2015 SEES GIFTED and CLASSICAL Elem Thread

March 19, 2015 at 8:34 am 1,345 comments


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  • 1. cpsobsessed  |  March 19, 2015 at 8:38 am

    All right, you obsessors. The threads are up, so feel free to start sharing your angst.

    A gentle reminder that for most families in CPS, it all works out somehow that their kid’s end up in a school that feels like a good fit and meets their kids needs. It may not happen this round, or even this year, but people leave the city, spots open up, things change. The news you get this week isn’t necessarily the be-all end-all of your child’s CPS experience. So hang in there.

  • 2. grace  |  March 19, 2015 at 8:41 am

    Good luck to you all! It never worked out for us so we moved to the burbs to avoid all the drama, but i remember it well and wish you all luck!!

  • 3. sparklesvira  |  March 19, 2015 at 8:48 am

    Good Luck Everyone! I cannot wait to hear the results – good or bad…..I cannot thank CPSObsessed enough for the millions of threads of sanity that it has provided through this process. I have never felt less alone in my life, for what I feel is probably one of the biggest challenges in my life – to give my son a good education!

  • 4. Chicago School GPS  |  March 19, 2015 at 9:12 am

    Good luck! And as CPSO said, it actually is a long process that stretches into summer, so don’t despair with that first round letter because frankly, there just aren’t that many SEES seats to go around (typically one class of 28-30 kids per school), but that doesn’t mean there aren’t a lot of great school options.

    Check out our CSG Calendar on our website for some open house dates because these schools do give an opportunity for families to tour before acceptances are due on 4/14. Spring break is 4/3-4/10, so a lot of tours are crammed in the next two weeks.

    If you are wondering “What’s Next? Decisions After Notifications”, then join us on March 26 @ 6:30PM. RSVP at http://www.chischoolgps.com/CSG_ES_What_s_Next_.html
    We can help you make sense of it all including what to do if you have no offers, offers from schools you don’t know much about, or need to decide between different types of schools. Plus, we can help you keep sane as you wait it out over the summer and give you tips for next year. As the adage goes, “everyone remain calm”, because that first letter is not the end of the line.

  • 5. Robin in WRP  |  March 19, 2015 at 9:23 am

    Our daughter (late August birthday) didn’t get into Decatur until 2nd grade. It all worked out fine!

  • 6. momof3  |  March 19, 2015 at 9:26 am

    Yes thanks to CPSObsessed for guidance and for the encouragement from the dedicated parents on this site. It finally worked for us last year. Our family’s desire to stay in the City- close to our jobs and family made us keep applying until we got into the schools of our choice. Kids are happy! Don’t give up -keep trying because it will work out just be persistent.

  • 7. Tired of waiting  |  March 19, 2015 at 9:28 am

    From previous experience, do people ever receive their letters the next day? All the letters (notifications of testing) that I got so far from CPS has arrived at least week after they were sent (we are not in a city).

  • 8. Kcabral  |  March 19, 2015 at 9:31 am

    Following, no letter yet.

    Applying for 1st grade. We’re in McKinley Park, near Bridgeport. We applied to most of the nearby magnets & open enrollment schools. SEES we applied to, in order: Skinner West, NTA, Pritzker, Skinner North, Lenart, McDade.

    Looking forward to hearing about everybody’s results, good luck to all!

    And another big thank you to CPSObsessed for all your work & help! Don’t know where I’d be without this outlet and source of info. I appreciate it tremendously!!

  • 9. Lina  |  March 19, 2015 at 9:52 am

    Just wanted to follow this post…the waiting game begins!

  • 10. Cathy  |  March 19, 2015 at 10:09 am

    Following! Good luck everyone!

  • 11. good luck  |  March 19, 2015 at 10:13 am

    Just following – good luck everyone.

  • 12. ruthie60607  |  March 19, 2015 at 10:27 am

    Following. Good luck to all

  • 13. klm  |  March 19, 2015 at 10:30 am


    Thanks for the sage words of wisdom re: schools working out.

    So true.

    I know of many people who ended up at a school way down their wish list, but who end up being happy and at a school where their kids are not just doing well, but thriving. People make friends with other parents that they would never had met otherwise, kids become friends-for-life with kids that they would never have met, etc.

    Just like with college, a “safety school” often becomes a place that ends up being just great and one eventually ends up really happy about things worked out.

  • 14. walker  |  March 19, 2015 at 10:36 am

    Good luck everyone! I’ll be in your shoes again in a year 🙂

  • 15. momofmany  |  March 19, 2015 at 10:58 am

    @7, Last year letters mailed on a Friday, and we received all of ours that Monday.

  • 16. Chiteacher  |  March 19, 2015 at 11:35 am

    I just spoke to OAE and they said that schools will probably be notified on Monday. Sigh.

  • 17. JMC  |  March 19, 2015 at 11:49 am

    Following & wishing all good luck.

  • 18. AnxiousDad  |  March 19, 2015 at 11:51 am

    I discovered this site last fall as I began to investigate ACs for my oldest. The wealth of information here and the hundreds of comments (I’ve read every last one re: ACs) have been an invaluable resource. My great appreciation to CPSObsessed and the many parent participants for that.

    So now it is upon us.. my son is full of anticipation as are my wife and I.

    There were a couple of bumps along the way that have brought reality into focus… to wit… his score won’t be high enough for WYAC and is right on the very edge for Lane (based on last yrs scores and MAP adjusted)

    A 91 MAPS Reading test score (lowest he’d ever scored bfr or since and it happens to occur on MAPS 5th grade spring — had always been 97+). And a 128 on the SE test.

    Giving him a total score of 819 in Tier 3. Just making it into T3 by one block.. whew!

    819 was the Lane cut-off last yr… using the MAPS adjusted it was 815. Obviously, putting my dear boy right on the edge. Another big jump in scores like last yr takes him out of the running… but the wrench in machine — first yr using MAPS test — might just save him.

    lol… I can only hope!

  • 19. Christina  |  March 19, 2015 at 12:02 pm


  • 20. took test  |  March 19, 2015 at 12:09 pm

    May your mailboxes be filled with good news soon!

  • 21. CPS mom  |  March 19, 2015 at 12:14 pm


  • 22. CPS parent  |  March 19, 2015 at 12:27 pm

    I bet that OAE is beyond frustrated with the volume of phone calls they have been receiving. Best of luck to everyone. May the odds be every in your favor! 🙂

  • 23. Mom of 1  |  March 19, 2015 at 12:30 pm

    Good luck everyone. Just following.

  • 24. Jennifer  |  March 19, 2015 at 1:04 pm

    This is going to be the longest weekend of my life. Good luck, everyone.

  • 25. JLS  |  March 19, 2015 at 1:06 pm

    #16…I was hoping for an email from a school before the letter, as many have said has happened in the past. I guess there is no hope of that since the schools themselves won’t be notified until Monday? 😦

  • 26. Single Child Mom  |  March 19, 2015 at 1:08 pm

    Just following….good luck everyone

  • 27. Rudey's Room  |  March 19, 2015 at 1:16 pm

    Best of luck everyone! I know how stressful this wait period is. Fingers crossed that the letters arrive on Saturday. Although, in the past the Classical and RGC came a few days later – maybe Monday or Tuesday.

    I remember my emotions all so vividly from three years ago when we went through the lottery with my oldest daughter, now in second grade. We did not get our first choice – which was my school. We did not get our number called for our second choice – which was a magnet close to my school. But in the end, the magnet school we got was a solid fit for our family albeit neither in our neighborhood nor near my school. My daughter is thriving there and three years in, we are so grateful that she got the school she got and that it worked out how it did. At the time, I was so so upset. We’re in the lucky category this time around – thanks to the sibling lottery. Yet I’m still feeling butterflies this week even knowing we get first dibs on the spots.

    I have a blog, and I’d like to share my story with you, in hopes that it gives you hope during this wait period and after.


    Moreover, I second what CPSO says: “A gentle reminder that for most families in CPS, it all works out somehow that their kid’s end up in a school that feels like a good fit and meets their kids needs. It may not happen this round, or even this year, but people leave the city, spots open up, things change. The news you get this week isn’t necessarily the be-all end-all of your child’s CPS experience. So hang in there.”

    Three years ago, we opted for the magnet school we received and declined the spot at Edison RGC. The logic was her sister. My youngest daughter is three years younger than my oldest and is up for a spot this year – it’s hard to beat the automatic sibling spot. This being said, when we declined Edison, a spot opened for another child/family.

    Hang in there.

    She was Edison RGC, 243, Tier II

  • 28. SuburbanMom  |  March 19, 2015 at 1:38 pm

    We are current Decatur parent (2nd grade) parent trying our luck with Edison Gifted this year. Can’t wait for tomorrow or maybe Monday (is it?)

  • 29. SuburbanMom  |  March 19, 2015 at 1:43 pm

    parents* (I meant)

  • 30. nervousmom  |  March 19, 2015 at 1:52 pm

    @suburbanMom, good luck — why are you hoping to leave decaatur?

  • 31. Bridgeport Mom  |  March 19, 2015 at 2:43 pm

    following….good luck everyone and thanks cpsobsessed for all the great posts.

  • 32. HSA mom  |  March 19, 2015 at 2:49 pm

    If I remember correctly I think we received the Magnet letter on the Friday that they were mailed last year. We then received the SEES letter on Saturday or Monday. I can’t remember about that one specifically. I do know that Skinner North emailed kindergarten acceptances before people received the letters. Good luck everyone!

  • 33. nervousmom  |  March 19, 2015 at 3:40 pm

    @27 Rudey

    Thank you for sharing your cps journey blog. It is both encouraging and comforting!

    What does the number “243” mean next to your tier?

  • 34. Jane  |  March 19, 2015 at 6:11 pm

    Good luck to you all!

  • 35. Rudey's Room  |  March 19, 2015 at 6:48 pm

    Thanks @nnervousmom. The 243 was my oldest’s score for the RGC. I just followed what it said at the top – probably in a mixed up order.

  • 36. fingers_crossed  |  March 19, 2015 at 7:16 pm

    Following. Good luck!

  • 37. Nadja2  |  March 19, 2015 at 7:37 pm

    Good luck to you all!

  • 38. West Loop parent  |  March 19, 2015 at 7:40 pm

    I know my child will be getting multiple magnet school offers and 1st choice of SEES. =) Good luck to you all!

  • 39. Confused Parent  |  March 19, 2015 at 7:52 pm

    @West Loop Parent

    How do you “know” your child will be getting magnet school offers and 1st choice on SEES. I have never known anyone to know before the letters go out? Please clue me in on this interesting information????

  • 40. took test  |  March 19, 2015 at 7:54 pm

    I will have a full blown conniption if those letters do not arrive by Saturday.

  • 41. question  |  March 19, 2015 at 7:55 pm

    @38 I am trying to maintain that same positivity!!!

  • 42. Cathy  |  March 19, 2015 at 7:59 pm

    West Loop mom, you are hilarious!!! Yes, me too! I’m Tier 4, but I just know that I will have my pick of options! Hmmm… Decatur or Hawthorne, how to choose? =)

  • 43. Logan Mom  |  March 19, 2015 at 8:03 pm

    I don’t understand why Principals are notified tomorrow. My daughter is at a SEES school and we were told that our Principal will not know until Monday morning. If the list is ready, what is the hold up?

  • 44. Confused Parent  |  March 19, 2015 at 8:04 pm

    Hahahaha! I see West Loop Parent lol that is hilarious. I am a little slow on the jokes tonight hahaha!!

  • 45. Cathy  |  March 19, 2015 at 8:13 pm

    Principals are notified Monday. The letter goes out Friday evening, according to a source I saw somewhere – on this thread or NPN. So parents will not know until Monday as well, in all likelihood. I imagine this is by design and an intentional policy from OAE.

  • 46. Letters  |  March 19, 2015 at 8:15 pm

    Yes, last year letters were mailed on a Friday! I applied to only ACs for the selective enrollment schools and magnets & magnet cluster schools. I distinctly remember being mad because the magnet letter came on Saturday and not the SE letter. That letter came on Monday & brought GOOD news! 🙂

    Good Luck to all! I am finished with the SE process!

  • 47. joanna  |  March 19, 2015 at 8:28 pm

    Good luck to everyone. we have our oldest at SN and are hoping to get twins in there as well…not having a good feeling as my daughter admitted to not doing her best, stating she was given playdough to play with after shrugging through the test waiting for her twin bro to finish.
    might have 3 kids at three different schools

  • 48. Fingers Crossed  |  March 19, 2015 at 8:32 pm

    Trying not to obsess over this. I mean, the stakes are low, right? DD can stay at her current school one more year (for K), so no pressure, right? RIGHT?! This is NO BIG DEAL! I AM TOTALLY CALM ABOUT THIS!!!

  • 49. nadja2  |  March 19, 2015 at 9:02 pm

    @47 Joanna I have b/g twins also and the same thing happened with my daughter. When she told me she played with play dough and her brother said nothing about it I was worried. But I just brushed it off eventually. I hope your twins make it in to SN. that was my 3rd choice.

  • 50. Southloopmom  |  March 19, 2015 at 9:07 pm


  • 51. Southside Tier 3 Mom  |  March 19, 2015 at 9:28 pm

    Following with my fingers crossed 😁

  • 52. Kirsten  |  March 19, 2015 at 10:03 pm


  • 53. Swiseman  |  March 19, 2015 at 10:46 pm

    Good luck to everyone. Anxiously waiting results of the lottery and testing.

  • 54. Waiting4Superman  |  March 20, 2015 at 1:21 am

    I can’t believe I’m doing this crap again! Trying for a fourth year to escape from our RGC.

  • 55. Cathy  |  March 20, 2015 at 1:25 am

    Ha! Escape from your RGC! Love it. I think it’s a reality check to me that I keep trying to remind myself of. For instance, if offered a warm, well rounded neighborhood school I hope I would take it over an RGC, if offered that as well. For me, it’s about the best fit for my guy.

  • 56. breathingdeeply  |  March 20, 2015 at 3:01 am

    I’m wasn’t freaking out before but now I think a small wave of anxiety is settling in….Good luck and best wishes to everyone out there…we’re in this together…or at least it feels that way…lol

  • 57. West loop  |  March 20, 2015 at 5:24 am

    Can a student be accepted to both a Classical school and RGC?

  • 58. Andersonville  |  March 20, 2015 at 5:56 am

    @ 28 Why do you want to switch from Decatur to Edison?

    @18 There is a separate thread for Academic Centers, post there so we can all celebrate or commiserate together – hopefully celebrate! My fingers are crossed for your son.

    Good luck everyone!

  • 59. Hawthorne mom  |  March 20, 2015 at 6:37 am

    @57 – nope. You will only get one acceptance if you get one at all. If you turn it down then you will go back in the pool and might get another one from a different type of school but you can’t be offered RGC and classical at the same time. However, you can get a magnet offer and a SEES offer at the same type as they are separate unrelated lotteries.

  • 60. Hawthorne mom  |  March 20, 2015 at 6:38 am

    Sorry, time not type

  • 61. mom  |  March 20, 2015 at 6:38 am

    @54 what RGC are you trying to escape from and why

  • 62. west loop  |  March 20, 2015 at 6:41 am

    @59 Thank you! Let’s hope these letters arrive asap.

  • 63. Suburbanmom  |  March 20, 2015 at 7:36 am

    @nervousmom and @andersonville –

    Decatur is great and my daughter is thriving but the lack of 7th / 8th grade is bothering us.

  • 64. Tacocat  |  March 20, 2015 at 7:58 am

    Why doesn’t CPS just post the new cutoff scores online? Then there would be no need to wait for letter in mail.

  • 65. SuburbanMom  |  March 20, 2015 at 8:08 am

    @Tacocat – couldn’t agree more! They could do both but please post them online…

  • 66. cpsobsessed  |  March 20, 2015 at 8:19 am

    Cps doesn’t post cutoffs because the sizes of each school grade is much smaller than for ACS and SEHS. In a class of 28 kids, if the post cutoffs by tier, one could surmise who got what score. Also, the cutoffs fluctuate greatly by the time all is said and done, unlike acs and sehs.

    But yes, more advanced technology usage would be nice. 🙂

    Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

  • 67. IG?  |  March 20, 2015 at 8:50 am

    IG applicants don’t know their scores going in. Need to wait until the letter comes to find that out, then see if it qualifies.

  • 68. Tacocat  |  March 20, 2015 at 8:54 am

    Sorry, I was referring to posting the cutoff scores for academic centers.

  • 69. mamikatabum  |  March 20, 2015 at 8:54 am

    Last year we received lottery letters on Friday and selective on Monday.
    We have a daughter attending Decatur and we love the school. This year we are hoping to get out boys there too 😉
    My son attends Disney Magnet and we live the school, sadly due to a hearing problem we have to leave the open pod.

    Best luck to all!!

  • 70. SSW  |  March 20, 2015 at 9:00 am

    Good luck to everyone! Following!

  • 71. nervousmom  |  March 20, 2015 at 9:08 am

    Doesn’t make sense why cps can’t post our lottery/waitlists/offers/scores on the same page we used to apply!

    They mailed us a PIN to our home, so address verification was done at that time. They could still mail letters to cover all bases, but making us wait for the pony express is inhumane!

    I heard Decatur school moved to a bigger space with junior school now. Can parents confirm?

    Waitingforsuperman, which RGC, and why? Thanks

  • 72. cpsobsessed  |  March 20, 2015 at 9:22 am

    Decatur has not moved.
    There was talk about a possible move to uptown but nothing has happened yet. Probably worth asking the school about if you get an offer.

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  • 73. Learning CPS  |  March 20, 2015 at 9:31 am

    @71 Decatur has not moved and current parents were told no decision would be made on the move at least until after the runoffs for Mayor and the 46th Ward. I’d be surprised if the school moved next year at this point if it moves at all, but the conversation about getting a 7th and 8th grade hasn’t ended.

  • 74. SuburbanMom  |  March 20, 2015 at 9:32 am

    As far as I understand moving Decatur to Stewart Elementary is off the table. Exploring onsite expansion plans as of now.

  • 75. zchisolmel  |  March 20, 2015 at 10:09 am

    @mamikatabum you received info back that fast last year. .wow I was thinking we wouldn’t hear anything until Monday at the earliest. ..

  • 76. Decatur Dad  |  March 20, 2015 at 10:21 am

    As I understand the Decatur expansion issue, both expansion on the current site and moving to Stewart are being pursued by the administration and the LSC. I have not heard anyone say relocating to Stewart is off the table. But whether either will be an option depends a lot on money, and no one knows right now where the money would come from.

  • 77. mom  |  March 20, 2015 at 10:23 am

    We also heard on Friday afternoon from magnet schools and then I think Saturday from SEES last year. There’s still hope you will hear something today! Also, Skinner North emailed families before letters arrived (but it sounds like that wouldn’t be until Monday this year if principals aren’t notified until Monday).

  • 78. Eg0210  |  March 20, 2015 at 10:30 am

    *impatiently waiting*!!!

  • 79. CPS parent  |  March 20, 2015 at 10:31 am

    Any word on if when the Magnet letters were mailed?

  • 80. SuburbanMom  |  March 20, 2015 at 10:37 am

    @Decatur Dad – you are right but check this out:
    It used to say Decatur was being considered for Stewart. It doesn’t say that anymore. I don’t have hopes now since that has happened. A bigger building + 7/8th grade would have been nice for Decatur.

    @73 – you summarized it right.

  • 81. Seriously  |  March 20, 2015 at 11:10 am

    Following. This is our millionth time in this process lol! This year we also have an incoming kindergartener so this is the first year I’m anxiously awaiting answers for 2 kids.

  • 82. nervousmom  |  March 20, 2015 at 11:36 am

    I just spoke to oae and all letters, for all options, are being mailed TODAY.
    Nothing will be arriving today.

  • 83. Cathy  |  March 20, 2015 at 11:43 am

    To piggy back, in the magnet where I work, our clerk told me that the letters are mailed out today, and the principals and schools would know who was accepted on Monday.

  • 84. Southside Tier 3 Mom  |  March 20, 2015 at 12:02 pm


  • 85. Going to 5th grade  |  March 20, 2015 at 1:02 pm

    Following the thread

  • 86. mom  |  March 20, 2015 at 1:14 pm

    Mail just came and no letter today 😦 Fingers crossed for tomorrow!

  • 87. techmom  |  March 20, 2015 at 1:38 pm

    Just thinking out loud… Living in the 21st century and for cost savings purposes. I wonder why couldn’t they post it online. Individuals can simply login and see the results the same day.

  • 88. West Loop parent  |  March 20, 2015 at 2:00 pm

    Did anyone get the mail today??!!!! I can’t wait to see my child has many offers!!!

  • 89. ohkayess  |  March 20, 2015 at 2:07 pm


  • 90. CPS parent  |  March 20, 2015 at 2:16 pm

    @87 I wholeheartedly agree. The idea of mailing thousands of letters seems so wasteful in 2015.

  • 91. cpsobsessed  |  March 20, 2015 at 2:25 pm

    That’s probably half the business for the chicago post offices in a given year! (aside from election crap.)

  • 92. nadja2  |  March 20, 2015 at 2:32 pm

    As a teacher in CPS it is extremely wasteful to mail when in my school we barely have copy paper…..end rant!

  • 93. WRECk  |  March 20, 2015 at 2:34 pm

    Good luck to all… Im a complete nervous wreck like everyone else….

  • 94. SkinnerMama  |  March 20, 2015 at 3:00 pm

    Mail came today – no CPS letter. Tomorrow or Monday it is, I guess.

  • 95. Kcabral  |  March 20, 2015 at 3:25 pm

    To all South Side parents —

    A South Side CPSObsessed page was created last year. If you’re interested in discussion focused on that area, you should check it out. I follow all of the pages because obsessed, lol.

    Hope this link works: https://cpsobsessed.com/2014/03/26/south-side-schools-thread-guest-post-by-maureen-kelleher/

    Good luck to all!!

  • 96. cgmom  |  March 20, 2015 at 3:38 pm


  • 97. ZIMOORE  |  March 20, 2015 at 4:14 pm

    Following. Good Luck Everyone!!!

  • 98. ridiculoucps  |  March 20, 2015 at 5:33 pm

    OAE says they processed 80,000 applications for k-8th.

    80,000 x postage (bulk rate) x paper x envelopes x printer ink
    x manpower-machine power to stuff and seal = (conservative minimum) $45,000 spent on this antiquated ridiculous mail process.

  • 99. cpsobsessed  |  March 20, 2015 at 6:00 pm

    I don’t there the 80k can mean unique applicants. Each grade in cps has 25-30k kids (wow, that still mind boggling) so there’s no way and extra 50k kids are applying for seats.

    And that would mean everyone applied through oae.

    But still, maybe it requires 80k envelopes?

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  • 100. ridiculoucps  |  March 20, 2015 at 6:30 pm

    @99. cpsobsessed

    I pulled that number from this article today. 80,000 seems like a lot, but thats what CPS says

  • 101. cpsobsessed  |  March 20, 2015 at 6:38 pm

    Ah, I see, that includes k through hs. It probably doubles up applicants applying to multiple programs. But still, 80k envelopes. Eek.

    Man, I feel bad for those families. It would totally be like me to not pay good attn to the robocall and mess it up for my kid.

    Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

  • 102. winwood  |  March 20, 2015 at 7:48 pm


  • 103. Waiting4Superman  |  March 20, 2015 at 8:44 pm

    @61 CARNEGIE!!!!!!!

  • 104. Waiting4Superman  |  March 20, 2015 at 8:46 pm

    Please God don’t let me have to pay elementary school tuition and college tuition for 2 at the same time. There must must must be a blessing coming for us in the mail next week.

  • 105. rewing123  |  March 20, 2015 at 9:29 pm


  • 106. zchisolmel  |  March 21, 2015 at 6:37 am

    Did anyone apply to back up schools. ..I know for us we really like Morgan Park Academy son will be entering kindergarten. …its wonderful my son absolutely loved it and had been accepted, we’re just waiting to hear from CPS before we make a final decision. The only draw back is that is private so we will have to pay tuition. ..which is something we really don’t want to do. ..paying for preschool hasn’t been easy. .but what other options are there. My son is reading and doing math on a third grade level and I don’t want to lose that…..

  • 107. zchisolmel  |  March 21, 2015 at 6:38 am

    @104 Were waiting on our blessing in the mailbox at work. …good luck! !

  • 108. Southside Tier 3 Mom  |  March 21, 2015 at 8:38 am

    Waiting impatiently on today’s mail!!!

  • 109. Letters  |  March 21, 2015 at 8:57 am

    Letter carrier stalking season is now officially open! Please remember, it is not ok to physically attack or verbally assault your letter carrier. Whether or not your letter is actually in their truck and the results on the letter are both things over which they have no control. Both physical and emotional control are encouraged when one opens their letters. Good luck to everyone!!! Fingers crossed!!!

  • 110. nervousmom  |  March 21, 2015 at 9:27 am

    the city has plow tracker, why can’t they have mail carrier tracker?!

  • 111. ??  |  March 21, 2015 at 9:38 am

    @35 Rudey’s Room
    I thought the highest score on the SEES test was 160 (or listed as 160+) Can someone clarify? Can a child score 243?

  • 112. mom  |  March 21, 2015 at 9:52 am

    I thought the same thing. Maybe she meant 143. I know my child got a 140 (which I think was about the 98th% according to IIT so couldn’t possibly be a score of 243) last year when applying to kindergarten (and didn’t get in anywhere since we’re tier 4).

    I have heard that scores are generally much lower when applying to 1st and beyond and that it’s actually out of 150, not 160. Some
    speculate that the group testing (vs one-on-one done for kindergarten) leads to lower scores too. I saw lots of kids with scores in the 120s for older grades getting accepted to schools whereas for kindergarten it seemed as though scores had to be much higher than that – especially in tier 4.

  • 113. LSmom  |  March 21, 2015 at 9:53 am

    Guessing the first digit was a typo, the test does cap out at 160+. 143 would get you a spot at Edison in tier 2.

  • 114. momofboys242  |  March 21, 2015 at 10:07 am

    Regarding the test score. There’s a ruberic online that is used for the academic centers and gifted programs. So a score of 150 is a 300 point value.

  • 115. ??  |  March 21, 2015 at 10:27 am

    My child’s test score was 12 points higher testing for an academic center vs kindergarten spot. Just depends on the kid I guess.

  • 116. zchisolmel  |  March 21, 2015 at 10:37 am

    Nothing in today’s mail for us. …so Monday it is. .

  • 117. west loop  |  March 21, 2015 at 10:51 am

    Your mail arrived already???

  • 118. Swiseman  |  March 21, 2015 at 10:53 am

    Do you think if the mail generally comes later in the day that those people have a higher chance of getting their letters today vs those whose mail comes in the morning? Just twirling my thumbs over here

  • 119. UV  |  March 21, 2015 at 10:55 am

    I hope so! I just ran out and no mail here yet.

  • 120. mamikatabum  |  March 21, 2015 at 11:14 am

    @Swiseman, I hope so! My mail doesn’t come until around 5pm. I am waiting for two kids :/

  • 121. Simone  |  March 21, 2015 at 11:17 am

    I didnt get it in the mail today!

  • 122. zchisolmel  |  March 21, 2015 at 11:32 am

    We usually get mail early unless our regular carrier is off

  • 123. JLS  |  March 21, 2015 at 11:33 am

    Does anyone else occasionally get mail on Sundays? It does in my neighborhood, but according to a thread on Everyblock, people seem to think it’s the carriers trying to play catch up. Either way, I’m hoping that if there’s nothing today, I won’t have to wait until Monday….I know, most likely just delusional, wishful thinking….

  • 124. nervousmom  |  March 21, 2015 at 11:41 am

    60642 mail man just left…

    all I got was a trader joes fearless flyer.

    it is heartrending to continue this wait into next week!!!

  • 125. Cathy  |  March 21, 2015 at 11:47 am

    The hazards of working for CPS- I got an envelope with the CPS letterhead. It’s from HR. Wah-wah.

  • 126. HPMom  |  March 21, 2015 at 12:01 pm

    Mail came to 60651. Nothing 😦

  • 127. NCPmom2018  |  March 21, 2015 at 12:04 pm

    60641 no cps letter in the mail! Only applied to top magnet schools, we didn’t do the testing for my son entering kinder, thinking next year he will be better prepared! It’s this or private….I need a break after all those years of paying daycare and still have a 4 year old in daycare!

  • 128. Amanda  |  March 21, 2015 at 1:24 pm


  • 129. Southside Tier 3 Mom  |  March 21, 2015 at 1:25 pm

    No letter. 60617.

  • 130. CPS mom  |  March 21, 2015 at 1:38 pm

    Just an advertisement for Rahm. 60643

  • 131. Waiting on notice  |  March 21, 2015 at 1:38 pm

    No letters came zip code 60618

  • 132. momof3  |  March 21, 2015 at 2:02 pm

    Neighbors got mail but nothing for us – not even junk mail.- North Park 60625

  • 133. Chimom  |  March 21, 2015 at 2:48 pm

    FYI- wanted this info last year. My son scored a 144 for tier 4 and never got off the wait list at Edison or Coonley.

  • 134. 133  |  March 21, 2015 at 2:50 pm

    I called OAE on Friday to check on the status of the letters and the woman I spoke with said “after today, the letters will be with the post office” after that I thought Monday at the earliest to get our letter.

  • 135. Chimom  |  March 21, 2015 at 2:57 pm

    This was for kindergarten.

  • 136. jane  |  March 21, 2015 at 3:03 pm

    No cps letters 60616

  • 137. cpsobsessed  |  March 21, 2015 at 3:08 pm

    So I think we can conclude that letters didn’t get into the post on friday.

    Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

  • 138. morganhalstead  |  March 21, 2015 at 3:16 pm

    I think so. I haven’t heard of a soul who received one.

  • 139. Swiseman  |  March 21, 2015 at 3:22 pm

    No letters – 60647

  • 140. Seriously  |  March 21, 2015 at 3:32 pm

    Yep, mailman just came and there was nothing from CPS. Bummer.

  • 141. Nope  |  March 21, 2015 at 3:41 pm

    Nothing for 60622

  • 142. SloopMama  |  March 21, 2015 at 4:37 pm

    While we’re all waiting…here’s a fun event from NPN you can RSVP for this Wednesday 3/26 – After the Letters “Whine” & Cheese Social at Birch Road Cellar in Lincoln Park: http://www.npnparents.org/events/2096
    It’s free for all NPN members, sounds like a fun way to share your CPS experience and waitlist numbers with other parents. We could all use some wine – or lots! – after this process!

  • 143. Robin in WRP  |  March 21, 2015 at 4:43 pm

    @Suburban Mom – of the 54 (think) 6th graders in my daughter’s class at Decatur, 18 went to Whitney, at least that many went to Taft (this was pre-AC at Lane); the school counselor made sure that every student would up in a “good” school. Our back-up plan was to send her back to North Park (she was there for K-1).

  • 144. southside tier 3 mom  |  March 21, 2015 at 5:33 pm

    No letter here 60643

  • 145. SuburbanMom  |  March 21, 2015 at 5:40 pm

    @Robin – thanks for sharing. That’s so helpful. There won’t be any regrets if she doesn’t get into Edison it will just make our lives simpler. She really loves Decatur and it will be a hard move 😦 .
    Apparently there are only 3-4 seats at that grade level so it will be nothing short of a miracle if she gets in.

  • 146. walker  |  March 21, 2015 at 7:46 pm

    @145 Last year there was only 1 seat available and this year they are missing 1 student but my son tells me the boy might come back (I doubt it but who knows). So, I’m not sure about 3-4 seats this year. At the same time, everything is possible as there is time until September. Good luck to your daughter! The kids in 2nd grade here are nice and parents are very supportive.

  • 147. UV  |  March 22, 2015 at 7:47 am

    It feels nice to have a day off from stressing about mail and letters.

  • 148. Susan m  |  March 22, 2015 at 7:56 am


  • 149. Tier4Mom  |  March 22, 2015 at 4:00 pm

    Good luck to all… really hope letters will come Monday. I’ll have to wait until I get home from work…yikes!

  • 150. seriously  |  March 23, 2015 at 12:15 am

    Fingers crossed that everyone gets the letters they are hoping for tomorrow!!

  • 151. Ziggiez  |  March 23, 2015 at 1:27 am

    Good Day All!!! Have a great day today and only happy thoughts……. hopefully we’ll get something today!!!!

  • 152. Thingsthatmakeyougohmmmmm  |  March 23, 2015 at 2:46 am

    Anyone with previous experience with this process please feel free to offer any guidance……I’ve heard a few rumblings on a few blog sites about the schools sending emails to newly admitted students/families is this true? Do the schools send out emails or is that like an urban legend…

  • 153. LSmom  |  March 23, 2015 at 5:46 am

    Last year, Skinner North and Skinner West sent out emails to admitted students. The year before that, Skinner North sent emails out.

  • 154. Waiting4Superman  |  March 23, 2015 at 6:51 am

    Which is why they aren’t telling schools before the letters are mailed out anymore. It wasn’t fair that some families were notified before others.

  • […] 2015 SEES GIFTED and CLASSICAL Elem Thread CPS Obsessed: Share scores, questions, and knowledge here about gifted and classical programs. And remember, the process takes some time to work through the lists. See also Gifted, Neighborhood/Magnet. […]

  • 156. scarlett329  |  March 23, 2015 at 9:27 am


  • 157. PreK Mom  |  March 23, 2015 at 9:40 am


  • 158. Southside fingers crossed mom  |  March 23, 2015 at 9:51 am

    This snow better not mess with the mail delivery today! LOL! What a long weekend of waiting only to wake up to this bs weather. I pray we all get our letters today!

  • 159. frannyglass79  |  March 23, 2015 at 9:55 am

    Following and anxiously waiting!! Best to all!

  • 160. cpsmom  |  March 23, 2015 at 10:04 am

    I called the post office to make sure that the post-man would be able to make his rounds in this weather. I offered to maybe help him on his route until he reached my house. They said no.

  • 161. JLP in LSq  |  March 23, 2015 at 10:06 am


  • 162. totismomi  |  March 23, 2015 at 10:16 am

    Applied for kinder
    Rgc 139
    Classical r93 / m95
    Tier 2 no offers
    Wanted skinner. Guess we stay where we are. Anyone know how close we got?

  • 163. Southside Tier 3 Mom  |  March 23, 2015 at 10:17 am

    Anyone received an email from ANYWHERE?

  • 164. Southside Tier 3 Mom  |  March 23, 2015 at 10:19 am

    @totismomi, you got a letter already????

  • 165. totismomi  |  March 23, 2015 at 10:23 am

    Yes. Mail just came. 2 letters. No good news.

  • 166. WRECk  |  March 23, 2015 at 10:24 am

    Was tha second letter for magnet? Hopefuly tjings will change in the summer yiur child scored really well

  • 167. LSmom  |  March 23, 2015 at 10:26 am

    Early mail delivery! That might get you a second round RGC offer from Tier 2, especially if you applied to NTA (that score would have gotten you a first round offer there last year)

  • 168. totismomi  |  March 23, 2015 at 10:35 am

    Yes second letter was magnet. I posted waitlist numbers On the other thread. Can’t remember which schools i listed. Wanted skinner west. Listed anything relatively close.

  • 169. Swiseman  |  March 23, 2015 at 10:36 am

    I got an email from Agassiz this morning (I know that’s not SEES) but schools have the info.

  • 170. CPS mom  |  March 23, 2015 at 10:40 am

    Yes 139 is a good score! I imagine you are close to cut off and could have 2nd round offers, depending on where you applied. We had tier 4, 142 last year and had a 1st round offer at NTA.

  • 171. datanerd  |  March 23, 2015 at 10:43 am

    As the thread data nerd, I wonder if it would be Ok to please ask parents to also post how long it took for the child to test in addition to scores, tiers, grade. etc.

    Would be interesting to see if there is any correlation or not.

    Best of luck to all on this snowy day.

  • 172. WRECk  |  March 23, 2015 at 10:43 am

    Are magnets also sendingbout emails?

  • 173. totismomi  |  March 23, 2015 at 10:50 am

    She was about 45 min testing. She can read 3&4 letter words when pushed to sound out. She can add and subtract small numbers but said they didn’t all her any of that.

  • 174. nts  |  March 23, 2015 at 10:53 am


  • 175. ruthcrisler  |  March 23, 2015 at 11:02 am

    Totismomi, we got a 1st round offer last year for K with 142, tier 2. And our older child got a second round offer two years earlier with a lower score.

  • 176. totismomi  |  March 23, 2015 at 11:16 am


  • 177. ughcps  |  March 23, 2015 at 11:24 am


  • 178. LVDad  |  March 23, 2015 at 11:34 am

    Tier 4, 99 Reading, 98 Math, 115 RGC. Only classical school applied to was Skinner North, no offer.

  • 179. mom  |  March 23, 2015 at 11:36 am

    LVDad -For kindergarten?

  • 180. LVDad  |  March 23, 2015 at 11:36 am

    OK – forgot to also add – This was for K, and he was testing for about 45 minutes.

  • 181. bchm  |  March 23, 2015 at 11:36 am


  • 182. WRECk  |  March 23, 2015 at 11:39 am

    @ lvdad thats awesome scores…. Keep faith their will be lots of shifting this summer… My prayers are with every child testing

  • 183. LVDad  |  March 23, 2015 at 11:48 am

    Thanks @WRECk. His sister was offered a spot at Skinner North 2 years ago, in the 3rd round, with the *exact* same classical scores.

  • 184. Another mom  |  March 23, 2015 at 11:51 am

    What a screwed up system when a kid with 98 and 99 could potentially not get in. Ugh.

  • 185. West Loop parent  |  March 23, 2015 at 11:57 am

    @178:Hope your child will get it in the second round. Don’t lose hope! What’s your second choice?

  • 186. g2-8f9bc4c075669b4ea0a3fd4283844b88  |  March 23, 2015 at 12:17 pm


  • 187. north side mom  |  March 23, 2015 at 12:20 pm

    Its not a screwed up system; its competitive. When a kid gets 98 and 99, that child will likely excel anywhere. Simply because that child did not get into ONE SCHOOL, does not mean doom and gloom. Let’s maintain perspective.

  • 188. CPS parent  |  March 23, 2015 at 12:22 pm

    I disagree. When Tiers dictate the score needed and a child who lives in a “lower” Tier can get a lower score, it is unfair.

  • 189. lawmom  |  March 23, 2015 at 12:27 pm

    Just wanted to post this somewhere in case folks were looking at preschools — Pritzker school is hosting an open house.

    Dear Prospective Preschool Parents,
    We will be holding a Preschool Open House Wednesday, April 15 from 4:30 – 6:00 p.m. You’ll be able to visit the classroom, and meet the preschool teacher, Liz Russell. Also, the Roving Application Team from Chicago:Ready to Learn will be onsite at Pritzker on Monday, April 20, from 8:00 a.m. – 11:00 a.m. to accept applications for the 2015-2016 school year. Please spread the word to any other parents of preschool-aged children!
    You can find the application for Preschool online at: http://www.cps.edu/readytolearn
    The applications are also available in Pritzker School’s Main Office.
    We are located at 2001 W. Schiller Street. Please use the Main Entrance to access the building, and follow the signs to Room 115, our preschool room.
    We look forward to meeting you on April 15!

  • 190. Southwest Side Mom  |  March 23, 2015 at 12:29 pm

    RGC: 113
    Applied to Lenart and did not get in.
    Did not apply to Classical Schools. But did get Reading and Math Scores. They weren’t very high.

  • 191. Southwest Side Mom  |  March 23, 2015 at 12:31 pm

    P.S. Tier 4 & Kindergarten

  • 192. Curiousjane  |  March 23, 2015 at 12:32 pm

    Still waiting on the mail and hoping for good news.

    I have to agree that the tier system promotes fairness, if in a broader sense than what you are describing. Someone in tier 4 likely has access to more opportunities and has more things going for them than someone in tier 1. I would gladly give my child’s spot to a disadvantaged child with no other options, even if her scores were higher. Honestly, I think anyone who is privileged enough to be in tier 4 (that’s our tier) should spend less time complaining about it being unfair and more time thanking their lucky stars. And maybe get out there and see if you can balance the scales for some other child who really needs it. That’s just my two cents.

  • 193. Kelly Hunt Vander Vliet  |  March 23, 2015 at 12:34 pm

    My daughter is entering K. Just got our letter. She scored 144 on the regional gifted. For classica–86 for reading and 95 for math. No offers 😦

  • 194. NorthCenterMom  |  March 23, 2015 at 12:35 pm

    Additional Info for those interested in Coonley – My child scored a 145 in Tier 4 for Coonley and did not get in last year (we are neighborhood). The year prior (2013-14) apparently went down to 144 for Tier 4 (this child was given an offer first week of school). We have been very happy with the neighborhood program though – my child reads and does math at second grade level and there are others in the neighborhood class who are at similar levels and they are grouped and challenged accordingly.

  • 195. Kelly Hunt Vander Vliet  |  March 23, 2015 at 12:35 pm

    Forgot to mention, we are tier 4.

  • 196. Nancy  |  March 23, 2015 at 12:36 pm

    I could not agree more with you, Curiousjane. The unfair comments reek of entitlement.

  • 197. oy  |  March 23, 2015 at 12:37 pm

    every thread the fair vs unfair argument. Are tiers perfect? no. Is the playing field level or “fair” to start? No. Instead we have huge economic divides that equal huge achievement gaps beginning as early as pre-school. Is it fair that kids, through no fault of their own, are starting out delayed compared to their wealthier counterparts? Is it fair to continue to deny them access to opportunities that could lessen that gap and even catapult them beyond where they should be statistically? Is it fair for 10 minutes to determine how likely a given child is to succeed in a particular program? Is life fair in general? Is it fair to our children to teach them that all is always balanced and…fair? I know the same could be said for children born in poverty. Suck it up and try harder, life’s not fair. But there’s fair and there’s right and I think it’s more right to make attempts to level the playing field. To say that “hey you. you got lucky with your lot in life. Yes you have to score higher, but that is easier for you to do given your background.” (stepping off of soapbox)

  • 198. Southwest Side Mom  |  March 23, 2015 at 12:38 pm

    Also, just read this on the back of the letter: “Selections for the kindergarten Regional Gifted Center Seats begin as high as 160; approximately 3,400 students were tested for seats at the kindergarten level this year. Selections for first grade tbrought eighth begin at 150. Children who earn a score below 115 are not considered potential candidates for a Regional Gifted Center.”

  • 199. otdad  |  March 23, 2015 at 12:38 pm

    The mail is in! Our son’s scores:

    Reading: 99.9% Math: 99.9% RGC: 144

    offered: Skinner North (1st choice)

  • 200. also..  |  March 23, 2015 at 12:39 pm

    @184, because these are percentile scores and not percents, there is a huge difference between 98th and 99th and 99.9th percentiles than if that number represented a simple percentage of correct answers. A good way to illustrate the difference is to convert the percentiles into fractions making the numerator the same for all. A child scoring in the 98th percentile is at the top 1/50 children; at the 99th percentile, they are 1/100; at the 99.9th percentile they are 1/1000. The difference is exponential, not linear.

  • 201. LVDad  |  March 23, 2015 at 12:41 pm

    @185 West Loop mom – because his sister is at Skinner North, that was the only classical school we sought. We like our neighborhood option (Hamilton) and also have a magnet offer at Disney.

    Nothing to complain about for the tiered system. I have to admit that once you see the kids in the class at a school like SN, you would have no idea who was a tier 4 or tier 1 based on their performance. My only selfish wish would be that they do something to help *qualified* siblings attend the same school.

  • 202. WRECk  |  March 23, 2015 at 12:41 pm

    Congrats otdad… Proud moment… Be happy breath and smile…. Good luck all

  • 203. otdad  |  March 23, 2015 at 12:41 pm

    Tier 4

  • 204. LynnJ  |  March 23, 2015 at 12:42 pm

    Kelly Hunt, insane! Very good scores. What schools did you apply for?

    otdad, what grade and tier. Congrats.

  • 205. Another mom  |  March 23, 2015 at 12:42 pm

    I get all of that, but please do remember that some of us are renting small apartments in tier 4 neighborhoods so we have to be careful with regard to making assumptions about income based on people’s tiers. I also have friends who are very well off and live in lower tier neighborhoods.

    Anyway, I meant more that it is a bizarre system that does not have any specific options for kids who are not accepted into an SEES even with extremely high number who might in fact be gifted or need accelerated instruction. It’s a tough pill to swallow even when you might have the “resources of a tier 4 family.” Many CPS schools really do not provide much for kids within “regular” schools like suburban schools do – ie pull out, enrichment classes… I think some of this SEES competitiveness would be cut down if more schools offered Gifted Comprehensive Programs like Hamiltons – inside school, based on MAP scores and other on-site testing, and fluid so kids can move in and out over the years. Seems like a much more authentic model since we all know that this one 20 min testing session is not always a good assessment of giftedness and that kids change as they grow. Not sure why CPS doesn’t expand those programs – very limited locations right now.

  • 206. 1stTimeCPSMom  |  March 23, 2015 at 12:43 pm


  • 207. brunettechicagogal  |  March 23, 2015 at 12:45 pm

    Agree with Curiousjane. What’s unfair is that our school system is stratified at all and that the vast majority of high-performing elementary schools are clustered in one part of the city while other kids continue to get the shaft. It’s more than unfair; it’s criminal, in my opinion.

  • 208. totismomi  |  March 23, 2015 at 12:48 pm

    So why do the math/reading scores not seem to correlate with the rgc score. Seems like high in one would dictate high in the other.

  • 209. Nancy  |  March 23, 2015 at 12:53 pm

    If ensuring your child is offered a spot at a SEES is the key to their future success, as some of the parents on this board appear to believe, and you know that your child could be offered such a spot with a lower test score if you live in a lower-Tier neighborhood, rent an apartment or buy a house in a lower-Tier neighborhood. Live there and determine whether the access to a SEES is as important as you think it is, and if such access outweighs your experience in such a neighborhood, generally. The point is that many people living in lower-Tier neighborhoods would likely same that it’s difficult, that they would prefer to live somewhere else, and that having a child at a SEES is a positive, but doesn’t make the other issues they deal with disappear.

  • 210. Kelly Hunt Vander Vliet  |  March 23, 2015 at 12:54 pm

    I was wondering that too, totismomi. My girl’s 144 is a pretty high score, right? But then reading at only 86…and math at 95. Seems weird to me. I do agree that she is better at math than reading but how did the other score get so high? Do schools use all the numbers or certain schools use only the RG?

  • 211. also..  |  March 23, 2015 at 12:55 pm

    RGC test is an IQ test while the classical test is an achievement test. Sometimes both are high, but it is possible to have high potential (or IQ) and average achievement or high achievement and average IQ.

  • 212. Kelly Hunt Vander Vliet  |  March 23, 2015 at 12:57 pm

    Wow, Otdad, I am happy for you but I wonder how my daughter who also got a 144 didn’t get into Skinner North, also our 1st choice. They must use the math and reading scores too then, because your 99.9 percents are much higher than my daughters 86 and 95. I am surprised they even gave you the score down to the .9!

  • 213. Curiousjane  |  March 23, 2015 at 12:58 pm

    I get that not everyone in tier 4 is wealthy and vice versa. It’s not a perfect system. But I sleep better knowing the the systems errs on the side of serving the underprivileged, not favoring those who already have so much. That being said, it’s not easy to see our own children as part of a wider community when we want so desperately for them to have the very best. And the CPS system is demented it makes it hard to keep perspective. I have three, waiting on scores for my youngest and have yet to get a placement after 5 years of trying. But it has all worked out and my kids are happy. Maybe when I get another “no offer” letter today I’ll be singing a different tune 😉

  • 214. totismomi  |  March 23, 2015 at 12:59 pm

    Kelly. Your score is really high to have no offers. I’m getting more confused. Plus our reading/math was high (to me), but my child said they never asked her to read or add.

  • 215. Kelly Hunt Vander Vliet  |  March 23, 2015 at 12:59 pm

    thanks, also..! I thought it was something like that. I just wasn’t sure if the schools used all three scores combined or if some used particular ones for particular schools.

  • 216. A Dad Wjp  |  March 23, 2015 at 1:00 pm

    @212 – they’re different tests. The 144 is a fantastic score, and is used for admission to RGCs (like Edison, Coonely and Bell). The percentage scores your child got are also good (86 and 95), and are used for admission to classical schools (Skinner North, Decatur). Your daughter’s scores have a shot at an RGC, but are not likely going to draw a Classical offer. Regardlesss, you can be very proud of your little girl.

  • 217. justanotherdad  |  March 23, 2015 at 1:02 pm

    Kelly @212 – I remember when my daughter got into Decatur 2 years back her reading scores read > 99.9 and Math 94 and Tier – 3. So 99.9 is possible.

  • 218. ChiTownMom  |  March 23, 2015 at 1:03 pm

    212, I believe those are two parts of the test you are referring to…the 144 is for RGC and the percentiles (reading/math) I believe are for the Classical schools. Two totally different ranks/test. I could be wrong, but this is what I always understood. For example, Lenart is a RGC and that would be the number score you would be looking at (144). Skinner would be the percentiles because it is a classical school. Say you did really well on the gifted part and then bombed the reading/math part, but only put down classical schools…then you would not be offered any spaces because you did not put any RGCs where you may actually qualify.

  • 219. LostInTranslation  |  March 23, 2015 at 1:04 pm

    @215 Kelly, skinner North is a classical school so only the reading/math scores are considered. The 144 your child received in the RGC test is relevant for Edison, Coonley, Pritzker and all the other Rgcs. They are completely separate.

  • 220. ChrisK  |  March 23, 2015 at 1:05 pm

    60643 lottery came today

  • 221. bb  |  March 23, 2015 at 1:06 pm

    Otdad, congrats. Remember reading your test experience comparison of your daughter vs your son. They will be both in SN then. Really nice. Did you also get an email from SN? Thanks for sharing.

  • 222. Chimom2  |  March 23, 2015 at 1:07 pm

    Does CPS take birth month into account?

  • 223. Learning CPS  |  March 23, 2015 at 1:07 pm

    @ 212 – Skinner North is a Classical school so only your child’s 86/95 would be the scores considered for admission. The 144 would only be applied for admission at the RGC’s you applied for.

    I think the .9 only is used for the 99.9 or >99.9 which is essentially the top score (like a >160 is for RGC). I’ve never seen anyone post another number given with the .9. My daughter got a >99.9 when we did the test 2 years ago and I remember wondering why her other score was only a whole number, so it stuck with me as I watched scores posted.

  • 224. totismomi  |  March 23, 2015 at 1:08 pm

    At also. Thank you. That clarifies alot and makes sense in reference to my child. Also makes me wonder, using her test scores, what the best place for her would be. Push her in worth higher iq kids where she would possibly struggle, but be pushed harder or put her where she would be less stressed.

  • 225. Riis  |  March 23, 2015 at 1:10 pm

    There are some disadvantaged people who live in Tier 4 neighborhoods. Usually, they have Section 8 or are living with family or in a facility of some sort and the Tier system, unfortunately, is not set up to account for people like that. The people who I believe they try to level the playing field for can’t even afford rent in a small apartment in the Tier 4 without some sort of assistance. Usually rent is a bit steep maybe $800+ per month in Tier 4 neighborhoods. They typically wouldn’t even end up in a Tier 4 neighborhood for the Tier system to negatively effect them. In Tier 1 and 2 neighborhoods they are paying $350-$450 a month for a small one bedroom apartment and may not be able to afford that without assistance and are surrounded by terrible school options.

    On that note, is there a neighborhood school in a Tier 1 or Tier 2 neighboorhood that performs well like the popular Edison’s, Bell’s, etc.?

  • 226. CPS mom too  |  March 23, 2015 at 1:10 pm

    Just to add on, 212, there are kids who don’t have a lot of formal reading/math instruction (say they were at a playbased preschool) who do quite well on the RGC test but don’t do as well on the classical test which is more of an achievement oriented test. Also, there was a lively debate about the validity of the scores several years ago and pretty sure someone who talked to IIT said that there are few false positives–so if your kid gets a high score that’s probably representative of his/her ability to do well in these programs–but lots of false negatives. My dd’s RGC score has bounced around, which doesn’t seem to correlate on how she’s doing on more in-depth standardized tests at school and in her RGC program.

