2012 Academic Centers – Post News Here!

March 25, 2012 at 7:14 pm 254 comments

These are LAST YEAR’s cut-off scores so we can compare to this year to see if they’ve risen like the high school cut-offs did.  Also will be interesting to see the impact of Lane in the portfolio.

2012-2013 cutoffs are posted here.

Please note that a reader has reported that WYAC will not be doing a second round, per the school AC coordinator.  If you want to turn down something else for a shot at 2nd round WYAC, I suggest calling the school to confirm this.  Good luck!



Like the High Schools, AC admission is based on 30% rank + the Tiers using a score of 900 points that includes 5th grade grades, 5th grade ISATs, and the AC entry test.

If you post news, include your tier and child’s score.

And good luck!

This was the scoring rubric from last year:


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  • 1. Correction  |  March 25, 2012 at 8:16 pm

    I believe there are two mistakes in this posting:

    1. AC’s use 5th grade grades and ISAT scores for 7th grade admission.
    2. The table provided displays AVERAGE scores for each tier, not cutoffs (minimums).

  • 2. PortageParent  |  March 25, 2012 at 8:31 pm

    CPSo – no Lane scores for last year?

  • 3. Chicago School GPS  |  March 25, 2012 at 8:46 pm

    Academic Center scores from 2011-2012 (w/o Lane)


    Lane AC scores from 2011-2012


    The Academic Centers use a 900 point scale for entry, taking into account 5th grade ISATs, 5th grade final grades in core subjects (Math, Science, Social Studies & Reading) and a 6th grade entry test (mainly an IQ test similar to the OLSAT). Criteria for scoring rubric can be found here:

  • 4. cpsobsessed  |  March 25, 2012 at 8:47 pm

    Thanks @Correction. I made a chart with the cutoffs, which are always more helpful. I’ll see if I can find the Lane scores from last year.

    CPSMagnet.org says the score includes grades and ISATs for the prior year. The kids are applying in 6th grade for a 7th grade spot, so… yeah, wow. That is kinda crazy. I guess you are right! Took me a minute to get my head around that one. Wow, 5th grade Grades and ISATs to get a 7th grade spot. Which really is in hopes of getting a high school spots. Not QUITE as crazy as testing a 4 year old for a spot they’ll have through 8th grade (gifted test) but it’s getting there.

    Thanks again for catching that!

  • 5. PortageParent  |  March 25, 2012 at 8:50 pm

    CPSo – I have the Lane cutoffs from last year. I’m pretty sure that I got them from a link on this very blog 😉

  • 6. RL Julia  |  March 25, 2012 at 8:53 pm

    http://cpsmagnet.org/ourpages/auto/2011/2/24/52593646/Lane%20Academic%20Center%20Cutoff%20Scores.pdf – here are the Lane cut off scores.

  • 7. RL Julia  |  March 25, 2012 at 8:55 pm

    http://cpsmagnet.org/ourpages/auto/2011/2/24/52593646/Academic%20Center%20Cutoff%20Scores%202011-2012%20–%20Round%20One.pdf – here are the cutoff scores for the first round (I am not aware of how many -if there were any -subsequent rounds were done for last year’s AC admissions)

  • 8. psmom  |  March 25, 2012 at 9:32 pm

    My understanding is Lane is taking 30 8th graders this year and 120 7th graders.

  • 9. Smadness  |  March 26, 2012 at 7:03 am

    Note: AC scores are based on 5th grade ISATs and grades , not 6th.

  • 10. RL Julia  |  March 26, 2012 at 7:54 am

    30 8th graders and roughly 300 applicants for the 8th grade slots is what understood.

  • 11. AC mom  |  March 26, 2012 at 8:23 am

    Taft had many many rounds last year. Lane had a second round. Whitney didn’t. I would think there would be spots available at Taft as well as there has been attrition due to relocation, academic performance and discipline issues

  • 12. mom in the city  |  March 26, 2012 at 8:45 am

    They NEVER take students going into 8th grade at WY. The program is 6 years and starts in 7th. I have heard of other academic center schools that take 8th graders

  • 13. cpsmama  |  March 26, 2012 at 8:57 am

    @12- WY does take a few 8th graders into the AC from time to time if they have openings and if the student is qualified. We’re talking 1 or 2- and that is only if there is space. (Never say NEVER)

  • 14. mom in the city  |  March 26, 2012 at 9:01 am

    I’ve never seen it at WY…AND they have openings EVERY year from kids that leave in 7th grade.

