues throughout the summer. I received many calls from my magnet selections which were my safety net if my son did not get into the AC. It broke my heart to turn some of the schools down because our first choice was the AC. I am not sure many parents would give up an AC seat to go to a magnet though. Perhaps, if the AC was a “hike” from home then maybe I guess someone would. Maybe your post is saying the same thing I am saying in mine just in a different way.

  • 1389. @1383  |  May 17, 2016 at 5:41 pm

    I remember Jackson & Sheridan both called me sometime in July. I can’t remember my son’s wait list numbers because he is 8th grade. I do remember thinking wow he was offered a seat at Franklin which was too far and judging by the wait list numbers we will never get a call. The magnet letter came first, then the AC letter. I was so relieved he was accepted into the AC. However, I was astounded by the number of calls from magnets that I was receiving in July. I believe about 5 schools called me.

  • 1390. Melissa  |  May 17, 2016 at 5:50 pm

    Accepted a spot for kindergarten at Jahn. Our next lowest wait list number is in the 180’s for Agassiz. Any insight on either school would be appreciated.

  • 1391. Chicago School GPS  |  May 17, 2016 at 5:53 pm

    @1388- I think we are saying similar things. I was alluding to the fact that students accept an AC spot directly with the AC but don’t necessarily let their elementary school know that they are leaving until summer. Hence, elementary schools don’t know if a student is leaving until it is told by the family and some families delay their reporting. At least this was what happened in the recent past. One would have thought the records would be linked to automatically report when a student registered at another school but apparently it wasn’t as automatic as that.

  • 1392. Kasha  |  May 17, 2016 at 5:57 pm

    Anyone know about Turner-drew academy?

  • 1393. apmom  |  May 17, 2016 at 9:24 pm

    Thanks to @WeacceptedAgassiz and @HydeParkMom! We did accept the offer and are feeling pretty good about the option…other than the whole doomsday scenario playing out amidst the budget crisis. If things stay as they are, class sizes will be outrageous and programs slashed, making even staunch public education supporters like me take a second look at private school…which of course will worsen CPS’ financial outlook even more. Deep breaths…

  • 1394. Anna  |  May 17, 2016 at 10:49 pm

    We’re on the wait list for Chappell @ 164 and haven’t been called but I saw that Chappell is listed in the “End‐of‐Year Citywide Options Program”. Can someone provide some insight on how this works?

  • 1395. cpsobsessed  |  May 17, 2016 at 10:59 pm

    Are you on the Chappell kindergarten wait list?

  • 1396. 3isacharm  |  May 18, 2016 at 8:41 am

    Beverly parents cps 20 for 20 at 6pm tonight. At Mt. Greenwood Elementary.

  • 1397. 7th grade waiting list  |  May 18, 2016 at 8:57 am

    @1384, 1388 & 1389

    Thank you for your comments, they give me hope! I guess I will just have to keep on waiting and hope for a call.