  • 227. CPS mom too  |  March 23, 2015 at 1:11 pm

    ***correlate with***

  • 228. momofmany  |  March 23, 2015 at 1:15 pm

    Entering 5th. Score 127. Offered Pritzker (1st choice). Thrilled for my ds.

  • 229. Keller Gifted Alum  |  March 23, 2015 at 1:34 pm

    following and scared…

  • 230. Lenart info please  |  March 23, 2015 at 1:38 pm

    Can anyone offers some current information about Lenart? My friend’s daughter just got accepted for K. Sorry I don’t know scores. My friend needs intel on Lenart (she has a magnet acceptance and a high wait list at STEM in the hopper, too). She just had her third child and probably doesn’t have time to monitor this blog, so I’m tracking for her. Thanks for any intel!

  • 231. 444  |  March 23, 2015 at 1:40 pm

    Tier 4 – tested two kids
    Entering 1st grade:
    Regional: 123
    Reading: 99
    Math: 98
    – offered Beaubien (1st choice)

    entering KG:
    Regional: 130
    Reading: 83
    Math: 66
    no offer (not surprised)

  • 232. Diana  |  March 23, 2015 at 1:44 pm

    Our son’s scores for kindergarten are
    Reading 99
    Math 75
    RGC 118

    He woke up with a fever the day he tested. Took him to the doctor later that evening. He had strep throat. No offers. We will try again next year.

  • 233. Keller Gifted Alum  |  March 23, 2015 at 1:50 pm

    Gosh, I almost wish I’d stayed home from work so that I can stay by the mailbox!!! I know I’m not alone here…

  • 234. TwoChickens  |  March 23, 2015 at 1:52 pm

    Entering 2nd. Score 109! Already in a different RGC program and now is not even considered eligible? I don’t get it.
    Entering K. Score 128. We did not test for classical yet got classical scores? R 99.7 M 94
    Tier 4

  • 235. JJMom  |  March 23, 2015 at 1:52 pm

    Tier 4, entering kindergarten:
    Regional: 107
    Reading: 90
    Math: 98
    No offers.

  • 236. momofmany  |  March 23, 2015 at 1:57 pm

    Entering K. Tier 4. RGC: 116 Classical: 84R/83M. no offers. Will join sister at Disney.

    Entering 2. RGC: 94 Classical: 18R/51M
    Yikes! Will join sister at Disney.

    Entering 4. RGC: 107 Classical: 64R/69M Will stay at Disney!

  • 237. ChiTownMom  |  March 23, 2015 at 1:58 pm

    @TwoChickens….you automatically test for classical that young. You do not get a choice….both test are given at the same time and you are not given a choice. It is automatic for everyone.

  • 238. Seriously  |  March 23, 2015 at 1:59 pm

    What is your tier @momofmany?

  • 239. otdad  |  March 23, 2015 at 1:59 pm

    @202. WRECk:
    Thanks! Best of luck everyone.

    @204. LynnJ:
    It’s for K, tier 4. He birthday is in February. Testing time about 60min.

    @221. bb:
    Thanks! Skinner North is basically our only desired choice. Otherwise, he would go to neighborhood school Lincoln, about the same distance to Skinner North.

    Surprisingly, there is no email from Skinner North this year. When I dropped off my daughter this morning, I walked into the office. They haven’t got the list as of 9am.

  • 240. West Loop parent  |  March 23, 2015 at 2:03 pm

    @otdad: Did SN email you too? I’m not home checking my mail yet. So anxious!! Thank you!! And Congrats!!!

  • 241. ebmom  |  March 23, 2015 at 2:03 pm

    Regional: 134
    Reading: 89th
    Math: 98th
    no offers
    Tier 4

  • 242. SloopMama  |  March 23, 2015 at 2:10 pm

    RGC score: 122, Tier 4
    Entering 1st grade
    Offer: Keller RGC

  • 243. Result time  |  March 23, 2015 at 2:10 pm

    Regional 139
    No Offers
    Reading 99.6
    Math 94
    Tier 4
    (Applied to Skinner North)

  • 244. SouthSidePride  |  March 23, 2015 at 2:11 pm

    Tier 2
    RGC 144
    Math 97 reading 87
    Offered NTA

    (Sister is at South Loop RGC. What I wouldn’t have given to have the program in one school. Ugh. South Loop is bursting at the seems. The kids there deserve better.)

  • 245. AMom  |  March 23, 2015 at 2:12 pm

    Tier 4 1st grade

    RGC -119

    Reading 99
    Math 90

    No offers

  • 246. JJJ  |  March 23, 2015 at 2:14 pm

    Offered bell
    Entering 1st
    Tier 4

  • 247. Keller Gifted Alum  |  March 23, 2015 at 2:14 pm

    Good job to your little one @SloopMama!!!

  • 248. SloopMama  |  March 23, 2015 at 2:18 pm

    Thank you, @Keller Gifted Alum! Any kids there now? I’d love to chat offline. I don’t know any Keller parents (yet).

  • 249. RogersPark  |  March 23, 2015 at 2:19 pm

    Entering K. Tier 3.
    RGC: 138
    Classical: 95 Reading
    96 Math
    No offers.

  • 250. Rudey's Room  |  March 23, 2015 at 2:20 pm

    Best of luck. I was just reading through treads and saw that I’d put 243 for my daughters score. I meant. 143. sorry about that 🙂

  • 251. otdad  |  March 23, 2015 at 2:24 pm

    240. West Loop parent:
    Thank you! We haven’t got an email from Skinner North, unlike previous years.

  • 252. Keller Gifted Alum  |  March 23, 2015 at 2:25 pm

    @SloopMama None in Keller yet, we’re waiting on results (entering 1st, Tier 4). Keller is our 1st choice. Morgan Park Academy is our runner-up. Last year the little one had a 119 on the RGC, so I’m hoping to see some improvement.

  • 253. WRECk  |  March 23, 2015 at 2:25 pm

    @otdad… How long didbyour child test? What tier are you?

  • 254. LynnJ  |  March 23, 2015 at 2:28 pm

    @ Keller Gifted Alum – Morgan Park Academy = college tuition. 🙂 Great school of course!

  • 255. Keller Gifted Alum  |  March 23, 2015 at 2:30 pm

    @LynnJ EXACTLY. Which is why my stomach is in knots while waiting on the scores.

  • 256. 1stTimeCPSMom  |  March 23, 2015 at 2:33 pm

    Entering K.
    Tier 4
    RGC: 134
    99.9 Reading
    99.8 Math
    Offered – Skinner North

  • 257. Curiousjane  |  March 23, 2015 at 2:35 pm

    Regional: 121
    Reading: 89th
    Math: 98th
    no offers
    Tier 4
    Entering kindergarten.
    We’ll try again next year!
    (Remembering that it’s just a number and there are a lot of ways for my girl to get a stimulating and challenging education)

  • 258. lenartpoemomma  |  March 23, 2015 at 2:47 pm

    @230 I am a mother of a child at Lenart, she is currently in 4th grade and we have loved our experience there. She entered in Kindergarten and have hoped to have her younger sister join her there last year for Kndg. however, she only scored a 114 of her RGC test. She did however get a seat at Poe classical 1st week of school. It was a hard decision since she had already started at a private school but we also love it at Poe Classical. I am however confused about how the testing is done, because if I had to compare both girls, I would have put my money on my youngest daughter, she was more articulate and inquisitive at the age of the testing. But as it turned out my oldest daughter scored a 146 on the RGC. Anxiously awaiting the end of my work day to get home and check the mailbox, I had my youngest retested in hopes that she scores higher and we win the Lenart “Lottery” once more. I truthfully feel that getting a seat is like winning the lottery! Congrats to all the parents who have won the lottery today!!

  • 259. Roscoe mom  |  March 23, 2015 at 2:49 pm

    Entering 1st
    RGC 124 (down from 140 last year but was expecting that as its out of 150 and group testing setting)
    Classical – Math 99, Reading 98
    Offered Beaubien

    The weird thing is that I don’t remember even putting Beaubien down, but I honestly can’t remember what I ranked for 5th and 6th spots so maybe I did. If we reject, then she can potentially get a spot at one of the schools higher up on our list, right? Anyone have a sense of chancing of getting in to Coonley or Edison with 124 tier 4? Guessing it will be too low. We’re happy at current school so might just take the gamble.

  • 260. MaryAnne Newman  |  March 23, 2015 at 2:50 pm

    Entering Kindergarten, Tier 4
    RGC 119
    Classical: R 84% M 93%

    No offers

    Don’t remember how long he was in the testing area.

  • 261. mom of 2  |  March 23, 2015 at 2:51 pm

    reading 95
    math 95
    no offers

  • 262. mom of 2  |  March 23, 2015 at 2:52 pm

    sorry entering kindergarten RGC 140 tested for an 1 hour

  • 263. grace  |  March 23, 2015 at 2:59 pm

    notice all the tier 4 with high scores getting no offers 😦

  • 264. LUV2Europe  |  March 23, 2015 at 3:04 pm

    263 exactly how CPS tier system works.

  • 265. garveygirl  |  March 23, 2015 at 3:06 pm

    Just got our results in 60605 – tier 4

    No offers for kindergarten – 20 minutes to test
    Rgc – 130
    Reading 89 / math 74

    just wish our neighborhood school wasn’t so overcrowded. We love the S loop!

  • 266. seriously  |  March 23, 2015 at 3:11 pm

    Came home to good news for once. DS entering 5th offered Pritzker. Tier 4, score 139.

  • 267. ack  |  March 23, 2015 at 3:25 pm

    142 RGC gets no offers in for K in T4 for Edison, Coonley, etc. We’ll see about wait list but seems unlikely.

  • 268. Pandamom  |  March 23, 2015 at 3:31 pm

    Tier 4
    Entering K
    Applied skinner west and skinner north

    Reading 98
    Math 98

    No offers
    Anyone knows if we are even close.

  • 269. Time  |  March 23, 2015 at 3:34 pm

    Tier 3

    Entering 6th – RGC:149, no offer.
    Entering 3rd – RGC:134, no offer.

  • 270. Southside Tier 3 Mom  |  March 23, 2015 at 3:35 pm

    Letters in!
    RGC Score: 127
    Classical: Reading : 99 Math: 93
    Got acceptance from 2nd choice, McDade Classical.

    A few magnet neighborhood waitlists, and one offer. We will probably go with McDade.

  • 271. JLS  |  March 23, 2015 at 3:36 pm

    Entering K
    Tier 4
    RGC 120
    Math 81st
    Reading 90th
    Tested for 30 minutes
    No offers

  • 272. Southside Tier 3 Mom  |  March 23, 2015 at 3:37 pm

    She tested about 25 minutes btw. We are Tier 3, south side. I’m a h.s teacher, and our librarian’s child attends McDade already.

  • 273. oneworldkitchen  |  March 23, 2015 at 3:38 pm

    Tier 4. Entering K. Score = 134.

    Only applied to Coonley (sibling is there) and no offer.

  • 274. Claire  |  March 23, 2015 at 3:40 pm

    tier 4 RGC 145 – No offers. Anyone in tier 4 get an offer to a RGC? Just curious how far from the cut off we were. But I’m happy with our neighborhood if nothing else.

  • 275. Cooking with Claire  |  March 23, 2015 at 3:42 pm

    Follow up to my previous comment (274) Coonley was our top choice

  • 276. Ewa  |  March 23, 2015 at 3:43 pm

    @274 Claire

    is that kindergarten?

  • 277. Cooking with Claire  |  March 23, 2015 at 3:47 pm

    @276 yes that was for K

  • 278. Edgewater  |  March 23, 2015 at 3:49 pm

    In April our RGC asks if our child will be returning the following year, so you may still receive an offer. Our experience has been one or two kids leaving each year, there was one year no one left.

  • 279. ABear  |  March 23, 2015 at 3:50 pm

    @ 269 Time

    What schools did you apply to for 3rd grade? We have not received our letter yet.

  • 280. LynnJ  |  March 23, 2015 at 3:50 pm

    @ Southside Tier 3 Mom, what grade?

  • 281. Chimom2  |  March 23, 2015 at 3:52 pm

    FYI for everyone- I really was looking for this info last year and spent a lot of time scrolling down- my son tested 144 RGC in tier 4 kindergarten last year- never got off the wait list at Coonley or Edison

  • 282. rebecca  |  March 23, 2015 at 3:53 pm

    Tier 4 only applied to coonley RGC 134 no offer. happy with neighborhood school so life goes on….

  • 283. brunettechicagogal  |  March 23, 2015 at 4:02 pm

    At the risk of sounding like I think my son is the most brilliant child ever, I am astounded at how poorly he did compared to his literacy and math progress in his preK program as of last spring, when he was only 4 and his preK teacher said he was ready for kindergarten in those areas.

    RGC 121
    88th percentile reading
    68th percentile math

    Obviously no offers.

    Fortunately, we have a high-performing neighborhood school. Unfortunately, class sizes are large.

  • 284. SouthBurbs  |  March 23, 2015 at 4:02 pm

    Offered School: Carnegie
    RGC Score: 133
    Classical Scores: R-70; M-92
    Tier: 4

    We are in the South suburbs, and our tier was calculated based on our current address. We had ranked Lenart first and didn’t get the offer, so I’m wondering if 133 is high enough to go into the second round.

  • 285. Entering 1st Grade  |  March 23, 2015 at 4:03 pm

    Tier 3 – Entering 1st
    R – 99
    M -71
    No Offers.

    However, I am convinced the second time around that these are just numbers and the scores mean nothing as they had such a swing since last year.

    Kinder scores were

    Tier 3 – Entering K
    R – 44
    M – 90

    I’m also curious how the CPS testing and NWEA MAP testing should/ should not correlate since both are marked in percentile.

    Winter NWEA MAP in scores were

    R – 93
    M – 97

    Happy to remain at Skinner West neighborhood. Cannot say enough about the teachers and the program.

  • 286. IrvingParkMom  |  March 23, 2015 at 4:04 pm

    Tier 3
    RGC: 142
    R:40/M:45 (play-based preschool probably accounts for that though I wouldn’t do it differently).

    No offers. Let’s pull up our boots and make our neighborhood schools the best they can be!

  • 287. FedupwithCPS  |  March 23, 2015 at 4:08 pm

    Tier 4, applied to K, RGC 142, R 86, M 93. Applied to Coonley, have another child there. No offers. No sure how they test the reading, because my daughter can actually read, like complete sentences, and knows the entire K – 1 Dolch sight word list. My other daughter got 95 in reading when she tested for K, and she couldn’t read a word. Who knows what they’re doing in that testing room if a child who can actually read scores so low on reading.

  • 288. Barb S  |  March 23, 2015 at 4:08 pm

    Grade 1
    Tier 4
    Rgc 126, math 90, reading 99
    Offered beaubien
    Does anyone know what the low score offered was for Bell grade 1?

  • 289. not-so-tiger mom  |  March 23, 2015 at 4:09 pm

    We entered Coonley RGC in Grade 1 last year. Didn’t get letter until June. RGC score = 128. We hadn’t accepted any other offers at the time.

    I think 4 or 5 kids left after K so a few spots opened up. Hopefully this is helpful for those entering Grade 1 next year.

  • 290. Chimom2  |  March 23, 2015 at 4:09 pm

    Tier 4
    RGC: 115
    R:66 M:98
    no offers, Hawthorne waiting list #46
    If anyone has any recommendations for tutors or other to get the reading score up, please share!

  • 291. 60660  |  March 23, 2015 at 4:09 pm

    Entering 3rdG with an RGC score of 138 – no offers

    but at the bottom of the letter there’s something I have not seen before. Where it says:
    “your child’s total point score (only used for AC and IGP applicants”:
    there’s a score of 286..4
    does anyone know how this score is calculated?

  • 292. sMom  |  March 23, 2015 at 4:11 pm

    Entering K
    Tier 4

    RCG 142
    91 R/94 M
    Only applied to skinner North and obvs. no offer

  • 293. Pandamom  |  March 23, 2015 at 4:13 pm

    For grade 1st and above, how many seats come out every year? There will be very few spots available coming from students that transfer. That means if we don’t get in for K, then never basically. Is that right?

  • 294. christyaron  |  March 23, 2015 at 4:14 pm

    Tier 4, entering kindergarten, no offers
    RGC 119, Classical R 81 / M 78
    Tested for 25 minutes

  • 295. Single child mom  |  March 23, 2015 at 4:16 pm

    Letter finally arrived!!!
    Applied for 2nd grade, got accepted to Keller.
    Our 1st choice was for Skinner North then Skinner West. Not sure if should decline to get in second round? Anyone know what the chances are?
    RGC score 136
    Math 99 reading 98
    Tier 2
    Proud of my girl!

  • 296. LSmom  |  March 23, 2015 at 4:17 pm

    @Pandamom, there are a few RGCs that start in first grade (Bell, Beaubien, Keller), and Decatur sometimes adds an additional class of first graders.

  • 297. MommyKim  |  March 23, 2015 at 4:20 pm

    Tier 4 RGC 144
    Reading 95 Math 74- offered national teachers academy
    Which was our last choice.

    Skinner north

    Thinking of seeing what we get for second round. Haven’t toured NTA yet.
    If we accept at a neighborhood school and decline NTA are we still in the rounds?

  • 298. MommyKim  |  March 23, 2015 at 4:21 pm

    That’s for k

  • 299. xan  |  March 23, 2015 at 4:22 pm

    @295 Take Keller. No chance with SN since 2nd round doesn’t take tier into count. Congrats…

  • 300. Barb S  |  March 23, 2015 at 4:22 pm

    Would love to hear from current Beaubien parents about their experience. I hear that bullying may be an issue there. How would you rate their gifted program? Thanks!

  • 301. js46617  |  March 23, 2015 at 4:23 pm

    We’re Tier 4, and our son’s entering kindergarten. He spent about 45 minutes on the test and got a 145 on the RGC, Reading <99.9 and Math 99.5. That still wasn't good enough to get him into Edison or Coonley (the only places we applied)! Still, we're happy with our neighborhood school.

  • 302. NC D3  |  March 23, 2015 at 4:25 pm

    Tier 4, No offers. For all kids, applied Coonley, Bell (except the K), Edison, Skinner N., Decatur.

    Entering 3rd
    R99, M98, RGC 112

    Entering 2nd
    R99, M94, RGC 131

    Entering K (30 min. in the test)
    R84, M80, RGC 126

  • 303. brunettechicagogal  |  March 23, 2015 at 4:29 pm

    Forgot to put Tier 4 and tested for 25 minutes.

  • 304. NTA Mom  |  March 23, 2015 at 4:31 pm


    Thursday, March 26th at 6:30pm
    Monday, April 13th at 9:30am

    Tour the campus and learn more about NTA’s school and Regional Gifted Center program.

  • 305. Waiting4Superman  |  March 23, 2015 at 4:31 pm

    @295 TAKE KELLER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 306. SK Mom  |  March 23, 2015 at 4:34 pm

    Tier 4
    Entering 1st
    RGC 124

    No offer. Hoping for the second round offer at Bell.

  • 307. Robin in WRP  |  March 23, 2015 at 4:34 pm

    FedupwithCPS – does your child have a late summer birthday? We were told by (the late and missed) Mrs. Schacter of Decatur that our daughter’s late August birthday cost her a kindergarten spot

  • 308. Waiting4Superman  |  March 23, 2015 at 4:34 pm

    okay where is the mailman!!!! Why am I watching my snow covered porch steps for footprints? Sad…..

  • 309. Robin in WRP  |  March 23, 2015 at 4:36 pm

    Chimom2 – we know of three families who were very happy with Kumon

  • 310. Robin in WRP  |  March 23, 2015 at 4:38 pm

    Pandamom – Decatur does add a second class some years, it varies between K, 1 and 2. Also, some families find that a school is not the right fit for their child, or have 2-3 kids in different schools and move to the ‘burbs

  • 311. FedupwithCPS  |  March 23, 2015 at 4:40 pm

    Robin she does have a summer birthday, late July, but so does my other daughter. They also both tested 3rd week of January.

  • 312. Chris  |  March 23, 2015 at 4:42 pm

    ““your child’s total point score (only used for AC and IGP applicants”:
    there’s a score of 286..4
    does anyone know how this score is calculated?”

    That *should* be the map scores passed thru the scoring rubric–since your kid did not take the AC/IGP exam and didn’t have grades from 5th grade, which is the rest of the score. Has been true in past years.

  • 313. LearningCPS  |  March 23, 2015 at 4:46 pm

    Decatur adds an additional entry 1st grade in the years it graduates two 6th grade rooms. This year it only has one 6th grade, so the only entry year being accepted should be K. Next year I believe there will be two 6th, so there will be an additional 1st grade being accepted.

  • 314. 1stgradenow  |  March 23, 2015 at 4:48 pm

    Tier 4, applying for 1st grade

    122 offered Beaubien

    Her score seems low compared to the other Beaubien offers I’ve seen. How to know if it would be good for her or if she would struggle??? And now curious also about the bullying comment above.
    She’s in private K in a class of 16 now…

  • 315. Going to 5th grade  |  March 23, 2015 at 4:48 pm

    No offers. I’m just happy he made the cutoff. In previous years he didn’t qualify. Keeping fingers crossed!

  • 316. Sara Chum  |  March 23, 2015 at 4:52 pm

    @mommykim , you will not be disappointed by NTA !! The RGC program is GREAT 🙂

  • 317. pucker93  |  March 23, 2015 at 4:53 pm

    Tier 4, entering K, testing lasted around 35 minutes.

    RGC: 150
    Reading: 93
    Math: 96

    Offered a spot at Coonley, which was our top choice! So happy!

  • 318. Giftedmeasures  |  March 23, 2015 at 4:54 pm

    Tier 2
    Reading 99.9%
    Math 97%
    RGC 131

    Going to Poe. My 1st choice. Poe is a positive environment that develops the “whole child”. Poe not only has gifted students, but also gifted teachers who seem to have a great spirit and work hard!!

    Now she can have a normal child’s life 🙂 She ate, slept, and drank math/reading so that she wouldn’t have to go to a neighborhood school. Thank God!! I had difficulty finding a suitable private school also….I pray that all find a great school for their child, especially those in a similar predicament.

    BTW, She tested for 30 minutes, came out and the tester said she needed to take her back to the testing room. Tested for an additional 10 minutes.

  • 319. Giftedmeasures  |  March 23, 2015 at 4:57 pm

    Oh! August Bday

  • 320. kgmom  |  March 23, 2015 at 5:03 pm

    Tier 4
    RGC: 130
    Classical: 97/99
    no offers!

  • 321. Maria Castro  |  March 23, 2015 at 5:03 pm

    Entering 4th grade
    RGC Score: 128
    Total Points 290.9
    Tier 3
    No offers

  • 322. SJsmom  |  March 23, 2015 at 5:03 pm

    No offers.
    RGC: 139.
    Reading: 65 and Math: 80.
    Tested for about 20 minutes.

  • 323. Waiting4Superman  |  March 23, 2015 at 5:04 pm

    no mail yet

  • 324. Offered Lenart  |  March 23, 2015 at 5:06 pm

    Tier 3, RGC score of 145, daughter accepted to Lenart. Was in the test about 35 minutes. Very happy! Our son is currently in K at Lenart and he really loves it. We’ve been really happy with the administration and the K teacher.

  • 325. nadja2  |  March 23, 2015 at 5:09 pm

    No mail yet in 60612 area. Sigh….anyone else in 60612 still waiting?

  • 326. Happy mom2015  |  March 23, 2015 at 5:10 pm

    Can anyone tell that 137 is good enough to get into Edison and Bell in 4th grade? How many spots do they have open for 4thgrade? Any idea????pls provide the info on that . Also, Someone told me last year that they add more seats in 4th grade. Is this true ???many thanks and good luck to all the parents .

  • 327. SkinnerMama  |  March 23, 2015 at 5:11 pm

    @nadja – Our mail carrier hasn’t come yet in 60612 either. How is this possible that on the one day I so desperately want the mail, it’s nowhere to be found?

  • 328. LynnJ  |  March 23, 2015 at 5:12 pm

    @ Giftedmeasures and Offered Lenart. What grades? Shall we assume Kindergarten?

  • 329. nts  |  March 23, 2015 at 5:16 pm

    Applied for 5th grade and got Coonley RGC.

    We were not able to attend the open house and I am trying to find out more about the school – classroom sizes, how are the teachers, what’s the curriculum like, homework load, learning environment …

    Any current Coonley moms & dads that can help me please? Thanks 🙂

  • 330. Giftedmeasures  |  March 23, 2015 at 5:18 pm

    Sorry! Kindergarten

  • 331. LPParents  |  March 23, 2015 at 5:19 pm

    Tier 4
    RGC 128
    Classical R 93 M 98
    No offers

  • 332. Tier4Mom  |  March 23, 2015 at 5:21 pm

    Tier 4
    Gifted= 147
    Classical= Reading 99.9 Math=69
    Offered Pritzker

    Please please please can anyone give me the scoop on the Pritzker…. it was not my top choice. I was hoping for Edison.


  • 333. NC Dad  |  March 23, 2015 at 5:24 pm

    @288, lowest score I heard for 1st grade Bell last year was 126.

    @259, I also heard mid 120’s for Coonley 1st grade last year.

    Both of those were off of the wait list very late in the summer, so depending on how many slots Coonley has open I would say there is a shot but you would likely have to wait quite a while to find out.

  • 334. Second time around...  |  March 23, 2015 at 5:24 pm

    Can’t say enough good things about Beaubien. I have a 5th grade daughter there. We have not had any school bullying problems. Teachers and principal are amazing. Most of the parents are friendly and supportive.

  • 335. SouthLoop80  |  March 23, 2015 at 5:27 pm

    Testing into kindergarten, took about 20 min to test.
    Tier 4
    RGC 160
    Classical Reading 91 percent
    Classical Math 85 percent
    Offer made from NTA’s RGC.

    For the RGC score, it’s 160 out of what? 200? Having trouble finding that info quickly.

  • 336. UV  |  March 23, 2015 at 5:28 pm

    So I am beyond bummed at the moment. My child scored as follows:

    Reading: 98%
    Math: 98%
    Tier 4
    RGC: 134

    No offers at any of the SEES schools I applied to. I am not sure what we will do now as our neighborhood school is not the best.

  • 337. Robin in WRP  |  March 23, 2015 at 5:29 pm

    I can tell you that the current Decatur administration has handled bullying very badly in the past

  • 338. ka  |  March 23, 2015 at 5:29 pm

    UV – you must have also ‘played the lottery’ in addition to the SEES?

  • 339. ruthcrisler  |  March 23, 2015 at 5:33 pm

    Someone asked whether a child’s birth month was a factor. The answer is yes. In fact, the scores are all subtly calibrated according to birthdate. Otherwise, they could not achieve the necessary level if stratification. I inquired about this last year, when I was trying to figure out how a ten (or so) question test could possibly result in a score of 142, versus 141 or 143. Think about it.

  • 340. Southside Tier 3 Mom  |  March 23, 2015 at 5:34 pm

    @ 280 Lynn J. She is entering Kindergarten.

  • 341. frannyglass79  |  March 23, 2015 at 5:34 pm

    Entering K, Tier 3

    RGC: 106
    Math: 72%
    Reading: 78%

    Obviously no offers from SEES schools. But got 1 offer at LaSalle II for magnet. I don’t know much about LaSalle II – any feedback would be much appreciated.

  • 342. UV  |  March 23, 2015 at 5:35 pm

    @338 Yes, but waitlisted at about 15 schools.

  • 343. Waitaminute  |  March 23, 2015 at 5:35 pm

    Entering 3rd
    R 99 /M 99 score 300
    No offer

  • 344. @Waitaminute  |  March 23, 2015 at 5:43 pm

    For 3rd grade schools may not know how many students are returning until closer to the end of the year and even after. Hopefully you will get a call. What schools did you apply to?

  • 345. Beaubien mom  |  March 23, 2015 at 5:43 pm

    My son is in first grade at Beaubien gifted. he loves it and has made lots friends. No issues with bulling so far.

  • 346. 1moreSouthSider  |  March 23, 2015 at 5:46 pm

    Didn’t realize I was still following this blog until I started getting notices recently. I went through the process last year and after reading all the posts, I’m having flashbacks (nightmares) on how much of a crazy lady I was with during this time. I too stayed home from work, waiting on the mailman…and while I was at work, I was glued to this blog.

    I received several magnet and open enrollment offers right away, and before the summer was out had received a 2 RGC offers. Ended up at NTA and I am extremely pleased with my final decision! Daughter is thriving well at NTA (in K and tracking on 2nd grade level in some areas). We also have friends from pre-K who are very happy at their magnets. It’s been said before, but important to reiterate…it all works out in the end! #ntaproud

  • 347. lauren  |  March 23, 2015 at 5:48 pm

    We are tier 4 and my daughter had 99 reading and 97 math- no offers. Do you have to have 99 on both??

  • 348. @frannyglass79  |  March 23, 2015 at 5:50 pm

    LaSalle II will be hosting an Open House on Tuesday, March 31st at 3:30pm and at 5:00pm. These events will be an opportunity for prospectives families to learn more about the school. Each session will consist of a brief presentation and a tour of the school.

    No reservation is required. Enter the school at the main entrance at 1148 N Honore St.

    Please note we are not able to accommodate requests for private tours.

  • 349. grace  |  March 23, 2015 at 5:54 pm

    @341 we got lasalle II last year but didnt take it….didnt have the after school program i needed and it jsut didnt have a warm family feel during our tour

  • 350. grace  |  March 23, 2015 at 5:55 pm

    @336 UV-what is your neighborhood school?

  • 351. Tier4Mom  |  March 23, 2015 at 5:57 pm

    My daughter just got accepted to Pritzker (not top choice) for kindergarden. Can anyone please give me some scoop on the school. Please please please. Thank you.
    Gifted score = 147
    Tier 4
    R= 99.9 M=69

  • 352. Tier 1 Woodlawn mom  |  March 23, 2015 at 5:58 pm

    No mail, yet – we are in Tier 1. The waiting is painful!

  • 353. UV  |  March 23, 2015 at 6:00 pm


  • 354. mommyoftwo  |  March 23, 2015 at 6:02 pm

    Reading= 99
    Maths= 97
    Tier 4
    1st grade
    No offered 🙂

  • 355. relieved parent  |  March 23, 2015 at 6:07 pm

    tier 2
    rgc score 125
    math: 99; reading: 99.5

    got offer from Decatur – was fourth choice after Edison, Coonley, Pritzker.

    i am relieved that we got an offer and confused about how there can be such a big discrepancy between the classical score and the RGC score.

    we also have a pretty high wait list number for a couple of good magnet schools. so it seems like we’ll have some options for sure.

  • 356. relieved parent  |  March 23, 2015 at 6:07 pm

    forgot to say – entering K

  • 357. alek  |  March 23, 2015 at 6:09 pm

    my son just got accepted to NTA
    RGC Score – 144
    Classical – R-97, M-98

    Any thoughts from mom/dad who might already have their kids at the NTA gifted program from prior year? have heard absolutely conflicted things about the school. Thank you!

  • 358. jano  |  March 23, 2015 at 6:09 pm

    Reading 97
    Math 91
    RGC 143

    Tier 4

    Offer at NTA was hoping for Coonley.

  • 359. Tina  |  March 23, 2015 at 6:11 pm

    Tier 4, entering 4th grade.

    RGC: 149, got an offer from Coonley.

    DS had studied in 3 different schools since Kindergarten due to family relocations, felt so sorry about that. Hope he could have a stable several years from now on.

  • 360. TPick  |  March 23, 2015 at 6:13 pm

    Tier 3

    RGC Score 144
    Classical Math 91 Reading 99


    Wait List
    Sheridan 3
    Lasalle 6
    Murray 9
    Newberrry 37
    Skinner 225 Ha ha

    Tested for 25 minutes
    NTA it is !

  • 361. TigerDad  |  March 23, 2015 at 6:13 pm

    Tier 4
    RGC 139
    No offers

    Class – entering 3rd grade

    Any insight please?
    Any chance of 2nd round?
    Help please?

  • 362. mom of 2 from Beaubien  |  March 23, 2015 at 6:14 pm

    I just wanted to weigh in on Beaubien. We had 2 children go through the options program there- one is currently at Northside and the other Lane AC. We loved the program. There is a wonderful teacher community there. The math program is fantastic. A great parent community has developed. There have been some issues on the playground – but they have been proactive in addressing. Overall our kids really had a wonderful experience.

  • 363. Robin in WRP  |  March 23, 2015 at 6:14 pm

    If you can, go to an LSC meeting; it’s a great way to get insight to the parent community, and the school

  • 364. Waitaminute  |  March 23, 2015 at 6:14 pm

    Only applied SN

  • 365. Tier4Mom  |  March 23, 2015 at 6:16 pm

    @355 I noticed one of your choices was Pritzker… my daughter gat an offer there. Do you know anything about it?

  • 366. KRV  |  March 23, 2015 at 6:19 pm

    RGC: 131
    Reading: 77
    Math: 99
    Tier 4

    No offers.

  • 367. TPick  |  March 23, 2015 at 6:20 pm

    @Alek what conflicting things did you hear re: NTA I’ve only heard great things. Please do tell.

  • 368. 2ndtimearound  |  March 23, 2015 at 6:21 pm

    Letter just arrived, 863, tier 4, accepted to Lane! I am not surprised the numbers jumped, so many kids want these seats. Good reason to add more schools!

  • 369. TigerDad  |  March 23, 2015 at 6:21 pm

    can anyone tell me how many seats there are typically in 3rd grade RGC thx

  • 370. happy@nta  |  March 23, 2015 at 6:22 pm

    Congratulations to everyone receiving offers, and congratulations to everyone for doing the absolute best you can for your children, this thread always inspires me. 🙂
    @357. alek and any others asking about NTA: our daughter is in the RGC Kindergarten this year and we could not be happier. We’ve had a tremendously positive experience, can’t wait to welcome others to the school. I don’t really have a standard for comparison, but in terms of academics, facilities, quality of instructions and instructors, extracurriculars, etc. we have been consistently pleased. I hope you’ll consider coming to one of the upcoming open houses:
    March 26th 6:30 pm
    April 13th 9:30 am

  • 371. WRECk  |  March 23, 2015 at 6:23 pm

    My dd tested for 5th grade no offers her scorre was 725 what does that mean?

  • 372. WRECk  |  March 23, 2015 at 6:27 pm

    Tier 3
    Math- 99.9%
    Reading- 98%
    Offered Skinner North first choice

  • 373. k and 2nd  |  March 23, 2015 at 6:32 pm

    Tier 4.
    Entering Kindergarten 149 offered Edison.
    Entering 2nd, 114 (down from 139 last year) staying at neighborhood school.

  • 374. TigerDad  |  March 23, 2015 at 6:33 pm

    Dear Editor of CPS Obsessed – there was a post – an old that gave details on what percentile each of the RGC scores related to…..can point to that post – was from the past – would say for example what percentile 160 was versus 140. Thanks a lot

  • 375. TftInChi  |  March 23, 2015 at 6:35 pm

    Got a letter with no offers (REALLY high waitlist numbers of 270 and up, in tier 4). But, mysteriously, I see no mention of test scores at all. Did everyone get those in a second letter or is there something weird going on here?

  • 376. cpsobsessed  |  March 23, 2015 at 6:36 pm

    @tigerdad -hm, I don’t recall it but I can take a look. I’m out of the house now so it might be a day or 2. I’ll see what I can find. Anyone with free time, there is a main post for RGC news this time each year — it is likely in the comment section of one of those.

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  • 377. mamikatabum  |  March 23, 2015 at 6:37 pm

    My son applying for kindergarten, was testing for about 20 minutes. He has autism and CP and the IEP was never put in place. When I asked about it, they told me that the tester will “do her best to keep him engaged”. Well, we finally got the letter and I am heartbroken.

    No offers. Tier 4.
    RGC Score 102
    Classical Reading 40 Math 68

    We will try again next year and hopefully he will get fair testing.

    To all of you that got a spot, Congrats!!! Have a great school year 🙂

  • 378. ack  |  March 23, 2015 at 6:38 pm

    Seems like 149 was the line for Edison and maybe Coonley at T4 for K.

  • 379. cpsobsessed  |  March 23, 2015 at 6:38 pm

    @obsessedmom: I think you have a decent shot at any of those, esp if you stay on their radar. The trouble is it might not be til summer when they know who’s leaving. Or even week1 when they see who doesn’t show up. But if you have a preference, make sure the school knows who you are and that you want a spot.

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  • 380. SkinnerMama  |  March 23, 2015 at 6:40 pm

    Did anyone in 60612 receive any mail today? Our carrier hasn’t been to our house yet. Believe me, I’ve been waiting and watching.

  • 381. mamikatabum  |  March 23, 2015 at 6:42 pm

    @relievedparent , you will love Decatur!!! We have a daughter there and it has been an amazing school year in a great community.

  • 382. NewtoCPS  |  March 23, 2015 at 6:43 pm

    Tier 4
    Entering K
    Tested for 35 min
    RGC 142
    Classical: M92 R78
    No offers from SEES (or from any magnet schools either)
    Bummed. Ok with our neighborhood school but would have liked to have had some options.

  • 383. RogersParkMama  |  March 23, 2015 at 6:45 pm

    My son has autism and an IEP and he got a RGC 90 Classical reading 81 and math 72. He didn’t get a SEES seat of course and I’m fine with that, because I want him to be comfortable wherever he ends up! I’m happy with his scores considering I was once worried he’d never be verbal!

  • 384. NorthSideMama  |  March 23, 2015 at 6:46 pm

    ACE THIS QUESTION: What’s the top score you can get for RGC testing? Anyone know?

  • 385. Cooking with Claire  |  March 23, 2015 at 6:47 pm

    317. pucker93 | March 23, 2015 at 4:53 pm

    Tier 4, entering K, testing lasted around 35 minutes.

    RGC: 150
    Reading: 93
    Math: 96

    Offered a spot at Coonley, which was our top choice! So happy!

    Thank for this post. It answered my question as we were also tier 4, entering k, Coonley as our top choice, and tested a 145 and we did not get accepted.
    Therefore I’ll ask another question to the group… With a difference of only 5 points do we have a decent chance of a second round offer?

  • 386. pusanpa@hotmail.com  |  March 23, 2015 at 6:49 pm

    Tested for 1st R-99 M-97 RGC-119
    No offer

  • 387. cpsobsessed  |  March 23, 2015 at 6:54 pm

    @cooking – are you tier 4? If so, if the coonley cutoff is 149 I’d say144 is unlikely. the scores have really escalated there.

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  • 388. Taylormom  |  March 23, 2015 at 6:54 pm

    Tier 3
    RGC: 144
    Reading 93/ math 76
    Offered Prtizker RGC

    Also offered Galileo as a magnet/ sibling lottery (very happy there)

    Like others, can someone give some experiences on life at Prtizker RGC? Thanks!

  • 389. LostInTranslation  |  March 23, 2015 at 6:54 pm

    @385 Cooking with Claire – based on previous years, 145 won’t get you a second round offer for Coonley. However, you are in with a decent chance later in the summer. I’m not sure how low Coonley went last year, but the 2 years before that both went down to 144.
    There is a surprising amount of movement over the summer and even into the first couple of weeks of term. My child’s RGC class started with 4 empty seats after Labor Day!

  • 390. SKB  |  March 23, 2015 at 6:56 pm

    K Tier 3
    RGC 115
    Classical 78 reading / 92 Math
    November Birthday
    No offers. [did get a magnet offer]
    I am still proud of my kid!

  • 391. bridgeport mom  |  March 23, 2015 at 7:04 pm

    tier 2, 1 st grade : RGC 130. got offer at Bell.

    Currently in hawthorne. Looked at the school ranking and saw bell is 44 at IL. any insights about bell RGC? Do we need to stay at hawthorne or decline and go to second round?

  • 392. Drida  |  March 23, 2015 at 7:05 pm

    Tier 3
    RGC: 142
    Reading: 88
    Math: 93
    25 min testing

    No SEES offers.

    Lottery offer: Hawthorne, Solomon and Chappell. Waitlisted under 10 at Audubon!

  • 393. ruthie60607  |  March 23, 2015 at 7:08 pm

    Score: 135 and Reading 97/Math 99.9
    Tier: 3
    Offer from Skinner West, which is our first choice. Also received an offer from Franklin. We feel very fortunate to have this dilemma.

  • 394. WRECk  |  March 23, 2015 at 7:08 pm

    @ cpsobsessed
    My daughter in in fourth grade testing for fifth grade and scored 730 what does that mean? Its not percent or rgc number like sonim thrown off????? Thanks in advance for ur wealth of knowledge

  • 395. TiredDad  |  March 23, 2015 at 7:10 pm

    60631 – no mail at all! Anyone else in the same boat?

  • 396. WRECk  |  March 23, 2015 at 7:11 pm

    @ tireddad were 60631 and got ours
    # blessed

  • 397. confusedboutthescores  |  March 23, 2015 at 7:11 pm

    @relieved Parent. I too am confused. My son’s difference between scores is even bigger.

    RGC 109
    Reading 99 and Math 99

    He was accepted into Skinner North (entering 1st) but our first choice was Bell. That difference in scores makes no sense to me. It is very hard for me to believe he could do so well on the Classical Test and so poorly on the RGC – that seems to be the highest difference in test scores on of this thread.

    He scored in the 99.9 percentile on one (which was required for Skinner North) and scored just above the 50th on the other? Something is not right here.

  • 398. Melanie  |  March 23, 2015 at 7:14 pm

    tier 4, k
    tested about 20 minutes
    rgc 160
    r/93 m/95

    offer from Coonley – first choice

    wait listed 42 Hawthorne – which was our top choice for magnet

    We are very happy with the Coonley offer (we’re just outside their neighborhood boundaries). But we really liked Hawthorne when we toured. We are in the Ravenswood area, and I would be happy sending him there. We’re lucky to have options.

    On another note, the most recent This American Life discusses the disparity between a private and public school in the Bronx and the impact that has on children. It’s quite an interesting listen: http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/550/three-miles

  • 399. bridgeport mom  |  March 23, 2015 at 7:19 pm

    @397: skinner north is better than bell in my opinion. why bell is your first choice?

  • 400. ScoreInfo  |  March 23, 2015 at 7:22 pm

    @335/SouthLoop80: 160 is the highest possible score. I assume NTA was your top RGC choice? (Based on scores, your child is unlikely to get an offer at a classical school (e.g., Skinner West, Skinner North).)

  • 401. nadja2  |  March 23, 2015 at 7:28 pm

    @380 SkinnerMama. Yes I did finally get mail….and I got my letters. No offers.

  • 402. otdad  |  March 23, 2015 at 7:29 pm

    @256. 1stTimeCPSMom
    @372. WRECk

    Congratulations! Welcome to Skinner North. Hope our kids get along 🙂

    After driving to/from the school for almost 2 years, I really appreciate the fact that Skinner North has ample parking. (the visitor parking lot and the Target parking lot), a luxury comparing with most CPS schools at drop off/picking up time.

    Another thing is: the school is directly connected to Stanton Park. Kids have plenty space to run around.

  • 403. chicagocliff  |  March 23, 2015 at 7:30 pm

    Where exactly is everyone finding their test scores? Are they on the letter with the School/Result/Queue/Waitlist Number tables? Or a separate letter or piece of paper?

    I just can’t find our son’s test scores. We have the paper with the school statuses, but can’t find the scores. I’ve been searching online for any more information on this and am coming up empty. Thanks for any additional info.

  • 404. SkinnerMama  |  March 23, 2015 at 7:32 pm

    @nadja2, Glad to hear you got your letter; so sorry you didn’t get an offer. Sadly, we still have not received any mail today. It’s been torture all day.

  • 405. pritzkermom  |  March 23, 2015 at 7:34 pm

    for those asking about pritzker, we’ve been there four years. Though it was not our first choice at the time we feel so greatful our daughter ended up there. A wonderful parent community. Committed and dedicated teachers and an arts curriculum that is amazing.

  • 406. Nevernottired  |  March 23, 2015 at 7:34 pm

    60631 still no mail! Driving me crazy!

  • 407. Pugster2009  |  March 23, 2015 at 7:35 pm

    1st grade
    Tier 4
    Reading – 99
    Math – 98
    No offers
    Applied to SN, Dec, Edison, Bell, Coonley, and SW

    Any thoughts as to chances in second round?

  • 408. JLP in LSq  |  March 23, 2015 at 7:39 pm

    Entering K
    Tier 4
    RGC – 143
    Reading – 93
    Math – 83
    No offers at Edison, Coonley, Skinner or Pritzker.

    Hoping Pritzker could be an option for Round 2. No magnet offers either, FWIW.

  • 409. momofmany  |  March 23, 2015 at 7:39 pm

    For all of those inquiring about Pritzker: The upper grades 5-8th RGCs are academically very solid. The school has many before and after school classes along with childcare. The arts (drama, art, music, etc.) programming is extensive and well done. The facilities are dated and leave a lot to be desired. The Spanish program is abysmal. I have no first hand experience with the lower grades.

  • 410. JLP in LSq  |  March 23, 2015 at 7:40 pm

    Oops. That was RGC 134 on #408. Typing too fast!

  • 411. TiredDad  |  March 23, 2015 at 7:46 pm

    Should we just give up for today? Or is there still hope that the mail will be here ? I have never had a day without mail – at least some junk and today of all days – nothing!

  • 412. andersonvillemom  |  March 23, 2015 at 7:46 pm

    Entering K
    RGC 114
    Math 78
    Reading 99.9
    Waitlist #11 at Disney II and #54 at Hawthorne
    Is there a possibility with these wait list numbers for any of the magnet schools?

  • 413. Jill  |  March 23, 2015 at 7:46 pm

    1st grade
    Rgc 140
    R/88. M/80 way down from last year
    Offered Edison

    Anyone have any insight/information about Edison to help me make a decision. Also does accepting a rgc school stop consideration for magnet lottery school. We are on waitlist number 12 for a school that I am interested in. Thanks.

  • 414. ruthcrisler  |  March 23, 2015 at 7:50 pm

    For those of you who have RGC tested the same child multiple years, how similar were the scores from year to year?

  • 415. nervousmom  |  March 23, 2015 at 7:51 pm

    as expected my mailman never came today.
    Can any one tell me how long you have to accept an offer if you receive one?
    Does it say on your letter?

  • 416. lincoln square dad  |  March 23, 2015 at 7:52 pm

    Never going to understand this testing. Our daughter:

    Going into 1st
    R: 99%
    Math 68%

    She’s the youngest in her current gifted program (late Aug birthday) and scored 99+% on NWEA both times. We’re happy with her current school, but would be nice to have both kids at the same location / schedule. Too bad we can’t swap with someone. Really wondering what happened in that test.

  • 417. SkinnerMama  |  March 23, 2015 at 7:53 pm

    @nervousmom #415 – what zip are you in? ours never came either. we’re 60612. my bff got the letter for her daughter and it said they had until April 14th or something like that.

  • 418. MayerVSedison  |  March 23, 2015 at 7:54 pm

    We got an offer at Edison
    Tier 2, 142

    We just got off the wait list at Oscar Mayer- #6 in January and will likely stay there, he’s happy, there is sibling preference….etc etc

    Good luck everyone!

  • 419. nervousmom  |  March 23, 2015 at 8:00 pm

    @417 SkinnerMama

    60642 around Milwaukee/Chicago aves
    I can’t believe Im still stalking the mailbox…
    and we have to wait until at least thursday if they don’t arrive

  • 420. Angie  |  March 23, 2015 at 8:06 pm

    @375. TftInChi: “Got a letter with no offers (REALLY high waitlist numbers of 270 and up, in tier 4). But, mysteriously, I see no mention of test scores at all.”

    Sounds like you have a magnet school letter? What schools do you have on wait list?

  • 421. nervousmom  |  March 23, 2015 at 8:07 pm

    @417 SkinnerMama

    looks like you are just south of my zip code neighborhood. Lets hope for a moonlight mail delivery!

  • 422. Single child mom  |  March 23, 2015 at 8:10 pm

    Can anyone give some feedback on Keller? How’s the area and any after school program?

  • 423. SuburbanMom  |  March 23, 2015 at 8:14 pm

    Amen to that. For the record, I have been looking out the window since 4.30 :(.

  • 424. ruthcrisler  |  March 23, 2015 at 8:21 pm

    SkinnerMama, I’m 60612 and no letter yet, as well.

  • 425. Offered Lenart  |  March 23, 2015 at 8:25 pm

    @328 Yes our offer was for K at Lenart. Score was 145, tier 3.

  • 426. 3  |  March 23, 2015 at 8:25 pm

    @379 @confusedboutthescores

    Congrats on Skinner! With our kids at Bell,, we dreamed of your luck for our youngest. First grade is our strength, but it’s a quick spiral right after. We’re still hoping.

  • 427. SkinnerMama  |  March 23, 2015 at 8:29 pm

    So frustrating to see everyone else’s results and not get ours. If they don’t come tomorrow I’m gonna go loony. 🙂 I truly don’t understand why the results aren’t posted online in our child’s profile. We register for these tests online; the offers and scores should also be posted there. It’d save a ton of money on paper, printing, postage, envelope stuffing, etc… And even if they still want to continue with the antiquated method of using snail mail, that shouldn’t stop them from also posting the data electronically in our kids’ profiles. I’m just tired and cranky from waiting all day staring out my front window longingly.

  • 428. Keller Gifted Alum  |  March 23, 2015 at 8:31 pm

    Tier 4 1st grader

    RGC score 113 (so much for Keller)
    Classical reading 99
    Classical math 80

    No offers.

    How promising is wait list #29 for 1st grade at Kellogg?

    Sipping wine and looking at private schools…

  • 429. TftInChi  |  March 23, 2015 at 8:31 pm

    @420 Agie.

    Ah, yes. That is absolutely it…says magnet right at the top. I was expecting everything in one letter, I guess. 😛 Thanks for the heads up.

    One more day of waiting it would seem (at least!).

  • 430. CPS mom too  |  March 23, 2015 at 8:32 pm

    Tier 3, RGC 132,kindergarten. No offers. Really hoping for NTA (first choice) in a later round so dd can join her big sister. Or maybe we’ll take big sis’ Disney offer and get them in the same school the year after next. Decisions! She tested for 20 minutes.

    Tier 3 classical, entering 2nd grade 98 math, 99 reading. No offers.

  • 431. Out of the Game  |  March 23, 2015 at 8:39 pm

    @427 Have you contacted the school’s Principals? They should have the lists now.

  • 432. JHB  |  March 23, 2015 at 8:40 pm

    Tier 4, entering K
    RGC: 123
    Reading: 99.9
    Math: 99.7
    Tested for about 45 min
    Offered Skinner North (1st choice)

  • 433. AE  |  March 23, 2015 at 8:41 pm

    @ruthcrisler re: post 414. I’ve been playing this game for awhile (oldest is in the AC at Lane), and I’ve seen a fairly significant point spread for all of my kids on the RGC test. Oldest has scores ranging from 125-137; middle from 109-125; and youngest from 113-130. At least for my kiddos, scores seem variable. Have no data re: classical testing over the years…

    Test scores this year:
    Entering 2nd
    RGC 124
    No offers, of course

  • 434. jokatz2  |  March 23, 2015 at 8:41 pm

    Got an offer at Bell for 1st grade. Reading 99, Math 97.

    Thoughts? He is current at LaSalle 1 and has a sister who is almost 3.

  • 435. jokatz2  |  March 23, 2015 at 8:42 pm

    Tier 3

  • 436. momtoBAK  |  March 23, 2015 at 8:42 pm

    Entering 3rd
    Tier 3
    RGC not great
    R 99/M 76
    No SEES offers but got some good magnet options!

  • 437. datanerd  |  March 23, 2015 at 8:45 pm

    Thank you to all the parents sharing the test time duration for their child as well as the grade/scores/tiers. For tonight it is fascinating. I will put together a simple matrix when more data comes in this week…
    thank you!

  • 438. ruthcrisler  |  March 23, 2015 at 8:46 pm

    @jokatz2, Bell looks at the RG score. What was that?