  • 15. anonymous  |  March 26, 2012 at 9:03 am

    I have a child in Lane’s AC this year.The 7th grade class did not fill this year. There are approximately 75 kids in it and the school is trying to fill the 8th grade class for the fall, so there maybe up to 50 spots available. The AC director at Lane said the school had approximately 1200 applicants for the 7th grade class for the fall.

  • 16. cpsobsessed  |  March 26, 2012 at 9:05 am

    Why didn’t the lane class fill for the Fall?

    Because it was a late entry? That was last year, right?

    I do wonder if it could be worth pursuing a “transfer” (this nebulous concept I’ve heard of) at the ACs, assuming a kid is willing to move schools after school begins.

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  • 17. mom in the city  |  March 26, 2012 at 9:08 am

    Was last yr Lane’s first year as an ac?

  • 18. psmom  |  March 26, 2012 at 9:20 am

    @15 How are things going this year? Are you happy?

  • 19. cpsobsessed  |  March 26, 2012 at 9:40 am

    I know someone who got burley #1 for 3rd grade.

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  • 20. AC Mom  |  March 26, 2012 at 9:57 am

    I find it very interesting that Lane did not ‘fill up’ last year. I know of many many families that did not get AC offers last year, even some of those that received and turned down offers at Taft. I wonder if CPS imposed a score floor to insure success? ?

    I know of a few kids that left at the beginning of the year. Could that be the reason for the 75 students versus the original 90 for the class.

  • 21. AnxiousParent  |  March 26, 2012 at 10:01 am

    CPS is reporting that the Notification letters for elementary magnet schools and programs and Selective Enrollment Elementary Schools have been mailed.

    Good luck to us all.

  • 22. LTAC Mom  |  March 26, 2012 at 10:21 am

    According to the class list, Lane Tech AC started with 86 7th graders last fall. If I remember correctly, they originally had hoped to take 90 students. Two students left after the first two weeks and their seats were filled. Three other students left by the end of the first quarter. The main reason for leaving appeared to be that the experience was more rigorous than expected.Now that program is up and running, CPS OAE gave LTAC the go-ahead to add 30 more seats to the eighth grade class. It looks like the future plan will be to have 120 7th graders and 120 8th graders each year. DD is having an amazing experience in LTAC. She is engaging in-depth research, excited about what she’s learning and enjoying her teachers and classmates immensely.

  • 23. Just Curious  |  March 26, 2012 at 10:40 am

    When CPS reports that the Notification letters for elementary magnet schools and programs and Selective Enrollment Elementary Schools have been mailed, does that include the AC’s?

  • 24. RGCFAN  |  March 26, 2012 at 10:56 am

    Hi. Does anyone know if I could get in to the WYAC with 92 98 All A’s? i also checked over my work and felt very confident with all of my answers. I would like to know what my chances are.

  • 25. RGCFAN  |  March 26, 2012 at 10:57 am

    Also, does anyone know the 6th grade cutoff for Keller?

  • 26. cpsobsessed  |  March 26, 2012 at 11:02 am

    A friend of mine got their SEES letter this morning, so they are out there (elem, not AC.)

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  • 27. cpsobsessed  |  March 26, 2012 at 11:10 am

    RGCFAN, do you know what tier you live in?

    It depends how you did on the AC test. If I assume you did similarly to the isats, I’d guess your total points will be around 867-873 out of 900 (but again, this depends on the AC test score).

    Check the cutoffs from last year. But keep in mind the cuttoffs could change and it depends on your tier as well.

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  • 28. junior  |  March 26, 2012 at 11:47 am

    @24 RGCFAN/27 CPSO

    AC test is different than the SE test — would not expect him/her to have a score as high as 867-873. I know a kid with 99/99 going in, who ended up with low 800’s for points. (The AC exam does a better job of differentiating levels of gifted kids. Surprised it’s not used for the other SE admissions, so that we don’t get so many “perfect” and “near perfect” scores — might reduce a lot of griping.)