  • 439. Robin in WRP  |  March 23, 2015 at 8:50 pm

    My daughter went to Decatur, but Lasalle was our first choice; we loved the idea of her graduating fluent in a second language

  • 440. ruthcrisler  |  March 23, 2015 at 8:51 pm

    @AE, thanks. I really wonder how accurate an IQ-type test could be at 4 or 5 years old, especially given how few questions are presented. Can’t help but think a lot must ride on how the child happens to be feeling that day and so forth.

  • 441. ProudKellerMom  |  March 23, 2015 at 8:58 pm

    @422 Single child mom. Welcome to Keller!!!! Keller is located in a residential area of Mt. Greenwood. From what I notice most traffic is from the parents and students of Keller. You are so lucky to come in as a 1st grader. The 1st grade teacher is fantastic. She is a great introduction to Keller. The principal usually host a new parent orientation. So look out for mail or email from Keller. Keller offers some afterschool activities but the majority of them are over by 4:15 pm. For 1st graders a big draw is Soccer. You will received info regarding Soccer sign up over the summer. Once again welcome. Keller is a great place. BTW, I am the proud parent of a Keller 4th grader.

  • 442. lionking  |  March 23, 2015 at 8:59 pm

    Tier 4
    RGC 144
    R 99.6 M 99
    35 mins to do the test

    offered skinner west (1st choice).

    We are really proud of our little girl especially since she had major brain surgery in Sept and did the test in Dec..

  • 443. lionking  |  March 23, 2015 at 9:00 pm

    forgot to mention it was K

  • 444. Kwyjibo  |  March 23, 2015 at 9:03 pm

    Tier 4
    RGC 153

  • 445. cpsnwmom  |  March 23, 2015 at 9:09 pm

    Tier 3
    Entering K
    RGC 134
    R 89
    M 79
    No offers

  • 446. 3  |  March 23, 2015 at 9:25 pm

    We would pull our youngest from Bell’s RGC if we get a Hawthorne spot. Like I said earlier, first grade is fantastic. After that it’s years of inconsistency, shaming, and a dismissive administration. If you make it to seventh grade, the teacher is great also.

  • 447. mick  |  March 23, 2015 at 9:27 pm

    Of the parents whose kids were entering K – how many with high scores did test prep of some kind?

  • 448. DrJohn  |  March 23, 2015 at 9:29 pm

    Tier 4, K
    RGC 148
    Read 93, Math 95
    Tested 25 minutes

    Offer to Pritzker, 3rd on list after Edison, Coonley

    Did not get to tour Pritzker, have to find out info on it now.

    Thoughts on whether 148 would be high enough to get offer in later rounds to either Edison or Coonley?

    BTW, we’re in play-based pre-school and she loves it. Do not feel that this has deterred her in any way, and based on scores, seems that way too.

    Very happy Dada!

  • 449. Drida  |  March 23, 2015 at 9:38 pm

    Just heard of a friend who was accepted at Edison with a 148, so I think it’s still a possibility for your daughter.

  • 450. FedupwithCPS  |  March 23, 2015 at 9:41 pm

    DrJohn, 3 yrs ago my daughter got accepted in K at Coonley with 147 (tier 4) but 3rd round offer. That happened in June.

  • 451. lisa  |  March 23, 2015 at 9:43 pm

    I think I only applied to Pritzker. The letter Said My daughters scores didnt qualify her for SEES. Is that another way of saying she didnt make first round? Confusing. RGC score 144. Tier 4. Am going to send her to the neighborhood school anyway. Just wasnt sure how to interpret the letter

  • 452. West Loop parent  |  March 23, 2015 at 9:49 pm

    Entering K.
    Tier 4
    RGC: 138
    Classical: R 99.8, M: 99
    Offered: Skinner West (1st choice)
    Magnet Offered: Hawthorne, Andrew Jackson, Franklin; All other magnets are over #200!!

    Feel extremely ecstatic and very blessed! May bring my positive spirit and luck to all of you!!!

  • 453. MomOfTwo  |  March 23, 2015 at 9:50 pm

    Tier 4
    entering K
    RCG: 131
    reading: 80 math 95
    No offers

    And just because it is interesting, my little one tested at NW Center for Talent Development just a week before the CPS Test. He scored 137 and Reading 94 and Math 79.

  • 454. Kwyjibo  |  March 23, 2015 at 9:57 pm

    @447 No prep for us; 63 reading, 61 math to back up that statement. Very proud of our daughter scoring RGC 153.

  • 455. Tier4Mom  |  March 23, 2015 at 9:59 pm

    I think Pritzker is having an open house for parents and prospective students this Saturday… will call in the morning to confirm. There was something about it in their Facebook page.

  • 456. mcb  |  March 23, 2015 at 10:05 pm

    Tier 4, K
    RGC 155
    Read 93, Math 99
    Tested 30 minutes

    Accepted to Coonley

    Did about 15-20 minutes a night of test prep 5 days a week through Testing Mom for about 6 weeks.

  • 457. Rebecca  |  March 23, 2015 at 10:09 pm

    @Tier4mom – we love Pritzker! Our DD is now in 2nd grade there. There are wonderful teachers in the RGC. Principal is a hot mess, but she is manageable. Do take it. You will be pleased!

  • 458. Mommyof1  |  March 23, 2015 at 10:10 pm

    @ single child mom

    Welcome to Keller! To piggy back what the 4th grade parent said, Keller is a wonderful school with dedicated teachers and staff. My daughter is in first grade. The 1st grade teacher is warm, approachable, and very in tune with her students. There is also very high parental involvement, and the administration welcomes this. We are extremely happy with this school, and again welcome ☺.

  • 459. Chi chica  |  March 23, 2015 at 10:18 pm

    We got the lottery letter but nothing about SEES. No offers from 5 schools in the lottery. Are there two letters? The suspense is killing me!

  • 460. Kaylea  |  March 23, 2015 at 10:24 pm

    Kinder, Tier3 – 127 and 96/80. No offers.

    2nd Grade, Tier3 – 120 and 99/94. No offers. RGC score is down this year, but percentiles are up. What a system!

  • 461. Tier4Mom  |  March 23, 2015 at 10:24 pm

    @Rebecca Thanks! I’ve been online searching and reading for the past hour. I have to say I am more and more excited about all the different opportunities she’ll have there. I think the focus on testing has stripped away all the extra stuff that makes learning fun from most cps schools. It seems that Pritzker has made it a priority to keep all these extra programs in place. Can you comment on the LSC and how much of an impact it has… is it well organized and helpful?

  • 462. PRDad  |  March 23, 2015 at 10:25 pm

    Entering K, Tier 3, RGC 115, R94/M95 No Offers 🙂

  • 463. brunettechicagogal  |  March 23, 2015 at 10:30 pm

    @ChiChica, yes, there are two letters. One has your child’s RGC and classical scores; the other has your lottery info.

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  • 465. MommyKim  |  March 23, 2015 at 10:44 pm

    Oh and our k test was done in about 25 min for a score off 144 so who knows.

  • 466. SWsideProgressive  |  March 23, 2015 at 10:44 pm

    1st grade

    RGC: 136
    Classical: 98 (reading) 71 (math)

    Offered and will accept Keller (1st choice.) (pending a visit, of course!)

    Excited to connect with other Keller parents, singlechildmom, Sloopmom, and ProudKellerMom.

    Last year my child was accepted to a classical school, but we declined the offer and I’m really glad because I think she’ll fit in better at a RGC than at a Classical school.

  • 467. Barb S  |  March 23, 2015 at 10:51 pm

    We were offered spot at Beaubien for grade 1, but are 7 on wait list for Lasalle. Any thoughts on that?

  • 468. Martha Smith  |  March 23, 2015 at 11:10 pm

    @ScoreInfo Yep, NTA was our first choice, based on proximity to our home. We’re planning to go to an upcoming open house but would love to hear other parents’ experience. I know the RGC there is still young!

    Sent from my iPhone


  • 469. Eg0210  |  March 23, 2015 at 11:50 pm

    I am #11 on the wait list at south loop but I thought they were only neighborhood now. We are in hyde park. I am wondering if there is a possibility that she can be accepted even though we are outside of the boundaries. I find it strange that they would allow me to choose the school on the application of it wasn’t a possibility she could get in. Anyone know anything about this?

  • 470. SloopMama  |  March 23, 2015 at 11:59 pm

    @SWsideProgressive, singlechildmom, ProudKellerMom, Mommyof1 – Thank you for all of your comments/insight re: Keller!

    We’re excited about the offer but have concerns mainly due to the distance of the school from our home (South Loop), and because we do love our neighborhood school (but not necessarily the overcrowding). Can any Keller parents lend insight re: commuting students? Do most students live on the far south/southwest side of the city? Any experience with students who commute from downtown/north of downtown? I know Keller is a great school, I just worry that the commute might kill us (or me!).

    Thanks in advance. Hope some of us can connect offline, I look forward to visiting Keller and meeting other parents/families!

  • 471. wadhwakomal  |  March 24, 2015 at 12:09 am

    Reading 96 math 80
    Got offered at Decatur but its too far, any chances of getting into skinner north or west, pls suggest.

  • 472. also..  |  March 24, 2015 at 12:12 am

    @ wadhwakomal, what tier?

  • 473. wadhwakomal  |  March 24, 2015 at 12:20 am

    Tier 1
    Reading/ math 96 & 80

    Offered at Decatur, but its very far from our place. Any chances of getting accepted in skinner north or west? …

  • 474. wadhwakomal  |  March 24, 2015 at 12:21 am

    Tier 1
    Forgot to mention tier earlier…

  • 475. Marie  |  March 24, 2015 at 1:21 am

    We got our results today but I’m not sure I understand my daughter’s results. She is in 3rd grade currently and her Regional Gifted Center score is 94, her Classical School score is 37 in reading and 62 in math, and the Reginal Gifted Centers/Academic Centers/International Gifted Program score is (5-8) and her total point score is 206.1. She is an excellent student with A honor roll every quarter. I thought she would atleast qualify for one of the schools she was tested for that is not the case. The letter I received states that she was not qualifed for any of the schools we applied for. Can anyone who knows about these results help me understand, I am new to this whole selective enrollment process?

  • 476. Lisa  |  March 24, 2015 at 2:47 am

    Hi all. Just a few thoughts after testing our kids for several years now. Originally, we were in Tier 2 and this year we are Tier 3. Tiers only matter for the first year or opening grade year (i.e. K for most schools and 1st for Bell and Beaubien).

    Our son, who is currently in 3rd was offered Skinner North in the first round for Kindergarten with scores of 99.8 (reading) and 99 (math), but his RGC score was just average at 108. It was confusing to me too. We took Skinner North and have been extremely happy there and very impressed with the principal, teachers and instruction for the past 3.5 yrs.

    We’ve tested our son every year since and now, our daughter, trying to get them into the same school. In our experience, I would not put too much stock in the RGC score, which can really move around. I think my son improved over 30 percentage points in one year, so this is definitely not an IQ test and also is dependent for such young kids on how they are feeling that day. He received a 127 for 1st grade and got a first round offer to Bell, which we declined and later got a second round offer to Coonley, which we also declined because we are very happy with Skinner North. For 2nd Grade, his RGC was 126, for 3rd grade it was 118 and this year for 4th grade it is 138. He received offers every year to an RGC, though not on the first round. We don’t test for Classical since with are so happy with Skinner North, we would not move him to a different classical school.

    My daughter has not fared quite as well, but I am hopeful that maybe one of these years she will get in if I can spend a bit more time supplementing her regular school work. Her scores for K were 75 (reading), 98 (math) and 121 RGC. For 1st grade her scores were 97 (reading), 64 (math) and 94 RGC. This year, for 2nd grade she has a 90 (reading), 94 (math) and 113 RGC. So no offers for her on any of the years. However, she is currently at Newberry and her teachers consistently tell us (and we agree) that she is one of the brightest kids in her class, even though she is one of the youngest.

    So, please don’t label your kids based on these tests. Some kids test well and others, not as well, even some that are very smart.

    In answer to a few questions raised earlier:

    160 is the highest RGC score possible for those testing for K, 150 is the highest RGC score for those testing 1st-5th grade and may account for kids’ scores often going down in the second year.

    For Pugster – I think you likely have a chance in the 2nd or 3rd rounds to get in at one of the Skinners.

    For Andersonville mom – The magnet school application process is completely separate from the selective enrollment process. Therefore, you can accept a magnet school offer now and still stay in the pool for later rounds of offers with selective enrollment schools. Also, if you accept a magnet school now and one that is waitlisted comes open to you, you can still accept that later. If you decline a selective enrollment school now, you will still remain in the running for other selective enrollment schools, but this can be risky, as you may not get another offer. Only when you accept a selective enrollment school, do you take yourself out of the running for other selective enrollment schools.

    For Lisa at #451, an RGC score of 144 is in the qualifying range for RGC schools and I think you could get an offer at Pritzker in one of the later rounds. If you read your letter carefully, it should explain this.

    Sorry for such a long blog, but I do think that parents that continue to try and advocate for their children will eventually be offered a decent school, even if it is a magnet school and not a selective enrollment school. That is what I’ve seen amongst my peers.

  • 477. SkinnerMom  |  March 24, 2015 at 4:19 am

    For those accepted to Skinner North, welcome! You’ll get an email soon from the school, once they get their list from OAE. An open house for accepted families is on the calendar for the late afternoon of April 1.

  • 478. Snapshot  |  March 24, 2015 at 5:54 am

    Tier 2 – 113 on RGC, 82 reading, 78 math. K entry. The test lasted maybe 10 minutes and she’s the most inquisitive, creative kid I know. Then again, I have a biased opinion. We got an offer from Burr(?) We’re #6 on Edgebrook’s list, 8 on Hamilton’s and 19 on Newberry. I hope one of those work out.

    My 5th grader got into Edison in May of 2010 and I like the school quite a bit. Parents are great. We switched principals a few years ago and she’s working on modernizing things. The 4th grade teacher is the best ever.

    If you know anything about Burr or can suggest some private options in the far north side, I’m all ears.

    Enrollment letters are due back to the schools on 4/16. Is there another round of nailbiting after that?

    Good luck everyone.

  • 479. Robin in WRP  |  March 24, 2015 at 5:59 am

    If you’re looking for private options, I highly recommend http://www.npeschool.org/. It is (relatively) low priced, with an amazing parent community. Our daughter was there for K-1; most her former classmates wound up at SEHSs. The school has a strong emphasis on writing, amazing teachers, and staff; they also have before and after school programs.

  • 480. No offers  |  March 24, 2015 at 6:07 am

    @Keller Gifted Alum

    We’re in the same boat. No offers and considering our private school offer (MPA). Our wait list number for Sutherland, Kellogg and Clissold are pretty high.

  • 481. JLP in LSq  |  March 24, 2015 at 6:19 am

    @Robin in WRP/Re: North Park Elementary. We applied this year and were eventually able to find out they only made two K offers last year. They recently opened a preschool program and most kids move up. Our daughter was waitlisted for this year, so not sure they’ll be making more offers for entry at K.

  • 482. Relieved parent  |  March 24, 2015 at 6:30 am

    Robin in wrp can you talk a little more or refer me to links with discussion of bullying issues at Decatur?

  • 483. Robin in WRP  |  March 24, 2015 at 7:01 am

    Relieved – publicly, all I will say is the policy is to punish the victim equally with the bully. We were lucky; they bully’s parents were not hostile.

  • 484. Julia  |  March 24, 2015 at 7:16 am

    Tier 4
    Reading 99.6%
    Math 92

    No offers. Is there any chance of getting in later with these scores? We applied to Decatur, Skinner North and Skinner west. It seems like you have to have 98/99 in both to stand a chance. I feel so defeated.

  • 485. SuburbanMom  |  March 24, 2015 at 7:36 am

    @Julia hang in there. You will most probably get in the second round. My little one got into Decatur with Math -94 and Reading > 99.99 two years back. We were Tier 3 at that time.

  • 486. Another NTA voice  |  March 24, 2015 at 7:37 am

    Regarding the people looking for more NTA experiences. My child is in kindergarten and we are extremely happy with the school. Some things we like: The work is challenging but not overwhelming. The teacher is creative and makes school fun. The enrichment activities include 65 min. a day of swim, gym, art, digital learning and Spanish. The RGC is very diverse. Kids from many different backgrounds and experiences. That is a very good thing–wish more schools could be like that. Parents and staff are welcoming and the school facilities are fabulous. What we don’t like? Really, nothing, so far. Our neighborhood school is decent, so I suppose that would be closer to our house, but I would be worried that our child would be bored as the work at NTA is 2 grade levels above grade level.

  • 487. 1stTimeCPSMom  |  March 24, 2015 at 8:02 am

    We received offers from Disney Magnet and Skinner North. Any parents have kids at both (or one or the other) and have strong feelings about either? I’d love your thoughts.

  • 488. Lou  |  March 24, 2015 at 8:07 am

    Looking for a tutor for next year’s map (7th grade)

  • 489. Decatur Parent  |  March 24, 2015 at 8:13 am

    @ Relieved Parent – Congrats on your offer to Decatur! We have a 1st grader there and have been very happy. Our daughter loves the school. With all due respect to the experience of Robin in WRP whose child seemingly graduated from Decatur some time ago, we have not heard of or experienced a bullying problem at the school.

    The current administration has not always been beloved by parents and I can’t speak to things that happened before we started there, but we have no complaints and have felt that the principle has really made an effort over the past couple years to improve the relationship between her and parents.

  • 490. Decatur Parent  |  March 24, 2015 at 8:15 am

    RE: 489. Meant “principal”. Never post before coffee 🙂

  • 491. ConfusedMom  |  March 24, 2015 at 8:19 am

    I’m very confused with testing system. My son is currently in his neighborhood first grade and gets all As in his classes but tested 40% on reading and 80% in math for classical and 120s for gifted. Obviously no offers. Is it that he just tests badly? I’m a little discouraged with the whole system.

  • 492. Robin in WRP  |  March 24, 2015 at 8:23 am

    Julia – Don’t feel defeated! First, kindergarten and 1st grade testing are a snapshop of what kind of mood your child was in at that moment.

    My daughter’s kindergarten test was 45 minutes, and she didn’t get into Decatur until 2nd grade.

    Our friend’s son was bounced from the Decatur test (he wound up at bell for 1st grade) because when he was asked what comes after Winter, her responded March.

    My daughter was bounced from the first grade test because she couldn’t read SARA (she’d been reading chapter books since before her 5th birthday); I asked her (before I ran to the basement to cry) how she missed that, when she had two classmates with that name. She said “but mom, Sarah is spelled SARAH.

    I truly believe that kids wind up where they belong. After all of this, college drama will be a piece of cake!

  • 493. Robin in WRP  |  March 24, 2015 at 8:25 am

    1sttime – Not every school is a good fit for every kid. Classical schools are more rigid and competitive.

  • 494. Robin in WRP  |  March 24, 2015 at 8:28 am

    We have friends who had great success with Kumon, both for tutoring and enrichment. We sent our daughter to CTD for enrichment classes

  • 495. Norwood  |  March 24, 2015 at 8:33 am

    Someone asked for a breakdown of scores for the RGC test and I didn’t see an answer. Here it is.

    Both the Kindergarten test and the 1st-4th grade test have a mean of 100 and a standard deviation of 16.
    148 and above — 0.13% of the population
    Above 132 …. 2.27% of the population
    116-132 ….. 13.59% of the population
    84-116 …. 68.26% of the population
    68-84 ….. 13.59% of the population
    Below 68 …. 2% of the population
    Offers for some schools require 99.8 to 99.9%.

    To interpret your child’s score, it means that on the test day they got their score because they are really that smart, they had a good or a bad day, they got tripped up by the questions because they didn’t see a practice test, or they did a lot of test prep and they got a good score on the one day it counts. I don’t put a lot of stock in the K score as a measure of a child’s potential ability, but the test for higher grades is highly correlated with learning skills and study skills.

    Test takers in New York and Chicago have much higher percentages in the upper brackets, most likely because of test prep.

  • 496. ProudKellerMom  |  March 24, 2015 at 8:41 am

    @470 Sloopmama. Keller’s geographical makeup is very diverse. We have a lot of kids from the surrounding area (19th ward) but a lot come from Hyde park, UIC/Chinatown, Midway. I also believe we have a few that come from far east side, north side and west side. I think the principal is planning a visit/tour for next week. Keep a look out for the invitation.

  • 497. TiredDad  |  March 24, 2015 at 8:42 am

    My kid tested for 3rd grade and got 139 in RGC score – Tier 4. The only school we applied to is Edison. Can a few parents whose kids were able to make the switch in the older grades let us know if there is hope?

    BTW, the mails arrived in 60631 around 9 PM or so.

  • 498. Looking at colleges  |  March 24, 2015 at 9:00 am

    I just wanted to write in and say that yesterday my son was accepted at Northwestern and that he went to NCP for high school. I am writing because he was not accepted to an RGC or to Decatur. He honestly was not even close to being accepted. We found a wonderful neighborhood elementary school with excellent, caring teachers and wonderful, diverse students, of all abilities. I never tested him again for any gifted elementary program because we were happy where were and I never wanted to go through that process again.

    So, congratulations to all of the students who were accepted to the gifted programs, but to all who were not, do not feel bad, do not feel like your kids are not going to get a good education or that they will not succeed. This is just the beginning. Nurture and love your kids and they will be fine.

  • 499. Help  |  March 24, 2015 at 9:02 am

    Offered beasley rg but dont know about it can someone share about beasley please

  • 500. north side mom  |  March 24, 2015 at 9:12 am

    To #487. 1stTimeCPSMom: I have a 5th grade daughter at SN and she/we have LOVED the school from day 1. She was also offered at Disney Magnet and has friends there. I think both schools have much to offer. I have 3 children in 3 different CPS schools and must say that SN is by far the best as far as administration is concerned. The principal is phenomenal. Good luck with your decision!

  • 501. citymom  |  March 24, 2015 at 9:14 am

    Can anybody share about their child going to a neighborhood/magnet school for K and getting into an RGC or classical for first grade. Did you have to supplement the Kindergarten year. Will the child be behind since teaching is done at a grade level above? We got high magnet numbers and no SEES offers. R98 M61.

  • 502. Robin in WRP  |  March 24, 2015 at 9:25 am

    citymom – our daughter was at a Montessori based private school for two years, before Decatur. She blossomed at Decatur, and the transition was a piece of cake. The big problem was keeping her challenged – a bored child is an obnoxious, disruptive child.

  • 503. Southside Tier 3 Mom  |  March 24, 2015 at 9:26 am

    We got accepted into McDade Classical for K. McDade has great numbers and test scores. However we were wait listed for Newberry at #8. Im thinking they may have an opening. Or should I go with the selective classical school? Again, Reading was 99%, math 93%.

  • 504. citymom  |  March 24, 2015 at 9:31 am

    Robin in WRP – our daughter is at a Montessori as well and since she didn’t get in anywhere, we are keeping her there for her Kindergarten year. Although I’m a bit worried since Montessori is so “free” and am afraid she’ll fall behind. Did you have to supplement at home? You are giving me some hope though! Thanks you.

  • 505. southside tier 3 kindergarten mom  |  March 24, 2015 at 9:32 am

    If parents call to decline offers now will the schools begin calling us folks on the waitlist before the April 14th deadline? If so I hope parents who have made up their minds will contact the schools they are declining so the rest of us can start receiving some calls. 🙂 I’m posting here because I know some people have received both a SEES offer AND a magnet offer.

  • 506. Robin in WRP  |  March 24, 2015 at 9:35 am

    We did workbooks on the bus going to and from school (as we did on the train, all through preschool), and sent her to an amazing science class at CTD at Northwestern. Mostly, though, we worked on ways to keep her from being disruptive in class (writing down answers in her special notebook instead of blurting them out), etc. She was the only reader in K,

  • 507. el ganso  |  March 24, 2015 at 9:50 am

    Tier 3
    RGC: 148
    R: 99.9%
    M: 99.8%

    Offered at Coonley (1st choice)

  • 508. lalsimps  |  March 24, 2015 at 10:11 am

    RGC: 135
    R: 95%
    M: 88%
    Kindergarten, no offers

    Applied to Coonley, Skinner North and Skinner West.

    How do I find out what Tier we are?

  • 509. 60660  |  March 24, 2015 at 10:13 am

    @497 –

    its a crap shoot

    Many of the kids who arrive at Edison are coming from SE so they have a track record of scoring well on this test. Chances are there are at least a few kids out there with 140+ and Edison as a 1st choice.
    I think there are maybe 2 expansion spots in next years 3rd grade and also the possibility that a few families will leave for the ‘burbs or whatever.

    Last year the one family that reported getting a 2ndG spot at Edison had a score over 140, my kid scored 135 and was offered Beaubien, when we spoke to OAE at the start of the Summer we were told that she was in a group of about 10 in line for spots in B.C.E.

  • 510. Single Child Mom  |  March 24, 2015 at 10:15 am

    Sloop mama@470, swsideprogressive@466, proudkeller mom
    Thanks for the comments on Keller. We are on the south side and is worry about the commute as well. Thinking of the school bus but not sure if child gets picked up from home or from a designated location? Just waiting to tour before making the decision. No info on their website or on OAE yet.

  • 511. TiredDad  |  March 24, 2015 at 10:23 am

    @509 – 60660 ( Thanks! this helps a lot. Our kid has been going to Decatur since K and I guess that is probably the right fit for her and we should continue there. She had the exact same score of 139 when she tested in K. Though Edison was our first choice, we didn’t get in and got offered Decatur (our second choice) and we decided to take it and not wait for the next round. In retrospect, I think that was a good decision since it looks like with 139 it is difficult to get into Edison.

    Good luck everyone waiting for the second round!

  • 512. El Ganso  |  March 24, 2015 at 10:28 am

    @508 A tier map can be found here: http://cpstiers.opencityapps.org/ More info on tier process for SEES here: http://www.cpsoae.org/apps/news/show_news.jsp?REC_ID=184188

  • 513. KAmir's Mommy  |  March 24, 2015 at 10:39 am

    Only received our magnet school letter yesterday, so I’m a bit anxious. Did not receive any offers on that. Did have one wait list at a #6 spot, but the remaining wait list numbers seem incredibly high (100-302). REALLY hoping the other letter arrives today just so I’ll have an answer.

    We are Tier 4 entering K.

  • 514. sparklesvira  |  March 24, 2015 at 10:44 am

    RGC Score: 102
    Classical – Reading = 99.5 and Math = 98
    Tier 4
    Entering Kindergarten
    Tested about 30 minutes

    It took me the whole night and this morning to calm myself about the scores. And my first reaction was more that I felt I failed my son and didnt prepare him well enough. But I am so baffled at the huge disparity in scores. He totally must have checked out of the gifted testing. I cannot understand how they test and how to justify this kind of disparity. And of course we were waitlisted in all the magnet schools as well. I think in some earlier threads as a parent commented, I feel we are one of the lucky few parents who have options other than these schools. So while I feel bad that these scores didnt get my son a seat in the SEES, I have managed to talk myself into calming down about it. This is not the end of the world and certainly not a measure of my son’s future!

  • 515. PookeyMom  |  March 24, 2015 at 10:50 am

    RGC 144
    Tier 4
    We have an offer from Lenart for K.
    Our son is currently in a private school with a great reputation. It is a sacrifice to send him there.
    The feedback we got from current or former Lenart parents on the school is mixed. So we have mixed feelings about parting with our current place, as a result.
    Would anyone like to share information about Lenart?
    Things like social-emotional development, the arts and teacher-student relationship, in particular, would be much appreciated. Thank you

  • 516. Test Scores  |  March 24, 2015 at 10:56 am

    For those fortunate enough to have multiple choices, a refresher. Test scores are only one factor, but its good to know what they are. Here are the top elementary schools in CPS ranked by Spring 2014 NWEA MAP Attainment Percentile (Reading & Math Average), cut off at 85th percentile of national average. Tiebreaks sorted by % of Students Exceeding Expectations on the 2014 ISAT Composite:

    1. Skinner North 99, 83
    2. Edison, T 99, 80
    3. Decatur 99, 77.3
    4. Keller 99, 76.2
    5. Lenart 99, 68.8
    6. Skinner West 99, 64.4
    7. McDade 99, 57.9
    8. Lincoln 99, 56
    9. Hawthorne 99, 52.5
    10. Poe 99, 50
    11. Bell 99, 47.1
    12. Coonley 99, 43
    13. Lasalle 99, 41.1
    14. Jackson, A 99, 41
    15. Blaine 99, 39.7
    16. STEM ES 99, 38.7
    17. Alcott ES 99, 31.2
    18. Sauganash 99, 30.5
    19. Oriole Park 98.5, 47.2
    20. Edgebrook 98.5, 43
    21. Burley 98.5, 41.2
    22. Beaubien 98.5, 33
    23. Sheridan 98.5, 31.6
    24. Mount Greenwood 98.5, 29.5
    25. Healy 98, 27.4
    26. Audubon 98, 26.4
    27. South Loop 97.5, 33.4
    28. Wildwood 97.5, 30.6
    29. Ebinger 97.5, 30.6
    30. Norwood Park 97.5, 29.2
    31. Disney II 97, 32.8
    32. Franklin 96.5, 35.8
    33. Disney 96.5, 30.2
    34. Thorp, O 96.5, 27.7
    35. Ogden 96.5, 26.1
    36. Solomon 96, 27.9
    37. Stone 96, 26.9
    38. Canty 95, 27.7
    39. Haines 94, 19.7
    40. Galileo 94, 16.7
    41. Nettelhorst 92.5, 25.1
    42. Drummond 92.5, 21
    43. Mayer 92.5, 20.1
    44. Onahan 92.5, 20
    45. Sutherland 92, 26.3
    46. Ward, J 92, 20.6
    47. Pritzker 91, 29
    48. Newberry 91, 24.1
    49. Hamilton 91, 17.6
    50. Rogers 90.5, 22.5
    51. Lasalle II 90.5, 22.2
    52. Edison Park 90.5, 18.1
    53. Smyser 90.5, 15.2
    54. Jamieson 90, 18.8
    55. Waters 89.5, 19.6
    56. Dore 89.5, 18.5
    57. Burroughs 89.5, 10
    58. Earhart 88.5, 21
    59. Garvy 88, 17.2
    60. Farnsworth 88, 16.6
    61. Agassiz 87, 24
    62. Prussing 87, 19.9
    63. Prescott 87, 17.8
    64. Cassell 87, 17.4
    65. Washington, G 86, 17.7
    66. Lyon 86, 12.8
    67. Mitchell 86, 10.4

  • 517. Julia  |  March 24, 2015 at 11:05 am

    I feel I am at a crossroads. My daughter is at a private Catholic school that we like. The school recommend pushing her to Kindergarten this year because she was advanced. My daughter is reading at a 4th grade level and is at the top of her class (even a year ahead). Her teacher mentioned she thinks she would be bored repeating Kindergarten because she has mastered the material. I very much realized the testing process was very competitive (tier 4) but with her 99.6 in reading and 92 in math we were offered no spots. I was hoping to get a spot and she could ‘repeat’ kindergarten but with more rigor at a classical school. So what do I do? Push her ahead to 1st grade so she is challenged but the youngest (November birthday) and go try to test again for classical next year? Hold her back so she is in the correct grade for her birthday? Thanks for any advice!!

  • 518. LoganSquareMom  |  March 24, 2015 at 11:16 am

    My son entering K received an offer from STEM – – any thoughts on that school?

  • 519. momofmany  |  March 24, 2015 at 11:23 am

    Test Scores,

    Attainment is imho a very poor indicator to use. It is essentially a proxy for socioeconomic status. I would love to see that chart, but for NWEA GROWTH. How far do they move the kids up (or not) once they are in the school? That is a measure of the school’s impact.

  • 520. LuckyMOM  |  March 24, 2015 at 11:29 am

    RGC 144
    M 99.8
    R 99.9
    Offered Skinner North

  • 521. Test Scores  |  March 24, 2015 at 11:51 am

    @ Momofmany – I understand the argument against looking at attainment, but it’s a good indicator for me personally. Many RGCs/Classical schools and even magnets with no test-in are on this list despite taking ~50% of students from Tier 1 and 2.

    I stopped looking at Growth scores after reading comment #5 here:


    There are many ways to measure growth, especially when starting from different base lines and I’m not confident it’s a good metric for comparing different schools that are apples and oranges.

    I’m trying to keep it simple. This list is in no way definitive. Even the attainment scores are somewhat suspicious to me when I look at some of the BIG jumps in school scoring from Fall ’13 to Spring ’14.

    I’ll take a good look when ’14/’15 NWEA MAPs get posted, maybe with two years of data some more good detail will fall out.

  • 522. prouddad  |  March 24, 2015 at 11:59 am

    Tier 2
    R 99.9
    M 96.0
    RGC 135
    Offered Skinner North for K

  • 523. totismomi  |  March 24, 2015 at 12:07 pm

    Does anyone know if there is a way to find out what the lowest score was that got accepted last year for each school.
    Is there a way to go back and view which schools you choose? Any stem parents with input about the school.

  • 524. Barb S  |  March 24, 2015 at 12:17 pm

    To the parent asking about 4th grade at Edison and Bell. I think I remember hearing at an Edison tour that they don’t accept students after 3rd grade. You may want to call them.

  • 525. Single Child Mom  |  March 24, 2015 at 12:27 pm

    Just found out from Keller RGC that there will be an open house on April 2 at 9:30am for prospective students.

  • 526. @515 PookeyMom  |  March 24, 2015 at 12:50 pm

    We have a child in K at Lenart and we like it very much. The administration is very professional and they have responded quickly to all of our questions. We are very happy with the K teacher and the kids love her. I can’t speak for the upper grades but I can say that my child really likes Lenart. They have French 2X/wk, gym 2X/wk, music 2X/wk and art 1X/wk. Some of the after school offerings this year included art, scooter soccer for the little ones, Latin for K-8, chess and lego robotics.
    One thing we were disappointed about was that Latin was a part of the regular school day until this year. The Latin teacher quit and they have had a difficult time replacing the position. I believe that is why they tried to fit some of the content in as a fun after school activity. We are hoping they may add Latin back in next year.
    If you were offered a spot, I strongly encourage you to tour the school and ask questions of the principal/assistant principal. They were very willing last year to address my concerns and questions over the phone a day or two after the letters went out. And, I feel they were very truthful with their answers. No school is perfect but Lenart has a lot of positives.

  • 527. CPS Parent  |  March 24, 2015 at 12:54 pm

    Any thoughts at all about Hawthorne vs. Beaubien RGC? Would love to hear feedback about Beaubien RGC in particular. Worried about the very early start time as we are about 20 min. away and kiddo is not a morning person 😉 Hawthorne is much closer and sibling preference is a plus. Will be touring Beaubien on Monday, but would love parent insight as reviews on Great Schools mention bullying frequently. Thanks in advance!

  • 528. PookeyMom  |  March 24, 2015 at 12:59 pm

    @526 Thank you so much for your answer! The information is very helpful.

  • 529. Bell  |  March 24, 2015 at 1:00 pm

    If people have specific questions about Bell I will try to answer–I currently have a 2nd grader in the Options program. We are very happy there. I am only lurking on the thread this year, but I will be back obsessing in earnest next year when my youngest is heading to kindergarten.

  • 530. Beaubien mom  |  March 24, 2015 at 1:02 pm

    Hi CPS Parent. yes Beaubien starts at 7.45 , which is early. same time as our Neighborhood school and its about 15 minutes drive for us so not a huge difference. My son is in first grade RGC and he likes it. We have not had any issues with bulling, but it is a big school. having said that I have recently heard of bulling issues in Decatur, and that is a small school, so it can happen anywhere i guess.
    There is always a lot going on on the school and they have a great after school program (piano, chess, Lego, theater).

  • 531. lisa  |  March 24, 2015 at 1:08 pm

    How much value should we be putting in the higher scores? My 5 year old scored 144. Does it mean she is truly gifted or is it just how well she can test? I am not sure what it all means, does anyone?

  • 532. Help  |  March 24, 2015 at 1:26 pm

    @ cpsparent i saw beaubien ans hawthorne and am not impressed with beaubien… Between the two hawthorne beats it by miles more organization and the writing and lit portion blows it away plus sibling prefrence… Beaubien gave me a lurky feeling… I am biased as my two kids are in classical programs how er hawtjorne is awesome

  • 533. Kara  |  March 24, 2015 at 1:28 pm

    My daughter was offered a spot at Coonley RGC but we’re considering declining it. If we later decide to reconsider/have her retested, are their other opportunities for her to possibly get into a public RGC?

  • 534. Help  |  March 24, 2015 at 1:34 pm

    Any thoughts on BEASLEY rgc???

  • 535. northsidemom  |  March 24, 2015 at 1:51 pm

    Tier 4
    Entering K
    R 99, M 99
    RGC 134
    No offers

    A couple questions… Is it normal that my son’s score reads 99 instead of 99.0 – since we are now talking about tenths of percentiles…? We are still hoping to get in to Decatur on future rounds. Is there hope? Is there any way of knowing how far down the waiting list we are? Also, does a Tier 4 student have to decline the offer for us to get in or can “our spot” come from any tier?

  • 536. Southside Tier 3 Mom  |  March 24, 2015 at 1:52 pm

    Be careful with Beasley. At one point years ago it was a great school, however the behavior issues are a problem. About 7 years ago I did my student teaching there. I had the “good” class; however some of the other classes were horrible. My nephews also attend. One is in the gifted program so he’s doing okay, but the other is in the “regular” classes and the kids are pretty bad. I see this dichotomy in many schools where there is a gifted program and a neighborhood component. It wouldn’t be my first choice.

  • 537. a parent  |  March 24, 2015 at 1:53 pm

    RGC: 152
    Reading: 98
    Math: 95

    Got accepted to Pritkzer. I’ve heard really mixed impressions of the school. We are currently in private. Any thoughts?

  • 538. Michelle  |  March 24, 2015 at 2:03 pm

    @517: Here’s my two cents, for whatever it’s worth. My daughter has a late September birthday and was at a private Montessori school. Montessori is a little different in that it’s a mixed age group, but the last year of their 3 to 6 program is “Kindergarten.” My daughter didn’t make the September 1 cutoff, so actually spent 4 years in the 3 to 6 room (entered just before turning 3 and finished just after turning 6, which kind of boiled down to doing two years of kindergarten.) Her teachers and I talked about bumping her up (because she was so close to the cut-off), but decided against it for reasons that weren’t academic–which later in life are probably going to mean more. That was a year she had to mature emotionally and take a real leadership role in the classroom, as well as build up more confidence in herself (not that she wasn’t confident, but there’s a lot of emotional growth that happens in these years). For us, it was the right decision and I think now being the oldest in her class has advantages, like, again, more emotional maturity, more confidence. Also, simple things will come into play when you’re the youngest–like not being able to drive when all your friends can. Sounds ridiculous, but those were things we seriously considered. At the end of the day, challenging her academically wasn’t a big problem (Montessori is set up to let a child work at the level they are at–whether that’s advance or not), and so I’d have a frank conversation with her current teachers about putting plans in place that will ensure your daughter remains engaged and challenged (and if that can’t be done at school, we found we could do that at home, too). Overall, if you’re only concerned with the academics, I’d let her stay in her grade before pushing her on. Again, that’s just my two cents. My daughter entered a SEE classical school as a first grader and was absolutely fine. Good luck with your decision!

  • 539. Decatur_Parent  |  March 24, 2015 at 2:10 pm

    @535 Most likely, will get into Decatur in later rounds. Good luck.

  • 540. Decatur Parent  |  March 24, 2015 at 2:10 pm

    @535 – at the K level, a 99 means your child got a 99.0. If it’s a 99.2 or >99.9, it will say that. For first grade and later, the highest number they report is 99. They record internally whether it’s higher than 99, but the score you see on your letter doesn’t reflect it. So to me, it makes it harder in first grade and later to decide what your chances are of getting a later round offer because you don’t know whether your child’s score is a 99, or actually higher.

    Regarding your tier, I just don’t recall when the tiers no longer matter. It’s either after the first or second round, but maybe someone else who knows more definitively can chime in. But once tiers don’t matter, they simply make spots available to the kids with the highest scores that have not yet accepted an offer somewhere else. A first-round offer from Tier 4 usually requires a 99.something on at least one of the scores – my child got in at K in the first round with a 99.6 R and a 99 math from Tier 4. Whether you’ll get in after the first round with those scores depends on how many people decline their spots, but I’d say you have at least a decent shot. Good luck!

  • 541. rewing123  |  March 24, 2015 at 2:13 pm

    I’m following along because I’ll be going through this next year. I’m curious it seems like a lot of people are applying for magnet schools as well as testing their kids then mention they will decline all spots because they are happy with where they are already at. am I missing something? What is the reasoning behind this? Why put your kids through the testing when you know you’re not even going to accept a spot? Or why bother applying to magnets?

  • 542. Decision time  |  March 24, 2015 at 2:18 pm

    Ok, so between Beaubien RGC, Hawthorne, and Disney (with the assumption that he would be in comprehensive gifted program there), which way would you go? Thanks in advance.

  • 543. Dad of 2  |  March 24, 2015 at 2:19 pm


    I’d think you have a good shot at getting a Decatur offer in subsequent rounds. Your child’s 99s are, in fact, 99.0s, even though not reported that way (otherwise, they would be reported as 99.1%). I’d suggest searching through the 2014 SEES letter thread to see where second and third round offers for Decatur landed. As for tiers, my understanding is that the tiers apply for the first and second rounds only, and after that offers are based on straight scores. Either way, a pair of 99s is pretty darn high, so I’d think you’re in good shape for a later offer. Good luck! Decatur has its detractors, but it’s a great school with a tremendously diverse group of bright and eager students and an incredibly invested and involved parent body.

  • 544. Confused Parent  |  March 24, 2015 at 2:22 pm


  • 545. HELP - Advice needed  |  March 24, 2015 at 2:24 pm

    Does anyone have thoughts on Pritzker RGC vs Bell?

    Tier 4
    1st Grade
    RGC 129
    R:99 M 95

    DS got an offer into Pritzker. Bell was our first choice. DO we take it or should we decline in hopes of getting a 2nd round from Bell. Do people in Tier 4 who got accepted into Bell ever decline? Don’t know if we are foolish for even thinking about it…we are really grateful for an offer. Would love any advice anyone may have. Thanks!

  • 546. Where are old threads?  |  March 24, 2015 at 2:24 pm

    Where can we find 2014 threads? I’d like to know if my daughters RGC or Classical scores might get her a second round offer (for 1st grade) at my first/second choice schools before we decline the RGC offer she did get.

  • 547. ruthcrisler  |  March 24, 2015 at 2:25 pm

    Btw, before accepting any invitations, I strongly advise confirming your child’s eligibility for transportation, if that’s something you’re relying on. We were unpleasantly surprised to discover that not all selective enrollment programs observe the 6 mile radius bussing rule.

  • 548. LostInTranslation  |  March 24, 2015 at 2:34 pm

    @541, I’m also curious as to why people retest their kids when they have absolutely no intention of moving them. Not only are they putting their kids through the stress of the test, but they are potentially taking a seat from a child who would actually want it. My child’s sees class is not full this year (which is great for the existing kids) but not so good for the people lower on the waitlist who never got a call. If I were in that position I’d be pretty annoyed that my child potentially lost an opportunity just so that someone else could see how their child scored.

  • 549. ruthcrisler  |  March 24, 2015 at 2:38 pm

    @548, I wouldn’t bother testing just for the sake of it, but those spots aren’t lost. If the offers aren’t accepted within a brief window, they default to others.

  • 550. LostInTranslation  |  March 24, 2015 at 2:53 pm

    @549 – the class did not fill up by mid sep (when OAE stops offering spots) and there were still children waiting for calls at that time. If too many people decline for whatever reason, those seats are lost for the year.

  • 551. Test Scores  |  March 24, 2015 at 2:53 pm


    Letters went out with a statement that “approximately 3,400 students were tested for seats at the kindergarten level this year”. 99th Percentile would include 34 kids. 1 classroom available at Decatur and Skinner North each for Kindergarten, 30% or ~18 spots for combined “Rank” (pure score) and ~10 spots for each “Tier”. You should have received a spot to any other Classical school if you applied. As it is, you must be REALLY close on the wait list.

    Decatur adds a classroom in 1st grade.

  • 552. Angie  |  March 24, 2015 at 2:55 pm

    @542. Decision time:”Ok, so between Beaubien RGC, Hawthorne, and Disney (with the assumption that he would be in comprehensive gifted program there), which way would you go?”

    Do you have younger siblings? If so, magnet might be a better choice because of sibling preference.

    @546. Where are old threads?: Here: https://cpsobsessed.com/2014/03/21/2014-sees-gifted-and-classical-letter-thread/

  • 553. Jennifer  |  March 24, 2015 at 3:09 pm

    Tier 4, entering kindergarten:
    Regional: 125
    Reading: 92
    Math: 98
    No offers

  • 554. Beaubien  |  March 24, 2015 at 3:10 pm

    My child is in the sixth grade RGC at Beaubien. He has been there since first grade and has been positively challenged every step of the way. He has met so many great kids and made good friendships. We love it!

    The teachers in the Options program are excellent. I think its location (far northwest corner of the city) makes it less desirable and “off the radar” for most Chicago families–fine by me–the entrance scores have not jumped up to insane heights like some schools!

    It’s a huge school with a lot of personalities and diverse backgrounds (1100+ students). The RGC kids (one class of about 30 per grade) do not mix a whole lot with the rest of the school, except for lunch and recess and a monthly activity period, which seems a shame and could promote better understanding among individuals. They are working on improving that, though.

    The school got a very cool playground addition and turf field last year. The PTO is active, but not overwhelmingly in-your-face like some schools. The neighborhood is nice and safe. They have strong math and chess teams, and the science fair is always top-notch! They have an afterschool program through Right at School. They put on a good variety show. They just hosted an amazing “Pi Day” event for families. There is a nice back-to-school picnic and walkathon.

    In the RGC, families have to work at making playdates happen afterschool and on weekends, since kids commute into school from all over the city.

    All in all, it is a nice community with strong academics. I spoke with some teachers at Lane, Whitney and Taft last year and they all said Beaubien kids are well-prepared for AC and high school math and science work–they do not need to backtrack to catch them up, like some neighborhood, SE and classical schools. That told me a lot!

  • 555. Kenwood Mom  |  March 24, 2015 at 3:11 pm

    My DD was offered a seat at McDade entering Kindergarten. Any feedback on the school? Any others offered at seat?

  • 556. Suzanne  |  March 24, 2015 at 3:12 pm

    Lenart RGC
    score: 131

  • 557. Southside Tier 3 Mom  |  March 24, 2015 at 3:25 pm

    Kenwood Mom,
    My daughter was also offered a seat at McDade. If you Google the school, the test scores are excellent. It’s a small school which I like; and it’s one of the top 10 in the state. I guess the only downside is the lack of diversity…
    Our school librarian has a daughter there and she likes it.
    What were your daughters scores? My dd scored 99 in reading and 93 in math.

  • 558. Robin in WRP  |  March 24, 2015 at 3:28 pm

    Julia – I skipped 4th grade; I don’t recommend it

  • 559. LVDad  |  March 24, 2015 at 3:45 pm

    @551 Test Scores – I see what you’re getting at but the numbers aren’t quite right. These are general population percentiles but the testing group self-selects for ones that parents think are already talented (thus we see a lot more 90s posted here than 20s). So you might expect that more than 34 kids of the 3400 are in the top percentile.

    On the other side of the coin, the fact that there are two scores, which aren’t perfectly correlated, means that while one in 100 kids will be 99th percentile for math, that doesn’t imply that same kid will be the one in 100 that is 99th percentile for reading. Getting them both to line up is difficult, and thus more rare than 1 in 100.

    Finally, in prior years, we’ve seen a child with 99.9 in one subject but 98 or 97 in the other get in before a 99/99. It’s unclear how it’s weighted.

    Those factors make it very hard to determine the pool of qualified students, unfortunately.

    Also – Skinner North has two kindergarten classes, so there’s at least that going for us!

  • 560. also..  |  March 24, 2015 at 3:56 pm

    @ Test scores. First, thanks for posting that list of school rankings. Interesting to see. Second, do you (or does anyone) know why the MAP scores show so many more schools with 99th percentile averages than the ISATs used to show? I find that strange given that the MAP with its adaptivity should show more stratification, not less? Lastly, I am pretty sure the percentiles on the classical exam are nationally normed, so there would be no way to know that only 34 kids scored in the 99th based on 3400 kids tested. Chances are most of the kids taking the test are well above average on a national scale, so probably many more than 1% of them will be in the national 99th percentile.

  • 561. also..  |  March 24, 2015 at 3:57 pm

    oops. @559 beat me to the point!

  • 562. Kenwood Mom  |  March 24, 2015 at 4:07 pm

    HI @Southside Tier 3 Mom

    RGC 121
    Math 99th
    Reading 96th

    I plan on touring the school before the 4/15/2015 and I have been doing a lot of research. The school is ranked well, As I reviewed this website I saw a lot of comments about Northside schools but very little about Southside schools.

  • 563. northsidemom  |  March 24, 2015 at 4:12 pm

    @551 We applied to both Decatur and Skinner North and did not get any offers with R 99 and M 99 (Tier 4). Does this math add up with 3,400 kids testing? How many kindergarten classes does Skinner North have?

  • 564. Barb S  |  March 24, 2015 at 4:17 pm

    Thank you! I appreciate the input on Beaubien.

  • 565. feeder schools  |  March 24, 2015 at 4:18 pm


    Previous discussions on this forum suggest that MAP scores published by CPS are possibly in multiple ways manipulated. The growth scores are the oddest, with many “good” schools reporting 99% growth. In reality, a school with a high ratio of smart and hardworking students just can’t expect to grow at such a pace year after year, unless the national norm of 50% growth is a really low standard. As you pointed out, we don’t know much about how the attainment scores are related to raw test scores, which makes comparison with ISAT difficult. Additionally and dubiously, several charter or not traditionally “good” schools have very high attainment scores. These manipulations seem to serve some purposes. CPS should make public its methodology.

  • 566. sn mom  |  March 24, 2015 at 4:20 pm

    #563 – Skinner North has two classes of 30 students each. (With wonderful teachers.)

  • 567. Test Scores  |  March 24, 2015 at 4:26 pm


    Pretty sure the NWEA MAP scores are not the same as the Classical Test. At least for the young kids as NWEA MAP does not test until 2nd grade.

    Also, in the rankings I quoted the “National School Attainment Percentile”, that is to say that the SCHOOL is in the 99th percentile of SCHOOLS nationally.

    This is different than the ISAT number I quote which is the % of the STUDENTS in the school that exceeded expectations on the test. Others often quote the Meet Expectations %, but I’m trying to show top performers. Also ISAT is a state test and the thresholds have been revised in the past.

    If you go to CPS and download the data for the NWEA MAP, rather than the school percentile, you can also see the Average raw RIT score and the % of students At/Above National Average Performance. Glancing at it ~85% of students above national average correlates to a 99% school. Also I averaged Reading and Math for simplicity, the report does not combine them.

    Clicking this should start the excel file download on your computer:

  • 568. Test Scores  |  March 24, 2015 at 4:28 pm

    ISAT scores are here:

    The report uses the new ISBE 2014 performance level cut-scores for all years. English Language Learners are included.

  • 569. Test Scores  |  March 24, 2015 at 4:29 pm

    @565 that is why I only look at attainment scores. By my understanding those are not manipulated in any way by CPS and come straight from the test maker.

  • 570. ttoppe  |  March 24, 2015 at 4:36 pm

    What is the difference between a Regional Gifted Center and a Classical school?

    I understand the differences in the tests, Classical test knowledge, RGC tests potential/IQ/abstract thought. But what is he real difference in curriculum and daily activities for the kids?


  • 571. Test Scores  |  March 24, 2015 at 4:51 pm

    @565 I compared all the MAP test data in excel to the last 8 years of ISAT data. For the vast majority of the ~400 schools the results make sense. There are a handful of outliers that seem strange, but I think it’s related to a change in the students that took the test from Fall to Spring.

    The most glaring example is Hefferan, a neighborhood (non-charter) school in West Garfield Park that is 99% Black and 95% low income. In the Fall of ’13, ~150 students tested and ~45% scored at/above national average, which lead to a School Percentile of 36. In the Spring ~250 students tested and 80% scored at/above national average, which lead to a School Percentile of 99, a swing of 63% points!

    At the opposite end, Courtenay (Edgewater/Uptown) tested 130 kids in the fall and 300 in the spring, and their score DROPPED from 84 to 41.

    However MOST schools were +/- 15% points, and the average increased 7% points (which I attribute to teaching to the test and “rookie” mistakes, I would bet that the stakes are higher for CPS teachers/schools than other districts that take NWEA MAP).

    I look forward to a second year of the data, so I can see if the numbers continue to trend in a way that mostly makes sense.

  • 572. Furhan  |  March 24, 2015 at 5:06 pm

    Dear CPS editor
    Do you know how many seats typically exist for 2nd grade in RGC?
    My daughter got 139 in Tier 4 and no offers.
    Also – what are the cut off typically for Tier 4 to make to any RGC? I see keller at 112 in Tier 4
    Any chance of second round with 139?

    Look forward to your insight.


  • 573. taylormom  |  March 24, 2015 at 5:15 pm

    For those of you asking about Pritzker RGC: I called today and there’s an open house this Saturday 2/28 from 10AM-12Noon. Starting with a Q&A with the principle and then guided tour. I have lots of questions too for them as there’s not much out there on the program. Please attend with me and ask questions!

  • 574. STEM opinion  |  March 24, 2015 at 5:46 pm

    @523 and @518
    Our child went to STEM, choosing it over a SEES offer, and we are no longer there. The principal is contentious and unprofessional at best, and utterly offensive at worst. This year the LSC has been newly implemented and will be deciding whether or not to offer the principal a contract. Keep an eye on that…better yet, GO to an LSC meeting for a taste of the school’s atmosphere. If they do give her a contract, I would seriously take that into consideration as she sets the tone for the whole school, and it’s rough.
    That said, our child did thrive there academically…but scores and grades only measure a fraction of what children should be learning and I didn’t like any of the other lessons.
    Best of luck to you both whichever decision you make!

  • 575. CPSparent  |  March 24, 2015 at 5:56 pm

    @529 Bell, can you (or anyone else who’s willing) please speak to the comments others made earlier about experiences after 1st grade? How are you and your 2nd grader liking the second grade teacher and experience compared to 1st grade? What do you think of the 3rd grade teacher for next year? I’d love to hear some opinions and feedback from you and any other parents 2nd – 8th.

  • 576. feeder schools  |  March 24, 2015 at 6:01 pm

    @ STEM opinion

    “I didn’t like any of the other lessons.”

    Can you be more specific about the reasons? Was it because of the contents (range and depth), the teachers (skills and passion), or something else other than the principal?

  • 577. g2-8f9bc4c075669b4ea0a3fd4283844b88  |  March 24, 2015 at 6:14 pm

    RGC: 126
    (test took about 15-20 minutes, though she was called back months later for 5 minutes of further testing)
    Reading: 73
    Math: 80
    No offers, but we got a spot at Disney in the magnet lottery.

  • 578. Decatur Parent  |  March 24, 2015 at 6:18 pm

    @570 – We tested a couple of years ago, and while my son was in the test I chatted up the head of the IIT department who was administering the test. He was really friendly and helpful. Among the things he told me was that Classical and RGC programs have the same objective – to graduate students who are working at 1-2 grades above level. He said they get there in different ways, but aim to end up at the same place. He said RGC programs are “module based” (my words, not his). The description he gave is that if you were, for example, studying Columbus discovering America, all of your work (math, science, history, social studies) would be geared to Columbus and would be taught together. The classical curriculum, he said, is more focused on traditional subjects such as math, english, reading, etc., but it’s done faster. They literally start doing first grade workbooks in kindergarten and go from there.

    I can also tell you a little more about the classical curriculum because we are at a classical school. The classical curriculum is a lot of memorization at the lower grades – the theory is that the young brain is a total sponge, and so they load it with facts while it can absorb them. Translation – a bunch of worksheets and timed math tests. But as the kids get older – 3rd/4th grade – they get more creative in the work they do and use all those facts to become critical and creative thinkers. At Decatur, the 6th graders are going to be programming rasberry pi boards and using them to launch rockets that they construct themselves.

    There is a pretty good description of the two curricula (plural curriculum? I didn’t go to a SEES) on the CPS website.

  • 579. city or burbs mom  |  March 24, 2015 at 6:31 pm

    Didn’t receive letters yet (my stomach is in knots), but received an email from Skinner North welcoming us to their school for kindergarten. What do you know about this school? I know nothing.

  • 580. wadhwakomal  |  March 24, 2015 at 6:38 pm

    Decatur parent,
    Thanks for the insight, could you also pls tell me if u suggest someone travel 10 miles each way for the kids to attend the school. I just need some moral support, do any other parents do that…thanks..

  • 581. isupportpantherettie  |  March 24, 2015 at 6:51 pm

    Kenwood Mom. McDade is an excellent school and the class work is very challenging. I definitely believe you should send your child there. It’s also in a safe neighborhood as well on the southside. You should also take into consideration that the school only goes up to the sixth grade and after graduation the kids usually go to an AC program. My niece and nephew went on to Whitney Young.

  • 582. PritzkerRGCParent  |  March 24, 2015 at 7:02 pm

    Some info on Pritzker for those who’ve gotten offers (congrats!!!) Our son is in 1st grade at Pritzker RGC. He is thriving there and we are so pleased with the school. Great diversity, great before/after school options for working parents, great art/music program which is really important to us, really involved friends of org. The best way to get a feel for Pritzker is to attend the open house this weekend and see for yourself. I had read so many weird reviews of Pritzker and was slightly nervous before we started there that the school would be a bad choice but it’s a great match for our son and family. Feel free to post specific questions if you like! If you end up taking your Pritzker offer – welcome to the school 🙂

  • 583. Kenwood Mom  |  March 24, 2015 at 7:02 pm

    Thank you so much @isupportpantherettie. I like to see more comments about the school and the curriculum. Does anyone know if Mcdade has after care?

  • 584. ??  |  March 24, 2015 at 7:07 pm

    With Tier 4 and a RGC score of 134, does my child have a chance at Pritzker in later rounds?

  • 585. TiredDad  |  March 24, 2015 at 7:07 pm

    580@ Komal – We have folks who travel 15 miles to come to Decatur :). We drive 7 miles to school.

  • 586. TiredDad  |  March 24, 2015 at 7:09 pm

    @Decatur Parent – you are making us love Decatur even more. Thanks for your insight. Not getting into Edison doesn’t sound that bad now.

  • 587. Jen K  |  March 24, 2015 at 7:11 pm

    @580 in the city, 10 miles each way is a very long distance, especially if you aren’t using the highway. I Suggest trying it one morning and one afternoon during normal drop and pick up times to see what it takes, and if you can commit to it for at least a year.

  • 588. PritzkerRGCParent  |  March 24, 2015 at 7:26 pm

    @?? #584 – is this for K? I’m not sure 134 for tier 4 will do it for Pritzker RGC for K but each year is different… 2 years ago for K, 136 was not enough for us to get an offer from Pritzker, we’re tier 3.

    We tested our son again for 1st grade and he got a 129 which resulted in a 1st round offer (scores dip after K for some reason)

  • 589. Pritzkeroffer  |  March 24, 2015 at 7:32 pm

    @PritzkerRGCParent – would you be willing to talk offline? Would love to hear your thoughts. Did your child have trouble adjusting since everyone else in the class had already started at K and he joined them in 1st? Is there a parent community for the RGC? If so, were you able to fit into the parent community given you joined later? Thanks!

  • 590. RogersPark Mama  |  March 24, 2015 at 7:37 pm

    Just to give you guys reassurances, I al posting the offers we got last year to show this continues well through first week of school. We (ds included) actually regret taking the AC spot and wish we’d stayed in an elementary through 8th. It’s a lot of growing up way fast, even for a Decatur kid. Trust your guts as parents. An offer from an elite school isn’t always the best choice for your kid. Sometimes it is, though (Coonley RGC is a dream for our dd).

    This applies to both AC and SE/Magnet entries so listing the numbers.
    150pts ~ 99% Math ISAT
    139.4pts ~ 92% Reading ISAT
    294pts ~ 148 Entrance
    250pts ~ 3-A’s, 1-C
    833.4pts Total

    Rising 7th Grader, Tier 3
    RGC ~ 149
    Reading ~ 99%
    Math ~ 99%

    Wait-List Positions ~
    Coonley #2 (sibling)
    Nettlehorst #2 (general)
    Boone #3 (general)
    Bundlong #4 (general)
    Goudy #8 (general)
    Peirce #11 (general)
    Waters #13 (general)
    Burly #14 (general) offered
    Stone #18 (general) offered
    Hamilton #19 (general)
    Ravenswood #21 (general)
    Audubon #23 (general) offered
    Disney II #25 (Tier 3) offered (.
    Hawthorne #51 (general) offered 9/10/14
    Disney #102 (general)

    Magnet/Lottery ~
    Offered Brenneman
    Offered Chappell
    Offered Courtenay
    Offered Audubon 6/23/14
    Offered Stone 8/12/14
    Offered Burley 8/18/14
    Offered Disney II 8/25/14
    Offered Hawthorne 9/10/14

    Offered Lane Tech AC Round 1
    Offered Skinner West Classical Round 1

    Ten offers through September. So know this letter isn’t the be all end all!

    We are sticking it out at LTAC. I think next year will go far better as he knows what to expect and year is huge (turning 13, going on 14) in maturity IMHO. Your kids will do great!

  • 591. Southside Tier 3 Mom  |  March 24, 2015 at 7:40 pm

    Kenwood Mom,
    I emailed the principal. He is conducting a tour next week on Tuesday@ 10:30 I believe. Being a teacher myself, I cannot make it; however I will try to get in to tour the school soon hopefully after school. As I said above, the librarian at my school has a daughter there in 5th grade and she loves it. She says there’s lots of work, which is not a bad thing.

  • 592. KAmir'sMommy  |  March 24, 2015 at 7:40 pm

    Still no rgc/classical letter. Feeling edgy. So much so I went back and found my application confirmation email just to be certain.

  • 593. JR  |  March 24, 2015 at 7:41 pm

    Our son took 20 min for the test. Scored 139, 99.6% in reading, 78% in math. Tier 2. No offers. Very very frustrated and disappointed.

  • 594. Decatur Parent  |  March 24, 2015 at 7:47 pm

    @580 – I agree with @587. Our commute is about 5 miles, and it takes us 20-25 minutes to get there on local streets, depending on weather and traffic. It’s also tough because it takes us in the opposite direction from where we live and work, so double the commute to get us back to where we started. Drop off starts at 8:00, and school starts at 8:15, so you need to figure out whether the commute works for your family. You should also confirm whether you’re in the bus boundaries. If you are, then that’s obviously an option. It’s a lot of time for a kid to spend on a bus round trip in a day, depending on how the bus schedule works out, but some kids really enjoy it.

  • 595. Decatur Parent  |  March 24, 2015 at 7:48 pm

    @Tired Dad, hope you get what you want, but happy to keep you at Decatur. 🙂

  • 596. Looking at NTA  |  March 24, 2015 at 7:50 pm

    Can any current NTA parents comment on the neighborhood side of the school? Did anyone send a younger sibling to the neighborhood side? Are you happy with it?

    DD sailed through Northwestern’s CTD test with amazing scores, but woke up with a fever of 102 on the morning when she took the CPS test. Needless to say, she only got a 118, so I highly doubt she’ll get a third round offer (we’re Tier 2). NTA was our first choice.

    We are, however, #3 on the neighborhood waitlist. I’m thinking we’ll probably get a call, but I’m torn on whether I should accept or just keep her at her current Montessori school for K and then have her take the test again next year. Would the neighborhood program be rigorous enough?

  • 597. Confused  |  March 24, 2015 at 8:20 pm

    If you are still in the applicant pool, do you receive offers from the schools that you did not apply to if you met there requirements?

  • 598. SWsideProgressive  |  March 24, 2015 at 8:20 pm

    @ 504. citymom: My daughter is currently in K at a Montessori school. Last year we had offers for SEES and magnet schools that we did not prefer, so we kept her where she was. This year she scored 12 points higher (136 vs. 124) on the RGC, so she got into our first choice RGC for first grade.

    @ 570. ttoppe: I think the preference for RGC vs. Classical is absolutely up to your type of kid. I actually think they should be separate applications. Last year we were offered a classical school that we turned down.

  • 599. relieved parent  |  March 24, 2015 at 8:26 pm

    Decatur Parent – thanks for taking the time to reply. sounds like it’s been a good experience and we’ll hope the same for our kiddo.

  • 600. worried mom  |  March 24, 2015 at 8:26 pm

    Is there offers for Bell neither last year or this year? Please let me know the scores and tiers.

  • 601. ProudKellerMom  |  March 24, 2015 at 8:29 pm

    For those accepted at Keller Regional Gifted Center (and any others): We will be hosting our annual Bunny Breakfast this Saturday 3/28/15 from 8:00 a.m to 11:00 a.m. Cost is $6 adult and $4 child. Please feel free to join us.

  • 602. Skinnerparent  |  March 24, 2015 at 8:34 pm

    #579–Take the Skinner North spot!!!! LOL. It’s a terrific school–great administration, excellent teachers, strong PTO. While it may be the very last thing they care about, they currently have the best test scores in the state. There will be an open house next week–check it out for yourself in person.

  • 603. STEM opinion  |  March 24, 2015 at 8:42 pm

    @576 Feeder schools, I just mean that as a child spends their 7+ hrs a day in the school, they learn a lot more than just the curriculum. Of course you also have a big piece of the puzzle in your hands at home being an involved parent, but I would like to see positive things like caring, patience, respect, empathy, etc. modeled where I send my child, rather than angry loud staff and punitive, zero-tolerance policies for 5 year olds.

  • 604. StayPositive  |  March 24, 2015 at 8:48 pm

    First off – congrats to all the Coonley acceptances – it’s an amazing school/administration and you won’t be disappointed! We lucked out with a K acceptance a few years ago and haven’t looked back since 🙂

    On average, I think 2 students have left our class each year, however those spots haven’t been filled until the following year (by which time a couple more have left for various reasons). So we’ve netted a couple of kids short each year (and without any mid-year admissions).

    To previous poster’s questions about the odds of getting into SEES programs at higher grades, K entrance really is your best shot (as the movement at higher grades can be little-to-none). Not impossible, but you’re hoping for a small miracle by that point (so congrats to the person who got their child in for 5th!).

    In terms of what an RGC curriculum really means, in CPS at least, all it really means is that your child will be following the Common Core curriculum for one year ahead. Kindergartners are basically treated as 1st graders – all the math books, reading books, activities are aligned with 1st grade curriculum. Their reading levels/math scores throughout the year will be assessed against the 1st grade standards, etc.

    I’d love to say that acceptance into an RGC means your child is being exposed to a specially designed Gifted curriculum mapping to their unique cognitive functioning – however, in reality, they’ve basically succeeded in skipping the K curriculum.

    That said, this is still very valid as these are bright kids who are ready for more advanced curriculum (as supposedly determined by the testing) – however I think it’s important to note that those children not receiving RGC offers aren’t missing out on some “secret” curriculum. Their child will be getting to do the Kindergarten curriculum in Kindergarten (which I don’t think is a bad thing) 🙂

    And then in terms of test prep – we personally went the route of no test prep – opting to use the test to determine a baseline of our child’s natural ability. And really, who knows…but I feared the possibility of “flash carding” them into a good test day, but setting them up for longer-term failure.

    In the end, I’m glad we went in that direction. Because they are basically jumping into 1st grade, the curriculum does pick up pretty fast, and your child can very quickly be scoring “Below Level” against the 1st grade math rubric even though they’d be scored “Above Level” for that exact same concept against the K math rubric. I think it would be tough on everyone (parents included!) if the child wasn’t truly ready for those concepts.

    Anyhoo – late night ramblings and reminders of the joys of the cpsobsessed brother/sisterhood 🙂

    Stay as positive as possible throughout this crazy process and know it ain’t truly over until a few weeks into the school year – movement happens!

  • 605. Emily  |  March 24, 2015 at 8:48 pm

    Hi, everyone. I just received the email that said Your child has been selected to enroll at National Teachers Academy through our regional gifted center (RGC) program.
    I havn’t got the mail yet.
    We just moved from the west suburb Naperville to Chicago half year ago. Naperville has good gifted programs too.
    Is this a good school? How about the gifted program? Comparing to the gifted program is Naperville, Is NTA better or worse?
    Sorry I have no idea at all.
    Or will I receive other offers?
    Any suggestions?
    Thank you.

  • 606. Btdt  |  March 24, 2015 at 8:52 pm

    Edison accepts students past 3rd grade, there were new kids in both 4th & 5th grade in my daughters class. Usually several spots available in 7th as well as some leave for academic centers.

  • 607. PritzkerRGCParent  |  March 24, 2015 at 8:57 pm

    @Pritzkeroffer – I certainly had thoughts that our child may feel left out a bit starting in 1st instead of K but it hasn’t been an issue at all. There were 5 new kids total in his class this year so I think that helped as well. We’ve gotten to know some of the other parents casually thru the friends of pritzker group which is nice. If you haven’t visited Pritzker yet, I hope you can attend the open house this weekend. So many of us are looking for different things in schools – a short commute from home and a vibrant arts/music program made Pritzker our first choice RGC. I’d be happy to answer more questions off line if you can figure out how to private message me! Good luck with your decision 🙂

  • 608. Testingforkid2  |  March 24, 2015 at 9:09 pm

    Anyone have any info on how far down Lasalle waitlist moves? We are number 5 (tier 3).

    Also son is at Edison already, but daughter didn’t do so hot with RGC, but got 97R/95Math (tier 3)….thoughts on second round to Skinner North or Decatur? Or third?

    Thanks for any insights!

  • 609. Pritzkeroffer  |  March 24, 2015 at 9:15 pm

    @PritzkerRGCParent, thank you so much for that feedback! If you are comfortable, please email me at pritzkeroffer2015@gmail.com (I just didn’t want to post my personal email here for everyone). I can email you my contact info from that email. We will definitely be attending the open house this weekend.

    Quick question – is the attrition of 5 kids due to parents being unhappy or feeling like it wasn’t a good fit for them or due to moving out of state, etc. Thanks again!

  • 610. DrJohn  |  March 24, 2015 at 9:39 pm

    We will be there (my daughter and I) at the Pritzker open house this Saturday, so hopefully we’ll see you there along with the other families who were offered spots there!

  • 611. Avondale Mom  |  March 24, 2015 at 9:43 pm

    entering K, tier 3
    RGC 133
    no offers at edison, coonley, or NTA.
    any chance for NTA later?

  • 612. Southside sista  |  March 24, 2015 at 9:48 pm

    How much has birth month got to do with score. Does a September child have better/worse/equal chance as a August born ?

  • 613. OIPJEnn  |  March 24, 2015 at 9:50 pm

    tier 4
    RGC 146
    R 89
    M 92
    offered Pritzker

    can’t decide whether or not to accept as it’s pretty far away….wondering what the chance is to get into another school in round 2.

    146 seems to be near the lower end of the RGC scores that are offered a spot…correct me if I’m wrong!

  • 614. brunettechicagogal  |  March 24, 2015 at 10:15 pm

    @StayPositive, I really appreciate your perspective. Even if my son had tested into an RGC, I’d have had misgivings for exactly the reasons you highlighted.

  • 615. Another STEM mom  |  March 24, 2015 at 10:25 pm

    Another STEM mom here, just wanting to give my experience.

    Starting at STEM is like jumping into a pool of cold water. It is rough for a minute, but eventually you will get used to it.

    1. The academics at STEM are top-notch, truly.
    2. On the first day of kindergarten they will ask you to walk your child in, hand them off, and leave. Lingering is prohibited. :’-(
    3. The kindergarten teachers are not warm and fuzzy types. They are friendly teachers with high expectations of students (and parents), but be aware they don’t coddle anyone. If your child loses a worksheet, don’t even think of asking the teacher for another copy. Just ask another parent to scan one for you.
    4. No late work is accepted unless your child is ill.
    5. After school programming (Youth Guidance) is awesome and worth every penny.

    If you are coming from a cuddly, cozy little preschool, you are really going to feel it at first. That is what happened to us. However, our child is learning like crazy, loves school, and the staff and teachers are super-caring, attentive, and communicative.

    We haven’t had any interactions with the principal, except very quickly at school events, so I can’t corroborate other opinions expressed here about her personality. I’ll just say we like the school so far and will be staying.

  • 616. Holly Golightly  |  March 24, 2015 at 10:45 pm

    rgc 123
    math 90
    reading 86

    no offers:( I’m proud of my little guy – he started vomiting a few hours after the test and had a nasty bout of the stomach flu for the next 3 days, so I can’t imagine how he was feeling at the time of the test (which lasted 10-15min tops).

    Lowest waitlist #s: (no offers across the board)
    Disney 1 – 20
    Lasalle 2 – 34
    Belding – 22
    Skinner – 47
    Agassiz – 58
    Chopin – 51

    Do we have a shot at any of these? Also, we are tier 3, HOWEVER, CPS has us in tier 4 queues. How did this happen? CPS’ own website tells me we are tier 3, so did they screw us with this? Did they get this wrong and put us in tier 4 for first round? And if so, now that we are there, are we better off in tier 4 waitlists or should we make a fuss and try to get back into tier 3 waitlists? I have no idea how any of this works…Any help would be appreciated!

  • 617. Lorenzo  |  March 24, 2015 at 11:26 pm

    Struck out @ 24 of 25 (Tier 2, 91 reading, 88 math, 142 gifted) but got offered Pritzker RGC. The overall Pritzker scores on CPS website are not that impressive, does anyone know what the scores are for the RGC only?

  • 618. Tier4Mom  |  March 24, 2015 at 11:29 pm

    Offered Pritzker for K and we are definitely going to the open house this Saturday. We live far North and am a bit anxious about the commute. On the other hand, I am very excited about all the arts programs that are offered. Seems to easily surpass all the other cps schools. It was not our 1st choice but I am beginning to think it might be the best choice for us. Our daughter is very involved in music (violin) and Pritzker really seems to have a nice balance between academics and the arts. Can a Pritzker parent comment on my take on it. Thanks everyone. Daughter scored a 147 – 30 minutes testing time.

  • 619. On vacation during letters mom  |  March 24, 2015 at 11:46 pm

    I am on vacation right now—- and had my neighbor get my mail for me….. Bad move because he just text me small bits of information—And now I’m trying to figure this out while my daughter sleeps. I not well informed of the process so I am hoping someone can clarify.

    My daughter was accepted to RGC Edison (I swear I do not remember applying for this one)

    She scored 95% in reading and 99% in math
    155 was the “gifted” score

    My top choice was one of the skinner schools or Andrew Jackson just for transportation issues. Do I have to decline Edison to be considered for the skinners? If yes, do I have a chance with those math and reading scores?

    We were accepted into the following magnet schools:
    Blaine (neighborhood school– not sure how we got into this one— when I live less than a mile from Andrew Jackson)

    I am really overwhelmed with all of this right now. I have read so many posts on here about people wanting Edison and Hawthorne but I’m nervous about the distance from my apartment, my job and my school. I did not see before school or after school care listed on the website. Does anyone have insight on this? Is parking easy if I hire someone to take her? Is it easy to qualify for bus transportation? Do parents actually send kindergarten children on a bus alone?

  • 620. feeder schools  |  March 24, 2015 at 11:58 pm

    “Do I have to decline Edison to be considered for the skinners?”


    “do I have a chance with those math and reading scores?”

    very risky.

  • 621. ***  |  March 25, 2015 at 12:20 am


  • 622. seriously  |  March 25, 2015 at 12:25 am

    We were offered a seat for Pritzker for 5th, so any information people can provide would be awesome! Thanks in advance!

  • 623. Testingforkid2  |  March 25, 2015 at 12:31 am

    @on vacation during letters mom…my son currently attends Edison, so I will try to answer a few questions for you.

    Parking: IMO not easy around Edison…most of the parking is zoned or you have to pay the meter…what I wouldn’t give for a designated drop off or pick up lane…lots of double parking with hazards even in the small alley and teacher’s lot…I usually circle a few times and wait for him to come out…however, in the younger grades they used to make you “pick up” on the playground…which is for obvious safety issues.

    No before school care, or after care. They do offer some after school enrichment programs (robotics, etc) but they run in 10 week sessions and often start a few weeks after school starts and then have breaks in between. They also go until 4:15 only.

    Agree that many people bus their kids there. However, many are on the bus a very long time, but how comfortable you are with that is up to you.

    We have been very happy there! Congrats on your spot!

  • 624. Bell Follow-up  |  March 25, 2015 at 5:52 am

    @575 First, I would definitely attend the scheduled Bell tour and check out the options portion of the Bell website. http://teacherweb.com/IL/AGBellSchool/RegionalGiftedCenter/apt1.aspx

    I would agree with the other Bell parent that the 1st grade teacher is exceptional. A master teacher with 24 years experience teaching gifted children, a curriculum that is filled with field trips and deep exploration, and a magnificent way of getting the kids excited about learning and eliciting things from them that I as a parent did not realize was possible.

    Do I think the 2nd grade teacher meets that standard? No. But does my kid love school and the teacher? Yes. They are learning things that were not even on my radar when I was in 2nd grade–and doing lots of hands on work exploring where their creative little minds can take them. And my family and my kid are all very happy with the experience.

    I think every school is bigger than one teacher you love or one you don’t. You should look at the totality of the program and decide it is the right fit for you and your kid.

    I don’t want to comment too much on other teachers because I do not have direct experience, but I see the work the older kids are doing and I am expressed. And, I truly (respectfully) do not understand the venom of the other poster.

    The other thing we love about Bell it is a large school with TONS of in school and after school opportunities. Everything from math club to theater to basketball. I feel like everyone can find their niche.

    Good luck with your decision!

  • 625. OfferAtHawthorne  |  March 25, 2015 at 5:57 am

    Good questions about the logistics, on vacation during letters mom. We got an offer at Hawthorne and were also wondering about whether people send K kids in school buses and the lack of after school info. I understand most kids at Hawthorne likely live close to school. But do the ones who live 2 or more miles away do?

    Could anyone with insights about that on Hawthorne kindly share what you think?

  • 626. OfferAtHawthorne  |  March 25, 2015 at 6:00 am

    Madeline, my understanding is that Hawthorne will not hold any tours – group or private.

    If anyone knows differently, please post. Thanks in advance!

  • 627. momofmany  |  March 25, 2015 at 6:06 am


    My dd is in 6th grade RGC at Pritzker now. My ds will be miving there for 5th grade RGC next year. The teachers at those grade levels are amazing, and very dedicated. They will do whatever it takea to make your child successful. Teachers offer tutoring before and after school. There are many before/after school classes some free, some paid. The arts programming is very good.

  • 628. happy@nta  |  March 25, 2015 at 6:29 am

    @596 – re: questions on NTA neighborhood
    Daughter is in RGC K there, but I snoop around in the neighborhood classrooms a lot and talk to other parents all the time because my son will be entering K in 2017 and I want to know what my options look like. At this point I would absolutely send him to NTA neighborhood because the school is working hard to make sure that all of the kids have the same opportunities (world language, swimming, arts/music) and that they have a chance to make friends in the other classes through recess and lunch (they are divided into groups so that they play and eat together every day). The things that I really like about the school (passionate staff, low student:faculty ratio, beautiful and well-kept facilities, extra opportunities see above) are the same for both programs. Hard to say if it would be rigorous enough for an individual, I have heard positive things from parents, though. Please consider checking out an open house: March 26th at 6:30 pm or April 13th at 9:30 am.

  • 629. Looking at NTA  |  March 25, 2015 at 7:11 am

    Thanks so much for your insight! At this point, if the decision were solely up to me, I’d send her.The only thing I have to do now is convince DH. 😀 I’m dragging him to one of the open houses, and I think he’ll be as impressed as I was when I toured the school last year.

  • 630. Hawthorne mom  |  March 25, 2015 at 7:24 am

    I have a current Hawthorne kindergartener so I can answer some of these questions. We live just over the 1.5 mile mark and my daughter takes the bus almost everyday. It is great for us. She gets on at around 8:05 in the morning at our neighborhood school which is a few blocks away. There is a bus coordinator at the school who makes sure she is there and helps her get on and off. She will even text me to make sure we’re coming if we are running late or stand with her if I’m late in he afternoon to get her. She arrives home at 4:15 (bus leaves Hawthone at 3:45ish). She is the last stop on the way home so a bit longer. She just reads on the bus and has made a ton of older friends from the bus. It’s been great and we feel very safe. At Hawthorne they know exactly which kindergarteners are going on the bus each day and they walk them to the bus to put them on. They do encourage you to wait about a month at the beginning of the school year before you put them on the bus since there can be issues until drivers know the routes and everything. My daughter also has 3 friends that take the bus from our stop so that helps. Honestly the bus is one of my favorite parts and I think it’s so confidence building for a kid to get on by themselves and know they can do it.

    With regard to before and after care, I think you can drop off as early as 7, but don’t really know as we’re never there since she takes the bus. They have a right at school program and youe kid can stay everyday until at least 4:30, but I think maybe later. Not sure about that as again she usually takes the bus home or I pick her up. She has friends as far as the south loop who drive so carpooling might also be an option for some.

    Last year when we got in I had not toured and I contacted them to see If I could tour. The principal did give a tour after acceptances went out – there were about 20 of us in the tour and it was on a no school day (I think during spring break).

    We are very happy there. For what it’s worth, we were offered an RGC spot and are most likely going to decline to stay at Hawthorne. My daughter is a very advanced reader (4th grade level in K) and high in math (2nd grade level) and they have been very good to her – she’s learned a ton! I feel like in many ways there standard curriculum is one grade level above (it starts slow in K to catch all kids up, but then accelerate and differentiates as they get to know kids). Location for us is amazing and love the size and overall feel. Families have been very welcoming. Sibling preference also a huge plus. If you have more questions, send me your email through here and I will email you as I dont want to put my personal email on here.

  • 631. Archmom  |  March 25, 2015 at 7:32 am

    @on vacation mom. We have a child at Edison for K currently. The teacher is the best and our kid loves the school. However, if we got in to Hawthorne I would go there. For me a well rounded, high-scoring neighborhood school is the ideal. Edison’s arts is a joke and after school programming is just ok. If you need after-care the kids are bussed to the YMCA on Irving Park. You are so lucky to have the choices you received because all 3 are great schools. If your child already seems interested or excited by the arts then definitely stick with Hawthorne or Blaine.

  • 632. Hawthorne mom  |  March 25, 2015 at 7:40 am

    So embarrassed I put there instead of their. Cleat typing fast – I’ll blame it on autocorrect.

  • 633. ruthcrisler  |  March 25, 2015 at 7:52 am

    Just want to post a shout out to those parents still waiting on their letters. I am right there with you!

  • 634. Southside Susan  |  March 25, 2015 at 8:33 am

    how much has birth month got to do with it? Most of the kids getting in our RGC seem to be Sept-Jan birth days.

  • 635. On vacation during letters mom  |  March 25, 2015 at 8:36 am

    My daughters bday is August 19th— she was offered a spot at edison

  • 636. cpsobsessed  |  March 25, 2015 at 8:39 am

    The scoring takes birth month into acct so it doesn’t matter.

    My sons rgc class has kids with birthdays from sept through aug.

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  • 637. 60660  |  March 25, 2015 at 8:44 am

    From my perspective Hawthorne (if you are proximity or can bus) is pretty much the golden ticket. It benefits from being a magnet located in an affluent neighborhood.
    It has the reputation of being the top “non-selective” school in the city so your child will have a peer group similar to a SEES and siblings get in without having to ace a test or be years ahead in reading in preschool

  • 638. cpsobsessed  |  March 25, 2015 at 8:46 am

    Another hawthorne benefit is fixed class sizes, due to magnet status which doesn’t happen at neighborhood schools.

    (This is true of all magnets)

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  • 639. StayPositive  |  March 25, 2015 at 9:01 am

    In regards to declining RGC/Classical offers in the hopes of receiving other offers – while this has worked for some in the past, the odds are exponentially smaller than the already amazing odds your child has had to receive any placement at all. For the most part, it seems that what you get is what you get.

    If you are one of the lucky few that have options on top of your SEES placement (either a good neighborhood school, or a Magnet placement), that of course can increase the mental anguish of making sure you are making the exact right decision for your child/family.

    Overall, I would say if you have the option of a school with a bus, that’s a benefit. Life changes over the course of 8 or 9 years – and your child in a school with bus service provides you options – you may decide to go back to school, or your job location may change, or you may want to move to a bigger house, etc. – and being accepted into a school that provides bussing (either SEES or Magnet) provides you the option of knowing your kid can always get to/from school no matter what your home/work situation is.

    Layering onto that, having a school with Before/After Care as an option is a benefit. You may not plan to use it, but again – you never know how life will change over the course of 8 or 9 years. Having an option to drop your child off at 7 AM so you can get to a dentist appt. or an early meeting, or needing a later pickup because you have a sick sibling or a meeting that’s running late, is a huge help.

    Having a school with a really robust offering of after school activities is also a benefit. This can also be a sign of a school with a really strong parent/fundraising group, as it takes a lot of time and money for schools to be able to offer these options.

    And then even if you can’t do an official tour of the school based on the timing of when they are offered (for example, we had to make a decision without a tour), I would at least suggest driving through the school’s neighborhood and watching pick up at least one day. These will be the families and children you will be with for many years to come. Do the kids seem happy? Are they speaking kindly to each other? Are they hugging their teachers goodbye for the day? Are the parents interacting with each other at pick up? What type of language are the kids using with each other?

    These will be the parents you will be organizing school parties with. The kids you will be invited to birthday parties and playdates with (and eventually working on group projects with). The families you will be fundraising with in order to provide more options for the school, etc.

    We actually declined a Magnet offer back in the day because we just didn’t feel the warm and fuzzies with the kids/families at pick up – kids roughhousing and cursing, parents not really interacting, nobody really rushing to the playground for some after school fun, the feeling of mass chaos, etc.

    So – long story short – IF you have options (you may not – and whatever option you have you will make into the best it can be!) – consider not just what K means – but consider what life might look like for your family in 5 to 7 years (more kids? bigger house? new job? want to put your older kid in a school-based after-school activity one day a week so you can take your younger child to Wiggleworms? etc.) and see if that adds any more Pros or Cons to your lists 🙂

  • 640. ***  |  March 25, 2015 at 9:29 am


  • 641. also..  |  March 25, 2015 at 9:44 am

    We toured Edison in the fall and the principal reported that of the 32 graduating 8th graders, 31 of them got their 1st choice high school, and 1 of them got their second choice. The previous year 30 got their 1st choice and 2 got their second choice. Not sure what these statistics are for Hawthorne, although I know many Hawthorne children go on to SEHS.

    Another thing to consider is the sibling preference you would get at Hawthorne but not at Edison. If you have younger children, that would be a benefit of Hawthorne.

  • 642. Seriously  |  March 25, 2015 at 9:45 am

    Thank you @momofmany! My ds will be going into fifth 🙂 we are on the far nw side- do you drive or do you have then take the bus? Do they bus?

  • 643. also..  |  March 25, 2015 at 9:45 am

    whoa. I need a comma editor. sorry!

  • 644. SEES Dad  |  March 25, 2015 at 9:47 am

    @619 Vacation Mom – First of all, enjoy your vacation and don’t stress out. You have time.

    I suggest one thing you consider is the curriculum (I have a child at a SEES school, but not Edison). At Edison, your child will be learning ahead of grade level, and will be in a peer group that is also entirely working ahead of grade level. Having our child in a peer group that is made up entirely of really bright kids is maybe the thing we value most in our SEES. If you view this as a benefit, then you should consider Edison.

    On the other hand, Hawthorne gets wonderful scores as a school – I don’t know how they do it as a magnet. You’d expect Edison and other SEES to have top scores because they take all kids who test well, but Hawthorne gets its kids from around the city on a lottery basis. To get the scores they get as a school, they’re obviously doing something right there. And if your child has siblings and you want them at the same school, you get sibling preference with Hawthorne but not Edison.

    Depending on your Tier, 99-95 is a really risky score to bank on when you have Edison and Hawthorne in your pocket.

    These issues, plus your commute, seem like maybe some things to focus on in making your decision. Definitely tour where you can. Good luck.

  • 645. OfferatHawthorne  |  March 25, 2015 at 9:59 am

    Thanks so much for all who have been posting about Hawthorne. Your comments were invaluable to me! Really, really helpful!

    And I have a correction as well. Hawthorne will offer one and only tour in April, but I’m not sure if it is open to anyone or only those who have been offered a position. Contact the school for more details!

    Again, THANK YOU for those commented!

  • 646. momofmany  |  March 25, 2015 at 10:10 am

    @642, This year my dd has taken the bus to school 3 x a week and home from school everyday. It is a long bus ride. We are in Portage Park. Her pickup is at 7:59 am (school starts at 9). Her bus is late getting to school at least 1 x week. They do not count as tardies, though. School dismissal is at 4, and she typically returns to her busstop between 5 and 5:15 (has been as late as 5:30 or 5:45 depending on circumstances).

    They cannot take the bus and do any before and after school programs, so I drive her in 2 mornings a week for cello.

    Next year I will most likely be driving ds to and from Pritzker, because I will already be in Bucktown to take my dd to/from from school at Drummond.

  • 647. Kirsten Bower  |  March 25, 2015 at 10:16 am

    I’ll bring what I have- but I doubt it!!!

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  • 648. fruma  |  March 25, 2015 at 10:52 am

    So we got our letter and we got wait listed for every school we applied too. The lowest number we got was 77 on the list to Waters. Our local school is not really the greatest. I’m so confused on waitlists. We didn’t do any tours either. I’m disabled and my husband just had neck surgery and we just weren’t able to do tours when they were doing them. Do you think if we call and explain our situation they would still allow a tour.
    Help. This is confusing

  • 649. pop  |  March 25, 2015 at 10:54 am

    Has anyone heard about the principal at Skinner North leaving after this year? Not good timing for us as far as I’m concerned.

  • 650. Dadof4  |  March 25, 2015 at 10:54 am

    We had two children test.

    Daughter entering K

    RGC 118

    R88 M99.9

    Offered Hawthorne, no RGC offers

    Son entering 3rd

    RGC 140

    did not take classical test

    tier 4

    No offers, only applied to Bell and Conley.

    Does anyone know the difference between the kindergarten scoring system for the RGC versus the later grades. Specifically, it appears that the kindergarten scores are out of 160 and the later grades are out of 150. There are a lot of posts with scores for kindergarten given that it is the primary entry point, but not so many about the later grades. I’m just trying to infer the strength of my son’s score who is entering third grade by looking at all the data on incoming Kindergarten scores. I understand it is a different process filling 1 or 2 spots in the later grades versus 30 at the entry point, but there are also fewer applicants. Specifically I would like to know if a 140 out of 150 post kindergarten is roughly equivalent to a 149 out of 160 using the kindergarten scale. I’m asking because it seems like most with kindergarten scores in that range were given offers and I would like to have some idea about the likelihood for my son being pulled off a wait list if a spot opens up. Any help would be much appreciated. I waited on hold for 30 minutes and the person I got at CPS did not seem to comprehend my question and would not release any data on cutoff scores.

    One final note, Hawthorne is doing an open house April 13th at 9 am (yes that is the day before letters are due). You are required to sign up, which you can do by calling the school, and I do not know if they are limiting it to those who have been admitted.

  • 651. Skinner North Mom  |  March 25, 2015 at 11:11 am

    #649–re: Skinner North principal

    It’s true. Sort of. The Skinner North principal, Dr. Netterstrom, is a terrific communicator, which has its pluses and minuses. Because he is devoted to the school AND to open communication, he sent the entire a school an email a couple of weeks ago telling us that he is applying for ONE job and one job only–as principal of his neighborhood school where his children attend. Like any job seeker, he has no clue if he will get the job, but he wanted to let us know about it, before the gossip mill started churning. If he does not get that job, he will stay where his heart is–at Skinner North, the school he opened just six years ago. Unlike any job seeker, he had the courtesy to tell us–his other “family”–about it!

    While he has certainly helped create the incredible and unique culture that is Skinner North, he has recruited and hired people who share his simple yet groundbreaking vision of what a good school should be, from teachers to administrators to office assistants. This is a DREAM TEAM of teachers and staff, people!

    I have every confidence that if his successor is the current AP, Katie Magnuson (let’s hope the LSC can see what all of us parents see daily!), we will be in terrific hands.

    Bottom line? A school, when run well and Skinner North is run exceptionally well, is more than one person. Skinner North is a great place because of Dr. Netterstrom, but because of the groundwork he has laid and the incredible people he has hired, it will continue to be a fantastic place!

  • 652. KAmir's Mommy  |  March 25, 2015 at 12:13 pm

    So, we still haven’t received our CPS letter but I did receive an email from Lenart Regional Gifted Center (which was our number one pick) and I just spoke to the Assistant Principal to confirm. We are in!! 🙂 So happy for my son!

    Tier 4
    Entering K

  • 653. Seriously  |  March 25, 2015 at 12:26 pm

    Thanks @momofmany. We are in Jefferson Park so not far from PP. Most likely we will be driving- as my son does a competitive sport in the evenings. If you wouldn’t mind talking off board, email me at awritersdream@gmail.com.

  • 654. Chicago Mom  |  March 25, 2015 at 12:38 pm

    Another principal leaving Chicago.

  • 655. nts  |  March 25, 2015 at 1:10 pm

    @ RogersPark Mama, you mentioned Coonley as the dream school for your dd. Can you please elaborate?

    @ StayPositive, thank you so much for the post about Coonley! I have the rising 5th grader and we feel so lucky to have an offer 🙂

    Is there a band / orchestra program there? Didn’t find any info on that on the website.

  • 656. CPS Mommy  |  March 25, 2015 at 1:17 pm

    Can someone tell me what they know about the quality of NTA’s gifted program? My student was offered a seat for kindergarten.

  • 657. ruthcrisler  |  March 25, 2015 at 1:29 pm

    Finally got our letter.

    Tier 2, entering 1st grade
    RGC 121 (no classical score)
    Offered Bell

  • 658. StayPositive  |  March 25, 2015 at 1:29 pm

    @nts – There is! They actually just had their Show Choir / Band / Orchestra concert a few weeks ago. Show Choir starts as early as Kindergarten – and I believe Orchestra/Band begins at 5th grade. The music program is fantastic and they do a lot of combo activities with the Drama department (including one play each year). Well – maybe it was more Band than Orchestra – but there is a definite program (and they had Coonley Band T-Shirts :)).

  • 659. cpsalum  |  March 25, 2015 at 1:30 pm

    Any incoming 1st grade Bell parents on this thread who can share their RGC score? We were offered our 2nd choice RGC with 1st grade entry point (Bell was our 1st choice) and I’m just wondering how far off the mark we were.

    Also, any Bell parents who got for 1st grade last year…does anyone ever decline their spot? Wondering if there’s even a remote chance if we throw our hat back into the race for 2nd round.

  • 660. cpsalum  |  March 25, 2015 at 1:31 pm

    ^^ just adding to my comment above that we are Tier 4.

  • 661. CoonleyMom  |  March 25, 2015 at 1:37 pm

    My daughter is currently in K at Coonley RGC and I am happy to speak with any prospective parents about our experience this past year. In a nutshell, we were on the fence about sending her originally (as we had already enrolled her in a private school where she attended preschool) but we could not be happier with our decision and the experience she’s had at Coonley this past year. The school, the curriculum, her teacher, her classmates and their parents have all been a wonderful fit for us. My daughter is stimulated (both socially and academically), challenged,
    engaged and loves her class.

  • 662. MB60630  |  March 25, 2015 at 1:40 pm

    Tier 4
    Entering 2nd Grade
    86 %
    No offers (had Beaubien and Bell on the list)

    I really wanted to get my kid out of his super-overcrowded class at his neighborhood school, but doesn’t look like that’s happening.

  • 663. west rogers park mom  |  March 25, 2015 at 1:44 pm

    @655 – Coonley does a very good job responding to parents requests. There is band and show choir but it is before school. Last year band was an ‘elective’ for upper grades but they couldn’t have elective this year because of scheduling conflicts (as a result the kids get lots of advisory time during the day). Band is twice a week at 7:30 am and the band director pulls kids out by instrument for lessons a few times a month. He’s also available for private lesson upon request. The dedication of all of the staff at Coonley is amazing !

  • 664. LSmom  |  March 25, 2015 at 1:47 pm

    @cpsalum, people do turn down Bell spots for first grade, I think there were a handful of changes over the summer last year.

  • 665. Beaubien parent  |  March 25, 2015 at 1:53 pm

    #662–don’t give up. The schools have not yet asked their current students who is staying/leaving (no one asked us!), so how could they know if they have an open spot in 2nd grade? I would call the RGC coordinator at each of those schools and tell them of your interest. My kid’s RGC has lots a kid or two each summer, all the way through. Your kid tested high!

  • 666. nts  |  March 25, 2015 at 1:56 pm

    @StayPositive – that sounds fantastic. My child will be very excited to hear!

    @CoonleyMom & @west rogers park mom – thank you for your feedback.

    Coonley sounds like a nurturing place with so many opportunities beyond the core curriculum.

  • 667. cpsalum  |  March 25, 2015 at 2:05 pm

    @LSmom – thanks, good to know there is some wiggle room. Now I’m just wondering about RGC scores for those offered a spot. I saw someone post from Tier 2 w/ a Bell offer and our score is slightly higher, but we’re in Tier 4 which is typically more competitive score-wise.

  • 668. BC  |  March 25, 2015 at 2:45 pm

    @cpsalum – what was your RGC score and which school did you get into?

  • 669. carlypatz  |  March 25, 2015 at 2:47 pm

    Following. Wait listed on most schools for current first-grader and wait-listed on all schools for current kindergartner.

  • 670. address mixup  |  March 25, 2015 at 2:51 pm

    We still have not received our letter. I just called and found out it went to our old address, which is a tier 3 and our current address is in a tier 4. All I know is we got into Skinner North because I received an email from the school. I have to call tomorrow and they will email me all our results. Question is this: Is there a possibility of losing our Skinner North spot because of the tier being incorrect?

  • 671. momofmany  |  March 25, 2015 at 3:09 pm

    @670, the address used is the one you were living at when you applied. If you moved after you applied then you are fine. If you moved before you applied, but for some reason used your old address you “could” lose your seat. Be sure to send in the modification form to oae, though, so that all of your schools have the right contact info.

  • 672. Ana  |  March 25, 2015 at 3:13 pm

    My son has RGC of 108 but reading is 98% and math is 99%. does anybody know how he could score so low on RGC? he got accepted to Poe (i didn’t even apply there) so i will be declining the offer. Do you think he has a chance of getting accepted anywhere else?

  • 673. 1stgradenow  |  March 25, 2015 at 3:16 pm

    I am not cpsalum, but I have the same question regarding any chance for a different RGC (Bell) in following rounds.

    My daughter’s score is 122, Tier 4. I’m thinking this is too low for a Tier 4 spot.

  • 674. momofmany  |  March 25, 2015 at 3:17 pm

    @672, His score is too low for RGC. He might have a chance for classical if you are tier 1 or 2.

  • 675. happy@nta  |  March 25, 2015 at 3:20 pm

    @656 CPS Mommy re: NTA RGC
    Our daughter is in the RGC Kindergarten and it’s been a fantastic year. Some highlights: creative and passionate staff, interesting and engaging projects, differentiated learning within the class, extras like swimming, Spanish, digital learning and art, at least one field trip per month to concerts, dance performances, Kids Science Labs, racially and socioeconomically diverse class, down-to-earth and involved parents. Daughter skips to school and wants to stay after for hours to play with her friends on the playground.
    A few other parents have written about their experiences on this thread, and no place is perfect for everyone, so I encourage you to explore as much as you can and keep asking questions.
    I hope you’ll consider coming to one of the upcoming open houses:
    March 26th 6:30 pm
    April 13th 9:30 am

  • 676. walker  |  March 25, 2015 at 3:22 pm

    @MB60630 145 is a very good score. My son got 143 last year and got accepted to Edison (2nd grade). The offer came with the 2nd round. I think you need just to wait a bit.

  • 677. 1moreSouthSider  |  March 25, 2015 at 3:25 pm

    NTA comments are also on the South Side Schools thread. Follow

  • 678. Decatur Second Time  |  March 25, 2015 at 3:27 pm

    The email from Decatur went out this afternoon to the parents of accepted children.

    Tier 4
    Math 99.9%
    Reading 99%
    Was in test for 45 minutes

    Decatur was our first choice. Accepted

  • 679. LSmom  |  March 25, 2015 at 3:55 pm

    @1stgradenow and cpsalum, OAE only looks at tiers for the first two rounds, then they make offers based on score alone. Last year, I think the offers in the summer were for scores in the high 120s.

  • 680. Jane  |  March 25, 2015 at 4:13 pm

    @678. Decatur Second Time

    Do you have an older child there? I was curious how many siblings got in this year.

  • 681. Decatur Mom  |  March 25, 2015 at 4:14 pm

    We are current in second grade leaving Decatur so at least one spot will be opening next year. The school has not yet asked families to confirm who will be coming back for next year so don’t feel sad if you receive a rejection for non-K level. Spots will open up.

  • 682. Jane  |  March 25, 2015 at 4:16 pm

    @681 Decatur Mom
    are you same mom who is leaving because they don’t have 7/8?

  • 683. Chicago School GPS  |  March 25, 2015 at 4:24 pm

    For those on the fence about decisions, please try to make an open house or tour where you can usually get a good “feel” for the school, culture and vibe within an hour’s tour. We try to keep an updated calendar of School Tours and Open Houses for any schools we know about, but email us if you know we missed one! http://www.chischoolgps.com/Calendar.php

  • 684. address mixup  |  March 25, 2015 at 4:27 pm

    @Momofmany it was. We sold our condo mid November. We applied beginning or middle of October. Our test was in Dec., but I honestly thought I changed the address.

  • 685. MaryL  |  March 25, 2015 at 5:30 pm

    Decatur Second Time…did you apply for KinderG or Grade 1

  • 686. MaryL  |  March 25, 2015 at 5:38 pm

    Congratulations to all successful children. It’s great to see children scoring so well.

    I am planning to prepare one kid for KG and one for Grad 2. We moved to Chicago recently. Can some successful parent please let me how to best prepare for these exams – some parents pointed to Gifted and Talent development at northwestern in these posts? Is that the right choice or are their better and more options.

    Also, does one need the same preparation for Classical and RGC.

    Any guidance will be very helpful and appreciated.

  • 687. Ruth Crisler  |  March 25, 2015 at 6:26 pm

    I wanted to second the sentiments voiced by CoonleyMom. My son is also in the current RGC K class at Coonley, and I can confirm it has been a wonderful year and a very nurturing environment for him.

    Although we feel conflicted over pulling him from such a wonderful program and school, we look forward to his joining his sister at Bell, a school with which we’ve also been very pleased, and where (unlike Coonley) our son will finally qualify for bussing. It’s been a long year driving through construction for two to three hours per day, alongside our daughter’s bus, which also stops at Coonley. Yeah, long story.

    But good news for at least one family hoping for a 1st grade spot at Coonley, in case anyone is tracking that. I promise to notify the school right away of our decision.

  • 688. SkinnerMama  |  March 25, 2015 at 6:32 pm

    Finally received our letters today:

    Son entering K
    Tier 4
    Reading: 99.9%
    Math: 98%
    RGC: 146
    Tested: 43 mins
    Offered Skinner West. First choice.
    (daughter in first grade at skinner west in classical, too)

  • 689. CPS_Parent  |  March 25, 2015 at 7:10 pm

    ​Is anybody having any idea what we should do if we haven’t received mail yet. We recently moved in other address and already sent contact modification form but not get any update. We have checked at both addresses (old & new) but not received yet.

    Is there any website or contact number where we can check our result.

  • 690. Wondering mom  |  March 25, 2015 at 7:13 pm

    Any chance we will get into skinner north for 1st grade during second round with?
    Math 99
    Reading 98
    (So surprised by the lower reading since reading is by far her strong suit and she’s an extremely high level reader at about mid-4th grade level in K – this testing is so weird).