    With 92/98, you would need to do *extremely* well on the entrance exam. In past years, it seems that most kids had trouble finishing the exam, so if you finished and reviewed answers, that’s a very good sign.

  • 29. Sharon Brinkman  |  March 26, 2012 at 12:30 pm

    The AC test is completely different from the SE test. It really is an IQ test, not a test of what you learned in school. I would think it would be practically impossible to get a perfect score on it and I HIGHLY recommend taking the test prep course for it.

  • 30. WYACobsessed  |  March 26, 2012 at 12:34 pm


    this site says that the mins were above the average of the chart above. Which is correct?

  • 31. psmom  |  March 26, 2012 at 12:41 pm

    The chart above is from the 2010/2011 year. Somehow in the past week CPS removed the document from 2011/12 and replaced it with old data.

  • 32. cpsobsessed  |  March 26, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    Thanks psmom. I’ll check my computer to see if I have last year’s cutoffs.

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  • 33. CPS Mom  |  March 26, 2012 at 1:04 pm

    CPS still has both the 2010-11 data (Spring 2010 acceptance for 2010-11 school year) AND the 2011-12 data up.

    @3 Chicago School GPS posted links to the 2011-12 academic center data. That data is for acceptance in Spring 2011 for the 2011-12 (current) school year.

    Good luck, all!

  • 34. mom  |  March 26, 2012 at 1:33 pm

    One commenter says there are 50 spots in Lane’s 8th grade and the other says 30? Just wondering what the basis is for the 50?

  • 35. psmom  |  March 26, 2012 at 1:48 pm

    My son got into Lane AC for 8th grade, currently at a Catholic School. Just drove home over lunch to check to mail..

  • 36. Wondering  |  March 26, 2012 at 1:52 pm

    Congratulations, psmom.

  • 37. AnxiousParent  |  March 26, 2012 at 1:52 pm

    Congrats, psmom!!!!!

  • 38. Just Curious  |  March 26, 2012 at 1:55 pm

    @34 While there were supposed to be a total of 90 7th graders in this year’s Lane AC class, they ended the year with something around 75 (as I understand it, some of the kids transferred out – many because of the academic rigor, some moved). So, since they are expanding the size of both the 7th and 8th grade classes at LTAC to 120 for the coming school year, theoretically, they could offer spots to more than 30 incoming 8th graders, but that has not been confirmed by CPS as far as I know.

  • 39. psmom  |  March 26, 2012 at 2:00 pm

    Thanks! He missed it by 6 points last year and did way better this year.

  • 40. mom in the city  |  March 26, 2012 at 2:00 pm

    @35 Congratulations!!!

  • 41. IB&RGC Mom  |  March 26, 2012 at 2:17 pm

    I didn’t even think Lane would have spots in 8th grade! I would have gone through the process again. Not sure if she would want to leave at this point, but I would make the switch to secure her spot in HS!

  • 42. curious  |  March 26, 2012 at 2:20 pm

    p.s. mom–would you mind sharing the score?

  • 43. psmom  |  March 26, 2012 at 2:28 pm

    Sure! He got a 838.

  • 44. Disappointedmom  |  March 26, 2012 at 2:44 pm

    We applied for Lane, Kenwood and Taft didn’t get accepted for any AC school and my daughter is in Gifted at Thorp.

  • 45. curious  |  March 26, 2012 at 2:53 pm

    That’s a very high score. Congratulations.

  • 46. always questioning  |  March 26, 2012 at 3:04 pm

    Not sure which thread to post AC info on so posting on the Elementary and this one…

    Rejection for Lincoln’s IG

    Tier 4
    Score 822
    Would have easily gotten in 2 years ago with this score.

    Anybody have last years cutoffs for the IG programs?

  • 47. WYACobsessed  |  March 26, 2012 at 3:20 pm

    cps obsessed, nevermind I got 834. I did not get in.

  • 48. WYACDad?  |  March 26, 2012 at 3:25 pm

    Accepted into Whitney Young AC — in Tier 4 with Score of 870.

    We need to decide whether or not to say yes to Whitney Young Academic Center. Does anyone know if Whitney Young is keeping their principal next year?

  • 49. RL Julia  |  March 26, 2012 at 3:27 pm

    Don’t despair – last year the cut off for tier 4 was 831 – you might get an offer in a subsequent rounds.