    There are no decimal points for scores after kindergarten so not sure how high the 99 is. Figuring it’s unlikely, right?

    We have an RGC offer but will pass it up if there might be a SN possibility – I know it’s slim since very few kindergarteners will probably leave (I do have a friend who is leaving to move out of town so i know of at least one 1st grade opening).

  • 691. ppark  |  March 25, 2015 at 7:13 pm

    @689 We are in the same situation as you. I did called today the office of academic and i was told to give them call tomorrow and they”ll email us.

  • 692. CPS_Parent  |  March 25, 2015 at 7:22 pm

    @691, it would be great if you can share the contact number where we call and get the details. Thanks

  • 693. OIPJEnn  |  March 25, 2015 at 7:40 pm

    wondering if anyone has any insight into the following!
    does 146 seem to low to get into any RGC on the northside other than Pritzker??

    tier 4
    RGC 146
    R 89
    M 92
    offered Pritzker

    can’t decide whether or not to accept as it’s pretty far away….wondering what the chance is to get into another school in round 2.

    146 seems to be near the lower end of the RGC scores that are offered a spot…correct me if I’m wrong

  • 694. bwe  |  March 25, 2015 at 8:08 pm

    Tier 4
    RGC 134
    offered Bell 1st grade

    Does anyone know the class sizes for the options program at Bell?

  • 695. ruthcrisler  |  March 25, 2015 at 8:19 pm

    bwe, the 3rd grade option class at Bell is 28 students. A handful have come and gone over the past two years, but I think that number has remained fairly consistent. It may have been 29 at one point, not certain.

  • 696. Curious  |  March 25, 2015 at 8:36 pm

    @Wonderingmom, which RGC do you plan to turn down?

  • 697. 60660  |  March 25, 2015 at 8:49 pm

    The rgc classes used to start at 28 and increase to 32 at 4th grade.but with per capita funding edison now seems to be increasing class sizes earlier. it might be easier to hold the line on this when the RGC is part of a larger school.

  • 698. BarbS  |  March 25, 2015 at 9:28 pm

    MaryL, the classes at the CTD at northwestern don’t really prepare the kids for Cps testing. They do however offer a gifted test that will measure their reading and math abilities. I think the child has to score in the 90th percentile to be eligible to participate in the program. There are however a lot of test prep books available on Amazon for appropriate grades. The gifted test is about logic, identifying patterns, what comes next, etc. the classical is a test of reading and math ability. We started these books several month before the test and did a little everyday. There is no writing on the K test. The children simply point to answers. In the higher grades they have to fill in circles. Hope this helps.

  • 699. 3  |  March 25, 2015 at 9:50 pm

    We live in the Bell area and have children in both programs. Positives to Bell Options are: some great teachers; a strong sports program; and student residencies from fundraising. The negatives are: shaming (by some teachers), a dismissive administration; and alienation between Neighborhood and Options students. Neighborhood families who left Bell Options can speak of this. We have a child in Bell Options and have no beef with Bell. Change is good.

  • 700. MayerVSedison  |  March 25, 2015 at 9:50 pm

    Touring Edison tmrw!

    It’s hard to hear from this thread that the arts program is a joke, I also wish they offered a language other than other than French. We will be entering k and I picked this school due to proximity.

    Any feedback on size vs. enrichment opportunities welcomed!

  • 701. Barb S  |  March 25, 2015 at 10:16 pm

    Can a Beaubien parent chime in about programs offered at Beaubien Rgc…arts, music, language, after school. Their website doesn’t offer much info. Thanks!

  • 702. KG  |  March 25, 2015 at 10:17 pm


    The arts program isn’t a joke, Imo. The projects are well thought out and often intagrated with topics studied in other classes. The fine Arts teacher also teaches at college level (Loyola) However, other classes at Edison leave much to be desired, specifically French, PE and LRC. The LRC & PE teachers often yell and belittle the students, which is unfortunate to say the least, the French teacher is wonderful, but the curriculum is lacking in substance.

    As a parent of a current upperclassman, I also question that every student gets their first choice of high school, as apparently the current principal has claimed to a poster above. This is simply not true. Many do get their school of choice, but it is not 100%.

    There are some truly wonderful teachers at Edison (3rd, 4th, 6th, 7th & 8th – can’t comment on the current, or previous K teacher) there are some not so great ones too. Our experience started off well, but with administration changes and staff changes, our child is ready to leave, and lucky to be one of the ones going to their first choice of schools.

    Good luck with your decision. Attend LSC and PTO meetings before accepting if possible, whichever school you are considering for your child.

  • 703. Barb S  |  March 25, 2015 at 10:18 pm

    Also, any parents that have kids at Beaubien and other Sees.. Can you compare? Thanks

  • 704. @652 Kamir's Mommy  |  March 25, 2015 at 10:29 pm

    Welcome to Lenart! It’s a wonderful little school. Our child is currently there in K and it’s been a great year so far. Congrats!

  • 705. Coonley?  |  March 25, 2015 at 10:30 pm

    Tier 2
    RGC 147
    Reading 93 Math 94
    Offered at Coonley (can’t remember where this was ranked)
    Undecided due to long commute from near south side.
    If anyone knows a family that carpools from Bridgeport/Pilsen/South Loop area to Coonley, please share.
    Best of luck to all.

  • 706. T Pick,  |  March 25, 2015 at 10:30 pm

    Rest assured to anyone awaiting a Hawthorne spot as we will not be accepting…it’s just too far for us. Good Luck !

  • 707. amom  |  March 25, 2015 at 11:01 pm

    @690 wondering mom. There’s a slight chance you could get a spot at Skinner North with those scores (which are strong) but so few students leave you’d be rolling the dice. If a spot opens up, it likely wouldn’t be until later rounds (likely not even 2nd round) since many families don’t notify the school until toward the end of the school year or even afterward. For this year’s class, I think only a few 1st grade spots opening up (maybe 2-3 max) – one was offered I think in the summer and another after the school year started.

  • 708. MaryL  |  March 26, 2015 at 5:44 am

    @BarbS thank you for your reply. Can you tell some books which will be helpful in preparing my child for the testing.
    Thanks again.

  • 709. Barb S  |  March 26, 2015 at 8:03 am

    Sure, I’ll try to get you a list by tomorrow.

  • 710. StayPositive  |  March 26, 2015 at 8:37 am


    I know in our K class, we had someone commuting from Hyde Park (I believe), however they transferred out in 1st (I believe for a more local school). The bus is always an option, so maybe you could test out either all bus, or drive one way/bus the other. They also have a drop off morning program for $5/day (starting at 7 AM) and/or afternoon care through the local Boys/Girls Club (who comes to the school). Coonley is such a fantastic option if you can make it work!

  • 711. ruthcrisler  |  March 26, 2015 at 8:46 am


    Be aware Coonley does not offer bussing below 900 N, despite sharing a bus route with Bell, which does. That said, carpooling may be an option.

  • 712. SR  |  March 26, 2015 at 9:45 am

    For anyone else who did not get letters yet, I just called CPS Office of Access and Enrollment, 312-553-2060 to request our results. The person I spoke to said he was compiling a list and we would receive an email by 5:00 today. It’s quicker if you call from one of the phone numbers you have on file with CPS so they can confirm your email.

  • 713. TigerDad  |  March 26, 2015 at 9:55 am

    The number provided has been disconnected Is there an error in the number?

  • 714. CPS parent  |  March 26, 2015 at 9:58 am

    Can anyone speak about the Skinner West neighborhood program? How does it compare to Skinner West’s Classical program? Is there

  • 715. OutofStateMum  |  March 26, 2015 at 10:00 am

    Just received an acceptance e-mail from Bell. Not sure which kid (currently K and 2nd). very excited.

  • 716. Joy  |  March 26, 2015 at 10:02 am

    Does anyone know where the Skinner North principal is applying?

  • 717. 60660  |  March 26, 2015 at 10:10 am


    imo the art teacher is one of the best teachers at Edison, my kid has done creative and engaging work with her in theater, puppetry, dance, music. painting and more.

  • 718. SR  |  March 26, 2015 at 10:17 am

    Sorry – wrong prefix – the CPS number is 773-553-2060.

  • 719. address mixup  |  March 26, 2015 at 10:18 am

    If you haven’t received your letter, you can also pick up at 42 W. Madison this afternoon. Also, the number to call to get your letter emailed is 773-553-2060, option 3.

  • 720. WL Mom  |  March 26, 2015 at 10:25 am

    @CPS parent – my daughter is in the Skinner West neighborhood program and we have been tremendously pleased this year. She also tested 99/99 but we’re Tier 4 and she did not receive a Classical offer to Skinner. Because we live in the West Loop, Skinner was our only choice. They break up the neighborhood classes into three groups and then have “walking” reading and math, where the teachers teach to the student’s ability. My daughter was grouped into the most advanced of the three groups and she is learning end of 1st grade/early second grade material currently. She’s reading full chapter books. The teachers are committed to pushing the students to their full ability, even in the neighborhood program, even if that ability is significantly higher than grade level. Kindergarten also has a wonderful teacher who has been there for years and has been a pioneer in bringing the Classical curriculum to the Neighborhood program. Ms. Clark – the principal – is also wonderful. Hope this helps! If you’d like to speak more directly, just let me know.

  • 721. Two Schools  |  March 26, 2015 at 10:40 am

    To Barb S. who had two questions above:

    701. Barb S | March 25, 2015 at 10:16 pm

    Can a Beaubien parent chime in about programs offered at Beaubien Rgc…arts, music, language, after school. Their website doesn’t offer much info. Thanks!

    Beaubien has both art and music teachers–a rarity in this CPS world. This year, the entire school started Spanish, and that is getting off the ground so I can’t comment much about it. In the Options program they do Latin also–at first in their main classroom and when they get to 4th grade, they have a dedicated Latin teacher.

    The afterschool programs are generally through the vendor Right at School–check out their web site to see what Beaubien offers (I know there has been chess, lego, homework help). They use the Band for Today vendor for the band program–check out their web site.

    A few afterschool programs are run by teachers and parent volunteers, including chess, dance and Girls on the Run. Some kids take the YMCA bus to the Y on Irving afterschool.

    The level of afterschool programming is not robust, but it has certainly worked for my child. Frankly, we started getting these things when the former principal retired 3 years ago, so it’s all fairly new to us and we are grateful to out new principal (who used to be our AP)!

    703. Barb S | March 25, 2015 at 10:18 pm

    Also, any parents that have kids at Beaubien and other Sees.. Can you compare? Thanks

    It’s hard to compare schools. It’s like picking your favorite child. Each school has given my each of kids something special, something they needed. Something their loving, well-meaning parents with NO teaching experience behind them could not give them.

    I have two kids, in two different schools (Beaubien and Skinner North, a classical). In both places they are surrounded by bright, curious kids who come from caring families. They have made incredible friendships and so have the parents. They have smart teachers who care about them and give them work that challenges and inspires them. They are not coddled or told they are special snowflakes. They work hard.

    I have seen developmental leaps occur that I could only have imagined in my wildest dreams–my older one at Beaubien was just intelligently and persuasively discussing with me whether US prisoners should have the right to vote in jail, fresh from his unit on debate. (Man, I love his teachers this year!) My younger at Skinner North put together a creative and thoughtful Powerpoint presentation on a fun science topic that blew me away last night! (he has had some amazing teachers so far! I can’t wait to see who’s next!)

    In some ways, the schools could not be more different. I think each school has been a good fit for each of my kids. One prefers a big-school “feel,” while the other kid would survive, but prefers that every single person in the school knows his name and what he’s into in his smaller school.

    There has some been some change in Beaubien’s first grade teaching in recent years (one teacher moved, one went to Edison, one became the computer teacher and RGC coordinator), so I cannot speak about the current first grade teacher.

    If you are on the fence on a decision, visit the school in question. Make sure your tour guide knows the gifted program and curriculum well. Sometimes they assign people who are very nice and kind, but do not know the RGC program very well through personal experience. If no one is available, ask to get in contact with a current parent, if possible.

    I have been very pleased with both schools. I still laugh out loud that the world has not discovered the gem that is Beaubien! It’s a good school, in a good neighborhood and near highway exits. Boggles my mind that people do not put it on their lists every year!

  • 722. otdad  |  March 26, 2015 at 10:47 am

    @716. Joy:
    No idea, but could be Prussing if the info from google is not out-of-date.

  • 723. CPS parent  |  March 26, 2015 at 10:53 am

    @720 That is wonderful to here. We are in a similar predicament and are grateful that Skinner West is our neighborhood school. Our daughter tested really well but had no offers either. Thank you!

  • 724. OnTheFence  |  March 26, 2015 at 11:22 am

    Received acceptance letter to Pritzker. We are currently in private. I’m hesitant about leaving. Can any of the current Pritzker parents talk about the relationship dynamic between RGC and non-RGC?

    I have not gotten much good feedback on the actual academics at Pritzker (and test scores are lower than average). I am just hearing the arts program is strong.

  • 725. feeder schools  |  March 26, 2015 at 11:51 am


    In 2010 and 2011, about five students each year got into the “top 4” high schools from Pritzker. I suppose most of them were from the RGC class. People familiar with the school can update us on whether the number has risen in recent years.

  • 726. No longer obsessed  |  March 26, 2015 at 11:53 am

    @700 We were at Edison and chose to leave. Too much homework. (That 22 page hand written report in first grade was absolute torture and waste of life). Art teacher was great and truly educational. Agree PE teacher horrible. Peers are sweet, wonderful kids, but some of the parents are over the top competitive. My child was clearly in the bottom half of the class – which made her think she was ‘stupid’. Highschool looming…probably will opt for a non-SEES due to our experience there.

  • 727. ruthcrisler  |  March 26, 2015 at 12:01 pm

    The homework load in some RGC programs is non-trivial, something to consider when factoring in the impact of a lengthy commute, or relying on bussing or after-school programs.

  • 728. Parent  |  March 26, 2015 at 12:08 pm

    Does anyone have any 4th grade RGC offers? If so, can you share the score and tier? We are 136, tier 4 , no offers. Has 136 worked in past years, in later rounds, for 4th grade at Bell, Coonley, Edison or South Loop? Thanks!

  • 729. Beaubien  |  March 26, 2015 at 12:11 pm

    We are at Beaubien RGC and love it. The Latin teacher is doing all Options classes now once a week, not just 4th and up. Kids also have dance and art once a week and gym 2 x’s a week. Music is every other week (switching w/ Spanish). There is also science lab once a week ( as well as many labs throughout week in classroom) and computer lab once a week. I wish music was more often. It was last year. I have a kid who loves art and while we like the art teacher, I wish there was more. That being said, the kids are moving around and busy all day everyday. There are many projects assigned both group and individual for kids to choose to be creative.

  • 730. Edison?  |  March 26, 2015 at 12:37 pm

    @464 () – My daughter was accepted to Edison RGC for 1st grade. I would love to talk to you off line to get more information. Let me know if you get this message and if you are have a few minutes to talk. Thanks.

  • 731. another Beaubien mom  |  March 26, 2015 at 12:54 pm

    Another Beaubien options parent here. I’ll echo what 729 said–lots of specials. There is a new 1st grade options teacher, who seemed to be hired at the very last minute. She has settled into the job well, and I’ve been impressed with her. My child loves her, she has been very responsive to concerns I have raised about my child, and has worked to advocate for my child when it was needed. She also communicates with parents on a weekly basis re: curriculum on a blog.

    We reluctantly left a very high-performing warm-and-fuzzy CPS school from KG. Beaubien (overall) is not nearly as warm and fuzzy, but the options program has been a perfect fit for my child, who needed a more rigorous curriculum.

    Keep in mind that Beaubien expects the first grade teacher to cover first and second grade in a single year. And, because the kids get grades for the first time, it can be a bit of an adjustment.

    The homework is a weekly packet, with instructions that your child need not spend more than 10 minutes on a single subject (math, reading, spelling) per day, and then read for at least 20 minutes per day.

    Overall, I have been impressed with the teachers I’ve encountered, and all/most of the options teachers seem very well regarded by the options parents.

    Good luck.


  • 732. Barb S  |  March 26, 2015 at 1:13 pm

    Thanks to both Beaubien parents! So the kids start Latin in first grade? And they get one class of Spanish every other week?

  • 733. Curious about Beaubien, too!  |  March 26, 2015 at 1:33 pm

    Barb S. (#732), see 721, 729 and 731 for Beaubien comments.

  • 734. ***  |  March 26, 2015 at 1:39 pm


  • 735. Windom  |  March 26, 2015 at 1:44 pm

    @726 No longer obsessed:
    I have no exposure to Edison but am in the same frame of mind as you and really plan to look at non-selective high schools for my two kids who are both at the same SEES. Not planning to pull either out, and we like the school, and they are keeping up, but am just finding that the amount of plug and chug homework (starting in 2nd/3rd) and the fact that a big percentage (definitely not all, but it’s significant) of the parent community seems focused on their kids reading 10 grades above grade level or on handing in poster board projects that look like a 40yo did all the glue stick work, makes me unsure that this is what is right for them through grade 12. I loved being at a “normal” HS where there was a wide range of interests and capabilities. And parents who love their kids as we all do, but less obsessed with just how brilliant their kiddos are. If I had it to do over again I’m not sure I would choose SEES, but at the same time, I know the grass is always greener…. I’m watching the other CPSO thread about schools like LVHS and Amundsen closely!

  • 736. Bill  |  March 26, 2015 at 1:48 pm

    Hi, 3rd, math 97, reading 99.
    Is there any chance to go to skinner west in the sencond round?
    Any idea would be appreciated.
    Thank you.

  • 737. Edison?  |  March 26, 2015 at 1:59 pm

    @734 that would be great. I appreciate it. beaner71@comcast.net

  • 738. ***  |  March 26, 2015 at 2:33 pm


  • 739. EdisonRGC  |  March 26, 2015 at 2:41 pm

    Tier 4
    RGC 160
    Reading 96 Math 99
    Son entering K offered at Edison.
    We just toured the school this morning. I did not see after school care listed on their website. They seem to have some enrichment activities every day except Friday which go to 4:15pm only. What are the options for working parents? Does anyone at Edison have insight on this?

  • 740. parent  |  March 26, 2015 at 2:50 pm

    I think there is a YMCA program that picks up kids and busses them to the nearest Y if you need something more regular than what they have right at the school. Try calling the Y to ask

  • 741. MomOfTwo  |  March 26, 2015 at 2:56 pm

    Tier 4
    RGC 121
    Reading 93
    Math 86
    SEES Score 787
    Offered Seat at Pritzker for 8 Grade; tested for 1.5 hours. Wanted a AAC seat for 8th, will try again for HS next year 🙂

  • 742. CPS Parent  |  March 26, 2015 at 4:07 pm

    @739- Re Edison after care- In addition to Irving Park YMCA mentioned above (they have a bus that picks up at Edison) many families use the Chicago Park District Park Kids program for after school. I know that some parents are investigating having an after care program at Edison but nothing firm yet.

  • 743. KRV  |  March 26, 2015 at 4:14 pm

    I posted my son’s scores earlier, but wanted to follow-up with a question. Lenart was the only RGC we applied to and he did not get an offer. His RGC score with 131, with 99M/77R on the classical test. What are his odds are of getting an offer there later in the process? I know his reading means he won’t qualify for a classical school, but am I correct in understanding that it wouldn’t matter for RGC? We’re Tier 4.

  • 744. address mixup  |  March 26, 2015 at 4:14 pm

    Went downtown to pick up our letter. Scored 105 Reading 99.9, math 99. Why the huge discrepancy? Anyone know?

  • 745. address mixup  |  March 26, 2015 at 4:18 pm

    We got in Skinner North. Forgot to mention.

  • 746. @743 KRV  |  March 26, 2015 at 4:46 pm

    You are correct. For entry to Lenart which is an RGC, they look only at the RGC score. The classical scores do not matter. Sorry, I have no idea what the chances are for a score of 131. I suppose it depends on how many accept the first round offer. We are accepting Lenart, Tier 3, RGC 144. Best of luck.

  • 747. LS Mom  |  March 26, 2015 at 5:38 pm

    My daughter got RGC 144 and we’re in tier 4. If we accept a lottery position at Stone, could we still get offered a regional gifted spot later in the year? In other words, accepting a lottery school won’t take us off the SEES list?


  • 748. cpsobsessed  |  March 26, 2015 at 5:39 pm

    Nope, lottery won’t affect rgc list.

    Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

  • 749. Coonley parent  |  March 26, 2015 at 5:53 pm

    We live within Coonley boundaries and my younger child who will enter K in the Fall just scored 142 on the test. 86% reading, 97% math. Older son is in 2nd grade neighborhood program. Any chance my younger son will get in on the 2nd or 3rd round for K since his sibling attends already?

  • 750. thirdtimearound  |  March 26, 2015 at 5:54 pm

    Applied for K. Scores were 59% reading and 89% math (I know, I am a slacker mom) and 140 (see, my kid is still smart, right? haha). Tier 2. No offers.

  • 751. Chris  |  March 26, 2015 at 6:39 pm

    “Any chance my younger son will get in on the 2nd or 3rd round for K since his sibling attends already?”

    No sib preference for SEES.

    Based on prior years, seems quite unlikely that 142 will get one of the *maybe* handful of spots that open for K.

  • 752. Tina  |  March 26, 2015 at 8:00 pm

    @728 My kid got an offer for Coonley for next school year’s 4th grade, with a score of 149. It is our third RGC choice after bell and Edison (if I remembered correctly), so I guess 149 was not good enough for Bell and Edison (at least for the 1st).

  • 753. Tina  |  March 26, 2015 at 8:04 pm

    …I meant at least for the 1st round.

  • 754. ruthie60607  |  March 26, 2015 at 8:09 pm

    A few parents of incoming kindergartners at SKinner West are trying to schedule some spring and summer gatherings for the children to meet. If you are interested in joining us, contact me at ruthie60607 @ gmail.com

  • 755. LakeviewMom  |  March 26, 2015 at 9:30 pm

    @address mixup, the reading and math scores are for classical schools and the other score is for RGC schools. Classical doesn’t take into consideration gifted scores and vice versa. We also received an offer from Skinner North and will be at the Open House on the 1st. Hope to see you there. 🙂

  • 756. parent  |  March 26, 2015 at 9:39 pm

    @addressmixup and @lakeview mom
    Were your acceptances to skinner north for kindergarten?

  • 757. LakeviewMom  |  March 26, 2015 at 9:43 pm

    Yes, kindergarten here. You, too?

  • 758. Ruth Crisler  |  March 26, 2015 at 10:17 pm

    @Tina, 149 is an excellent score. It’s possible no 4th grade seats were available at Bell or Edison.

  • 759. address mixup  |  March 26, 2015 at 10:32 pm

    We will be at the open house on Wednesday! My kids will be in a gray/red star coat and a blue horse coat. Our acceptance was to Kindergarten.

  • 760. Skinner mama  |  March 26, 2015 at 11:09 pm

    @ruthie60607 – is this for kids going into classical k at SW or neighborhood?

  • 761. MommyKim  |  March 26, 2015 at 11:37 pm

    Just to let everyone know that after the tour at NTA tonight we will be declining the K spot we were offered. My husband didn’t realize they had the AUSL affiliation and is highly against the concept of cps hiring private contractors to turn around schools…. Wish he would have actually read the school homepage link I sent him. Sigh.

    Other than that it’s a great school for those who don’t get into other RGC or some of the higher achieving magnet/ neighborhood schools. They’re working about 1 year above grade level. It looks as if the 1st grade working about 6 months ahead or less of our 1st grader at Agassiz which is a neighborhood magnet. It’s a little hard to tell since he is an A student.

    Other than our own personal qualms about the AUSL afilliation and a sibling in a different school. I think it is a wonderful school. We would have been happy to make it our school.

    The teachers, administration, and parents seam friendly and very dedicated to the school. I think it will end up be on par with Pritzker as a school as they add more grades into the RGC. If they keep up the work and enthusiasm. The facilities are awesome. They have swimming 1 day a week for everyone. A beautiful spacious art room as well as a large science room. 2 teachers in most of the primary rooms as they train teachers to go to turn around schools.

    I will say if you have a chance between this and Carnegie go with NTA. 1000x better. I definitely would not be discouraged about the 2+ rating. It looks as if they’ll be a 1 next year.

    Hope that helps people! And good luck for our spot.
    Oh I know I posted earlier but our K was tier 4 with a score of 144 if that helps anyone gauge where they’re at.

  • 762. Data Head  |  March 27, 2015 at 12:24 am

    Finally made my way to the end of the comments! (At least, for now.) I tried to compile all 163 of the responses that indicated scores and outcomes (most of which included tiers and grades; I’d guess most that didn’t mention the grade were entry-grade, generally kindergarten, but I don’t know).

    You can see (and download and play with) the compiled list at:

    I’m probably going to do some analysis myself in a bit, but not yet because I’m (1) tired and (2) glum because our son got an RGC seat offer, but it’s so far from home that taking it would mean either super-sized commuting times or putting a 5-year-old on the bus.

    (Based on what I’ve seen here, his scores are not close to the current cutoffs for the RGC closer to home that we really liked. I know he’ll turn out fine, but it is disappointing. And on the other side, we got one offer at a school neither of us actually was comfortable with, and one good wait-list number which may not be good enough. What to do…)

  • 763. Help  |  March 27, 2015 at 6:37 am

    @ MOMMYKIM what is ausl accredidation? I hsve never heard ofvthat? Why is that donething he is not comfortable/happy with it? Is it only in CPS? Thanks for sharing…

  • 764. Round6  |  March 27, 2015 at 7:06 am

    @Data Head – Thanks so much for compiling the data. Very helpful!

  • 765. Robin in WRP  |  March 27, 2015 at 7:07 am

    It’s just another way to drain money for CPS. Mommykim – I agree with your spouse

  • 766. ruthie60607  |  March 27, 2015 at 7:28 am

    The initial plan was to do this for Classical kids, but any SW kids are welcome!

  • 767. ruthcrisler  |  March 27, 2015 at 7:40 am

    For any parents attending Bell’s RGC tour Monday morning, I will be there and am happy to chat with you regarding my older child’s experience. She entered in 1st grade and is now in 3rd.

  • 768. Skinner mama  |  March 27, 2015 at 8:05 am

    @ruthie60607 That’s great! My son’s going into classical k (and my daughter is in classical first grade there), so I would love for him to meet some new friends he’ll be with next year. I’ll be emailing you.

  • 769. NTA mom  |  March 27, 2015 at 8:31 am

    @761 Are you aware the NTA is not a turn around school? It’s affiliation with NTA is as a teacher training academy for change of career people interested in getting into teaching. Teachers spend a full year in the classrooms before they move on to their own classroom. They also attend classes at the same time to become licensed teachers. It is not really any different than TFA–except that teachers are trained for a full year.
    I will add that I am a teacher myself. I went through a regular education program and see many problems with alternative certification routes. I think it is a band-aid solution on a bigger problem. Staffing high-need schools with inexperienced teachers (whichever route they took to be licensed) is not a good solution. Many teacher education programs churn out students that are unprepared to teach on their own, regularly. These teachers only spend 1 semester in the classroom as a student teacher, not a full-year. TFA only trains teachers for a 5 week summer program before they are in the classroom as full time teachers. So is AUSL really doing anything differently than anyone else?
    I like that my child has 3 classroom teachers. The full time teacher is a CPS fully licensed teacher. It is not allowed to be any other way. It is still a CPS school. She has 2 other teacher trainees in the classroom. As a teacher, I would LOVE the extra help! Both of the teachers are young, enthusiastic and working hard to help students learn. I don’t really see a problem with this.
    I don’t care for the AUSL events. They are along the lines of “parent -training” and I find them stupid, culturally insensitive and I just don’t go to them. AUSL does not really have any effect on my child other than the fact he has 3 teachers that he loves instead of 1.
    Just my opinion…

  • 770. address mixup  |  March 27, 2015 at 9:20 am

    762. Data Head you forgot me. RGC 105 Reading 99.9, math 99 accepted to Skinner North

  • 771. LakeviewMom  |  March 27, 2015 at 9:36 am

    @Data Head, RGC 111, Reading 99.8, Math 97, accepted to Skinner North. Not accepted to Coonley.

    Address mixup, see you there! I’ll look for you, we will be there with our son and two year old daughter.

  • 772. KAmir's Mommy  |  March 27, 2015 at 9:40 am

    @Data Head (#762) – Love the compilation!
    We just received our scores yesterday, I had previously mentioned that we were notified of an offer to Lenart but that we had not received our letter.
    (#652 KAmir’s Mommy) So I have more date for you. RGC 140 Reading 91 Math 97 offered Lenart RGC This was our 1st Choice

  • 773. eleven.Se rabattkupong  |  March 27, 2015 at 9:52 am

    Synnerligen kul sagt! Dör för överblicken /xo

  • 774. skinner_bound???  |  March 27, 2015 at 9:59 am

    Does anyone have any info on the Skinner West waitlists. My daughter is 83 on the waitlist? Is there even a chance?

  • 775. CPS parent  |  March 27, 2015 at 10:01 am

    @ WL Mom

    Do you mind if I contact you regarding the Skinner West Neighborhood program?

  • 776. WL Mom  |  March 27, 2015 at 10:13 am

    @CPS Parent Absolutely! Just let me know your email address and I can reach out to connect.

  • 777. CPS parent  |  March 27, 2015 at 10:27 am

    Thanks! It is uiucalum2000@gmail.com

  • 778. TPick-  |  March 27, 2015 at 11:39 am

    O.K…. We visited NTA last night and I must admit, their program is extremely promising.

    Class size-27
    Lots of technology
    Two after school programs.
    Immaculate airy and bright facility
    Great location
    Lots of staff support

    Unfortunately, the neighborhood scores and the RGC scores aren’t divided so there is little transparency regarding the growth of the RGC students.

    What I did notice is that the RGC is way more diverse than the neighborhood component (I believe they are called the Achievers). They seemed to pride themselves on inclusion as far as the neighborhood students intermingling with the RGC students. We are by no means snooty but I noticed that my hubby was a little concerned. He said that he would prefer our daughter attend a school where all of the students were RGC. Please help us on this matter if your child attends NTA. I wonder if the other parents felt the same way.?????

    What I’ve noticed about my friends whose children attend Beasley is that they pride themselves on keeping the children SEPARATE and they don’t give a care about voicing their perspective!!!!!!!!!! Am I missing something here ? To be honest, as a Black woman, who resides in South Shore, I don’t care if my child ever intermingles with anyone from the hood as she can see the elements every time we go to Walgreens. I just want my child to be around like minded individuals with similar values and backgrounds. Sure, I know someone is going to chime in and say that I can’t assume that the children who are from low income homes …….

    All in all I’m thinking that they are trying to attract the siblings of students who tested into the RGC who may not qualify for an RGC slot and make those parents feel comfortable with enrolling their children in the neighborhood program. Everyone keeps saying that this school is a hidden Gem that people will be fighting to get into in a couple of years.

    Thought about throwing my name back in the pool and one of my friends asked me why…I had no answer.

    RGC 144 mind you (my daughter is 4)
    Math 91 Reading 99

    Accepted at Hawthorne(too far)/NTA


  • 779. also..  |  March 27, 2015 at 12:15 pm

    @TPick- Why did you apply to Hawthorne if it is too far, or did you make an unexpected move since then? Also, just curious why you say “mind you, my daughter is 4” regarding her RGC score? The K test is adjusted by birth month, so the entering K children are scored only agains the kids of same or neighboring birth month. Good luck in your decision!

  • 780. TPick-  |  March 27, 2015 at 12:31 pm

    @779 I knew that SOMEONE would ask the question re: Hawthorne. We applied to 16 magnets to increase the chances because the neighborhood is not an option but we are willing to make the sacrifice, as many parents do to attend high quality schools. Imagine if her RGC wasn’t high enough to qualify for anything ? We would really be in a bind. @779 OUT OF 16 YES 16 magnets, she got into 1(one) and wait listed at the others. It’s how we chose to play the game and I’m blessed to have the dilemma of having to choose between NTA and Hawthorne. If you are willing to offer advice regarding NTA, please advise ! Thanks in advance 🙂

  • 781. Norwood  |  March 27, 2015 at 12:56 pm

    @773 Antingen det är spam eller du är i fel forum

  • 782. shikarishambu (@shikarishambu)  |  March 27, 2015 at 1:32 pm

    Had to go to CPS to get the letters. No good news

    Entering K, Tier 2 RGC:124 no offers Classical: R:91 M:80 no offers

    Sibling, already at an RGC took Classical test for Grade 2 (just in case the younger one got classical) R:99 M:58

    I am not sure how they do the classical test but I would say the math numbers came as a surprise

  • 783. Mamallama  |  March 27, 2015 at 3:33 pm

    Hello all. I hope many got good news, and I hope those that didn’t aren’t stressing too much! There are many rounds to come, and then there’s always next year. I just wanted to offer a few comments on some things I’ve seen here this year.

    People are wondering why their child did very well on one test, and not so well on the other. My son (currently in K at Skinner North) did well enough to get a first round offer from SN (>99.9R, 99.8M, Tier 4), and got a 137 on the RGC test. He’s a very bright little boy, and we were a bit surprised by the RGC score. After talking to many parents, this seems to be fairly normal. Nobody seems to know why!

    I’m not going to lie, the bus thing sucks. We live pretty far from SN and my son rides the bus for an hour each way. It’s late coming or going on average about once a week. We’ve had 5 different drivers so far this year. Our solution was to get our son a cell phone. He’s young, but we feel better being able to talk to him. He calls everyday on his way home. (He has no games or other nonsense on it. Just our phone #s in it!)

    There are things we love about SN and things we’re not too fond of. Yes, they get a lot of homework. Projects, daily math sheets, websites they must log onto, and games to play. It doesn’t sound that bad, but we’re talking about 5 year olds so it can take a while. I will say that the things they’re learning are pretty astounding. He comes home with new things to tell us about everyday. He does not seem to be overwhelmed by the work and handles it well. Most of the kids there are the same.

    The overly politically correct atmosphere is a little annoying. Lots of very liberal mindsets, which is fine, as long as it doesn’t interfere with the kids’ learning. I feel it may sometimes. I guess that’s just our personal views though.

    We are very happy overall with SN and feel very fortunate to have a child that goes there. We are hoping that next year our daughter will test well and get in. (Rare, in CPS…but a mom can hope, right?!)

  • 784. LakeviewMom  |  March 27, 2015 at 4:52 pm

    Mamallama, we received an offer from SN for kindergarten next year. Where are you located? We are in Lakeview and assume the bus would pick him up at Blaine next year…or I’ll be driving him. I was pretty excited to hear there is a bus option but having my 5 year old on the bus for an hour each way doesn’t sound that great. But, if it doesn’t seem to bother him I might not mind. It’s definitely worth a try.

  • 785. LakeviewMomToo  |  March 27, 2015 at 5:07 pm

    LakeviewMom, we also live in Lakeview and my 1st grader at SN has taken the bus for 2 years now. From Nettelhorst, it’s an hour in the morning, but only 1/2 hour after school. They bus share with Franklin which means one bus services both schools. Mornings they go to Franklin first (which begins at 8:15am) then to SN (starts at 8:30). It’s nice that they are second to be picked up at the end of the day…so they’re home at a reasonable (ish) time. We may have lucked out on our driver this year (yes we’ve had a few), but he’s almost always on time. Last year it was horrible and inconsistent everyday. It doesn’t come without one or two REALLY inconvenient events…like the one day the driver got a new bus and our stop wasn’t programmed into the computer by accident, so we never got picked up. 40 minutes later I found out what happened and had to drive her to school. I’m a bit torn about how comfortable I am with the bus overall…there are several middle school age kids who aren’t always the best influence on my child.

  • 786. lisa  |  March 27, 2015 at 5:31 pm

    I posted before but forgot to add info.
    RGC 144 Math 94 Reading 87. Testing for 30 minutes.
    No test prep. I am personally against it. Cant remember whether Pritzker or Coonley was first choice but got no offers and in Tier 4. I doubt we will get any offers given the comments. Lincoln is our neighborhood school. Lasalle is across the street from our house and she was 35 on the list.

  • 787. Mamallama  |  March 27, 2015 at 6:06 pm

    Lakeviewmom…..We are in Portage Park. I was really worried about the whole bus thing too. I still don’t like it, but my son does fine with it. Sometimes he sleeps or does his homework. We had a few issues with some of the older kids letting him play inappropriate games on their phones in the beginning, but I talked to them and reminded them that he’s still little and doesn’t need to be playing those types of games. It solved the problem. We finally also got a bus monitor to ride with the kids. It’s nice having an adult on there that isn’t also responsible for driving. Also, each neighborhood school has a bus monitor that works for the neighborhood school, and waits at the stops to make sure the kids get on and off ok. I’d rather drive him, but you get used to the bus thing, and so do the kids. Congrats on the acceptance to SN!

  • 788. CPS Parent  |  March 27, 2015 at 6:17 pm

    I second that. We send our daughter on the bus and it has not been a problem at all – we actually love it. The bus monitor at our local school texts me if she arrives early and I’m not there yet to pick her up and I can text her if we are running late in the morn and the bus will wait (within reason of course). I feel like it is very safe and at least our bus driver assigns the kids seats and really keeps track of any inappropriate interactions. I find it to be a good experience for my daughter and I think she has gained confidence from interacting with older kids – lots of her bus friends are in 3rd grade and above and she’s a kindergartener. Of course there is the occasional bad word heard, but I feel like we shelter our kids too much some times and it’s ok to give her a bit of independence within safe boundaries. Part of the reason we chose to stay in the city was to not get into a car everyday and when we got into a magnet school I was bummed about giving up my dream of walking to the neighborhood school, but the magnet was too good to pass up. I feel like the bus has allowed us to still feel like we’re still kind of walking to school. All of that being said, my daughter does only get picked up 20 minutes before the start of school, so she is on the bus for a short time on the way there. Home is closer to 35 min., but still not bad. Not sure I would be as keen on it if it was a 1+ hour ride there or back.

  • 789. ruthcrisler  |  March 27, 2015 at 6:42 pm


  • 790. ruthcrisler  |  March 27, 2015 at 7:11 pm

    Whoops, I knew I shouldn’t have dusted the keyboard mid-comment.

    …I know the bus is a great fit for many kids, but it can have its pitfalls. While we are enormously grateful for the accommodation (we live six miles from our daughter’s school, and would not be able to swing eight years of transportation to and from on our own), we have not always been able to take advantage of it due to a variety of issues, including no bus aid for most of that time, despite the ride being around 90 minutes each way.

    It really depends on the individual kids, in my opinion. My daughter was not ready for up to three hours per day of unstructured time on a bus at six years old.

    For the record, I’m not suggesting anyone should turn down a great offer just because of bussing fears. But I do recommend you have a plan B, at minimum.

  • 791. OptionsMom  |  March 27, 2015 at 7:15 pm

    @785 LakeviewMomToo Would you share some details about 1grade at SN – what they are learning, testing, what is homework like. Any info would be greatly appreciated!

  • 792. Cyndi  |  March 27, 2015 at 7:15 pm

    Confusion. Someone please help.
    Yesterday I thought I had this all figured out and understood and accepted the outcome of our letters.
    After reading (and scanning some of) these comments I AM UTTERLY CONFUSED!!!

    Entering K

    Live in tier 4

    RGC 144

    Classical R 92 and M 90

    Not offered any RGC or Classical. Backside of my letter said “Selections for the K RGC seats begin as high as 160”.

    Confusion point 1- I saw 2 other posts here, with the identical score of 144, and they were offered a seat at an RGC. But I thought it had to be 160 or better? Also a few people had lower scores than our 144 and were offered spots.

    Confusion point 2 – Lots of chatter about Bell. When I applied to schools last fall, Bell was not listed as an school for my selection. Why would that be? I looked for it under the Bs (for Bell). I looked for it under the As (for Alexander)…It was simply not in the drop down list of schools. Neither was Jamieson.

    Thanks to anyone for insight.

  • 793. ruthcrisler  |  March 27, 2015 at 7:19 pm

    @Cyndi, Bell’s program starts with 1st grade, so Bell will not be an option for your child until next year.

  • 794. sn mom  |  March 27, 2015 at 7:30 pm

    791. Options Mom. I have a son in 1st at SN. There is a homework packet that comes out each Monday. Usually 20 min of reading, a language arts worksheet and a math worksheet each day. The worksheets take about 10 min. There are also some computer programs that compliment the reading and math. Some kids do a little each day. My son usually likes to sit down a couple times a week and will work on everything. I would say 2 hours a week total. Packets are due on Mondays. My child likes homework so it is not a struggle for us. I like that the packet comes out weekly vs. daily homework, so we can plan around other outside activities.

    There are spelling test about every two weeks. There are also Quarterly projects. These take some time. However, it is more about budgeting your child’s time so they don’t get frustrated and working on it a little bit at a time.

  • 795. OptionsMom  |  March 27, 2015 at 7:51 pm

    @ sn mom Thank you! How do they do about reading for homework – does the teacher assign books that are at the student’s level or the child can pick any book?
    Are there any reading or vocabulary tests?

  • 796. sn mom  |  March 27, 2015 at 8:02 pm

    They did assign books in K. In first grade it is just 20 min of free reading. We just have this with our evening routine of reading before bedtime. My son will normally read in bed for about 30 min and will also read in the morning if he is ready early and reads on the way to school. Many kids read in the morning when they get to school and have a few minutes. You will see kids just walking down the hall reading books.

    The past few weeks – they have had to read a worksheet and do some comprehension questions.

    They do have assigned reading groups in class. There are not any vocabulary test.

  • 797. Barb S  |  March 27, 2015 at 9:18 pm

    MaryL, here are some books we used…cogat practice test, analogies for beginners, olsat practice test, thinking skills for tests (you also need answer key for this one) , lollipop logic, also brain quest flash cards and work books..one grade ahead of actual level to prep for test. Hope this helps!

  • 798. Southside Tier 3 Mom  |  March 27, 2015 at 9:30 pm

    We prepped with Brainquest cards and workbooks also. She did pretty well; 99% in trading gor classical.

  • 799. Tmom  |  March 27, 2015 at 10:54 pm

    Tier 2
    RGC 135
    Classical: Reading 99.5 Math 99

    Offered: Skinner North

    Any other Skinner North Offers families?

  • 800. cps mom  |  March 28, 2015 at 7:25 am

    @792 Bell starts at 1st grade. If you are applying to K, that is why it is not listed. 160 is the highest score that your child could have received. (Or >160, actually). With a score of 144, you could get 2nd round offers, depending on where you applied.

  • 801. parent  |  March 28, 2015 at 11:09 am

    Just a quick question. We applied my DD for 1st grade and she took classical and RGC tests and she has scores for both of those tests.

    My question is that I am curious why it says she has a score of 300 under the part that says “Your child’s total point score (only used for academic center and international gifted program applicants.” Why is there a score there since we did not apply/qualify for AC or IGP based on her age? Is that score of 300 based on her MAP scores since she is currently in a CPS kindergarten? Do they have access to the kids MAP scores and do they calculate what their total would be out of 300 should we have applied to AC/IGP? She did score 99th% in reading and math on MAP each time she took the test this year (twice so far) so a score of 300 would make sense, but just weird to me that there is anything on that line at all. Anyone else have a score there?

  • 802. parent  |  March 28, 2015 at 11:14 am

    Chance of getting into Hamilton for 1st grade with WL #26? Also, thoughts about Hamilton’s comprehensive gifted program compared to Hawthorne, Beaubien RGC and Disney comprehensive gifted program?

  • 803. OptionsMom  |  March 28, 2015 at 12:00 pm

    Beaubien RGC- summary for 1 grade. Workbooks used are Reading street , Pearson education. 1 st grade uses mostly the workbooks for 2 nd grade and there is a lot of skipping ( I mean they skip 1st grade rather then doing a review). They have weekly reading and spelling tests. Spelling words are about 18+ 6 optional.
    There is no leveled reader, there are no websites for learning neither for reading or math.
    I am wondering if other schools do reading test of some sort.

  • 804. SloopMama  |  March 28, 2015 at 6:10 pm

    @ProudKellerMom – Just wanted to thank you for inviting prospective Keller RGC families to this morning’s Bunny Breakfast! We had a very nice time checking out the school/community, meeting Keller families and teachers, and creating little works of art 🙂 Most importantly, my 1st grade-bound son seemed happy. What a lovely introduction to Keller – We look forward to next week’s Open House and meeting other prospective families!

  • 805. MaryL  |  March 28, 2015 at 7:12 pm

    @BarbS. Thank you very much for the list of books. I will get those from Amazon. In case you have any other suggestions/ tips please do let us know. Thank you very much.

  • 806. lisa  |  March 28, 2015 at 8:28 pm

    Anyone know the chances of getting an offer to Coonley in Tier 4 score 144?

  • 807. MommyKim  |  March 29, 2015 at 11:55 am

    @763 help and 769 NTA mom

    AUSL is an national organization that CPS contracts with to turn schools around… I am well aware that NTA is not a turnaround school it’s self but they train the teachers to AUSL standards and will place them in the turnaround schools the next year.

    Our problem with AUSL is that when CPS hires them they go in fire the entire staff from the principle down then replace with AUSL staff. It disrupts the community of the school… even the teachers who are wonderful teachers and are dedicated to the school and community get booted. I would really love to see CPS them selfs design a program with the staff that they have and not outsource for problem schools. They other thing about AUSL is that they don’t have to follow CPS policy completely. when I asked at NTA about they are incorporating the required 60 min of movement per day that CPS has instated they responded by saying that it is not legally mandated by the state so they don’t need to follow the mandate and until it’s legally required. The rest of the CPS non charter schools have to follow this mandate and have done it creatively by putting extra recess time or teach yoga in the class rooms.

    NTA seems like it will be a great school when the RGC comes in fully and yes the extra teachers in the class room are awesome… I can see the school moving rapidly up to level 1 status and that is great with what they have to work with. I’m not saying that its a bad school. I liked they way that they mix the RGC students and the regular students throughout the grades through electives…. that is something very unique to RGC programs in neighborhood programs. Pritzker for example mixes kids in plays and extracurricular activities but they don’t mix other than that. They’ve done a better job of not calling the classrooms “gifted” or “options” so that has helped taken the stigma out of separating the school a bit. Coonley, which admittedly I have not visited since 2 years ago when were going through the same process with our old child only mixes students with electives until 2nd grade.

  • 808. Tigerdad  |  March 29, 2015 at 11:55 am

    The books to prepare are ok but not enouph. A lot of practice is needed. There is someone who conducts a class of 10 kids each once a week. Not expensive at all. He charges 100 dollars a month or maybe little less. For parents who are really interested he will even do twice a week for the same cost per month. My friends daughter went to the class and she got a 140. All she has is good attitude. I will send my 7 year old shortly. He provides a lot of practice and is really good. If nothing else the kid will be 2 years ahead when he she goes to school. Let me know if any of u want his contacts.

  • 809. Looking at NTA  |  March 29, 2015 at 12:41 pm

    @MommyKim, I don’t know much about AUSL,but I did just want to mention that if I recall correctly, Ms. Both (the K RGC teacher) said that she has been at the school since it was first built in 2002. I think AUSL took over in 2008, so at least one teacher was not fired in the transfer over.

  • 810. Barbara Szokarski  |  March 29, 2015 at 1:01 pm

    Sue, what’s his contact info? Thanks’

    Sent from my iPhone


  • 811. Whatsamomgottado  |  March 30, 2015 at 9:57 am

    My daughter is Tier 3 entering Kindergarten. RGC 131 Math 87 Reading 86. No offers. We are surprised and disappointed, especially after hearing that Coonley accepted one of her classmates with a 70 for math (Tier 4). This whole “system” seems like witchcraft, and I’m out of fresh chickens.

  • 812. west rogers park mom  |  March 30, 2015 at 10:05 am

    @811- Coonley is a RGC so does not take the classical scores into account. So your daughter’s classmate must have scored much better in the RGC test than the classical test.

  • 813. DrJohn  |  March 30, 2015 at 10:06 am

    Coonley only looks at RGC for admission, not math and reading scores (that’s for classical schools). So one of her classmates getting in with a 70 for math didn’t affect her getting in at Coonley. Good luck!

  • 814. EKN  |  March 30, 2015 at 10:09 am

    1st grade
    RGC 117
    Tier 3
    Offer Keller

    3rd grade
    RGC 121
    Tier 3
    No offers

  • 815. mom  |  March 30, 2015 at 11:29 am

    my daughter is applying for first grade
    reading -97
    math 98
    no offers since they said I did not pick a school:(
    what are her chances of getting into skinner west classical

  • 816. mom  |  March 30, 2015 at 11:33 am

    sorry forgot to say we are in tier 3

  • 817. Barb S  |  March 30, 2015 at 11:49 am

    I would appreciate the contact info for the test prep.

  • 818. KAIDENS MOM ASIA  |  March 30, 2015 at 1:24 pm

    Got accepted into Keller for 1st Grade- really excited! I don’t know anyone that attends or attended this school. Pretty much going off of the internet ratings.

    None of my son’s friends were accepted into this school. New friends will be good but still nervous about the distance from our South Side home to this school.

    Any new Keller parents?

  • 819. Southsider  |  March 30, 2015 at 3:59 pm

    @814 – that’s on the low side score for Keller I’m surprised you got a place first round. Your child will love it , I think.
    It’s a good school and best of luck with it.

  • 820. KAIDENS MOM ASIA  |  March 30, 2015 at 4:32 pm

    Sorry forgot to add score

    Tier 3
    Offer: Keller Regional Gifted Center

  • 821. Whatsamomgottado  |  March 30, 2015 at 4:54 pm

    Anyone know what the RGC cutoff is for Bell as a tier 3?

  • 822. Single Child Mom  |  March 30, 2015 at 5:39 pm

    @818, my child got accepted to Keller for 2nd grade. Just waiting for the open house on Thursday to see if we will accept. We are 12 miles away and don’t know how the traffic is going that way. We’ll see.

  • 823. SloopMama  |  March 30, 2015 at 9:33 pm

    Son was offered Keller 1st grade, we visited the school over the weekend (PTA Bunny Breakfast). Great first impression: warm school community, nice (and very clean!) facility, good diversity…it felt like a small private school tucked away in a quiet, suburban-like neighborhood. We also live >10 miles away from the school – the biggest “con” on our list at this point – but have confirmed eligibility for school bussing from our neighborhood school. Without traffic, it took us 15-20 minutes to get there. But factor in rush hour (although it’s reverse commute heading south, for us) and inclement weather…we will be there for Open House this Thursday and then make our final decision.

  • 824. Gina  |  March 30, 2015 at 9:39 pm

    @705 Coonley?
    Hi I am a current Coonley parent from Bridgeport. We drive and pick up our son each day… Are you still looking for someone to carpool with?

  • 825. OptionsMom  |  March 30, 2015 at 9:49 pm

    @Gina What grade is your child in at Coonley? I am looking for info especially about 2 nd grade. Thank you !

  • 826. MaryL  |  March 30, 2015 at 9:51 pm

    @TigerDad… If possible, please do let me the contact of the person who can help us prepare for the exam. If you can let me know your email, I can email you too. Thank you for your help. Hopefully, his classes will help augment the books my kid will do.

  • 827. wadhwakomal  |  March 30, 2015 at 9:52 pm

    Anyone goes to or planning to send their kids to Decatur from near north area or old town…shout out pls @ wadhwakomal@yahoo.com

  • 828. Gina  |  March 30, 2015 at 10:09 pm

    My son is in K this year.

  • 829. Gina  |  March 30, 2015 at 10:27 pm

    @OptionsMom my son is in K at Coonley this year.

  • 830. MommyKim  |  March 30, 2015 at 11:47 pm

    @809. What I’ve gotten from my friends that are CPS teachers is that the AUSL cooperation fires all of the staff and then will rehire some teachers under the contract of AUSL and not under CPS contract. NTA was a turn around school when AUSL took over. NTA in the beginning was a training school for teachers through the national teachers program. They were working with project kids in the Robert Taylor homes and were not getting the right scores so AUSL was hired in and turned around the school by firing the staff and rehiring some people back. Later in the process South Loop was getting over crowded so they stared phasing out the RGC there and then started phasing it in at NTA under the AUSL contract. Now the teachers who are getting trained are teachers that are under AUSL contract whom either are from the turn around schools in cps retraining or new teachers getting an AUSL certification and placement into those AUSL turn around schools.