  • 50. jp  |  March 26, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    5th grade was accepted to Ogden with an 845, Tier 1. We have a big decision to make.

  • 51. jp  |  March 26, 2012 at 3:31 pm

    Oops, he’s a 5th grader. : ) Would love input on Ogden, if anyone’s got any!

  • 52. cdickens  |  March 26, 2012 at 3:35 pm

    Did not get into WY AC with score of 803.8 in Tier 3. Was hoping.

  • 53. just reporting....  |  March 26, 2012 at 3:35 pm

    Live in Tier IV, got 850 for AC center for 7th grade-no offers–which is all fine, but I do think it’s wrong. Neither here not there. Child currently attends Edison We just tested for practice and to get a sense of her score.

  • 54. tb  |  March 26, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    parent of current 6th grader– tier 4, 823.4. Received an offer from Lane and from Skinner West (98/99 % reading/math classical score). i hear great things about lane tech’s academic center, but also that skinner west is a very good school. any advice?

  • 55. LTAC Mom  |  March 26, 2012 at 3:48 pm

    Congratulations, psmom! I think your son will really enjoy LTAC. @15 and 38 According to the 2nd quarter report card, class size is officially 81.

  • 56. SK  |  March 26, 2012 at 3:53 pm

    I just received the letter. My daughter was accepted to Lane. 842.9 – Tier 4.

  • 57. Lisa  |  March 26, 2012 at 3:59 pm

    how do you determine what tier you are in?

  • 58. SK  |  March 26, 2012 at 4:09 pm

    It is supposedly based on the census info. You can find the map on-line at CPS site and I belive it is also available on this site.

  • 59. wy mom  |  March 26, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    @48 I can’t imagine Dr. Kenner leaving WY!

  • 60. always questioning  |  March 26, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    @50, an 845 score for Ogden, that is a super high score. Congrats! Can I ask what elementary he attends?

  • 61. RL Julia  |  March 26, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    829.4, Tier 3 got into Whitney Young. Daughter very happy. I am surprised (and happy) as she didn’t finish the last eight questions of the exam.

  • 62. Lisa  |  March 26, 2012 at 4:18 pm

    Found it – @sk: Thanks!

  • 63. AnxiousParent  |  March 26, 2012 at 4:35 pm

    Amazing RL Julia!! Congrats!

  • 64. mmdemom  |  March 26, 2012 at 4:35 pm

    Oldest daughter accepted to Lane AC, Tier3, 823.4 score. Currently attends Lincoln IG. she wanted Whitney, so is a bit disappointed.

    Other daughter accepted to Lincoln IG, 826.4 score.

  • 65. jp  |  March 26, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    @60–he’s at Chicago Virtual Charter School. He is very happy having school at home. I’m not sure how this transition is going to work for him!

  • 66. david  |  March 26, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    tried for ogden.
    score was 726.2
    no offer,

  • 67. WY or bust  |  March 26, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    Daughter got into Whitney Young AC.

    Tier: 3
    Score: 838.5

    SHE is ecstatic, WE are relieved.

  • 68. always questioning  |  March 26, 2012 at 4:57 pm

    @65. Amazing, you, or who ever is doing the home schooling via the Virtual, should be very happy today! Congrats again!

  • 69. WYACobsessed  |  March 26, 2012 at 5:09 pm

    who in tier 4 got in? I got 833.9 and know people with 837 who didn’t get in. what about tier 3?

  • 70. WYACobsessed  |  March 26, 2012 at 5:12 pm

    Also do I have a chance for 2nd round? There is no wait list, however there is a 2nd round? I am completely obsessed with WYAC.

  • 71. Dataprovider  |  March 26, 2012 at 5:13 pm

    Tier 4, 845.5 not accepted at WYAC (first choice), accepted at Lane (second choice).

  • 72. jillwohl  |  March 26, 2012 at 5:15 pm

    I asked for last year’s scores for IG and AC. This is the response I got (after some back and forth) from CPS:


    I apologize for the delay in responding to your last email. The scores from 2011-2012 will not be posted. The scores that we post next week will be for the current application process.

    If I can be of any other service, please don’t hesitate to contact me.