    The problem that we have is the same thing as what we have about charter schools. They receive CPS money but they do not have to follow the CPS mandated rules and regulations unless they are mandated by state law. When I asked the question about the CPS mandate that all students receive 60 minutes of movement in the form of extra physical education or extra recess the school counselor told me point blank that unless it was state law they did not have to follow the mandate by CPS. That really rubbed me the wrong way and made me think what other CPS mandates did they not follow because it was not state law.

    I’m not saying that it’s a bad school. If we didn’t have a sibling at another school and we recieved the option for bussing we would have highly considered it if it was our only option compared to our neighborhood school or if we didn’t have a sibling in another school.

    For the one who has the option of Hawthorne vs the RGC program if this is closer to you and you’re ok with the AUSL accreditation- you’ll do fine in the program and it would be comparable to Hawthorne’s program. Just note that they are only working about 1 grade level above vs other top RGCs like Coonley, Edison or Pritzker which are working 2 grade levels above.

    Those worried about the 2+ rating: Take in account that they have not had any of their rankings affected by the RGC program through isat scores yet because they don’t have a third grade class in RGC yet so once that class comes in their isat equivalents (PARCC or whatever the IL state board decides to use) will soar. They already went from a 3 last year to 2+. They dropped to a 3 because they were a receiving school so this year really shows what they were capable of. They’ll more than likely move up to a 1 this year with out even the RGC stats. They really need to do that if they are AUSL’s flagship school.

    For the one who’s husband is worried about mixing. I see great potential in NTA and love the way that the all the students are mixed together and not segregated into two different schools. I think that promotes diversity and understanding of other people. I also think the kids in th RGC will give the other kids in their elective classes that then idea of school is fun and rewarding unlike in some of the families homes where there is no love of school. The school community is helping to take care of those kids who do not get that nourishment from home. In this day and age where we are getting more and more segregated by social-economic status and “our” kids are starting to be only our kids in our home and not the kids in the city I think the mixing will be a great way to build a stable environment for those kids get back to “our” meaning kids in the community instead of just my kids. If he is really worried about the mixing- tour Carnegie and see how they segregate the school and compare it to NTA.

    I hope this has helped. I feel like I’m giving mixed messages. Really it’s a gut feeling. If it feels right then it’s good for you. Make sure to tour during the school day before making your decision. All my experience was off of an evening tour with no kids so I can’t really base what the real dynamics of the school are to what they showed us in an evening tour.

    Now if anyone has any info about Pritzker which is likely our next offer in 2nd or 3rd round- the tour really sucked – I could not get a good idea/ feel of the school with such a large group of people in the tour.

  • 831. CPS mom too  |  March 31, 2015 at 8:03 am

    Just one clarification on NTA – they work 1 grade level ahead in K-2 and then transition to 2 grade levels ahead after that. Not so different from how the other RGCs work, at least from my understanding (although we’re not at other RGCs, so I could be wrong!) Coonley told us on our tour a couple of years ago that they spend a few months on K material and then do 1st grade work in the second part of the year.

    There’s also differentiation and lots of kids reading 2-3 grade levels ahead in our child’s 1st grade class. Because everyone is regularly assessed and encouraged to read at their personal level, there’s plenty of challenge and room to grow. I guess that’s what’s most important for us – rather than the specific grade level.

  • 832. CPS TEACHER/PARENT  |  March 31, 2015 at 8:07 am

    @830 Just to be clear, NTA teachers do NOT work under AUSL contracts. They are regular CPS teachers. Fully certified union teachers under CPS contracts. Only the principals and the teacher trainees work under AUSL. It may be different at turn-around schools, but NTA is NOT a turn around school. It is a teacher-training academy. Every classroom at NTA is staffed with a fully-certified CPS contracted teacher. There are teacher trainees in some classrooms, but there is still a full time, fully certified CPS teacher in each of those rooms. Some rooms only have a CPS teacher and do not have any “trainees.”
    Also, it was the Ickes Homes, not the Robert Taylor homes that were directly behind the school. When those were tore down, obviously enrollment declined at the school.
    Also, the support staff at NTA including all paraprofessionals are all CPS employees. I believe the janitors are now on a private contract, as they are at all CPS schools.

  • 833. Julia  |  March 31, 2015 at 9:36 am

    Can someone explain to me the difference in the test for Classical for Kindergarten and 1st grade? I heard 1st grade is a ‘group’ test – how does that work? Thanks!

  • 834. Natalya GB  |  March 31, 2015 at 9:51 am

    Dear All, does anyone have any thoughts on Peirce vs. Disney? Our daughter is finishing kindergarten at Peirce and we received an offer from Disney. There are advantages about Peirce (close, our neighborhood school), and there are advantages about Disney – we think (perhaps she would get more challenged than she is now). Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

  • 835. StayPositive  |  March 31, 2015 at 9:54 am

    I have very good friends who were at Peirce and then got into Disney and have been beyond happy with the transition. They now have a second child at Disney as well. The first year, she drove them, but now they take the bus and have been doing great.

  • 836. 60660  |  March 31, 2015 at 10:23 am

    @834 Natalya –
    if Disney doesn’t work out you will be able to re-enroll in Peirce whenever you want – even mid-year – so maybe it is worth taking the spot and seeing how things go?
    I know people who love Disney and other families for whom it turned out not to be a good fit.
    For us I didn’t think moving to gen-pop at Disney would be an improvement over what is available at Peirce and CGP comes with its own pressures.

  • 837. address mixup  |  March 31, 2015 at 10:24 am

    Who is going to the Skinner North open house tomorrow? I want to meet you!

  • 838. 1stgradenow  |  March 31, 2015 at 11:44 am

    @Whatsamomgottado, I don’t know the official tier 3 cut off score for Bell, but someone on here posted that their child was offered Bell with a 119 in Tier 3. The lowest I saw for Bell in tier 4 was 129.

  • 839. Michelle  |  March 31, 2015 at 12:12 pm

    @833/Julia: The first grade test for Classical/RGC is a group, rather than one-on-one. When you get to the testing center (at least this is how it was a couple of years ago), you get a number (or a card that’s a specific color, I can’t quite remember) when you check in. Then, test administrators call groups by number (or color card) and those kids who have that specific number/color card line up and are escorted to a room where the test is taken. Though my daughter didn’t have a lot to say on content, she did say she filled in bubbles with a pencil–probably not a scan-tron, per se, but similar. There were other people in the room (meaning more than one test administrator) to help kids who weren’t familiar with what needed to be done in terms of filling in the bubbles, so it’s not a complete sink or swim–meaning, if your child knows the answer but isn’t quite getting the how to answer, there is someone there to offer guidance. If you have specific questions, I can try to answer them.

  • 840. brunettechicagogal  |  March 31, 2015 at 12:56 pm

    Curious for those of you who do test prep and therefore might be more familiar with the structure and content of the test for incoming kindergarteners: After he took the gifted/classical test, my son told me a bit about the questions he was asked. One series of questions consisted of the test facilitator asking him things like, “What do we call the thing that fits over your hand to catch a ball with?” I’ve asked him several times since to tell me more about that series of questions; at first I incorrectly understood that he was shown a card with a picture of the baseball mitt on it and asked to name the item. But he later corrected me and said, no, no card — just the verbal description. At any rate, if that is legitimately a type of question asked during this test, what in heaven’s name is this sort of question assessing??? The only thing I can think of is vocabulary, and if that’s the case, it seems a very invalid and unreliable way of evaluating a child’s knowledge of word definitions AND ability to use words correctly. Seems like purely a knowledge question to me, e.g., depends on whether a child has been exposed to the game of baseball.

  • 841. TiredDad  |  March 31, 2015 at 1:19 pm

    @Komal – When we started out with Decatur, we reached out to some parents in Decatur via the DecaturClassical@yahoogroups.com distribution list. You could find a potential carpool partner. Reach out to the moderators with a request to join and let them know your kid got accepted to K in Decatur.

  • 842. TiredDad  |  March 31, 2015 at 1:27 pm

    I see emails on Test prep and wanted to share our experience. When our little one was entering K we did not prep her at all and she got Math – 93 and Reading >99.9 and RGC – 140. This year we decided to prep her and had her do some tests through Testing Mom over a period of 3-4 weeks for maybe an hour every day and the end result.. the exact same score for RGC – 140 (3 years later) – not sure if the test prep helped ;-). She did not give the classical test only RGC.

  • 843. TiredDad  |  March 31, 2015 at 1:29 pm

    sorry 139 – not 140 score. I am growing old. Forgotten the scores in 2 weeks.

  • 844. kgmom  |  March 31, 2015 at 4:11 pm

    so, while our tier 4 scores of 130 and 96/97 probably won’t get us in anywhere even in later rounds (for KG)…..I am curious, if you enroll in your neighborhood school, does that still keep you on the RGC/Classical “lists”?

  • 845. LearningCPS  |  March 31, 2015 at 4:17 pm

    @844 Yes, you can still get offers from RGC, Classical or Magnets in later rounds even if you enroll in your neighborhood school.

  • 846. Holly  |  March 31, 2015 at 4:37 pm

    To piggy back on that last comment, does that also apply to getting SEES or magnet school offers in later rounds if you enroll in another magnet school (as opposed to your neighborhood school)?

  • 847. LearningCPS  |  March 31, 2015 at 4:48 pm

    Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but I think the only time you get pulled off a list is if you accept an SEES school you will not be given offers to other SEES schools in later rounds. We accepted and enrolled in SEES and got magnet and open enrollment neighborhood school offers close to the start of that school year. I don’t think enrolling in a Magnet schools pulls you off any waiting lists.

  • 848. klm  |  March 31, 2015 at 6:37 pm


    Wow –that’s a really high score.

    I do believe that it may help to do test prep for measuring-academic-knowledge -type tests, since kids always have some areas where they are weak, didn’t “get it,” had a bad teacher that year, etc. For example, differential equations, how to use who/who’s/whose/whom, scientific notation, etc.

    However, for real “natural ability” -type tests, I’m not so sure. Some (relative few) people are hard-wired to rock at the kinds of logic that’s tested on these kinds of IQ-style tests, while most of us are not (I hate that stuff and whenever somebody brings out a ‘mind-twister’ riddle or game, I blank out from lack of interest [heightened by the fact that I kinda’ suck at them], but my ‘gifted’ kid LOVES them and thinks they’re fun to do [because they come easy to him/her]).

    That said, it is just a snapshot of one kind of intelligence, so it’s not indicative of artistic, sports, interpersonal, creative, perseverance, etc., kinds of intelligence that are essential to give people opportunities, advance careers, lead to happy lives, healthy relationships, etc.

    Also, let’s not forget that not every CPS “gifted” students rocks the NWEA, ACT, SAT, etc., —those are not I.Q. tests. Just because a child’s gifted, doesn’t mean that they have a love of learning or like school. Some gifted kids hate school and “book learning,” so they end up going nowhere, don’t learn what they need to know to do well on the ACT, etc., while a “regular” kid may love learning and do great.

    Some of you may remember an article (in, I think, ‘Vanity Fair’) years ago about a reporter who went to a bunch of MENSA meetings and kinda’ found that many of the people weren’t successful at all (some living on welfare, some with menial jobs and still living with their parents, etc.). Lots of people were clinging to the fact that they were in MENSA as a point of pride because that’s all they had going for them. It was kinda’ sad.

    Doing well or not doing well on one ONE test is so unimportant in the big scheme of things (although I know it’s thrilling or tough when thing work out one way or another).

    I know that’s all well-know and kinda’ a no-duh point, but with the high-stakes SE admissions stress it’s important to really consider all that before we as parents start daydreaming about driving to New Haven or Ithaca for Parents’ Weekend.

    Getting into Edison RGC is no guarantee of a future life of success and happiness —-not at all. Some kids at Edison may end up like those sad people at the MENSA meetings feeling smug about their ability to do well on IQ tests, then going back home to their parent’s basement to sleep and get up to make $10/hour at a job that requires no academic skills, except basic ones.

    Not getting into Edison RGC (or similar CPS SE school) likely has 0% to do with how well will do in life, either.

  • 849. ProudKellerMom  |  March 31, 2015 at 9:06 pm

    All Keller New Parents: I look forward to meeting you all on Thursday and sharing my experience as a Keller parent. I was in your position four years ago and haven’t regretted the decision to accept the spot at Keller at all. My son is very involved and I have to almost drag him out of the school everyday. See you all soon!

  • 850. Ogden IG Parent  |  April 1, 2015 at 7:06 am

    Thank You so much for that Clarification on NTA!

  • 851. southside mom  |  April 1, 2015 at 7:37 am

    If Keller is offering seats @ scores of 117 already, and the cutoff is 115 are they going to have a full classroom?

  • 852. Fingers Crossed  |  April 1, 2015 at 10:17 am

    Any chance a 131 gets a later-round offer for 2nd grade at Bell or Coonley? Not sure what prior years have shown. Hopeful but not optimistic …

  • 853. TiredDad  |  April 1, 2015 at 10:30 am

    @ 848 KLM – well said. Thanks for your insight.

  • 854. Sunny  |  April 1, 2015 at 10:53 am

    My daughter tested for K this year (Tier 4). Her classical scores are Reading – 99 and Math -98. No offers and we applied for Skinner North and West. How would you fare our chances in round 2 based on experiences from past stories?

  • 855. cps parent  |  April 1, 2015 at 11:15 am

    fingers crossed – that score is very competitive…. but remember that your seat is more dependent on attrition/departures than on test score. hopeful for you.

  • 856. OptionsMom  |  April 1, 2015 at 11:25 am

    Fingers crossed I am wondering if you are one of those parents that did not submit their applications? They do have two openings for Coonley( going into 2 nd grade next year). Or maybe other kids scored higher

  • 857. mom  |  April 1, 2015 at 11:42 am

    Anyone know when the second round will start?

  • 858. momofmany  |  April 1, 2015 at 12:06 pm

    @857 The second round won’t be until after all of the acceptances are due. So shortly after 4/14.

  • 859. Logan Dad  |  April 1, 2015 at 12:39 pm

    Hi Parents – Are there any Blaine Parents out there? My son is #5 on the waiting list for 1st Grade (he’s in K right now). Does anyone have any insight they can share on the size of the current K-Class or past waiting lists? Thanks!

  • 860. Fingers Crossed  |  April 1, 2015 at 12:46 pm

    @856 – we did preference Coonley and Bell, but did not get into either in the first round. We never heard anything from CPS about not submitting preferences and the letters didn’t say anything to that effect, so I assume they received our preferences and that other kids scored higher.

    Does anyone know whether parents at Coonley/Bell have been asked yet to indicate whether they’re returning?

  • 861. South Loop Mom  |  April 1, 2015 at 1:58 pm

    For anyone interested in National Teachers Academy (NTA), a good way to see what the school is up to/learn more about the vibe is to follow the Facebook Page. Also, search the hashtag #NTALearns on Twitter. They have “Twitter Tuesdays” and teach kids responsible social media engagement as part of the curriculum.

  • 862. Gina  |  April 1, 2015 at 3:25 pm

    @Fingers Crossed… I am a current Kindergarten Coonley parent and they haven’t asked if we will return next year.

  • 863. Missed SN Open House  |  April 2, 2015 at 9:26 am

    My daughter was sick yesterday, so we missed the Skinner North open house! I will call the school today to see if we can visit during spring break. In the meantime, I would like to hear any impressions or feedback from people who were able to go last night…thanks! In particular, how many kindergarten classes do they have? Do they differentiate? Did the neighborhood seem safe to you (I drove by there over the weekend and it seemed ok but it was not on a school day)? Thanks!

  • 864. NewKinderDad  |  April 2, 2015 at 10:03 am

    SN OPEN HOUSE – 2 Kindergarten Classes of 30 kids in each class. 1 teacher per class- no dedicated teacher’s assistant. The two teachers, via an “anonymous” process, select the students for the respective classes to promote a diverse class (reading level, race, etc). Neighborhood seems safe. I was not at all concerned with safety. Principal, LSC President and President of FOSN all presented at the open house. 1 Kinder teacher was also present (she seems awesome). There was a packet circulated that the School would like completed by April 20th. I will be happy to answer any other questions.

  • 865. New SN Family  |  April 2, 2015 at 10:41 am

    @863 re: SN Open House

    My husband and I went yesterday and we REALLY liked it. The building looks a little dated, but inside it was clean and friendly. The neighborhood seemed very safe. There is a Target across the street and we drove by a police station a block away.The people at the school were very welcoming. It was way more laid-back than I would have figured for such a high-achieving school, if that makes sense. I was happy to see that! The parents who were there and gave tours seemed really happy about the school–our tour guide has a third grade child and I spoke with a mom who has a child in kindergarten who sang the school’s praises. We spoke with a kindergarten teacher (I think she said she was there since it opened six years ago?) and she was friendly and her classroom was cheerful–our daughter liked her and hopes she will be her teacher. There is a test the kindergarten kids take in the summer to figure out where your child is at math and reading so that they can better differentiate and build diverse classes of 30 kids per class. They do have an afterschool program, which is important to our family. We are filling out our acceptance paperwork today (not taking a chance at missing the April 20 deadline)!

  • 866. bw  |  April 2, 2015 at 12:55 pm

    Hello! Thanks for this amazing forum. My son has been admitted to Skinner West, for 5th grade, but it seems they are not holding any open houses until after the April 8 deadline for committing has passed. I’d be grateful if anyone who has kids at SW could give your opinions. If you already have, and I missed it, apologies! Thx

  • 867. lisa  |  April 2, 2015 at 7:51 pm

    Skinner North area is still gang territory.It may appear safe but you will find yourself picking up drug baggies around the school if you look down when you walk. its not the kind of area you want your kids hanging around after school, or any other time. It used to be and still is the hood, despite the gentrification. I wouldnt send my kids there.

  • 868. bw  |  April 2, 2015 at 8:21 pm

    @lisa–Not sure if you were replying to my request for information about Skinner WEST, or not. If not, please disregard. Want to add that I’ve been to Skinner North and it’s a lovely campus. I mean, obviously you have strong opinions and I’m not trying to encourage you to send your kids there. Just surprised to hear the school categorized like that–that wasn’t my impression at all.

  • 869. Mamallama  |  April 2, 2015 at 10:34 pm

    lisa….I’m a Chicago police officer and I send my kids to Skinner North. The school is fine, and the area is as safe as anywhere else. There is no area of Chicago that is not gang territory. I mean that very literally (even the precious gold coast has gangs). This is a city of 3 million people. There are gangs and drugs everywhere. Also, this is not the suburbs. Kids don’t hang around at the schools. They come to school and go home. I have been perfectly happy with SN and if I felt that safety was an issue, my kids wouldn’t be there.

  • 870. WHAT WOULD YOU CHOOSE?  |  April 3, 2015 at 10:42 am

    Which would you choose if you had a choice between Pritzker RGC and Bell RGC? Curious to hear other’s thoughts on this.

  • 871. momofmany  |  April 3, 2015 at 10:49 am

    I would choose Pritzker. The largest reason being that it is easier to have siblings eventually end up in the same school. Also, access to the arts is very important to me.

  • 872. Greeley parent  |  April 3, 2015 at 10:53 am

    have friends at both (at various grade levels) and all things being equal – Bell would be the choice. Seems like Bell’s overall school climate is less chaotic/more stable and I think Bell’s principal is a more capable educational leader.
    Focus on the report card scores that pertain to culture/climate and work to find LSC meeting minutes for your own investigation. Just my 2cents.

  • 873. Tier4Mom  |  April 3, 2015 at 11:20 am

    I would choose Pritzker… much less crowded and smaller class sizes! More choices in after and before school programs.

  • 874. TigerDad  |  April 3, 2015 at 12:46 pm

    @ Barbara Szokarski You contact the teacher at SaydilPrep@yahoo.,com. The guy is really good / dedicated and structured. I just found out that he even his daughter did very well.

  • 875. TigerDad  |  April 3, 2015 at 12:48 pm

    @826. MaryL | March 30, 2015 at 9:51 pm
    You can contact the teacher at SaydilPrep@yahoo.com. The guy is really good / dedicated and structured. I just found out that he even his daughter did very well. Just email him and he will respond with his number

  • 876. Bell  |  April 3, 2015 at 1:45 pm

    @870–We had that choice and moved from Pritzker to Bell. It was the right choice for our child. The reasons for us were:

    Bell was closer to our home–child still rides bus, but not as long.

    Principal is a stronger leader and more committed to the Options program. (We found to principal at Pritzker to be unfocused and sometimes unprofessional–although she hires great teachers.)

    The sheer amount of resources Bell has due to the committed fundraising of Friends of Bell. It astounded me when I took the 1st tour of the school.

    We did love the music and arts program at Pritzker, but we find the program equally strong at Bell–although there are fewer opportunities for performance for the younger kids.

    We do miss the diversity (ethnic and socio-economic) that we had a Pritzker. The options program classrooms are somewhat diverse, but the neighborhood program is not.

  • 877. Dad of 2  |  April 3, 2015 at 1:47 pm

    Number of students in the RGC program is fixed. While Bell may be more crowded than Pritzker overall by virtue of their neighborhood programs (I have no idea if that’s true or not), that wouldn’t affect class sizes in the RGC program.

  • 878. Nicole Beavers  |  April 3, 2015 at 6:41 pm

    Wanting to know what classical schools a child is potentially eligible to be accepted into with a 100 reading score and 81 math? So basically we’re still waiting and we’re also on waitlist for several magnet and open enrollment schools with waitlist # as low as 28 and as high as 92 (Ward J, Owen, Murray, Sheridan, Vanderpoel, Suder, Clissold, Sutherland).

  • 879. Coonley?  |  April 5, 2015 at 2:08 pm

    @824 Gina
    Thanks for posting. Yes, we’re still looking for a carpooling arrangement from Pilsen to Coonley! Our daughter is entering kindergarten and was offered a place there. Please feel free to contact me: twcmac at yahoo. Thanks. Trent

  • 880. Saydil Preparatory  |  April 5, 2015 at 9:04 pm


  • 881. Saydil Preparatory  |  April 5, 2015 at 9:11 pm

    Sorry for the last posting. It was incomplete.
    I run Saydil Preparatory. These are classes of 10 students or less specifically for the CPS Gifted Test across grades. I was told by two parents that some of you were interested in the class. I am located downtown. Please email me at saydilprep@yahoo.com if interested.

    Students who took the class tested in the range of 130 to 145 for the RGC and 94+ and 95+ for English and Math respectively


  • 882. Robin in WRP  |  April 6, 2015 at 4:49 am

    Saydil – Do you do a pretest, to judge the students’ progress?

  • 883. Saydil Preparatory  |  April 6, 2015 at 9:51 am

    I currently do not. However, I do one every 2 weeks to check progress. I do not believe in taking only students who meet certain criteria. I believe it is training and practice with good attitude that makes one successful. thanks

  • 884. Saydil Preparatory  |  April 6, 2015 at 11:19 am

    Robin at WRP how old is your child?

  • 885. Robin in WRP  |  April 6, 2015 at 11:31 am

    19 (attended Decatur and Whitney, and scored a 31 on the ACT, without prep). I’m asking for a friend who thought her child should have scored better (the mom is an aluma of Decatur, Whitney and Northside)

  • 886. PookeyMom  |  April 6, 2015 at 11:57 am

    Hi! I was just wondering if anyone would like to share how long the bus ride takes from Lenart to Hyde Park in the afternoon. Also, are there any Hyde Park parents with children entering kindergarten at Lenart who would like to meet? Thank you

  • 887. parent  |  April 6, 2015 at 3:35 pm

    Turning down Disney for 1st grade and Beaubien RGC for 1st. These spots are open now! Good luck!

  • 888. TLTO  |  April 7, 2015 at 7:52 am

    Is it possible to accept a spot at both a magnet and a RGC?

  • 889. For TLTO  |  April 7, 2015 at 9:24 am

    Not sure if it is possible to ‘get away’ with it for a while but you are only supposed to have one offer accepted at a time. At the very least it would be highly unethical.

  • 890. StayPositive  |  April 7, 2015 at 9:47 am

    Your only restriction is on acceptances for Classical or RGCs (you can only accept one and then are out of the rest of the Classical or RGC pools). You can verbally accept as many neighborhood or Magnet schools as you want (in addition to accepting a Classical or RGC) up until the point you physically fill out the paperwork for official acceptance at a school. That said, of course, those desperately sitting on the wait lists hope any double-acceptances are kept to a minimum and for the least amount of time necessary to make your final decision.

  • 891. NewToChicago  |  April 7, 2015 at 9:22 pm

    How does the gifted program compare to top private schools like Latin and Lab? Just moved to Chicago and really need some guidance for choosing the best education for kids. Although the tuition will be a huge burden, we are still willing to do it if it worthies.

  • 892. Random parent  |  April 8, 2015 at 12:19 am

    @891: To each their own. In your opinion, what’s considered best education for kids? Every kids is different.

  • 893. Jen K  |  April 8, 2015 at 10:10 am

    @891 definitely look at all options to find the best fit for your family. Consider the commute, homework load, extracurricular activities, and fundraising requirements (private school cost doesn’t end with tuition and cps schools are just as wanting). Keep in mind, getting into an accelerated cps program is far from guaranteed for even the brightest kids. No one can say public is right for you, or private is right for you. There are cps programs that will compete academically with Latin and Lab, but the class size will likely be significantly different.

  • 894. PookeyMom  |  April 8, 2015 at 11:02 am

    @891 It depends on the age of your child and his/her personality and interests. It also depends on immediate versus long term educational/ character goal. We are leaving a coveted Lab spot for a K spot at Lenart(have heard mixed things about this one but we are taking a chance). Nursery school at Lab was horrendous for our highly gifted/highly sensitive child. Diversity is amazing and the parent’s involvement is outstanding. The new facility is incredible. The level of resources is borderline obnoxious. Older kids, upper grades and middle school, are resourceful, outgoing, very well spoken, think that they deserve the best :o) and have a lot of autonomy. But the play based curriculum and wide range of children’s developmental levels did not work for our son in the early years. As much as he loved his friends, being stuck with kids parallel playing and kids with horrible social skills all day was a nightmare for our son. We ended it up with cynicism about the role of teachers and cynicism about the value of his own positive behavior. We have also witnessed many outlandish behavior issues for which there was no consequence, nursery school children bragging about their world travels and a kind of passive aggressive competition from parents that was troubling( think LOTS of private enrichment to compensate for the play based curriculum). If you can stomach the early years until 3rd grade when traditional academics go from 0 to a hundred in seconds, and the tuition does not seem just like a down payment for a something you might or might not get in the future, Lab is the place. Also, if you work, and cannot pick your child up at 1 on Tuesdays and 2 on the other days, think of adding at least an additional $5,000 to the tuition for after care. This being said, Lab high school might still be worth the tuition. Please feel free to ask additional questions.

  • 895. Southside Tier 3 Mom  |  April 8, 2015 at 11:24 am

    Omg! I had the same experience at the University of Chicago. Last summer I enrolled my now 5 year old in their summer programs to keep her busy and expose her to different types of kids. Unfortunately, the kids were horrible! Some of the meanest, ill mannered kids I’ve ever seen. After she was pushed and elbowed more than once I didn’t feel comfortable leaving her alone! I switched her class to a smaller one, but by then I was so over this costly overrated experience. The instructors were young and did not even attempt discipline measures. Being a teacher myself, I at least expected that “strong voice” …but nope. Kids just running amok and establishing a pecking order. Again, these were just the summer programs but it left such a bad taste in my mouth. At least you can count on some semblance of classroom management at Lenart and the other SEES.

  • 896. PookeyMom  |  April 8, 2015 at 12:21 pm

    @895 I am not surprised. Unfortunately for us, there are some amazing folks we are very sad to leave. Both kids and adults. But overall, at this point the place is not worth it. I am glad you mentioned classroom management. I am somewhat worried about a more authoritarian approach. Is your child at Lenart?

  • 897. Robin in WRP  |  April 8, 2015 at 12:40 pm

    Our daughter was at a wonderful, small private school for K-1, and it was an utter disaster; she was the only reader in K, and pretty ahead in math, too. She was obnoxious and disruptive. We loved the school (North Park elementary) and the parent community (and the awesome before and after school programs), but it was wrong for her. When she started at Decatur for 2nd grade, she blossomed, and regained her love of learning.

  • 898. Southside Tier 3 Mom  |  April 8, 2015 at 12:44 pm

    My daughter is going to McDade in September. However I have a co worker with two girls at Lenart. I have heard great things about both schools. I had the opportunity to meet my daughters future Kindergarten teacher, she doesn’t strike me as a dictator. She was rather friendly and warm. Personally I think kids need structure. What I saw at the University was unnerving.

  • 899. PookeyMom  |  April 8, 2015 at 12:48 pm

    @897 Thank you for your comment! It helps me stay hopeful about our choice. I hope your daughter continues to stay engaged and happy.

  • 900. PookeyMom  |  April 8, 2015 at 12:57 pm

    @898 Thank you! I met the Lenart K teacher and she seems really sweet. I do believe in structure, too. Very much, so. Our son needs it for himself and to help manage the craziness around him. Thank
    you again!

  • 901. NewToChicago  |  April 8, 2015 at 6:12 pm

    Thank you all very much for sharing experiences with private schools. Just wondering if anyone has similar information for Latin school? I heard that Lab is progressive but Latin is more traditional.

  • 902. BSC  |  April 8, 2015 at 6:43 pm

    Has anyone left British to go to CPS? How was the transition? Are you happy to have made the choice?

  • 903. totismomi  |  April 9, 2015 at 7:58 pm

    How are second round offers made? Are they calls or letters? I know magnets call off the waitlist, but rgc’s don’t list a waitlist number.

  • 904. proudtobemom  |  April 9, 2015 at 8:08 pm

    congrats everyone! I just want to say a few words regarding Pritzker Gifted program. Great great program, amazing teachers, amazing school. my son and daughter went there. my son got into Lane in 7th grade (LTAC). and from 30 kids of 6 grade 5 kids got in Lane, 5 into WY. My daughter finishes now 8 grade, she will continue in Lane, from her class many kids got in WY, Jones, and other top schools. there is really strong program in pritzker. GOOD LUCK to all who did not get anywhere …

  • 905. 2nd round SEES  |  April 10, 2015 at 9:22 am

    @903. Our kid’s second round SEES offer last year came via robo call and via email, then a couple days later by snail mail.

  • 906. Pritzker facilities question  |  April 10, 2015 at 1:39 pm

    @proudtobemom – was curious how you felt about the facilities at pritzker as another mom told me she saw cockroaches in the cafeteria. I know this stuff shouldn’t matter but I can’t help but worry about such things.

  • 907. ??  |  April 10, 2015 at 2:01 pm

    These days, you are likely to find cockroaches at any school. Since CPS handed over their cleaning contracts to Aramark, schools (even the “top” ones) have been filthy because a shortage of staff.

  • 908. momofmany  |  April 10, 2015 at 2:17 pm

    Agree with #907. I have kids at 4 different CPS sites. They are all filthy. Aramark expects 1-1 1/2 low paid inexperienced janitors without proper equipment to do the work of 4+ experienced people who knew the school inside and out. As a result the schools are really, very dirty and have pests.

  • 909. Robin in WRP  |  April 10, 2015 at 2:18 pm

    A couple years ago, Decatur had a horrible lice infestation

  • 910. Bugs  |  April 10, 2015 at 2:31 pm

    @908 – can I ask if any of your kids go to Bell or Ogden? Those seem fairly new and clean facilities. Also, to other parents – are you okay with cockroach infestation, etc? Of course, I’m sure you’re not “okay” with it, but meaning, you’re able to look the other way given the academic education your kids are getting?

  • 911. momofmany  |  April 10, 2015 at 2:55 pm

    @910, no neither Bell nor Ogden. And I haven’t been in either so I cannot speak to the quality or cleanliness of their facilities. However, the fact of the matter is that many CPS schools are 80-100+ years old. Old brick buildings have a greater tendency towards infestations even when kept clean. I can’t imagine how any of the older school buildings wouldn’t be having pest problems now that they aren’t being properly cleaned. Breakfast in the classroom also exacerbates the problem, especially when food trash is sitting in unemptied trashcans.

    @906, one of my children does attend Pritzker. She is moving on to WYAC next year, but another one of my children will be moving into the Pritzker RGC. So, no I guess you would say the general cleanliness of the school doesn’t prevent me from sending my kids there.

  • 912. Cathy  |  April 10, 2015 at 3:10 pm

    Weighing in on the sanitary issues in CPS, I have worked at very high performing schools, and the same high performing magnet for the past 8 years. I have never seen a cockroach in a CPS school.

    Also, lice travel among clean heads, not unwashed. So, you would encounter lice at Decatur, Parker, anywhere where little heads are together.

  • 913. Cathy  |  April 10, 2015 at 3:21 pm

    Also, I have worked at Ogden regularly. It is very clean. Not a bug in sight! Parents, I really wouldn’t put too much into this issue, myself! 🙂

  • 914. southside mom  |  April 10, 2015 at 4:28 pm

    Lice happens everywhere. Has nothing to do with “cleanliness.” Even happens in the suburbs (shhh!)

  • 915. Pritzker facilities question  |  April 10, 2015 at 4:41 pm

    Not concerned about lice but roach infestation/rodents.

  • 916. walker  |  April 10, 2015 at 4:41 pm

    Ogden was always clean… very clean taking into account how many kids they have. (I’m talking about elementary)

  • 917. South Loop Mom  |  April 12, 2015 at 6:43 pm

    Reminder: NTA Open House tomorrow (Monday 4/13 @ 9:30am). 55 West Cermak. Parking onsite off of 23rd from State. Or take the Redline, Chinatown Stop of the Green Line Cermak Stop.

  • 918. CityBoy_MayBecome_SuburbDad  |  April 14, 2015 at 10:35 am

    Hawthorne waitlisters there is hope. We just declined the offer. Good luck!

  • 919. Help  |  April 14, 2015 at 10:47 am

    @ cityboy what number where you in the waitlist fir hawthorne???

  • 920. CityBoy_MayBecome_SuburbDad  |  April 14, 2015 at 11:01 am

    No waitlist. We had a seat.

  • 921. Kcabral  |  April 14, 2015 at 1:15 pm

    In case it helps, I know a family who received a K offer for their daughter at Skinner West. They’re turning it down to go to a private Montessori instead.

    So there’s one spot, good luck!

  • 922. southside tier 3 kindergarten mom  |  April 14, 2015 at 1:37 pm

    Is anyone planning to decline an offer from Andrew Jackson in favor of a SEES? My daughter has #3 on the waitlist so I’m praying we get an offer…

  • 923. TPick  |  April 14, 2015 at 2:32 pm

    We visited the NTA morning Open House and we were quite impressed with the climate of the school during the actual school day. The students seemed happy and very well behaved. The lessons were engaging and pretty in depth. One of the first grade RGC classes were studying the different kinds of techniques that animals use to adapt to their surroundings. The students were not phased by our presence. We also visited the Art room which was quite vibrant. During swim class, there were four adults monitoring the students. I was glad that I was able to see how swim class is executed as I was a bit worried. The students also receive Piano lessons in small groups throughout the day. The building is super clean and the lunchroom was very orderly. I’ve been in lunch rooms that look like a jungle gym. All that being said, I feel comfortable with sending my child there. The RGC classes were diverse but the neighborhood classes not so much. A parent from the neighborhood expressed her concern about all of the attention being focused on the RGC. The staff reassured her that there is equity across the board (I totally believe this) but they knew that parents of the potential RGC kids had to make a decision by today. When I visited the open house in the evening, they did have parents there from the neighborhood (achievers) side.

  • 924. k and 2nd  |  April 15, 2015 at 11:01 am

    Turned down our Edison Kindergarten offer today… another spot is open for all you waiting.

  • 925. BC  |  April 15, 2015 at 3:10 pm

    Has anyone turned down any 1st grade classical or gifted offers? If so, what were your scores.

  • 926. Snapshot  |  April 15, 2015 at 8:29 pm

    We were #9 at Hamilton and got an offer. Yay! We’re #6 at Edgebrook and #19 at Newberry. Can anyone let me know what my chances are at those two?

  • 927. klm  |  April 16, 2015 at 8:55 am


    No judgment here, but I’m genuinely curious as to why you turned down Edison RGC.

    A place there is kinda’ the CPS K-8 equivalent of getting into Harvard for college (at least for parents on this site and ones that are tied to CPS, for whatever reason).

    I know I’m being nosy –it’s none of my Gosh Darn business, obviously. There are always good reason for choosing one school over another –just wondering what yours are.

  • 928. Peter  |  April 16, 2015 at 8:57 am

    Sam, unfortunately, it is highly unlikely you will get a spot at Waters with that number.

  • 929. k and 2nd  |  April 16, 2015 at 5:14 pm

    @927 – We really like Hamilton & she got a spot there. She and her sister will be able to go to the same school, both will benefit from Hamilton’s internal gifted curriculum, the community is happy and tight knit, test scores are good, quality of life is awesome (no homework below 3rd grade), and most importantly I’m trying to break the cycle of raising a hyper competitive perfectionist (my default). Ha! That’s the thinking anyway. Plus, I went to a no-name elementary school in a small Florida city and still got into an elite undergrad and law school. Unfortunately our neighborhood school isn’t the best so we had to explore other options.

  • 930. klm  |  April 17, 2015 at 8:25 am


    Sounds like you chose the “right” school for all the right reasons –good for you!

    Just like with colleges, sometimes we as parents can get caught up in the score-based “rankings” rather that looking at the big picture of where our kids and the whole family will be happiest, while at the same time feeling good about the level of learning and instruction, the parent involvement, etc. at certain schools. Kids can get a fantastic education at non-SE schools. There’s so much more to a school and the education one’s kid will receive than where it ranks in the state by average ISAT. Many of us know this instinctively, but are afraid of taking a chance on a school that’s not Lincoln, Edgebrook, Blaine or Bell or would never dream of not taking advantage of a “golden ticket” school like Edison RGC, so hats off to you!

    I know CPS families with 3 different kids in 3 different K-8 schools and they never really have the opportunity to feel like they are in a school “community” because they are juggling 3 different places, groups of peers, parents, PTA’s, etc. (my family’s kinda’ like that, so I know).

    I do think that more people should be aware and recognize the fact that many CPS schools have and will provide designated, specific “gifted/accelerated” lessons to kids that will benefit.

  • 931. DrJohn  |  April 17, 2015 at 2:41 pm

    Anyone know when 2nd round letters go out?

  • 932. ShockAndAwe  |  April 17, 2015 at 2:41 pm

    I find this blog to be a great source of information. But occasionally a comment like #867 sneaks in which is complete misinformation.

  • 933. KA  |  April 17, 2015 at 7:59 pm

    @932 — let’s be real — there are gangs all over the city of Chicago. Some areas are more heavily infested with gang activity, but the reality is that there are gangs in Chicago and they travel all over the city.

  • 934. KaileeMom  |  April 19, 2015 at 3:32 pm

    @Pookeymom, I just accepted a KG spot at Lenart for my daughter and I live in the Bronzeville area right next to Hyde Park.

  • 935. parent  |  April 19, 2015 at 7:56 pm

    Has anyone heard anything about second round SEES offers? Do they come in letters or phone calls? Has anyone gotten one yet?

  • 936. Barb S  |  April 19, 2015 at 8:11 pm

    Was offered a spot for grade 1 at Prescott on Friday. We were #16 on the General list. Will be turning it down tomorrow.

  • 937. Tier4Mom  |  April 19, 2015 at 9:27 pm

    For those of you that accepted an offer from a SES… has anyone heard from the school and/or received a packet of in info.?

  • 938. CuriousMom  |  April 20, 2015 at 8:00 am

    Does anyone have any information on when the second round of SEES offers will start? Have they already started?

  • 939. LearningCPS  |  April 20, 2015 at 8:48 am

    Not sure about other SEES, but Decatur just asked for current students to say whether they were coming back. That was due to the school last Friday, so 2nd round offers for upper grades might happen soon now that they know of any open spots.

  • 940. west rogers park mom  |  April 20, 2015 at 9:25 am

    OAE said they won’t start them until May. I wonder if they are going to look at the pool of students who took the test but never applied first.

  • 941. CuriousMom  |  April 20, 2015 at 11:30 am

    940 and all, where does that situation stand? Is OAE saying they are going to let those that didn’t apply correctly be part of the process now? Not sure it’s fair to include them in the middle of the game now.

  • 942. Second Round Timing  |  April 20, 2015 at 12:04 pm

    Last year, the first round offer deadline to accept was April 11; second round offers came out April 29; and deadline to accept second round offer was May 6. The second round offer came by email and mail.

    This year, first round deadline was April 14. So, second round offers around May 1st would be consistent with prior year timing.

  • 943. Educate Me Please!  |  April 20, 2015 at 1:01 pm

    Does anyone have any thoughts on moving my Kindergartener from Decatur to La Salle 2 next year? We currently commute quite far to Decatur which is why we would consider the move. Also concerned about the lack of 7th/8th grade at Decatur. We are #10 on the wait list for LS2. We have a younger child, so the sibling admission is a benefit at LS2 as well. Kindergartener is doing very well at Decatur. Would be doing same curriculum over again in 1st at LS2 since they work 1 year ahead at Decatur. Is that a big deal in the big picture? Anyone at LS2 who can speak on the teacher ability/interest in differentiating to higher level students?

  • 944. Kaden's Mommy  |  April 20, 2015 at 9:00 pm

    @tier4mom I was wondering the same thing. We haven’t received anything yet. I know the school said they were waiting on their list before they sent packets out, but that was before decisions were due.

  • 945. ruthie60607  |  April 20, 2015 at 9:08 pm

    We received an email and phone call from Skinner West. I also know that other families received some form of communication from Skinner North, Pritzker, Coonley, and NTA. Perhaps it depends on the specific school?

  • 946. LakeviewMom  |  April 21, 2015 at 9:25 am

    We initially received an email from Skinner North inviting us to their open house where we received an info packet that was to be completed and returned by 4/20.

  • 947. KAmir's Mommy  |  April 21, 2015 at 10:02 am

    We initially received an email from Lenart inviting us to their open house but we haven’t received enrollment information as of yet. I spoke to the school around 4/14 and they said they would be sending out further information after they received the final list of students who had accepted offers.

  • 948. Kasak  |  April 21, 2015 at 5:03 pm

    LakeviewMom – Can you share the scores for your child ? We haven’t heard anything yet. We are hoping our child gets into SK N or W.

  • 949. westloopdad  |  April 21, 2015 at 7:22 pm

    I also called the OAE and they mentioned that second rounds for Classical won’t start until May which brings me to my questions:

    1. Does anyone know cutoff scores for Skinner N and W from last year? (I know last years results cannot predict this years outcome)
    2. Does R99.5 and M92 mean higher rank vs R99 and M97 ? Here one of the scores is significantly higher for the first student vs two very good scores for second?
    3. Has anyone compared neighborhood Skinner West program vs STEM?

  • 950. MomOfTwo  |  April 22, 2015 at 5:29 am

    @943 I have a friend who has a child at LSII, she does not think they do a great job of differentiating. That being said, they, as a school, are in the process of learning to be better at this. Also while the level of the material would be the same, the exact content is very likely to be different (e.g. different stories in reading). CPS does not have mandated curriculums across all schools. LSII uses Story Town for reading, I believe. My friend loves the school community and the language classes. I would call LSII and ask how they would address your concerns. Maybe ask to talk to/meet with a 1st grade teacher?

  • 951. LaSalle II Reading Instruction  |  April 22, 2015 at 10:12 am

    LaSalle II uses Reading Street for reading instruction (at least in the lower grades which is what I have experience with.)

  • 952. LakeviewMom  |  April 22, 2015 at 1:55 pm

    @948 Reading 99.8 and Math 97. We are tier 4.

  • 953. TPick  |  April 22, 2015 at 9:40 pm

    Please check your email religiously. Got an email from Hawthorne stating that they tried to reach out to us to accept a position and our phone was disconnected ! Our phone has NEVER been disconnected !

  • 954. Help  |  April 22, 2015 at 9:46 pm

    Tpick what number are you in the waitlist for hawthorne

  • 955. TPick  |  April 22, 2015 at 9:53 pm

    @954 she was never on the wait list. She was accepted during the initial process. They emailed me on the 14th regarding the spot.

  • 956. On vacation during letters mom  |  April 22, 2015 at 10:59 pm

    I think Hawthorne is/was disorganized. I declined a spot twice over the phone and email. I also received an email this past week about registration paperwork after declining!

    I have declined a third time with 4 different people CCed on the email last Friday. Hoping someone else is as excited as we were is getting our spot.

  • 957. Is Skinner West Good?  |  April 23, 2015 at 4:17 pm

    I called OAE office and they said the second-round offer letters will be mailed out on Friday. Phone calls will follow too.

    @westloopdad, I asked OAE how they combined the two scores to determine the ranking. I was told that they do combine the math and reading scores, but using a different score system than what we receive. The score they are using is more spread out, so it’s hard to have a tie.

  • 958. CuriousMom  |  April 24, 2015 at 9:28 am

    @957, do you mean the letters will be mailed out today, or Friday, May 1?

  • 959. Is Skinner West Good?  |  April 24, 2015 at 10:40 am

    @958 Today.

  • 960. CPS parent  |  April 24, 2015 at 2:44 pm

    Any idea of what RGC score (Tier 4) may bring an offer?

  • 961. the Top list  |  April 24, 2015 at 3:34 pm



  • 962. BC  |  April 24, 2015 at 3:39 pm

    Any idea when emails and calls will start? Today, this weekend, or Monday?

  • 963. LSmom  |  April 24, 2015 at 4:25 pm

    @960, depends on the school — late summer offers for the last few years have been around 144/145 for Coonley and Edison, maybe a point or two lower for Pritzker.

  • 964. 5th grade  |  April 24, 2015 at 5:31 pm

    Got an email with an offer to Pritzker for 5th grade.

  • 965. DrJohn  |  April 24, 2015 at 5:32 pm

    Just got an email acceptance from Edison for K, apparently they are emailing today from OAE as well as sending out the letters! Score was 148.

  • 966. keller mom  |  April 24, 2015 at 7:10 pm

    @818: We got the offer for keller 1st grade. Where do you live? Because we live far away from the school (17 miles) , I am wondering if any keller parents can carpool with us?

  • 967. keller mom  |  April 24, 2015 at 7:11 pm

    Any carpool chance? we live at bridgeport area. Thanks!

  • 968. totismomi  |  April 24, 2015 at 7:26 pm

    Dr John, how long do you have to accept? What tier are you and will you be turning down a previously accepted offer?

  • 969. angelak79  |  April 24, 2015 at 8:05 pm

    Got a second round offer from NTA today-
    Tier 4
    RGC 139
    will accept

  • 970. johnamartini  |  April 24, 2015 at 8:34 pm

    Sorry, Tier 4. We turned down an offer at Pritzker. We have until 5pm on May 1st to reply. Assume the formal letter will arrive Friday.

  • 971. Pug  |  April 24, 2015 at 8:46 pm

    For those that got notified today, did the emails come from OAE or from the schools directly?

  • 972. 5th grade  |  April 24, 2015 at 9:14 pm

    The email was from OAE also got a phone call.

  • 973. Martha Smith  |  April 24, 2015 at 9:24 pm

    Angelak79 — congrats! We will be there too. Any other NTA RGC parents out there? Write me at marmarj@gmail.com. Hoping we can get together for some play dates locally this spring/summer.


  • 974. westloopmom  |  April 24, 2015 at 9:25 pm

    What time did you receive the call and email from oae ?

  • 975. 5th grade  |  April 24, 2015 at 9:30 pm

    Email 5:21 pm
    Call 5:24 pm.
    The call was a robo call with the same info from the email.

  • 976. momofmany  |  April 24, 2015 at 9:52 pm

    @964, Congratulations. My son will be in that class. Let me know if you want to talk/meetup.

  • 977. 5th grade  |  April 24, 2015 at 10:02 pm

    Feel free to email me
    Nessamar1132 @ yahoo. Com

  • 978. South Loop Mom  |  April 25, 2015 at 7:03 am

    @969 and @973 – Welcome to NTA! Join the NTA Families Facebook Group and follow the school’s official page too + Friends of NTA page (fundraising). Lots of great information. We have gardens at NTA and are doing some planting in May if you’d like to join us. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1474395349492160/?fref=ts

  • 979. FL to IL  |  April 25, 2015 at 10:47 am

    Can anyone give me some insight: Got an offer into Coonley gifted for K. If I accept, will 3rd grade sibling have a decent chance of getting into the regular neighborhood program there off a “sibling list”?

  • 980. Is Skinner West Good?  |  April 25, 2015 at 6:02 pm

    Anyone got second-round offer from Skinner West or Skinner North?

  • 981. Mom2boys  |  April 25, 2015 at 8:13 pm

    FL to IL, Coonley sibling spots are extremely rare. This year they took one sibling for fourth grade at the start of the year and one other fourth grade sibling last month. That was it. Families with kids keep moving into the boundaries so unless a grade is really short the principal is reluctant to admit from outside the boundary.

  • 982. FL to IL  |  April 25, 2015 at 11:05 pm

    Thanks for the info!

  • 983. NewToChicago  |  April 26, 2015 at 12:40 am

    Living in Lincoln elementary school district and got an offer from coonley. Had thought the gifted program would be the best education for my kid, but start to worry about the every commute due to the traffic. Could someone share some insight about these two programs?

  • 984. feeder schools  |  April 26, 2015 at 1:44 pm

    @983 – totally unnecessary.

  • 985. westloopmom  |  April 26, 2015 at 3:46 pm

    Anyone received a call from Skinner west or north ??

  • 986. cps parent  |  April 26, 2015 at 3:58 pm

    new2chicago – you could try it out and know that you have a wonderful and possibly better option in your own neighborhood.

  • 987. NewToChicago  |  April 27, 2015 at 8:14 am

    Thank you for all the replies. I know that lincoln is a wonderful school , however my kid has been complaining that the content taught was too simple for him (nwea 99% and 98 % for math and reading). So I was hoping the gifted program, which was said to be two grades ahead, could help to fulfill his potentials. Could someone explain why the rgc is not necessary comparing to lincoln?

  • 988. feeder schools  |  April 27, 2015 at 9:16 am

    RGCs and classical schools pack bunches of gifted or precocious kids together. Their good test scores and (not universally) high admission rates to better high schools are not really because the instruction is much better than other schools’. And the jury is still out with regard to Coonley’s high school rate. Moreover, the one or two years ahead elementary curricula don’t matter much in the longer, tougher, and more holistic game of college admission. And your child will miss a lot of what a neighborhood school – whether Lincoln or not – can facilitate.

  • 989. CPS mom too  |  April 27, 2015 at 10:07 am

    Just curious. For folks with recent SEES offers, how long did you have to decide?

  • 990. 5th grade  |  April 27, 2015 at 10:30 am

    May 1st at 5pm
    *The email said Monday May 1st which is confusing but I’m sure they meant Friday May 1st.

  • 991. Lorenzo  |  April 27, 2015 at 1:24 pm

    I checked and they said it was Friday, May 1.

  • 992. ppark  |  April 27, 2015 at 2:14 pm

    FL to IL, to answer your question. Coonley is a great school, but when it comes to siblings getting in (if your child is in a RGC) you are basically out of luck. We have been trying to get my little one for the past 3 yrs, with no luck. But, if i were you I would take a spot.

  • 993. FL to IL  |  April 27, 2015 at 3:31 pm

    Thanks ppark!

  • 994. Coonley?  |  April 27, 2015 at 4:57 pm

    Got a call from LaSalle today, Tier 2, number 7. 72 hours to decide.

  • 995. DrJohn  |  April 27, 2015 at 5:36 pm

    Called LaSalle today, zero movement on Tier 4 K waiting list, not anticipating any as all Tier 4 K spots confirmed their acceptances…

  • 996. Holly  |  April 27, 2015 at 5:40 pm

    Anyone hear of movement on the Lasalle 2 waitlist?

  • 997. For Holly - LaSalle II List  |  April 27, 2015 at 6:29 pm

    LaSalle II has a wait list update on their web site. You can see where they are there.

  • 998. single child mom  |  April 27, 2015 at 6:42 pm

    Anyone accepted to Keller for 2nd grade?

  • 999. totismomi  |  April 27, 2015 at 8:22 pm

    My friend got An email from nta today, inviting her to an openhouse, but says she isn’t being offered a spot. Does that sound right?

  • 1000. NearSouthSider  |  April 28, 2015 at 6:35 am

    I received the same email. Over in the neighborhood/magnet thread, a couple of people posted that for some of the schools where they had low wait-list numbers, they received emails inviting them to an open house. I think NTA is utilizing the same strategy.

  • 1001. CPS mom too  |  April 28, 2015 at 8:34 am

    We also got a call from NTA and they specifically mentioned that our child was on the waitlist and that’s why we were being invited.

  • 1002. Worried mom  |  April 28, 2015 at 8:55 am

    My child scored 125 for 4 th gr entry. Does he have a chance to get into Bell and Edison? What was the last yr cut off score. Your views are welcome? Does he have any chance to get a third round offer?

  • 1003. A few more spots open  |  April 28, 2015 at 9:24 am

    Turned down 1st round offer for 1st for Bell (Tier 2)
    Turned down 1st round offer for 2nd at Skinner West and 2nd round offer for 2nd at NTA.

  • 1004. skinner_bound???  |  April 28, 2015 at 10:47 am

    Any word on the 2nd round letters/notifications? Has anyone gotten anything?

  • 1005. DrJohn  |  April 28, 2015 at 11:01 am

    Emails and calls went out Friday afternoon, letters received yesterday.

  • 1006. JR  |  April 28, 2015 at 12:58 pm

    My son scored 139 RGC and 99.6 reading and 78 math. We are tier 2. I know he does not qualify for Classical. We chose Edison, Coonley, and Pritzker for RGC and have received zero offers.

    I assume a second round at this point is not happening. We also received zero offers in lottery so we have no options. Our neighborhood school is Henry. I know everyone says “it all works out”. It seems in this case it is not really working out. I tried to get information about where the gifted schools are score wise to see if there was any chance and of course got no where. I know this is a SES thread but we were also told pretty much we have no chance with our lottery picks. I am trying to be positive but it’s vey difficult and reading that people have multiple offers is frustrating. Sorry for the rant but I’m somewhat sickened by the whole process.

  • 1007. mom  |  April 28, 2015 at 1:00 pm

    did anyone hear back for skinner west round 2

  • 1008. JR  |  April 28, 2015 at 1:00 pm

    Forgot to mention my son will be in Kindergarten.

  • 1009. skinner_bound???  |  April 28, 2015 at 1:16 pm

    I’m wondering the same #1007. My son’s enrolled in K but we’re hoping for a 1st grade spot for my daughter. What grade is it that you’re in need of?

  • 1010. Southside Tier 3 Mom  |  April 28, 2015 at 1:34 pm

    @1006 JR

    Patrick Henry has a rating 1 standing. You are speaking of the one on St Louis? The 2014 progress Report is not bad at all. I definitely understand your frustration, but is this at least a decent neighborhood contender. I have seen folks stuck with their neighborhood schools that are on probation and rated level 3.

  • 1011. Ruthie60607  |  April 28, 2015 at 1:43 pm

    Regarding Skinner West: when I attended the open house/tour a couple weeks ago, someone mentioned that only two people turned down their original kindergarten offer (don’t quote me on this, though). The administration is offering official registration next week (May 6th and 7th), so I assume there may be more calls/letters after that date.

  • 1012. totismomi  |  April 28, 2015 at 2:14 pm

    Jr. what area do you live in? We are also tier 2 with the same rgc score and 0 offers so far. We have 1 low waitlist number. We are lucky enough to be in a pretty good charter for pre k. They may still have k spots if you are open to a charter and are comfortable on the Westside.

  • 1013. nwparent  |  April 28, 2015 at 4:05 pm

    JR, It wouldn’t surprise me if you get an offer from Pritzker in the summer. Also, look here for neighborhood schools:

    End-of-Year Citywide Options Program

    The Office of Access and Enrollment will have a second application process in May for elementary schools that still have seats available. This process, called the End-of-Year Citywide Options Program, will take place May 11-22, 2015; the application and related material will be accessible on this website, cpsoae.org (under ‘NEWS’), starting May 11th. (Please note that Selective Enrollment schools will not be on this application, but you may find other schools that would be a good fit for your child.)

  • 1014. westloopmom  |  April 28, 2015 at 9:20 pm

    Skinner neighborhood vs Stem magnet which is better ??

  • 1015. Cathy  |  April 28, 2015 at 11:06 pm

    JR, I get the frustration. It’s nice to have a blog like this to get the inside scoop, but to read people deciding between two incredible offers when you have none can be frustrating to say the least. I’d say it’ll work out but none of us really know. Your son sounds super bright, so I get why you would like him in challenging environment. Hang in there.

  • 1016. JR  |  April 29, 2015 at 12:58 pm

    The OAE called my husband back and said there are 100 people ahead of us for Edison and Coonley with a score of 139. There are 50 ahead of us for Pritzker. I hope you are right and we do receive something from Pritzker in the summer but I am not holding my breath.

  • 1017. JR  |  April 29, 2015 at 1:04 pm

    @1010. Southside Tier 3 Mom
    Yes, I am speaking of Henry on St. Louis. I know it could definitely be a lot worse. I read my post again and am now frustrated that the whole process makes me sound like a crazy person. Ha ha.
    We are looking at Henry and will hopefully meet the kindergarten teacher and take a tour. I guess the only way for neighborhood schools to get better is if the people that live near them actually go to them?

  • 1018. CPS parent  |  April 29, 2015 at 2:39 pm

    @ JR, I completely feel your pain. I truly feel that if there are so many kids scoring in the high percentiles for both the RGC and Classical tests who are not being offered spots, there is clearly a need for a)better neighborhood schools that are equipped to work with a wide range of students and b)more options for SEES and Magnet schools.

    You are not a crazy person. This system is unbelievably flawed and unfair.

  • 1019. CoonleyMom  |  May 1, 2015 at 2:58 pm

    @983 FL to IL, Sending our daughter to Coonley RGC for K was one of the best decisions my husband and I have made. I am continually amazed at the things she and her classmates are learning and discussing and the quality of communication from her teacher has been outstanding. I disagree with @988–A few years do matter. There are other things that children gain from an elementary school, besides entry to a specific high school or college. In the right environment, a child will develop a love for school and learning. Surrounded by other classmates who challenge him/her, a child will gain confidence and pride in their scholastic pursuits. This is exactly what my daughter has found at Coonley. I’m happy to answer any questions you may have offline if you prefer. Best of luck and congrats on the offer!

  • 1020. feeder schools  |  May 1, 2015 at 3:59 pm

    “Surrounded by other classmates who challenge him/her, a child will gain confidence and pride in their scholastic pursuits.”

    Do you really believe everyone can get confidence and pride if surrounded by “classmates who challenge him/her”?

  • 1021. cpsobsessed  |  May 3, 2015 at 6:47 pm

    Randomly ran across this on Facebook just now (after following Cheryl Sandburg’s husband’s page to Mark Zuckerburg’s sister’s page who had something to do with this show. A play about the difficulty about applying to Kindergarten in NYC:


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  • 1023. lalsimps  |  May 6, 2015 at 8:26 am

    For anyone that received a 2nd round acceptance to K, do you mind posting your school and scores? Is there any way to figure out where we are on the list?

  • 1024. DrJohn  |  May 6, 2015 at 9:28 am

    Edison, accepted, Tier 4, RGC score 148

  • 1025. TPick-  |  May 6, 2015 at 3:03 pm

    The Selective Enrollment office just sent out survey’s regarding your opinion about the process. Please fill it out ! This is your chance to voice your opinion.

  • 1026. TigerDad  |  May 8, 2015 at 3:03 pm

    any third round offers anybody? any offers into 2nd grade? can someone please post thx

  • 1027. CPS mom too  |  May 8, 2015 at 8:36 pm

    Decatur 2nd grade offer 99 reading 98 math. We’ll decline.

    We thought it might be an option if they moved to Uptown but we’re otherwise happy at our current school.

  • 1028. ExcitedDad  |  May 9, 2015 at 4:04 am

    @1026 Tiger Dad – We received an offer via call / email from Edison Gifted yesterday. Our kid is entering 3rd grade. Tier 4, RGC – 139.

  • 1029. OptionsMom  |  May 9, 2015 at 9:08 am

    @ ExcitedDad. Congrats!!!! In what school is your child now?

  • 1030. LS Mom  |  May 9, 2015 at 9:11 am

    My daughter just got an offer to Pritzker RGC. We are tier 4. Her score was 144. We may not accept for many reasons, especially the anxiety it may cause to be separated from her twin brother. Am I mad? Is refusal in favor of a neighborhood school a sane choice?

  • 1031. Robin in WRP  |  May 9, 2015 at 9:50 am

    LS Mom – Not every school is right for every child. If you believe that your daughter will be sufficiently challenged at the neighborhood school, then leave her there.

  • 1032. walker  |  May 9, 2015 at 10:52 am

    @ExcitedDad Congrats!!! and welcome to the 3rd grade at Edison! If you have any question, feel free to ask.

  • 1033. ExcitedDad  |  May 9, 2015 at 1:10 pm

    Walker@ 1032 – Thanks! Do you have a kid in 3rd grade? Also, is there some kind of a welcome picnic for the new kids to get to know their classmates before school begins?

    OptionsMom@1029 – My kid goes to Decatur Classical.

  • 1034. walker  |  May 9, 2015 at 1:23 pm

    @1033 Yes, I have a kid in 2nd grade (3rd grade next year).
    Here is my email https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Clvv-QcAaWl52iaASqT9NUFVbFAnGneYLZdQ2POVaic/

  • 1035. WL 39 AND 49  |  May 9, 2015 at 4:49 pm

    Does anyone know what waitlist number Coonley and Hawthorne are at??

  • 1036. StayPositive  |  May 9, 2015 at 4:56 pm

    @LS Mom/1030 – it’s of course a personal decision, however I can see how having twins in particular in 2 schools/programs could be quite tough. Their social circles/birthday party invites/work groups will double. You’ll be at 2 different school fundraisers, 2 school plays, 2 PTA meetings, dealing with 2 principals, 2 sets of after school activities and field trips, 2 of everything. And one twin will, in essence, skip a grade of school (RGC basically just gives the kids the books/work/tests for the next grade – Kindergartners work from the 1st Grade Common Core workbooks, etc.) – so both of their homework will be completely different – with the neighborhood child basically repeating the RGC child’s curriculum the following year. Not that you necessarily want to hold one of them back for the sake of the other, but if you feel they are fairly well-matched (and one maybe had a better test day), it could make your life a whole heck of a lot easier to remain at your neighborhood school. If the RGC twin becomes bored/truly isn’t challenged, you could always supplement with extra curricular activities or have them tested again the following year. Food for thought from someone currently managing 2 different schools…

  • 1037. sparklesvira  |  May 11, 2015 at 11:10 am

    Got a phone call and an email from OAE that my son has been accepted into Skinner North for KG. We are Tier 4. He got Reading 99.5 and Math 98. We will be accepting!

  • 1038. westloopdad  |  May 11, 2015 at 4:29 pm

    @1037 congrats! were there other offers for the classical programs?

  • 1039. sparklesvira  |  May 11, 2015 at 4:32 pm

    @1038 Westloopdad – No other offers.

  • 1040. 2nd round SEES  |  May 12, 2015 at 10:08 am

    @Excited Dad – congrats on the Edison offer! Why are you looking to leave Decatur Classical? Might help others who are considering…Thanks!

  • 1041. ExcitedDad  |  May 12, 2015 at 2:10 pm

    Thanks @1040. After 3 years in Decatur, we realized our kid needed a more accelerated program, hence the move. The fact that Edison has 7th and 8th grade also helps. We totally loved the 3 years at Decatur, our little one transitioned from being a shy kid to a very confident one.

    The parent community is very involved and our experience with teachers in K – 2 were good. I have heard that we could do better with the higher grade teachers but I haven’t experienced their methods so wouldn’t like to comment on them.

    Also, our kid did not get into Edison in K and Decatur turned out to be a great second choice for us.

  • 1042. Waitingforwonderwoman  |  May 12, 2015 at 2:57 pm

    Tier 4
    RGC 136
    Given a week to decide. Deadline is this Friday 5 pm.

  • 1043. South Loop Mom  |  May 12, 2015 at 3:40 pm

    Congratulations on the NTA offer! If you have any specific questions, please ask (and check out the South Side thread here). We have two kids at NTA, one in the RGC and one in PreK. We’ve been happy with the teachers/administration/staff, curriculum and growth of the school. This is our second year.

  • 1044. Worried mom  |  May 13, 2015 at 8:40 am

    Got an offer from Keller RGC for 4th grade, but will decline . Good luck everyone.

  • 1045. Waitingforwomderwoman  |  May 13, 2015 at 9:06 am

    @south loop mom- Thanks, I just read through the south loop thread. I have lots of questions about NTA. How can I contact you?

  • 1046. South Loop Mom  |  May 13, 2015 at 10:52 am

    @waitingforwonderwoman – Posting on the South Side thread will likely get you some good responses from a few NTA families. You can also post an email address here and I’ll send you a note, no problem.

  • 1047. KM  |  May 13, 2015 at 12:27 pm

    The average teacher pension in IL is 41,000. Many teachers worked over 34 years to earn that amount. Hardly “living high on the hog.”

  • 1048. Hmmm  |  May 14, 2015 at 8:32 am

    Last Friday, I received a phone call offering our son a 3rd grade seat at Decatur Classical (Tier 3, Reading: 99, Math: 97) . He’s currently at Hawthorne, so it’s a difficult choice.

    Any thoughts are welcome. Thank you in advance for your time.

  • 1049. parent  |  May 14, 2015 at 9:27 am

    For those of you following principal news, the Skinner North principal announced a few weeks ago that he has withdrawn his name from consideration at Prussing. He is staying at SN. The new principal at Prussing was just hired. It is the current AP at Thorp.

  • 1050. chgo mom  |  May 15, 2015 at 2:09 pm

    Anyone following this who was part of the group of parents whose apps were “incomplete” and therefore missed the deadline to apply? We got my 4 y/o daughter’s scores: 93R/95M and RGC 141. Is there anything AT ALL I can do? I’m heartsick.

  • 1051. mom  |  May 16, 2015 at 9:24 am

    @1050 I had called OAE 2 weeks back , my daughter scores are Reading 97and Math 98 and they said they would not consider the application till all the people who have applied refuse their seat , so my guess is that this will go on till school starts and that in short all those kids who applications were incomplete really have no change at all. I hope I am wrong but that’s what I took away from that conversation.

  • 1052. chgo mom  |  May 18, 2015 at 10:18 am

    @1051 yes, that’s what we were told when we figured out we’d made a mistake back in January.

  • 1053. SNMom  |  May 18, 2015 at 8:17 pm

    @1037 @sparklesvira we are going to SN as well! Just started a SN facebook page for our class. Join it so we can schedule to meet!

  • 1054. sparklesvira  |  May 18, 2015 at 9:35 pm

    @1053 SNMom…thats great! Whats the page called? I tried finding it on Facebook!

  • 1055. Old SN Family  |  May 19, 2015 at 8:39 am

    While you’re at it, you new Skinner North families may want to join the PTO’s Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/FriendsofSkinnerNorth

  • 1056. SNMom  |  May 19, 2015 at 11:40 am

    @Sparklevira here is our link.


  • 1057. TigerDad  |  May 20, 2015 at 1:39 pm

    @1028. ExcitedDad | congratulations to you.

  • 1058. Ivi  |  May 21, 2015 at 11:43 am

    Facebook parent group for incoming 1st graders at Beaubien RGC 2015-2016, graduating 2023.
    Get to know each other, share thoughts and ideas.


  • 1059. Southside Tier 3 Mom  |  May 21, 2015 at 11:56 am

    Any parents on this thread of incoming McDade students? I registered my daughter this week for K. Would love to network.

  • 1060. jazzman  |  May 21, 2015 at 10:25 pm

    @southside Tier 3 Mom I have a soon to be 2nd grader at Mcdade glad to help answer any of your questions if i can.

  • 1061. parent  |  May 22, 2015 at 11:33 am

    Just got the call for NTA, Tier 4, RGC 134, K

  • 1062. Murphy Mom  |  May 22, 2015 at 11:41 am

    We decided to decline a spot at Bell (1st gr) last week to stay at our neighborhood school, which is really ramping up its enrichment programs to meet the needs of its gifted kids. Congrats to the child who takes the Bell opening!
    Also just got an offer for Coonley that we will likely decline for the same reasons.
    Best of luck to all to find the school that is the best fit for their children!

  • 1063. LVDad  |  May 22, 2015 at 11:53 am

    I’m poster #178, and my entering K child, 98m/99r tier 4 just got offered a seat at Skinner North. We will be accepting and he’ll be at school with his big sister!

  • 1064. Avondale Mom  |  May 22, 2015 at 11:54 am

    @Murphy Mom — we Just got the call for NTA Gifted for K. (Tier 3, 133) We had already accepted Murphy. I take it you think we should stay at Murphy? 🙂

  • 1065. Mom  |  May 22, 2015 at 11:54 am

    Any 3rd rounds for Bell 1st? Please let me know your test scores and tiers. Needed to know how close we at because we just got an offer for NTA. Bell is our 1st choice. Please!!!

  • 1066. Mom  |  May 22, 2015 at 12:14 pm

    @murphymom please let me know your scores and tiers. We hoping for Bell but we got offer for NTA. Wondering if we declines the offer what the chances for bell. Need to know how close we get.

  • 1067. westloopdad  |  May 22, 2015 at 12:15 pm

    @LVDad we have the same scores and tier but no offer :(! When did your offer come in.

  • 1068. Skinner West  |  May 22, 2015 at 12:20 pm

    Just got an offer for Skinner West for 2nd grade. 99/99. I’m wondering if anyone has any recent info on the overcrowding issue I’ve seen posted about here? Are the options classes in a separate building, or will they be?

  • 1069. LVDad  |  May 22, 2015 at 12:49 pm

    @westloopdad We got a robocall from CPS to both parents’ cell phones about an hour ago or so. Email followed, again from OAE. The school itself did not yet have our name. In prior years I’ve heard about “tiebreakers” for same scores/tiers that are assessed during testing but aren’t sent to parents, but I don’t know what they would be. Hopefully you are next up!

  • 1070. LVDad  |  May 22, 2015 at 12:50 pm

    @westloopdad we were given until Thursday to reply, so the assumption can be made that next Friday will be the next round.

  • 1071. westloopdad  |  May 22, 2015 at 1:11 pm

    @LVDad – Congrats on the offer and thanks for the response! I am hoping there is a ‘next up’. I have also left a message to OAE to get a view on how tiebreakers are resolved.

  • 1072. Murphy Mom  |  May 22, 2015 at 4:15 pm

    @1065 and @1066, Bell was our first choice and we got a 1st round offer for tier 4 with a 132. Not sure if that info is helpful at this stage in the offers. Don’t they stop looking at tier after the 2nd round or something? I can’t recall exactly how the rules go but I’m sure someone on this thread knows the scoop. You can usually get the info of what number my kids are on the list for specific schools if I call OAE and wait for them to call back with the info.

    @AvondaleMom Yes and welcome! Murphy just keeps exceeding my expectations. 🙂

  • 1073. Murphy Mom  |  May 22, 2015 at 4:16 pm

    (*I* can usually… ugh.)

  • 1074. lisa  |  May 22, 2015 at 8:38 pm

    I posted before, daughter 144 score just got spot at Pritzker today via automated email and call. We will be turning it down for our neighborhood school so she can be with her sister.

  • 1075. D Van  |  May 23, 2015 at 6:53 am

    Gifted? People seem to be using a broad definition (e.g. knows A,B,Cs). Oh well, if it makes you feel good. LOL.

  • 1076. Happy mom  |  May 24, 2015 at 8:06 am

    Can any parent share about the positive and negative things of bell school ? It will really help us to make the decision in future. Is it as good as Edison RGC ?? I never took a tour of bell and Edison RGc’s. If I get an offer from Bell school in summer end , should accept the offer or wait for Edison???

  • 1077. LSmom  |  May 25, 2015 at 7:04 am

    @1076, are you trying to get a first grade spot? That’s the entry year for Bell, so there’s some movement usually through summer. Edison would only have a late summer spot if a currently enrolled student decided to leave, and that’s a long shot.

  • 1078. cpsobsessed  |  May 25, 2015 at 9:26 am

    Making my first test post with iPhone

  • 1079. Happy mom  |  May 25, 2015 at 11:54 pm

    @1077 we have applied for 3 gr in bell and edison only.

  • 1080. ??  |  May 26, 2015 at 9:00 pm

    I am wondering if the tiebreakers have to do with the way the Gifted/Classical schools are ordered in the application?

  • 1081. Lisa  |  May 27, 2015 at 7:59 am

    Does anyone know if Coonleys seats are filled for K? We turned down our Pritzker spot, so good luck! Coonley first choice, Pritzker second.

  • 1082. lisa  |  May 27, 2015 at 1:10 pm

    I spoke with CPS and they were very helpful. I wasnt sure what was going on w Coonley but they said there were 20 kids with higher scores than mine and still havent been offered seats, so its highly unlikely. I planned on sending her to Lincoln to be with her sister, but if a spot did open at Coonley I would seriously consider it. Its very hard to have 2 kids at 2 different schools. Theres high parent involvement at Lincoln, but they have zero enrichment programs for the primary grades, nothing before or after school. Its very disappointing. I hope that changes. Actually surprising for such a highly rated school.

  • 1083. AE  |  May 28, 2015 at 9:07 am

    @ 1082 lisa — Do you recall the name of the person you spoke with?

  • 1084. Robin in WRP  |  May 29, 2015 at 5:14 am

    lisa – you might want to look at enrichment classes through the Center for Talent Development at Northwestern

  • 1085. West loop  |  May 29, 2015 at 6:00 am

    Does anyone know what minimum RGC and Classical percentiles are gaining admission for Tier 1 and 2? Just curious.

  • 1086. LSmom  |  May 29, 2015 at 8:30 am

    @West loop, they stop considering tiers after the second round so any numbers you see should be the current scores getting in.

  • 1087. CPS parent  |  May 29, 2015 at 9:34 am

    I am more curious about the 1st round. I have heard from colleagues at SEES schools that Tier 1 and Tier 2 percentiles can fall well below 90% and RGC scores are in the 120/130 range.

  • 1088. LSmom  |  May 29, 2015 at 9:53 am

    @CPS parent, I think that’s true about Tier 1/2, although there aren’t many numbers posted this year. Someone reported a Tier 1 Decatur offer with 96/80, and last year there were Tier 1 RGC offers in the 130s.

  • 1089. OptionsMom  |  May 29, 2015 at 9:54 am

    Do you have any idea about RGC scores for entering in the upper grades such as 2 nd gr? Bell 2 nd grade?

  • 1090. LSmom  |  May 29, 2015 at 10:05 am

    @1089, I think last year there were some 2nd grade RGC offers in the 140s.

  • 1091. ECK  |  May 29, 2015 at 10:22 am

    I have been thinking about West Loop’s comment and my speculation is that every year – as the process of getting into a sees kindergarten class gets more crazy and competitive – the scores between the tiers are starting to even out. I am sure there are children in Tier 1 and 2 who have lower scores than Tier 3 and 4, but I would guess that is the exception for kindergarten (and probably varies between schools).

    Without giving away too much personal information and with the caveat that this is anecdotal, in my Tier 1 neighborhood the four children that received sees kindergarten offers this year had scores in 97%+ and 145+ range. Furthermore, there are at least six other children in the same Tier 1 neighborhood with scores in 120-130s and low-mid 90% who have not received an offers.

  • 1092. parent  |  May 29, 2015 at 9:44 pm

    But who can forget the Logan Sq tier one mom with the PhD from a couple of years ago — one of her twins got in to Decatur with 90/90 in the first round. The other one got into SW.

  • 1093. westloopdad  |  May 30, 2015 at 10:49 am

    Did any new offers go out this Friday?

  • 1094. new stem parent  |  May 30, 2015 at 4:13 pm

    It always seems to come back around to whether the tiers are fair to tier 4 parents, but from my perspective, not tier 4, it is at least equally unfair of all the parents that test prep their 4 year Olds into 99+ scores that are significantly above where their child would have naturally tested. Many parents just entering this crazy game don’t even know the rules that tier 4 plays by. How fair is that.

  • 1095. K West  |  May 31, 2015 at 6:19 pm

    Question, was the MAP test used as an entrance exam for Classical and Gifted schools?

  • 1096. seriously  |  June 1, 2015 at 12:13 am

    K west… no. Unless your child is going into 5th or above, then the MAP scores factored into if you qualified to take the test.

  • 1097. welovescience  |  June 1, 2015 at 1:41 pm

    My dd is beginning K @Edison RGC this fall. Looks like I’ll be dropping her off at our neighborhood school, Bateman, in the morning where she’ll take a bus for a short ride to Edison. Can anyone provide any details on what the process is while waiting for the bus? Would I end up walking her to a room inside the neighborhood school or do the children wait outside on their own until the bus shows up?

  • 1098. StayPositive  |  June 1, 2015 at 2:18 pm

    I’m not sure of the specific process at Bateman, however at our local neighborhood school, there is a Bus Monitor. She is there for a certain amount of time in the morning and again in the afternoon. Some parents wait until the bus picks their children up, others drop off their children who walk in with the Bus Monitor-at our local school she stands inside where the auditorium is. She is also than available for a certain amount of time in the afternoon if you are running late, etc. And that way there is a place for the child to go that is protected from the elements and with access to a bathroom while they wait either in the morning or the afternoon. Our Bus Monitor also provided us her cell phone so we text back-and-forth if we are running late for the bus, or if the bus shows up early-we are able to ask her to ask the bus to wait for a couple of minutes.

  • 1099. StayPositive  |  June 1, 2015 at 2:22 pm

    Also note that the first few weeks of the buses are going to be crazy. They are still figuring out their schedule, additional kids are getting added to the route, and so it is not uncommon for the bus to show up very early, or very late, so be prepared to likely drive your child to school at least a few times those first few weeks. They also might change your official pick up and drop off time after a couple of weeks once everything has settled down. Once our route was pretty settled, we didn’t really run into any other problems unless there was a substitute driver. Those days, the bus was always late.

  • 1100. CPS mom too  |  June 2, 2015 at 5:30 pm

    Just got the call for NTA, tier 3, 132. We have until Monday to decide.

  • 1101. parent  |  June 2, 2015 at 5:38 pm

    Just got the call from Skinner North and need to tell them by 5:00 p.m. on Monday. For 1st grade. Scores 99 Math 98 Reading. Very torn as currently at Hawthorne and happy there. Any insights?

  • 1102. South Loop Mom  |  June 2, 2015 at 7:10 pm

    Congratulations! Next year will be year 3 for us at NTA. We also have a child in the PreK. Overall, very happy. Post if you have specific Qs, and check out the CPSObsessed South Side thread too.

  • 1103. parent  |  June 2, 2015 at 7:27 pm

    I am sure this has been answered before, but just to make sure, you can currently be at a magnet school and also enroll at a selective enrollment and not lose your magnet spot, correct? I don’t want to do that for long as I know others are waiting, but do need a bit more time as we are figuring out our living situation based on locations so need just a few days beyond the deadline. Is this right?

  • 1104. Archmom  |  June 2, 2015 at 8:39 pm

    @1097 our child has been taking the bus to Edison all year. It’s great! So much less hectic. We arrive a few minutes before the departure time via car and wait for the bus. At the start of kindergarten I was worried about taking a bus but my child loves it and it’s better for our family.

  • 1105. 60660  |  June 3, 2015 at 8:30 am

    @1103 parent – you can accept an offer at a SE school and stay on the waitlist for a magnet school but your child can only be enrolled at one CPS school at a time.
    Informing your current school you are leaving is part of registering your kid at her new school.

  • 1106. 60660  |  June 3, 2015 at 8:34 am

    offered 3rd grade at Edison & accepting – 138

  • 1107. ExcitedDad  |  June 3, 2015 at 8:51 am

    Congratulations! We have a new kid in Edison too @ 3rd grade. We will see you on June 23rd

  • 1108. Bell 3rd Grade  |  June 3, 2015 at 8:51 am

    I know there are a couple spots for incoming Bell 3rd grade due to some kids moving out of state. If you accepted a spot and would like to set up a play date to meet kids over the summer, let me know. My daughter is in that class.

  • 1109. Hmmm  |  June 3, 2015 at 9:12 am

    @1101 I know it’s a difficult decision. Last week we declined a seat at Decatur to keep our son at Hawthorne. Good luck, and let me know if I can help!

  • 1110. Wreck  |  June 3, 2015 at 9:17 am

    At HMMM why did you not leave fir decatur? And what grade did you turn down? I have heard hawthorne is amazing….

  • 1111. Hmmm  |  June 3, 2015 at 9:30 am

    @1110 I wrote more about our family’s decision to decline Decatur and keep our son at Hawthorne on the Neighborhood and Magnet page’s comments.

    In a nutshell, though, our 2nd grader at Hawthorne is happy going there, which is the most important thing to us. The administration, teachers, staff, and community are *great*. I spoke with several parents of 7th and 8th graders, and they’re happy at Hawthorne, too. They find the curriculum rigorous and engaging. A few of the 7th and 8th graders at Hawthorne came there after graduating 6th grade at Decatur.

  • 1112. Patricia  |  June 3, 2015 at 10:00 am

    @1097 re: bus service
    I would not count on a bus monitor. We have never had one and wait in the car with the kids until their bus arrives. Also with the looming pension crisis / budget hole, even if there is a monitor, it may no longer be available next year. Just a guess. It ends up settling in after the first week or so and we have been lucky to have great bus drivers so it is like clockwork.

    We found a great app for those who have kids with phones (my kids are older). It is free and called Life 360. You see where your kid is at all times and can even set up a circle perimeter that will send you an alert when your kid (thier phone) leaves the defined space. I use it daily to see when our two different busses are close………..and see where my teenager may be–LOL!

  • 1113. 60660  |  June 3, 2015 at 11:55 am

    @ tireddad – thanks! we are looking forward to meeting the incoming 3rd grade families. thank you also for sharing your score and offer info here.

  • 1114. Snparent  |  June 3, 2015 at 12:17 pm

    @parent. Wish I would have seen your post earlier. While I’ve heard great things about Hawthorne, SN is a great school. The teachers are wonderful & administration is great/responsive. There were a couple of families who moved their kids in 1st and they have been very happy with their decision.

  • 1115. chgo mom  |  June 3, 2015 at 12:24 pm

    @parent — any sibs? I would stay put if so because SN doesn’t have sibling preference. That said, our eldest is at SN and we are very happy. The administration is very responsive and families are very committed. If you’re already in at Hawthorne, I’m not sure there’s an appreciable difference. Talk to the principal (Ethan) and see if he will let you take a short visit. He’s very accessible.

  • 1116. Lakeview Mama  |  June 4, 2015 at 11:56 am

    My child is in 1 of the 2 Second Grade Classes at Decatur. We received a note home that 5 children in his classes are leaving – which should make way for 5 new THIRD grade spots at Decatur next year. Most leaving are moving out of state. Sad news for the class but good news if you are a parent waiting for a spot.

  • 1117. note?  |  June 5, 2015 at 11:58 am

    @lakeview mama

    Was that “note” you received official school communication? Tuesday take home? Who sent you the note? That’s fascinating, because we did not receive this “note”.

  • 1118. CPS mom too  |  June 5, 2015 at 2:29 pm

    I’ve got a question similar to the Hawthorne/Decatur thread but instead I’m interested in moving a kid who’s thriving in a RGC to a well-regarded magnet school. We’re hoping to get both kids in the same school and one route would be to move our oldest from a RGC to LaSalle I. We’re concerned about our kiddo repeating a lot of material at least the first year back… but also think highly of LaSalle, which is significantly closer to home. Anyone made a similar move?

  • 1119. Tier4Mom  |  June 5, 2015 at 11:10 pm

    Are there any real/significant differences between Bell and Coonley RGC???

  • 1120. Robin in WRP  |  June 6, 2015 at 5:37 am

    CPS mom too – I can tell you from experience, that a bored kid is a disruptive kid. The “troublemaker” label can be difficult to get rid of.

    That said, talk to someone at LaSalle (the school counselor?), and see what options you may have, such as moving up a grade or two for math and reading.

  • 1121. CPSconfused  |  June 6, 2015 at 7:54 am

    We just got a call from Drummond PreK 3 and accepted it. My other child got a call from Ebinger for K. Since these schools are so far away from eachother, we will probably have to turn down the Ebinger spot. But, the wait lists are moving.

  • 1122. CPSconfused  |  June 6, 2015 at 8:06 am

    Oops. Wrong thread. Sorry.

  • 1123. soconfused@cps  |  June 8, 2015 at 10:36 am

    My DD just got accepted for Skinner west. 99% reading and 98% Math. Really torn between neighborhood school (Nettelhorst) and Skinner west. Love the community experience and the feeling of having a family but dont want her to miss out on accelerated education at Skinner. Thoughts? Also, any idea on private bus services from lakeview to Skinner west since we wont be in the CPS bus boundary for Skinner west?

  • 1124. Pug  |  June 8, 2015 at 10:37 am

    @1101 parent, are you accepting your offer?

  • 1125. Pug  |  June 8, 2015 at 11:33 am

    @1123, what grade and did you get the call today?

  • 1126. westloopdad  |  June 8, 2015 at 11:54 am

    @1123 What grade and tier?

  • 1127. soconfused@cps  |  June 8, 2015 at 12:56 pm

    first grade, tire 1

  • 1128. soconfused@cps  |  June 8, 2015 at 1:07 pm

    No, I got the call on Thursday

  • 1129. ppark  |  June 8, 2015 at 1:50 pm

    @1123 Do you live in the Nettelhorst school boundaries?

  • 1130. soconfused@cps  |  June 8, 2015 at 2:20 pm


  • 1131. Chris  |  June 8, 2015 at 2:35 pm


    There isn’t any Tier 1 in Nettlerhorst boundaries. Everything in the a-a is Tier 4. So I’m confused, too.

  • 1132. soconfused@cps  |  June 8, 2015 at 2:47 pm

    Chris, I meant Tier 4. I have no idea why i write 1. Sorry about that.

  • 1133. Chris  |  June 8, 2015 at 4:08 pm


    no worries; just confused me, and I assume some others.

    and wanted to head off people looking for the census tract in Nettlerhorst (Nice area!!) that gave that leg up for admissions.

  • 1134. new stem parentnee  |  June 10, 2015 at 10:02 am

    So we got a letter today saying there are still seats available at select rgc’s. Does that mean those schools have worked through their lists.

  • 1135. llmm  |  June 10, 2015 at 10:29 am

    @1134 Maybe 🙂 Does it specify which schools and grades? Or ask you to apply or reorder your application? I know they did this a couple years ago when the options program was new at NTA. They were pretty close to working thru their list, so they sent a letter to qualified applicants (Score of 115 or higher) who had not listed the school and asked if they would like to be considered. It was not an offer or a guarantee of an offer. Just an invitation to be added to the list.

  • 1136. new stem parentnee  |  June 10, 2015 at 10:40 am

    Yes. It lists schools and grades available at each. Includes a supplemental application due by 6/19

  • 1137. llmm  |  June 10, 2015 at 10:49 am

    Then I would guess they are getting close on some lists. Can you post which schools and grades? Inquiring minds want to know 🙂

  • 1138. CPS parent  |  June 10, 2015 at 11:16 am

    @1134 Did you receive the letter via mail or email? And to schools you already listed?

  • 1139. northside mom  |  June 10, 2015 at 12:48 pm

    @1134 Are you one of those parents that were told their application was incomplete because they did not select schools?

  • 1140. chgo mom  |  June 10, 2015 at 12:55 pm

    We got the letter too. We are in the group of families with an incomplete app. (*sigh*) and there was only one school on the list for a kinder opening: Carnegie. Anyone know anything about it? We live on the far nw side so it would be a trek, for sure, but one some families make.

  • 1141. northside mom  |  June 10, 2015 at 1:26 pm

    @1140, can you tell me if there are any opening for Beaubien RGC and what grades? thanks!

  • 1142. new stem parentnee  |  June 10, 2015 at 6:02 pm

    Beasley 1-4
    Beaubien 1
    Carnegie k-4
    Keller 1
    Lennart 1
    Nta 1-3
    Mcdade 4
    Poe 3-4
    “please note that we do not anticipate that seats will be available in any schools except those listed above, and only in the grades indicated.”
    I did not list these schools on my original application. I originally wanted pritzker.

  • 1143. new stem parentnee  |  June 10, 2015 at 6:06 pm

    Also came with a supplemental selective enrollment elementary schools application. Due date 6/19

  • 1144. One and Only  |  June 10, 2015 at 8:47 pm

    We got that letter to, but we were not one of the families who had an incomplete app. I wonder if they sent it out to everyone who applied to SEES?

  • 1145. Kelly  |  June 10, 2015 at 9:48 pm

    Another who got that letter. AFAIK, our app was complete. The schools listed were not on our app, and much further than we would be able to transport.

  • 1146. ConfusedMom  |  June 11, 2015 at 7:15 am

    We received this as well and I was confused since we did apply to Beaubien but for second grade and I never was told our application was incomplete. We will not be applying to any of those schools since it’s so far away from us.

  • 1147. CPS mom too  |  June 11, 2015 at 8:30 am

    We got it too and had already received an offer (so had a complete application).

    Just a plug for NTA (which has spots open in grades 1-3). We’ve been happy there (going into 2nd grade) and it’s doable commute from the northside if you work downtown. Just 10 minutes on the Red or Green Line from downtown and right off Lake Shore Drive. We’re on the northside and turned down a Decatur spot because NTA is a better location/easier commute.

  • 1148. KRV  |  June 11, 2015 at 9:41 am

    We also got that letter, but since we’re applying for K, there was only one option which is too far from us.

  • 1149. CPS parent  |  June 11, 2015 at 10:12 am

    We received the letter as well. I have been kicking myself for applying to NTA as my child would have been offered a spot. However, the letter confirmed that we would not have qualified for bus services (3 blocks north of the boundary) and to be honest, there is no way that I could have driven him there each morning. Oh well!

  • 1150. new stem parentnee  |  June 11, 2015 at 1:09 pm

    I also kicked myself for not applying to nta when i saw the scores start to drop and i knew we would have gotten a spot.convinced myself the bus ride would have been too long now i know we are outside the area and would have to drive. One of the suggestions i made on the survey was to let parents know what schools their kids scores are likely to qualify. Would help with the application process.

  • 1151. Kenwood Mom  |  June 11, 2015 at 1:17 pm

    @Southside Tier 3 Mom I have registered my daughter at McDade for kindergarten as well. please contact me at zakiyya_911@yahoo.com.

  • 1152. llmm  |  June 11, 2015 at 1:57 pm

    What are the bus boundaries for NTA?

  • 1153. CPS parent  |  June 11, 2015 at 3:22 pm

    500 north and 3900 south, i think?

  • 1154. MommyKim  |  June 11, 2015 at 7:01 pm

    Oae just got back to me on a couple waitlist numbers for teir 4 144 K spot
    Edison were on 19
    Coonley is 23
    I have not recieced a call or email for Pritzker wait list but we are declining. Hope that helps!

  • 1155. SAP mom  |  June 12, 2015 at 4:40 pm

    Hi, We received an offer from NTA today for first grade. We live in the Skinner west neighborhood boundary. Now that we got the offer I can’t make a decision between a gifted program at NTA or a neighborhood program at Skinner west. Any suggestion/comments is highly appreciated.

  • 1156. cps veteran  |  June 13, 2015 at 9:21 am

    SAP mom – i’m sure you’ve already thought this… but folks in your position often treat the neighborhood school as the fall-back… taking the offer and turning to the neighborhood school if needed later. Best of luck w/your decision.

  • 1157. LVMOM  |  June 14, 2015 at 10:11 am

    Our child goes to Decatur. We were offered a 4th grade spot at Coonley which is much closer to where we live. Does anyone have children that attended both of these schools? If so, can you tell me your thoughts about making that switch. Thanks!

  • 1158. Happy mom  |  June 14, 2015 at 4:07 pm

    What’s your RGC score for Conley for 4 th grade ? You could wait for Edison and Bell offer, if you have applied? Decatur is a good school till 6 th grade but you will stay secure staying in Coonley which goes till 8th grade . Stay tension free next yr. you will also like the advance curriculum.

  • 1159. LVMOM  |  June 14, 2015 at 4:20 pm

    The RGC score is 136. They told us Friday that we have the spot and want an answer by tomorrow. We did apply to Bell too. We are going to see if they’ll let us see it tomorrow. We spoke to one family that loves it. The 8th grade option is key and the proximity to where we live vs Decatur. However, changing schools is never an easy call.

  • 1160. JK  |  June 14, 2015 at 4:28 pm

    @1159 Friends of mine made the switch from Decatur to Coonley Options when their daughter was in 3rd grade (because the younger sib was also at Coonley). While the change was tough at first (as it probably would be for most kids), they are very happy at Coonley. Some areas that they find appealing include the extensive extra-curricular activities, the well-organized parent groups, and the communication from the school. Academically, they have had no complaints, and it is also much closer for them.

  • 1161. Happy mom  |  June 14, 2015 at 4:55 pm

    I think edison , bell and Conley are almost the same and reputed school. 136 is a good number to get into coonley .Next yr for 5th gr selection is going to be more tough.if you are happy and comfortable In Decator then don’t leave the school and if u think next yr your child will score high take chance . Even highly possible you could get into bell and edison this yr late summer . Good luck .

  • 1162. west rogers park mom  |  June 15, 2015 at 8:38 am

    @LVMOM. I live close to Decatur but would pick Coonley simply for the option to stay in 7th and 8th grade.

  • 1163. T3 parent - K  |  June 15, 2015 at 9:00 am

    Tier 3 RGC – Letter about South Side schools:

    I got a CPS letter with check boxes in the mail asking if we want to apply to Carnegie, for K. We have a RGC score of only 115 – are already wait listed at Pritzker & Coonley but we hadn’t applied to Carnegie.

    The letter also said something about 1st-4th grade spots at NTA, Lenart, Poe, and a couple other schools on the South Side.

    The gist as I can understand this – there is some sort of 2nd round selection coming up, and South Side schools MAY be easier to get into [depending on Tier] if your kid got a kind of high, but not super high score, and you are willing to take the commute. Good luck everyone! we are keeping our magnet spot.

  • 1164. T3 parent - K  |  June 15, 2015 at 9:03 am

    @ 1155 I hear Skinner West is a good neighborhood program but becoming really crowded. Don’t know much about NTA except that the south loop RGC program got moved to there, the neighborhood program is not good, but gifted is good.

  • 1165. CPS mom too  |  June 15, 2015 at 10:19 am


    There’s a lot more upthread about NTA, but please let me know if you have any specific questions.

    We’ve been very happy there and impressed with the quality of instruction in both the RGC (going into 2nd grade) and what we’ve seen of the neighborhood program. Art, swim, Spanish, technology and music as specials for all kiddos. The art program in particular has really been impressive.

  • 1166. praiacv  |  June 15, 2015 at 11:12 am

    just declined a 2nd grade decatur offer

  • 1167. ppark  |  June 15, 2015 at 12:41 pm

    You can’t go wrong with Coonley. To me it’s one of the best schools in the city! There is STRONG parent involvement, Mr. Z is always available to answer any of your questions, very open to suggestions. Best drama teacher, the list can go on and on.

  • 1168. LVMOM  |  June 15, 2015 at 1:38 pm

    Thanks for responding with your comments re Coonley. All of the comments have been very helpful!. Is there anyone in the current 3rd grade options class at Coonley that would be will to talk to me on the phone? Please let me know. Thank you.

  • 1169. Beaubien 1st grade  |  June 15, 2015 at 9:21 pm

    Has Beaubien not filled their seats for 1st grade? We got a litter listing SEES schools that have openings and Beaubien was the only school on the north side, that still has openins.

  • 1170. TPick  |  June 15, 2015 at 9:24 pm

    Got a call from Lasalle my daughter was 6 on the list…we turned down.

  • 1171. TPick  |  June 16, 2015 at 5:13 pm

    Just declined Sheridan today.

  • 1172. LVMOM  |  June 16, 2015 at 6:34 pm

    Thank you! We took the spot at Coonley. We are very excited. That opens a spot in 4th grade at Decatur. Good luck to anyone that might be waiting for that spot.

  • 1173. NewCoonleyOptionsParent  |  June 19, 2015 at 11:17 am

    RGC 128. Tier 4. Entering 1st grade. Applied for Coonley, Bell. (FYI… Last year, RGC 125. Tier 4. Applied for Coonley, Bell and maybe another school – can’t remember. No offers.)

    Offered 1st grade at Bell on May 8 (I think it was third round). We declined on May 15.

    Offered 1st grade at Coonley on Jun 11. Deadline to accept was Jun 15. We accepted on Jun 12!

  • 1174. Gina  |  June 19, 2015 at 8:54 pm

    Welcome to Coonley!!! My child goes there and will be entering first grade… We have a great group of kids! I can let you know of any playdates if you want over the summer. Gina

  • 1175. weloop  |  June 23, 2015 at 6:00 pm

    SAP mom, my child currently attends Skinner West (neighborhood) but got accepted into NTA (we declined). I have several friends who went to NTA but came back to Skinner West and some who have left Skinner West to go to NTA. We love Skinner West but I know others loved NTA. I think at this point it would be a matter of personal preference to you.

  • 1176. Worrying mom  |  June 24, 2015 at 9:13 am

    Can any one tell me about bell school like its education, teachers and other after school activities ? I am going to be a new parent and worrying a lot.

  • 1177. TigerDad  |  June 24, 2015 at 9:14 am

    Between NTA and Beasely which one would you chose? Which is closer to Downtown?

  • 1178. SAP mom  |  June 24, 2015 at 9:32 am

    weloop, Thanks for your respond. Would you be able to put me in touch with any of the parents who left Skinner to NTA and came back to Skinner or stayed? It will help me to understand the pros and cons. Appreciate it. My email is soodeh_m@yahoo.com

  • 1179. CPS mom too  |  June 24, 2015 at 10:14 am

    @1177 I don’t know anything about Beasley but we’ve been very happy with NTA. NTA is at 22nd and State, so closer to the loop – a short el ride in on the Red or Green line.

  • 1180. TPick  |  June 24, 2015 at 9:26 pm

    NTA @1177 TOTALLY

  • 1181. Tigerdad  |  June 24, 2015 at 10:17 pm

    Thx a lot all Any one know if there are vacancies in Edison Conley pritzker for grade 2 . 139 tier 4. Is that a good score . Will it get him into any of the above.

  • 1182. new stem parentnee  |  June 24, 2015 at 10:32 pm

    When the supplemental application came out, the only rgc listing second grade spots were Beasley,carnegie and nta.

  • 1183. tigerdad  |  June 25, 2015 at 8:44 am

    Are you saying that there will not be any other vacancy post June 19th when the cps closed in other schools? Can you confirm? thanks

  • 1184. LSmom  |  June 25, 2015 at 9:01 am

    @tigerdad, there would only be spots in those schools if someone who is currently enrolled decided to leave. Those schools weren’t listed on the supplemental application because there’s enough students in line to fill spots if they did happen to open up. 139 is a great score though.

  • 1185. EdisonDad  |  June 25, 2015 at 10:37 am

    @TigerDad – my kid got into Edison in the second round for 3rd grade with a score of 139 and we are Tier 4 as well.
    We did not expect our kid to get in since we were under the impression that scores greater than 145 was required . If some parents decide to move to the suburbs or whatever, seats could open up. Good luck!

  • 1186. Ivy  |  June 25, 2015 at 3:42 pm

    @NewCoonleyOptionsParent, may I know why you decline Bell but accept Coonley instead? In my impression, they are similar and close to each other, is Coonley’s RGC better than Bell’s?

  • 1187. TigerDad  |  June 30, 2015 at 2:33 pm

    Thanks one and all. Does any parent at Coonley/Edison/Bell know of any potential vacancies in second grade? Please provide direction. Thanks all

  • 1188. TigerDad  |  June 30, 2015 at 2:34 pm

    Also are any one of you aware of a online app that can provide sample questions for the test……..any idea anyone?

  • 1189. Chicago School GPS  |  July 1, 2015 at 9:40 am

    One online resource for sample questions is http://www.testingmom.com. They also have other kid-friendly enrichment apps but if you want to get a quick idea of sample questions, they send you 100 free questions when you sign up for their email list.

    CPS doesn’t reveal WHAT tests they use but they certainly don’t make up all their own questions and do use a mix from tests like OLSAT, COGAT, NNAT, etc. TestingMom has samples from all those types of tests.

    You can also do a google search for sample questions from those tests. A little familiarity in what to expect and what those questions look like is always helpful. CPSOAE’s site strongly cautions against test prep but most folks like to gain at least “familiarity” for their child. Good luck!

  • 1190. NewCoonleyOptionsParent  |  July 4, 2015 at 8:44 am

    @Ivy We declined Bell due to logistics and because we felt confident with our son’s neighborhood school.

    Happy fourth all!

  • 1191. momof3fish  |  July 6, 2015 at 9:48 pm

    @Tigerdad. If there was a vacancy i would think the spot would have probably been filled at first round unless a bunch of people declined. idk how that all works but i know when my kid got in at second grade via first round, there were a few openings at the time.

  • 1192. Caution-Don't call them'smart'  |  July 12, 2015 at 10:51 pm


  • 1193. Saydil Preparatory  |  July 13, 2015 at 8:14 am

    All, many of you have contacted me about classes. I have not replied for some time. I apologize. I was away on an emergency and was having email trouble. I am now back and have replied to all of you. Sorry once again.

  • 1194. Tigerdad  |  July 14, 2015 at 2:27 pm

    What if there are vacancies due to students not coming back this year? The vacancy you are talking about are from last year I would think

  • 1195. momof3fish  |  July 14, 2015 at 6:43 pm

    @Tigerdad If there were vacancies due to students not coming back, I think they are filled, top scores first and then move down the line. I thought after the initial entry the seats are filled from scores only and tiers are not used. i could be wrong. my kid entered before all the craziness. There were a bunch of new kids at Edison last year but I think they were in the upper grades. IDK where the vacancies are but i always see new kids every year. 7th grade is a grade that had a bunch of openings.

  • 1196. CPS Changes School Start Times  |  July 17, 2015 at 9:02 am

    CPS Changes School Start Times at 60 High Schools, 17 Grade Schools

    NEAR WEST SIDE — In an effort to cut costs, bell schedules at more than 75 CPS schools are expected to change for the 2015-2016 school year — with some schools shifting schedules by as much as 45 minutes to an hour.

    In total, 60 high schools and 17 elementary schools will be affected by the new bell schedules, Chicago Public Schools officials confirmed late Thursday. At the impacted high schools, start time will shift to 9 a.m. and affected elementary schools, for the most part, will shift to an earlier start time of 7:30 or 7:45 a.m.

    CPS would not release the full list of schools to the media Thursday, saying that principals instead would be spreading the news to parents at the affected schools. The announcement comes less than two months before the new school year is set to begin, and CPS officials did not detail how the new start times were being communicated to parents. CPS did not say why the start times were not determined before school let out for the summer.

    “All affected principals have been informed and we are working with them to communicate the information to parents,” CPS spokeswoman Emily Bittner said. “We’ll release the schools after that process.”

    So far, some CPS principals have announced the new start times in newsletters, on Facebook and Twitter.

    On July 1, CPS officials announced bell times would shift at some schools as part of the $200 million in cuts the school district rolled out. Schools with changing bell times were given final notice of their schedules on Monday, Bittner said.

    Shifting the start time at the 77 schools will save CPS $9.2 million by running buses in two shifts, allowing for the district to cut 160 buses and 75 aides, Bittner said.

    “With a $1.1 billion budget deficit, the bell time shift provides significant savings instead of making cuts to the classroom,” she said.

    What schools are affected?

    Andrew Jackson Language Academy, a lottery admissions school on the Near West Side, is one of the schools that will be impacted by the change. In a newsletter to parents this week, new Principal Marilou Rebolledo wrote that CPS would be adjusting the school bell schedule for the 2015-2016 school year in order to “streamline” bus operations.

    “Due to financial challenges and conserving funds for classroom and students, CPS had to make adjustments to school bell times,” Rebolledo wrote.

    Andrew Jackson students will now attend from 7:45 a.m.-2:45 p.m. School previously started at 8:30 a.m.

    Amundsen High School in Lincoln Square will also move its school hours to 9 a.m.-4:15 p.m., Principal Anna Pavichevich confirmed on Facebook Tuesday afternoon. Class previously started 8 a.m.

    Principal D’Andre Weaver, who leads Brooks College Prep Academy in Pullman, confirmed the high school’s later start time in a tweet Tuesday: “New start and end times: 9:00 a.m. – 4:30 p.m. No joke.”

    Principal D’Andre Weaver, who leads Brooks College Prep Academy in Pullman, confirmed the high school’s later start time in a tweet Tuesday. [Twitter]

    Brooks College Prep’s Twitter account wrote: “If you have complaints meet with the CPS board of education. Mr. Weaver doesn’t control the world students.”

    Taft High School in Norwood Park is starting at 9 a.m., too.

    While staff at Whitney Young Magnet High School said they were notified the bell schedule would likely be changing to 9 a.m., parent Tina Iturralde said Whitney Young parents had not yet been notified of the change. The school started at 8 a.m. previously.

    Parent reaction “mixed”

    After the new bell schedule was announced this week, the Andrew Jackson Local School Council received a “mixed reaction” from Jackson parents, according to Chairwoman Angela Bryant. The bell change came as a surprise, she said.

    “[Because] the change is due to budgetary constraints, [that] softens the reaction,” Bryant said.

    But last year, CPS gave parents a completely different message: It said the district would save money if the school would move back Jackson’s start time to 8:45 a.m. or even 9 a.m. But Jackson parents opposed the change when it was proposed by CPS’ Department of Transportation. Andrew Jackson’s LSC decided to continue with the regular bell time of 8:30 a.m.

    In the last six years, bell time has previously changed one time at Andrew Jackson, shifting start time from 8:45 a.m. to 8:30 a.m., Bryant said.

    Andrew Jackson Language Academy is located at 1340 W. Harrison St. on the Near West Side. [DNAinfo]

    As parents adjust to the new bell times, Bryant said the many parents will need the support of quality and affordable before- and after-school programming to make their families’ schedules work. Andrew Jackson is working with a new after-school program vendor this year that may be able to meet parents’ needs, she said.

    Andrew Jackson parents plan to discuss the new bell schedule at a special LSC meeting July 23.


  • 1197. Pinki  |  July 18, 2015 at 8:36 am

    Anyone whose child attends Beaubien RGC, can you provide some feedback on it? We are thinking about sending our son there. Thanks!

  • 1198. @pinki  |  July 18, 2015 at 11:11 am

    What grade?

  • 1199. Tigerdad  |  July 19, 2015 at 12:06 am

    Are there any 2nd grade parents in nta? We have got in. Is there only a rgc or is there a regular school as well? Grateful for feedback.

  • 1200. Tigerdad  |  July 19, 2015 at 12:09 am

    @momof3fish. I hear they can be vacancies till end of summer…..for the kids who r not coming back would have intimated the school only recently

  • 1201. CPS mom too  |  July 19, 2015 at 7:15 am

    @1199 My daughter is going into 2nd grade at NTA (RGC). For the earlier grades (K-3rd) there are 2 neighborhood classrooms and 1 RGC classroom. For 4th and up there’s no RGC.

    We’ve been there since kindergarten and have been happy. There’s a lot of info on NTA earlier in this thread, but happy to answer any questions.

  • 1202. South Loop Mom  |  July 19, 2015 at 8:59 am

    @1199/Tigerdad – Check out the South Side School thread too. Plenty of discussion on NTA. We have a rising 3rd grader at NTA in the RGC and are very happy. Yes, NTA has a neighborhood program too called “Achievers”. The teachers for the RGC and Achievers classes collaborate and plan together. All kids get the same extras and I’m impressed with the differentiation in the Achievers classes, from what I’ve seen. We plan to send younger DC to NTA whether they test into RGC or not. The scores are still low but I expect it will change quickly (Also, we don’t focus too much on scores and just focus on our kids and whether they are doing well/happy). NTA will likely follow Coonley and South Loop Elementary because the neighborhood kids and sibs of RGC students will start attending too, which means even more community investment. Neighborhood families of course get first dibs on the Achievers program but sibs of other NTA students then have priority for Open Enrollment in the Achievers classes.

    Here’s the school’s FB page for more info: https://www.facebook.com/NTACPS

  • 1203. @1197. Pinki  |  July 19, 2015 at 10:12 am

    @1197. Pinki
    I’ve been hoping for a late summer call from Beaubien –2nd grade.
    If you do a search in this thread there are 66 references to the school, many are reviews– all positive. What grade are you entering, score, and how long did they give you to respond? Thank you!

  • 1204. Tigerdad  |  July 19, 2015 at 11:08 pm

    Thanks for all on nta. What does it me a when u say there is no rgc from 3 rd grade? Shouldn’t there be one through tout?

  • 1205. Tigerdad  |  July 19, 2015 at 11:11 pm

    Also does anyone know of any upcoming vacancies in 2nd grade for Edison or coonly? Any kids announce exit on last day? Please let me know. Thx

  • 1206. South Loop Mom  |  July 20, 2015 at 6:08 am

    @1204 – I recommend you call NTA and ask for a tour, especially if you want proximity to downtown. It is right between the red and green lines. The RGC portion of NTA started in September 2013; it’s new. They launched with a K and 1st grade. So, every year they will keep building and adding a class. They will have a K-8 RGC eventually, but for this September there is a K-3. In 2016-17, there will be a K-4 and so on.

  • 1207. Waitingforwonderwoman  |  July 20, 2015 at 10:16 am

    Tier 4
    RGC 136
    Got the call Friday, declined today.

  • 1208. northside mom  |  July 23, 2015 at 3:22 pm

    @197 Pinki, my son started at Beaubien RCG lat year and he is going into second grade this year. let me know if you have any questions

  • 1209. CPS Cutting 270 Bus Stops  |  July 24, 2015 at 8:45 am

    CPS Cutting 270 Bus Stops, Forcing Some Kids to Walk 1.5 Miles to Get Ride


    NEAR WEST SIDE — In an effort to cut costs, Chicago Public Schools plans to cut the number of bus stops in half for the 2015-16 school year, a top school official told parents Thursday.

    In the past, CPS buses have picked up magnet and selective enrollment students at 450 stops — stops located at their neighborhood school — across the city. But this upcoming school year, CPS plans to consolidate the number of bus stops to 180, Martin Ellinger, CPS manager of student transportation routing, told about a dozen parents and Local School Council members Thursday at Andrew Jackson Language Academy.

    Ellinger said CPS is working to ensure the security of students and to make sure no children have to cross gang lines or other unsafe areas. “It’s been a long process,” he said.
    In a statement released July 1, CPS officials said they would consolidate bus stops that serve magnet students, saving $2.3 million. Instead of reporting to their local attendance school for pick-up, magnet students would instead be picked up at a consolidated stop “within two miles of students’ homes,” the statement read.

    Under the new plan, Ellinger said the average student’s stop will be 0.6 miles from their home, and the district wants to ensure no student has to travel further than 1.5 miles to and from their new stop.

    Two-thirds of magnet and selective-enrollment students served by buses will have a new stop next school year, Ellinger estimates.

    “While some students are going to have to go a little bit further, most won’t have to go that much further,” he said.

    CPS plans to continue to pick up special education students at their homes, Ellinger confirmed.

    In a related move, CPS officials confirmed last week that the bell schedules at 60 CPS high schools and 17 elementary schools are expected to change for the 2015-2016 school year — with some schools shifting schedules by as much as 45 minutes to an hour.

    At the affected high schools, start time will shift to 9 a.m. and affected elementary schools, for the most part, will shift to an earlier start time of 7:30 or 7:45 a.m.

    Shifting the start time at the 77 schools will save CPS $9.2 million by reducing the number of bus shifts to two, allowing the district to cut 160 buses and 75 aides, according to CPS spokeswoman Emily Bittner.

    Ellinger said the new bell schedule and consolidated bus stop plan will put CPS in line with the transportation budgets at urban school systems in other large cities.

    “We are one of the only cities that has bells for schools that receive transportation between 8 and 8:30 [a.m.],” he said. “Those are kind of the worst bell times possible because it makes it virtually impossible to reuse those buses for other schools.”

    Are the new bus stops safe?

    Bittner, the CPS spokeswoman, said, “As always, student safety is our top priority, and we are currently working with principals to finalize transportation stops and routes. We will provide further information when these are final, and will continue to work with schools to make sure students can arrive to and depart from school safely.”

    Ellinger said “we are working with safety and security to make sure we’re not making kids cross gang lines, things like that, with these new stops.”

    Although Jackson LSC members asked whether there would be more crossing guards since students will be walking so much further, Ellinger said CPS did not plan to add guards to facilitate the increased number of students walking due to the new plan.

    How much is CPS saving?

    Andrew Jackson, a lottery admissions school on the Near West Side, previously used 9-10 buses. Changing the start time at the school will save CPS “around $250,000,” Ellinger said.

    The school could likely shed one bus, he said, but in most cases, “even if we can’t [get rid of a bus] we’re going to be able to shorten the length of those runs because we have fewer stops to go to.”

    About 25 stops will be cut from the school’s collective bus routes, resulting in a 40 percent reduction in stops.

    Overall, CPS said it will save $2.3 million by consolidating bus stops.

    Plans to change school bell schedules have been “on the table” for years, Ellinger said.

    “To be honest, cutting magnet school bussing completely has been on the table for years,” he said. “That’s something we don’t want to do because we know the value of these programs.”

    Asked why the district waited until the middle of the summer to inform schools and parents of the changes that had been under consideration for so long, Ellinger blamed union negotiations and budget delays.

    “If you had gotten your budget earlier all these plans would have come together more quickly,” he said.

    Which schools are affected?

    The change will affect buses that pick up and drop off students at magnet schools, so it will impact selective enrollment and magnet schools. However, CPS did not release a full list of schools affected — just as CPS has refused to release the full list of 77 schools affected by new start times to the media, saying that principals instead would be spreading the news to parents at the affected schools.

    CPS did not comment on how parents across the district would be notified of the changes. At the Andrew Jackson meeting Thursday, Ellinger said that parents should expect to receive a postcard with route information in the next few weeks.

  • 1210. Tigerdad  |  July 24, 2015 at 2:32 pm

    any idea on second grade vacancies in Bell or Pritzker or Coonley?

  • 1211. scarlett329  |  July 25, 2015 at 9:33 am

    My daughter will be attending Pritzker RGC in the fall for kindergarten. We accepted the seat over our neighborhood school, Blaine. However, we have not heard anything about get-togethers, playdates, etc. Meanwhile, my friend, whose daughter will be attending a neighborhood school, has had invites for many events, including a parents-only dinner. So, my questions are: 1. Is this just how Pritzker is (and did I make a mistake choosing it over a more “friendly” neighborhood school?) and 2. Is there anyone on this thread who is sending a child to Prtizker for kindergarten who wants to have an impromptu playdate/meetup?

  • 1212. CPS Mom  |  July 25, 2015 at 10:34 am

    I’m curious as to whether CPS should just stop bussing all non-essential programs altogether. If one chooses to send their child to a school out of their neighborhood, maybe the responsibility of transportation should be theirs. I know this would be a HUGELY unpopular move, but wouldn’t this work towards building stronger neighborhood communities/schools? The savings with just moving the bus stops is enormous.

  • 1213. CHImom  |  July 25, 2015 at 12:13 pm

    @1212, practically speaking eliminating busing entirely would mean the end of most if not all magnet/selective enrollment programs. If that happens we’ll be looking at the suburbs or going private as the neighborhood school isn’t an option. Hope it doesn’t come to that.

  • 1214. xan  |  July 25, 2015 at 1:21 pm

    @1212, It would force lower income parents to send their kids to neighborhood schools while opening up more options to parents with means to transport their kids. Further limiting options for the disadvantage kids isn’t ideal but it’s difficult to find balance with money trouble CPS is having.

  • 1215. Miranda  |  July 25, 2015 at 1:57 pm

    It feels like the beginning of the end of magnet/selective enrollment to me. I really think CPS is now starting their master plan of phasing these schools out and making each neighborhood school a stronger, better institution. It would be a simpler, more economical system. The whole bussing thing is crazy. Bad for finances, bad for the environment, and bad for kids to spend so much time being bused.
    Those that threaten to leave for the burbs, you are then leaving for the more pragmatic system. There are no selective or magnet schools out there. You will get one option. And just why do you think the burbs only have a neighborhoods school? Because it is logical. Not the illogical system of CPS.

  • 1216. CPS Mom  |  July 25, 2015 at 2:28 pm

    If neighborhood schools are not an option, why should cps bear the burden of transportation costs? It seems wrong that more money goes to moving students who already are getting “better” schools.

  • 1217. xan  |  July 25, 2015 at 2:37 pm

    1215 1213, Would you be saying what you are saying if you were from low income and gang infested neighborhood school?

    If no selective enrollment, with no more competition among student to get into selective schools, I think education level of entire student population will suffer as whole. I don’t know about magnet schools, but selective enrollment should be kept at minimum to motivate students.

  • 1218. mom of 2 in Mayfair  |  July 25, 2015 at 2:58 pm

    I have 2 kids who have attended options schools, one still there (other in HS). I have always wondered why they do not charge for bussing for families not eligible for subsidized lunch. We have taken advantage of this resource since kindergarden, sometimes for relatively significant distances. While I am not looking to pay for it- I am making the choice not to attend my neighborhood school so it would feel fair to me. I do think it should be provided at no cost for low income families.

  • 1219. Robin in WRP  |  July 25, 2015 at 3:45 pm

    @1212 – This would further push middle class families out of the City

  • 1220. Tier4Mom  |  July 25, 2015 at 4:51 pm

    @1211 scarlett329 We also live on the north side of Chicago and my daughter will be attending Pritzker RGC in the fall as well. I would love to get together. Starting Monday she will be in a 2 week camp so it would have to be after that time. I would love to try to set something up. You can email me at mateescu06@yahoo.com

  • 1221. A Parent  |  July 25, 2015 at 6:27 pm

    “Would you be saying what you are saying if you were from low income and gang infested neighborhood school?”

    If I lived in a gang infested neighborhood, I’d be gone for other reasons.

    We live in a non-gang invested neighborhood yet our neighborhood school is not an option because of very low performance levels (having nothing to do with gangs). We have chosen to commute to a magnet school for several years now. Tried the bus but it was not a workable situation mainly due to timing. Our child was required to be at the bus stop almost 2 hours before school started, rain or shine, because of delays that “might occur” with snow. Driver spent the extra time waiting at various stops. It was a lot easier to just drive her in. We used the bus only when our work schedules were prohibitive (at our convenience). I guess other parents felt the same because there were times when there were only 4 or 5 kids on the bus.

    Major waste of money when we are scraping the bottom of the barrel.

  • 1222. Learning CPS  |  July 25, 2015 at 8:20 pm

    Like 1218, I wouldn’t be opposed to a bus fee for families using magnet and SEES bus service. But I can afford it, some can’t so it would have to be based on income somehow. We also own 2 cars, and when the bus was super late we did drive our daughter to school BUT it meant I or my husband would (depending on the situation) be very late to work. We usually chose that option vs her missing school, but neither is a good choice. Our neighborhood school would not have worked for my child, not because it is awful but because they don’t have the accelerated learning her SEES has which she, and I only speak for my child, needed.

    There is value in having these schools, and for families like ours who can’t easily adjust our work schedules to drive or, like some of her classmates in our neighborhood, don’t have a car to use to either drive to school or drive to a bus stop that is now over a mile away, the bus service is important and I hope they don’t get rid of it all together. If so, moving the kids that were in SEES schools back to their neighborhood schools just because of transportation isn’t necessarily going to improve the neighborhood school and the SEES kids will have to adjust to curriculum that might be behind their abilities – not good for them. There would, in my mind, need to be a “gifted” track in every school and that “school within a school” isn’t always the best choice either. It will be very interesting what these cuts are and the impact they have on families and long-term on SEES/Magnet enrollment.

  • 1223. jen  |  July 25, 2015 at 8:44 pm

    Is CPS only consolidating bus routes for magnets or is it for SEES too?

  • 1224. Learning CPS  |  July 26, 2015 at 12:01 pm

    @1223 The news reports say both magnet and SEES, but since the new routes/stops haven’t been shared it is hard to tell if one will be affected more than the other yet. In some cases, Decatur and Stone being an example, SEES and Magnets might have been sharing a route already so I would imagine any cuts to stops will impact both.

  • 1225. jen  |  July 26, 2015 at 1:18 pm

    Good. Originally they had only stated magnet and my feeling was that if they are going to cut, everyone needs to feel the loss, not just one group.

  • 1226. xan  |  July 26, 2015 at 4:17 pm

    @1221 For tier 3 & 4, bus may be convenience but for most tier 1 & 2 families its a necessity. I think parents should think about the impact it will have on most disadvantaged students when advocating policy changes.

    Like 1224 said schools are already sharing buses and consolidating bus stops.

  • 1227. LeQuanda Jackson  |  July 27, 2015 at 4:22 pm

    Would the overpaid teachers be willing to take a pay cut for the childrens?

  • 1228. new start times?  |  July 27, 2015 at 4:46 pm

    Has CPS posted a list of elementary schools moving to a new start time yet? I can see waiting a day or two to let schools notify families first, but by now, what is the big secret? No news from our school, so I assume nothing is changing. However, it sure would be nice if there was a posted list somewhere where I could check.

  • 1229. Robin in WRP  |  July 27, 2015 at 6:13 pm

    LeQuanda – it is more likely the the younger, enthusiastic, underpaid and over worked teachers will continue to flee CPS for suburban schools and private industry.

  • 1230. D Jones  |  July 27, 2015 at 7:10 pm

    “will continue to flee CPS for suburban schools and private industry.”

    Makes sense, less chance of getting assaulted.

  • 1231. TigerDad  |  July 31, 2015 at 7:58 pm

    Can any one tell me – is there a big difference between Pritzker and Edison/Coonley/Bell? I know edison is really good but is there a stark difference? My daughter has been accepted into Pritzker 2nd grade though she has the cut off for Edison but there are no slots. Would you suggest I take Pritzker or wait for Edison – 2 students ahead of her at Edison. Please advise. Thanks

  • 1232. OptionsMom  |  July 31, 2015 at 8:04 pm

    Edison is much better then Pritzker but it’s almost impossible to get in. How much did she score on the test?
    I would compare Pritzker with your child’s current school.

  • 1233. Tier4Mom  |  July 31, 2015 at 8:45 pm

    It is not that one is so much better than the other… give me a break. It depends what you want. I would check out the options for each school and then decide. Teachers and parents matter before anything else. You should be looking at what happens inside the classroom… does they teacher differentiate, teach across the curriculum and integrate the lessons…. Most Chicago Public Schools drill for the tests and the books they use are pretty standard. One thing to keep in mind is you could always go to your neighborhood school so, you might want to try your offer and decide after the initial year.

  • 1234. TigerDad  |  August 1, 2015 at 2:50 pm

    Options `Mom
    daughter got 139 tier 4

    I can’t believe that Ogden in downtown is similar to Pritzker Gifted….just hard to believe. Why do you think so? All RGCs are 2 years ahead?

  • 1235. TigerDad  |  August 1, 2015 at 5:40 pm

    I don’t think so. You were the one who said that you compare it…unless I understood wrong. let me know

  • 1236. Lin  |  August 3, 2015 at 2:43 pm

    Hi there. My son got NWEA match 248 and reading 236. I wonder what the percentiles they are. Can anymore tell me? Strangely Lenart didn’t send NWEA report at the end of the school year. Thanks in advance!

  • 1237. Jen K  |  August 3, 2015 at 4:29 pm

    @1236. Depends on the grade. I googled “nwea map score percentiles” and found this

  • 1239. Lin  |  August 4, 2015 at 2:14 pm

    @Jen Thanks! I have that form too. But it’s for 2005… My son is in Grade 5. He got all A’s and wants to try for Witney Young this winter. I want to know the percentiles so much. Unfortunately we are at Tier 4!

  • 1240. @Jen & Lin  |  August 4, 2015 at 2:35 pm

    The norms you need would be from 2011. I believe that was the last time the NWEA was normed. Google NWEA 2011 norms rit to percentile conversion.

  • 1241. Lin  |  August 5, 2015 at 2:02 pm

    @1240 Thanks for sharing!

  • 1242. Hmmm  |  August 7, 2015 at 12:35 pm

    Earlier this week, we declined an SEES seat at Skinner West for our incoming 3rd grader (tier 3). So the process is still moving. I hope this clears up a seat for someone who wants Skinner West!

  • 1243. What to do?  |  August 9, 2015 at 4:58 pm

    The process is definitely still moving. Just got an offer for 1st grade Bell. Can’t even remember my child’s score since we had put it out of our mind as a possibility. Maybe 125? Or even 123? Our neighborhood school is Coonley, and we are really struggling with our decision. Need to decide by Tuesday, and are leaning towards staying at Coonley where our older child also attends.

  • 1244. otdad  |  August 9, 2015 at 5:39 pm

    Logistically, it’s doable. The younger one can take school bus from Coonley. Unless you feel the kids are totally set, I would let the younger one give Bell a try. The accelerated curriculum in an RGC might be a good thing in the long run. S/he can always just come back to Coonley if s/he doesn’t like Bell.

  • 1245. cps rescind  |  August 10, 2015 at 1:11 pm

    press release…cps reversing some bell times. My only question is why didn’t they listen to educators, students, and parents before changing and disrupting schedules?
    As usual, CPS put the cart before the horse.


  • 1246. Ivy  |  August 10, 2015 at 2:19 pm

    How about Lincoln elementary vs. Bell gifted? Which one is better? Could someone give out some advice? I’m not familiar with Bell, Lincoln park has good neighbor hood, convenient traffic and abundant education resources around. Lincoln elementary also has IB program in higher grade. Is that worthwhile to transfer from Lincoln to Bell gifted for a 1st grader?

  • 1247. Robin in WRP  |  August 11, 2015 at 5:31 am

    ivy – not every school is the right fit for every child. Since you don’t have the chance to do much research right now, I would consider whether or not your child was sufficiently challenged in kindergarten

  • 1248. LSmom  |  August 11, 2015 at 7:59 am

    @Ivy, Bell’s RGC is also in a good neighborhood, and is well-resourced (for CPS). Class sizes are 28 in the lower grades and 32 in the higher grades. Traffic is not great, especially when there is construction on Western.

  • 1249. cps rescind  |  August 13, 2015 at 8:17 pm

    cps now apologizing for bell change botched communication


  • 1250. Susan  |  August 17, 2015 at 8:42 pm

    Hello – my apologies as I am sure this has been covered but I am new with this inquiry and seeking feedback (and don’t have time to read 1200+ posts)! Incoming 1st grader just received call today for a seat at Skinner North. We are thrilled! But have considerations including that 1st grader is the oldest of three and the thought of three kids on different schedules is overwhelming for a household where both parents work outside the home. Had a good kindergarten year at a parochial school; any thoughts on how to compare quality of education between public and parochial? Would we be crazy to consider passing on the seat? Thanks so much!

  • 1251. SN parent  |  August 17, 2015 at 8:51 pm

    Susan – I would love to talk with you. Feel free to email me your contact info – fosnemail@gmail.com

  • 1252. parent  |  August 17, 2015 at 9:06 pm

    Hi Susan,
    I also have a new incoming 1st grader at Skinner North who is the oldest of three. Not sure I can give you much advice, but if you want to talk, would be nice to connect with another new family.

  • 1253. Door knocker  |  August 17, 2015 at 9:42 pm

    @Susan, what was your score?

  • 1254. Waiting  |  August 18, 2015 at 11:16 am

    @Whattodo and Ivy, did you guys accept you Bell 1st grad spots? Do you remember what your scores were?

  • 1255. AE  |  August 19, 2015 at 9:42 am

    @ TigerDad – What did you end up deciding re: your second grade RGC offer?

  • 1256. Somanyoptions  |  August 20, 2015 at 12:08 am

    Just got offered a gifted selective enrollment seat for third grade. We had also won the lottery at Franklin and were all set to transfer there from our neighborhood school. Am I crazy to be questioning the SEES offer?

  • 1257. For Somanyoptions  |  August 20, 2015 at 12:30 am

    Interesting dilemma. Hmmmm……does your child crave more challenging and more involved work? Were you feeling that your child was not being challenged enough at your neighborhood school? Franklin’s curriculum ‘may’ not necessarily be more accelerated than your neighborhood school. That may be worth looking into. Not sure which SEES you are considering, but is the school larger than Franklin? Franklin is pretty small. Do you think your child would thrive better in a smaller or larger environment? How do the extracurricular offerings of the two schools compare and do they appeal to your child? How do the commutes compare? Good luck in your decision!

  • 1258. CPS Disaster  |  August 20, 2015 at 4:25 pm

    CPS SEHS delivering the best and brightest….

    “WICKER PARK — Five young men, including a scholarship college student and a Whitney Young High School graduate with high honors, are charged in a brutal robbery in which the victim was beaten with baseball bats, a metal pole and sprayed with a can of mace at a busy Shell gas station Tuesday afternoon.”


    All CPS schools are a disaster, including SEHS. Grade inflation, dumbing down tests and changing benchmarks only go so far. Don’t fool yourself.

    Thanks CTU!!!!!

  • 1259. jen  |  August 20, 2015 at 6:24 pm

    Do you not remember the awful hazing incident at Glenbard South a few years ago? This kind of stuff happens everywhere. Children and adults make terrible choices sometimes. Those young men will go to prison for what they did as they should.


  • 1260. otdad  |  August 20, 2015 at 9:30 pm

    @1258. CPS Disaster:
    You seem to have based on your judgment on 1 incident to generalize CPS that has 400k students. Have you looked into the backgrounds of those students? To me, it’s not much about bad schools, rather more about bad parents, which most people on this board are trying to avoid.

  • 1261. Barb s  |  August 29, 2015 at 5:28 pm

    Our son will be starting 1st grade at sees school. We were just informed that they have a new first grade teacher but no other info was given. I’d enquired about the new teachers’ professional background and was told that it was personal information that can’t be shared. Frankly I was stunned by this response. Can anyone offer some insight?

  • 1262. Barb s  |  August 29, 2015 at 5:50 pm

    Excuse me…inquired

  • 1263. Common Core Drone 736485  |  August 29, 2015 at 8:07 pm

    I inquired “about the new teachers’ professional background and was told that it was personal information that can’t be shared”

    The government overlords do not like to be questioned. Your child will be taught what we say he or she (or the combo) should be taught. The instructor does not matter. Union rules state they are all the same. Please move along or a note will be placed in your file.

  • 1264. jen  |  August 29, 2015 at 10:45 pm

    @1261, Talk to the teacher when your child starts. I would bet my house that she’ll be happy to share her professional background. It sounds to me like you were either talking to a principal who has been burnt to a crisp by CPS’s legal rules and is afraid to say anything or an overworked and exhausted clerk who is confused.

  • 1265. PandaDaddy  |  August 30, 2015 at 8:28 am

    What has happened at Skinner North?

    Went to Skinner North Back-to-School picnic yesterday (8/29) and learned that there might be still 13 spots available for the 2 classes of K. There are students list on the wall showing that one K class has 23 students and the other 24. The school starts next week and there are so many spots to be filled! Anyone knows what is going on there? Why this is happening?

  • 1266. parent  |  August 30, 2015 at 8:47 am

    Wow! I was at the picnic too but didn’t look at the K list. How can that be? I have an incoming 1st grader and they have 30 kids in each class. That is so odd because on CPS obsessed at least there were a ton of families trying to get into SN for K with very high scores who were not accepted at the beginning of the process. Did they really get that many declines and actually exhaust the wait list for K? Doesn’t seem possible for such a sought after school. Odd. Makes me concerned for what’s going on as well. Anyone have any insights?

  • 1267. CPSer  |  August 30, 2015 at 9:03 am

    @1266 Maybe the principal is trying to keep numbers down for K? Thirty in a K class is crazy.

  • 1268. PandaDaddy  |  August 30, 2015 at 9:15 am

    @1267 The principal told us there will be 30 students in each K class and they are waiting for pending offers for other spots. It seems to be strange to me there are so many spots pending as for now. Anyone knows if this was the case in the past years for K admission at Skinner North?

  • 1269. michele  |  August 30, 2015 at 10:35 am

    @1261 every year Parents at CPS schools can request the educational background of their child’s Teacher. It’s policy and you can request the info on a Standard CPS issued form. You might want to follow up with Central office and/or remind the Principal about the standard policy.

  • 1270. CLB  |  August 30, 2015 at 10:51 am

    @1261 If you have the teacher’s name you can look it him or her up on the state website: http://webprod.isbe.net/ELISInquiry/NormalPages/Educators.aspx

    You can also look up by the school as well, but I’m not certain a new teacher would be updated in the state system yet.

    This only contains their certification info — not college degrees or other info.

  • 1271. Barb s  |  August 30, 2015 at 10:59 am

    CLB thanks for that! I found absolutely nothing on Internet.

  • 1272. Tier4Mom  |  August 30, 2015 at 11:23 am

    A few things… the principal should be eager and proud of the new hire! This story sounds just silly. What school is this at??? Also, from my understanding and talking with my daughter’s teacher she told us that 27 was the max for a gifted Kinder class.

  • 1273. Skinner parent  |  August 30, 2015 at 12:48 pm

    As to Skinner North, I asked the principal about the K list and they only put the names up for kids who completed the kindergarten round up event last week. They have full classes minus four kids, and they are waiting for those families to confirm ASAP. There is still the usual huge wait list for a spot–no worries there!

  • 1274. Hmmm  |  August 30, 2015 at 1:10 pm

    We received an email on Friday, 8/28, offering our son a 3rd grade seat at Skinner North. Can anyone here please share their experience transferring into Skinner North? Our son has been under challenged at his current school, but we’re wondering what it might be like to catch up as an incoming 3rd grader. Thank you in advance for your thoughts.

  • 1275. SNMom2024  |  August 31, 2015 at 12:06 am

    We received a call for a kindergarten spot at Skinner North this past Thursday (we are accepting. 99 math, 95 reading, can’t recall the RGC score, tier4). We went to the picnic as well and noticed that there seemed to be some capacity in K. I heard that there were a few last minute departures to Lab/private school. SN was our first choice and we went back into the pool after being offered NTA. I’m so glad we hung in there (have a tuition refund situation to sort out now though). Fingers crossed for everyone still waiting but just know that placements are definitely still happening at SEES. All the best to you all.

  • 1276. PandaDaddy  |  August 31, 2015 at 9:35 am

    @1273 Thanks for clearing things up for us with regard to Skinner North.

    @1275 Congrats!

  • 1277. Ivy  |  September 4, 2015 at 6:56 pm

    Just received a call from CPS late afternoon today, offer for Coonley gifted Kindergarten.

    Seems very lucky to get accepted just before the first school day.

    RGC score: 144, tier 4.

  • 1278. Ivy  |  September 4, 2015 at 7:03 pm

    @Waiting, sorry for replying late.. My son was applying K instead of 1st grade, I had thought no hope before, so was thinking whether should try once more the next year for Bell. Sorry for confusing you and hope you Good Luck!

  • 1279. MomPrit  |  September 6, 2015 at 1:06 pm

    Dear Editor, have some questions on advertising on cps obsessed….can you send me an email address i can write to you at please? Thanks

  • 1280. Robin in WRP  |  September 6, 2015 at 1:10 pm

    Please don’t

  • 1281. jen  |  September 6, 2015 at 2:57 pm

    @1276 Yes, 30 in a kindergarten classroom is crazy, no matter how skilled the teacher. The International Reading Association is now recommending no more more than 3-4 students per reading group because beyond that, it is no longer considered a small enough to be highly effective. That’s at least 8 reading groups per class. I’ve had that many reading groups in the past, but in that case, without another dedicated staff member coming in every day during reading groups, you cannot get to every group every day. And to ensure the best instruction, meeting daily with each group is necessary. On top of that, most classrooms have at least 5-10 kids who need serious remediation and they need a double daily dose of small group reading work or individual work daily. Kindergartens should be capped at 20, no exceptions, and if the school doesn’t have the space then their needs to be two full time teachers in the room all day. This really should be a state law. I’m fortunate to teach in a lovely little suburb, though high poverty, has instituted this rule and we also have reading specialists and many other resource teachers to provide additional daily support. All children and teachers deserve this.

  • 1282. jen  |  September 6, 2015 at 7:26 pm

    “there needs” not their

  • 1283. OldTownMama  |  September 9, 2015 at 12:17 pm

    Apologies if this has already been covered but I’m having trouble finding the answer. My son will be taking the gifted and classical tests this fall. (He will be starting kindergarten in fall 2016.) I’m anticipating he may perform a lot better on the gifted test than the classical test. If we list a classical school as our no. 1 choice and an RGC as our no. 2 choice and my son’s scores are not good enough to get him into the classical school but ARE high enough to get him a spot at an RGC, have we hurt his chances of getting into our second choice RGC school by listing a classical school first? Does my question make sense?

  • 1284. SN Mom  |  September 9, 2015 at 12:26 pm

    @1283 I also struggled with this question and posed it here a few times (as well as with a school consultant) and never could really get a straight answer – sorry I can’t tell you anything definitive. However, I will tell you this – I was certain my daughter would do better on the RGC test and while she did well and was accepted to an RGC, her Classical score was significantly higher ranked and she is currently at Skinner North. Your kid might surprise you and so the advice I was always given was to rank the schools based on where you would really like to see your child go (location, feelings after touring, logistics like start times and such) and don’t worry about trying to “play the odds” as the testing and kiddos are so unpredictable and you just can’t count on anything in this crazy process! Good luck!

  • 1285. Mom  |  September 9, 2015 at 1:18 pm


    I had Edison Regional as first choice, and Decatur as second, Skinner North as third.
    My son (tier 4) scored 134 on Kindergarten gifted, and 99.9/99.9 on classical. They offered us Decatur in the first round acceptance letter. We took it as I knew we would never get into Edison in later rounds.

  • 1286. LSmom  |  September 9, 2015 at 1:49 pm

    @1283, it doesn’t hurt your chances of getting into a RGC at all to list a classical school first. The best strategy is to rank in the order of your actual preference.

  • 1287. CPSmo  |  September 9, 2015 at 8:33 pm

    @1285, did you son get into Decatur with a score of 134 this year? My child scored the same and didn’t get offers to any of the RGC we applied to. I am pretty sure I ranked Skinner North and West first.

  • 1288. @1287  |  September 9, 2015 at 9:54 pm

    Decatur is a classical school and they use the percentiles from the test, so they used the 99.9 scores for the poster at 1285. Decatur doesn’t use the gifted score (134). The gifted test and classical test are two different tests with separate scores.

  • 1289. southloop  |  September 10, 2015 at 7:57 pm

    We just offered a South Loop Gifted spot for 4th grade. Any pros and cons as regards to their gifted program or school in general. Any feedback is greatly appreciated!

  • 1290. OldTownMama  |  September 10, 2015 at 8:53 pm

    Thanks, everyone, for the answers to my question @1283.

  • 1291. Anotherchoice  |  September 10, 2015 at 10:29 pm

    I need some feedback! We just received a call today from CPS stating that our just-turned-5 yr old is being offered a gifted spot at National Teachers Academy (NTA). After much research we decided to send him to Blaine (our neighborhood school). We feel invested there now, of course, but do not want to overlook this offer to get him into a gifted program. Can anyone offer any advice? Especially feedback on NTA as a school?

  • 1292. Rose from Idaho  |  September 11, 2015 at 11:21 am

    Long time listener, first time caller. Thanks for all your hard work and the solid information, CPO. Just wanted to let y’all know that we just turned down a last-minute offer of a spot at Skinner North for our son, who is in the 5th grade. Some lucky kid’s parents should be getting a call soon…. Boy, wish we’d gotten this call in June or July.

  • 1293. Drida  |  September 11, 2015 at 11:48 am

    @1291 – Blaine is a strong and sought after school. NTA is about 10 miles away from your neighborhood, I estimate. Unless you or someone in your family has easy transportation to NTA, I think that is a no-brainer. A 10-mile commute from Lakeview (?) to Chinatown (?) would be a pain, especially because I believe there would be no bus either. There was a lot of NTA discussing in this board in the past several months – CTRL-F NTA for more info. I’d stay put.

  • 1294. For Anotherchoice  |  September 11, 2015 at 6:46 pm

    I am sure NTA has some good things to offer but considering your current option and the distance of NTA I would highly recommend staying put. Doesn’t Blaine have an in-house Comprehensive Gifted Program? Perhaps your child will qualify for that. Also, you can always test again for first grade and add Bell to your list (also Coonley, Edison, Skinner North, Decatur, maybe Beaubien) if you feel your child needs more challenge than they find at Blaine.

  • 1295. grace street  |  September 11, 2015 at 6:54 pm

    @1291 there’s more to the school experience than just being in an accelerated program. Consider the overall experience for your child, including an extensive commute. Blaine has a very good reputation. I’d give that a chance before going anywhere else.

  • 1296. Anotherchoice  |  September 12, 2015 at 8:26 am

    Thank you all for your feedback on NTA vs Blaine. All if the things you said made sense and were part of our own discussion and final decision to turn the NTA offer down. We made our decision to join Blaine after so much research and careful thought about what would be right for our son and our family and are already reaping the benefits of having a true community here. It’s odd how these late calls can rock your world and make you rethink things you know are right. He will be challenged at Blaine and very happy! Thank you!

  • 1297. South Loop Mom  |  September 12, 2015 at 8:35 am

    Anotherchoice: We are an NTA family and are very happy there. It’s a great school and program. Yet, it’s our neighborhood school, and a big part of what we love is the convenience. I’ve heard great things about Blaine and would have made the same choice you did! No need for logistical gymnastics. Have a great year.

  • 1298. curious  |  September 12, 2015 at 10:13 am

    @1296 Do you mind telling me what your son’s RGC score was? Just curious!

  • 1299. keller mom  |  September 12, 2015 at 10:37 pm

    any 1 st grader parents from Keller: son forgot to bring back Friday homework, any parent can send over the homework images ? I really appreciate your helps! laughterintherain2001@yahoo.com

  • 1300. keller mom  |  September 13, 2015 at 5:52 am

    @Sloopmama,@SWsideProgressive,@ singlechildmom, @ProudKellerMom, @Mommyof1 @keller mom: Keller parents, morning commute is big headache because we have to wake up kid as early as 6:15 in the morning to ride school bus. Any keller parents who live nearby south loop would like a carpool ? please contact me at laughterintherain2001@yahoo.com Thanks!

  • 1301. Robin in WRP  |  September 13, 2015 at 6:06 am

    Keller Mom – it’s tough, but your son needs to learn the consequences of forgetting to bring home his homework.

  • 1302. 1stgradenow  |  September 14, 2015 at 9:00 pm

    We got a robo call at 5:18pm tonight offering our first grader a spot at Coonley. Her score was 122. We have to decide by 2pm tomorrow, so we have a lot of research to do between now and then. She’s currently at a parochial school that she has attended since she was 3.

    My question is though, do you think with a 122 she would be strugglng in the class? Or is that not a factor?
    Also, any first week thoughts on Coonley would be appreciated. Thank you!!

  • 1303. Gina  |  September 14, 2015 at 9:39 pm

    We have a first grader at Coonley and we love it! I am not sure about scoring for first grade tests so I can’t really tell if she will struggle or not. My son was bored at his school in PreK and he loved Kindergarten at Coonley. I would say if you feel that your child is not challenged at her school you might give it a try. Maybe we will see you soon! 🙂

  • 1304. Milamom  |  September 14, 2015 at 9:44 pm

    @1st grade now-don’t worry about the score. They tend to run lower in grade 1 than the other grades for some reason, and the testing isn’t particularly accurate at young ages anyway. You know your child best so go with what you think would be a good fit. My son got into Beaubien with a lower score than that 3 years ago and had thrived there.

  • 1305. Anotherchoice  |  September 14, 2015 at 10:01 pm

    @1298. Sorry I didn’t respond sooner! My son’s score was a 134.

  • 1306. ldtp  |  September 14, 2015 at 10:28 pm

    Please help- just got a call for skinner west classical program..4th grade. Pros and cons of switching from a Montessori school? Thank u.

  • 1307. Confused  |  September 14, 2015 at 10:37 pm

    @ IDTP—> Skinner west doesn’t have a classical program???? They got rid of it their are ONLY 4 classical schools…. Skinner north Macade Poe and Decatur…. Are you sure ????

  • 1308. 1stgradenow  |  September 15, 2015 at 6:04 am

    @milamom and @gina, thanks for the feedback. Hard to decide especially when it would mean pulling her out of her current class. I’m going to call Coonley today and ask a few more questions.

  • 1309. LearningCPS  |  September 15, 2015 at 9:30 am

    @1307 – Skinner West still has a classical program…I know several people who have children in it including one who started K this year. They also have a neighborhood component as well. There has been chatter about phasing the classical out it as the neighborhood classrooms get super full, but as of now I don’t think that is the case.

  • 1310. otdad  |  September 15, 2015 at 3:06 pm

    @1306. ldtp:
    Accelerated curriculum.
    Education minded families.
    Because the teachers don’t have to deal with drastic differences in academic levels, instruction quality maybe slightly better.

    Possible cons:
    playdates and birthday parties could be all over town.

  • 1311. Too late  |  September 15, 2015 at 5:06 pm

    We turned down a 1st grade offer at Skinner West last week and another 1st grade offer from Skinner North today. Hope someone waiting gets a call from either of them soon.

  • 1312. jen  |  September 15, 2015 at 7:38 pm

    @1310, every school has drastic differences in academic levels. A gifted or classical school can easily have a 2nd grader working at a 3rd grade math level and another at a 7th grade math level, or a 6th grader who reads and comprehends post graduate texts with ease alongside another who is struggling with 6th grade CCSS. Its really no different in that respect than any other school.

  • 1313. otdad  |  September 16, 2015 at 12:51 pm

    @1312. jen:
    That is true, but I think there might be a difference in teaching a class of students all well above grade level vs. a class of students with many students below or at grade level. The teacher for the former can focus on deeper thinking skills, while the later has to focus on basics.

  • 1314. jen  |  September 16, 2015 at 4:17 pm

    And the deeper skills are actually much, much harder to teach. These take far more skill, time and resources than the lower level skills. Taking on those kind of differences and differentiating for them take hours and hours of planning and work, unique to each year, each group, each kid. So, no, no easier.
    It is possible that instructional quality would be higher merely because the families who send children to these kinds of programs tend to be involved parents who value education.

  • 1315. OptionsMom  |  September 16, 2015 at 4:40 pm

    Hi All,

    I am wondering if you would share you children ‘s NWEA scores ( or map).
    Spring of 1 st grade would be very helpful to me. My child was at the 99% with 209 score. I talked to a school in the suburbs And they said nobody was in their gifted program with the same score( the kid most likely would not qualify).
    Thank you!

  • 1316. parent  |  September 16, 2015 at 5:00 pm

    My daughter is at skinner north and kindergarten spring MAP scores were both 99% math 202 and reading 204. I know that’s a year behind your scores so not sure that’s helpful but would imagine projected growth over an entire year would put her above 209 in both by Spring of 1st grade. Growth in math over K year was 30 points and growth in reading was 16. What MAP score did they say would qualify for gifted out of curiosity? MAP really isn’t a measure of giftedness at all.

  • 1317. Robin in WRP  |  September 16, 2015 at 8:24 pm

    Suburban gifted programs are more likely to be for children who are actually gifted (less than 5% of the population)

  • 1318. jen  |  September 16, 2015 at 8:37 pm

    @1314, Suburban schools differ school to school, district to district, so I really can’t generalize. However, in the few schools I know of with strong gifted programs, they use a combination of 3-5 measures to determine who enters the program or not. A good program will use grades/teacher recommendation/test scores (various) and other measures like writing samples, science fair entries, etc. It has also been my experience that in most places, gifted ed doesn’t begin until about 3rd grade due to a plethora of research that indicates this as best practice. I only know of CPS starting in kindergarten, and well, CPS is not a good educational model.
    I think you need more information from the school you were looking at to figure out their criteria. MAP scores are being used for all kinds of things they are not supposed to be, including gifted entrance in some cases, and this is one reason anti-testers indicate when bringing attention to the issue.

  • 1319. Barb s  |  September 25, 2015 at 3:14 pm

    Our child is in rgc 1st grade at Beaubien. Even though this was not our top choice school we were happy to get into the program. However we were just offered a spot at Disney magnet. Having heard so many great things about Disney we are not sure which path to take..any thoughts would be appreciated.

  • 1320. 60660  |  September 28, 2015 at 1:57 pm

    I think the only reason to consider Disney over Beaubien is if the commute is dramatically shorter?
    Disney is more intense. More focus on testing, more homework than an RGC. Access to the CGP is competitive. I wouldn’t choose Disney over a good neighborhood school for my kids. Some families I know who were there left for schools like Agassi or Solomon

  • 1321. OptionsMom  |  September 28, 2015 at 2:05 pm

    Are you talking about Disney or Disney II? They are two different schools.

    I have a child at Beaubien RGC and they test heavily as well.

  • 1322. Barb s  |  September 28, 2015 at 2:26 pm

    Thank you! We are staying with Beaubien rgc.

  • 1323. DRC  |  October 15, 2015 at 11:30 am


  • 1324. Daphne Streeter  |  October 16, 2015 at 12:37 pm

    Went to my first open house. Was completely impressed with Poe Classical. This school has a classic, old school feel (100 years old, chalk boards, school pride) with new school methodologies (updated, smart boards, Covey’s 7 habits.) Got the feeling that they were not only giving a great education, but also creating leaders. One of the parents/grandparents at the open house had a son who went there 27 years ago and now her grandson is there. Granted, kudos to her, since they do have to test in. Poe will definitely be one of my top choices!

  • 1325. Just an Opinion  |  December 2, 2015 at 9:04 am

    My child was @ Poe Classical I pulled her out because I found out it was just glorified free babysitting for a few privileged kids and families who have their children in tutoring. Learning in school was never important because these children already knew what the teacher’s were attempting to teach. This created a chaotic environment within the classroom. teachers struggled to find a way to teach these extremely advanced children and the children who were in school to learn. Plus graduating students were only getting into Kenwood or Brooks AC. Not bad schools but not what you would expect from a “top performing” SEES. Just being honest. I see better performing neighborhood and magnet programs!

  • 1326. @1325  |  December 2, 2015 at 10:05 am

    What do you mean “just” getting into Kenwood???? Also, Brooks AC hasn’t even opened yet! Kenwood has an excellent program which is highly regarded especially in the Hyde Park community. The AC is diverse and very rigorous. Kenwood is a level 1 plus school and in my opinion I believe my child is getting a high quality education. Have you been to Kenwood’s open house? Do you know anyone who attends the school? Are you speaking from experience? Many people are pleased with the school and are not even considering leaving for SE schools.

  • 1327. LP  |  December 8, 2015 at 12:24 pm

    My girl is going into Kindergarden 2016. RGC 133, Reading 86, Math 67, Tier 3. We did not prep her at all for this test. Our picks for RG Edison, or Coonley. Lottery Disney 2 or Throp. Our neighborhood school is Smyser. She probably has no shot in getting into RG and slim for Lottery Im sure.

  • 1328. RPMom  |  December 8, 2015 at 12:37 pm

    LP, for comparison’s sake, we went through the process for 2015’s K. Son was RGC 142, Reading 88 and Math 93 and did not receive any offers for RGCs or Classical schools. We ended up lucking out on the lottery, so it all worked out in the end. It always does, I hear.

  • 1329. Hope  |  December 8, 2015 at 1:08 pm

    Applying for 1st grade. Anyone know if Skinner North will have spots available?? Or should we just put Bell, Beaubien, and Decatur on our list? Thanks.

  • 1330. SN parent  |  December 8, 2015 at 1:28 pm

    My DD got into skinner in 1st grade. There were about 4 new kids her year and I think most years there are a few spots as kids move to suburbs or out of town. Do keep in mind though that you might not get a call until well past other schools that it’s an entry year for (like Bell and some years Decatur) so you would need to pass up the other schools and hold out for skinner if you really want it. Many families don’t tell skinner that they are leaving until into end of spring or even early summer as they stall giving up their spots. Good luck!

  • 1331. @SN parent  |  December 11, 2015 at 2:43 pm

    SN Parent: Would you be willing to share your child’s score so that I can compare with mine in March to see if it’s worth waiting til September to get a SN 1st grade spot? Many thanks.

  • 1332. SN Parent  |  December 11, 2015 at 3:01 pm

    Sure. My child got into SN for 1st grade with 99 in math and 98 in reading. Beyond the entry year they do not give more detailed percentages (like 99.6 for example) as you might see for kindergarten. Good luck!

  • 1333. Kat  |  January 16, 2016 at 8:43 am

    Anyone know where the elementary testing on the IIT campus is today (Sat 1/16/16)? Never got our letter… Thanks!

  • 1334. Wreck  |  January 16, 2016 at 8:53 am

    It’s 3110 south state street good luck

  • 1335. Maria  |  March 29, 2016 at 7:39 am

    Good luck to everybody!!!! Fingers crossed!!!

  • 1336. Honey Buns  |  March 29, 2016 at 10:27 am

    Is it true that the letters will be going to Post Office March 30 ? Come on, let’s get this over with already !

  • 1337. Julie  |  March 29, 2016 at 10:50 am

    Yes. The web site says they will be mailed on Wednesday, Mar 30th


  • 1338. Lella  |  April 1, 2016 at 5:50 pm

    Tier 3, I think
    RGC- 150
    Accepted to Coonley for 6th grade. We’re not really sure what to do. We were hoping for Edison because it’s closer to us. Does Coonley provide transportation? I’m guessing not.

    Other child wasn’t accepted anywhere. Ugh.

  • 1339. Annie  |  April 2, 2016 at 9:55 pm

    I haven’t read much in terms of the climate at beaubien with the exception of what people have “heard”.Is there anyone who can comment on the program and school experience? Thanks!

  • 1340. hopefullmom  |  April 5, 2016 at 12:07 am

    my daughter got RGC 117. Reading 71 and Math 99. no offers but could there still be some hope?

  • 1341. chitranair7  |  April 5, 2016 at 1:42 pm

    My daughter is applying to 5th grade ( tier 4). She got RGC: 140 , 96 reading, 99 Math . She did not get her first and second choice school ( skinner north/ skinner west). Should we wait for the second round? Are these scores good to get her into these schools?

  • 1342. parent  |  April 5, 2016 at 1:54 pm

    @1339. there is a lot of discussion about Beaubien on the 2016 thread. This is the 2015 thread.

    @1340. Those scores are probably too low for any offers.

    @1341. Possible, but for the upper grades they usually don’t even know about openings until the summer when people let the school know they are leaving. The RGC score is high. Did you apply to RGCs?

    You guys should post on the 2016 thread.

  • 1343. ldtp  |  April 5, 2016 at 2:19 pm

    My sons scores were around that last year and got into Skinner West for 4th grade this year. We got the offer the first week of school and accepted it. He loves it there!

  • 1344. chitranair7  |  April 5, 2016 at 2:35 pm

    Thanks so much for your responses. I will post my comments on the 2016 thread.. Just one clarification.. We are in the Open tier. We live in the suburbs so we do not fall under any tier. Not sure if that will make it more difficult. Also, are we allowed to change our school preferences? Can I add schools from the RGC.

  • 1345. so frustrated  |  April 5, 2016 at 2:55 pm

    Did anyone receive the SEES letter in the mail today?

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