    Karen Burroughs Hannsberry
    Communications Manager
    Office of Access and Enrollment
    (formerly the Office of Academic Enhancement)
    Equity q Choice q Service

  • 73. MayfairAM  |  March 26, 2012 at 5:19 pm

    tier 4 / score 772.6
    no offers

  • 74. nwsidemom  |  March 26, 2012 at 5:24 pm

    862 – Tier 4

    Accepted @ Lane for 8th grade. Very excited!

  • 75. david  |  March 26, 2012 at 5:30 pm

    any advice for parents whose kids scored high?
    which helped more, the isat/grades/entrance score?
    my daughter is only in 5th grade, so i only applied to ogden, but next year i have more choices.

  • 76. sharon brinkman  |  March 26, 2012 at 5:47 pm

    tier 3, Kenwood, score 823.

  • 77. Margie  |  March 26, 2012 at 6:09 pm

    882 – Tier 4
    Accepted at Whitney Young for 7th grade

  • 78. 8th grade  |  March 26, 2012 at 6:11 pm

    864 tier 4 did not get in to WY 8th grade

  • 79. tier4mom  |  March 26, 2012 at 6:23 pm

    835 Tier 4- accepted to Lincoln IG 6th grade program.
    @64 mmdemom – why does your daughter want to leave this program?

    I’m nervous about switching before 7th grade testing if it’s not a good fit.

  • 80. WYACobsessed  |  March 26, 2012 at 6:28 pm

    @ACmom WYAC did have a second round. I know someone who got in second round.

  • 81. WRP Mom  |  March 26, 2012 at 6:29 pm

    837 Tier 3
    Accepted at Lane for 7th grade 🙂

  • 82. WYACobsessed  |  March 26, 2012 at 6:30 pm

    @ RL Julia Really? I hope you are right.

  • 83. debating mother  |  March 26, 2012 at 6:40 pm

    My son got an 890, and was excepted to Lane, we’re debating whether to send him anywhere though.

  • 84. debating mother  |  March 26, 2012 at 6:42 pm

    “Accepted”, sorry not “excepted”, I apologize for my bad grammar.

  • 85. Just Curious  |  March 26, 2012 at 6:47 pm

    my 7th grader got into Lane AC for 8th grade with 864 and my 6th grader got into Whitney Young with 847. We are Tier 4. From previous posts, I’m guessing the Tier 4 cutoff is 846 or 847 for WY (vs. 831 last year).

  • 86. just reporting....  |  March 26, 2012 at 7:19 pm

    #85–I think the cut off for WY must be higher than 847 for Tier 4, as our child did not get in to WY with 850. I don’t think we put a second choice down…..so she got nothing, which is fine. Again we tested for practice, for information, and for options (if they were ever needed) but we are not disappointed as we are please enough with the school she now attends.

  • 87. KCK  |  March 26, 2012 at 8:22 pm

    My friend’s child got in WYAC with 790 in Tier 1.

  • 88. Kenwoodbound  |  March 26, 2012 at 8:24 pm

    Tier 3, 817.5
    Accepted into Kenwood AC our second choice. Whitney Young AC was first choice but he’ll rock it at Kenwood!

  • 89. WY Dad  |  March 26, 2012 at 8:43 pm

    Letter came today. Accepted WYAC – 811 – Tier 1.
    Sibling currently at WYAC – but I don’t think that counts for AC.
    (A friend did Kenwood AC then transferred to Whitney HS)

    The “lottery” aspect of “public” schools turns my stomach…

  • 90. Torn Mom  |  March 26, 2012 at 9:30 pm

    Tier 4
    Entering 6th
    Offer Lincoln IG
    Currently at Beaubien and LOVE it. Torn with switching. Any adivice on Beaubien vs. Lincoln IG?

  • 91. Vivian  |  March 26, 2012 at 9:31 pm

    Oh! This is so exciting! As a current 7th grader at WYAC, I’m sure all of you who were accepted will do great! I can’t wait to make some new friends!

  • 92. suburbs schmuburbs  |  March 26, 2012 at 9:54 pm

    811.5. Tier 4. No Lane. 😦

    Did I see right that the cutoff for T4 is 814?! What are the odds of that sliding downward in a second round?

  • 93. hsk  |  March 26, 2012 at 10:00 pm

    Does anyone know how the Academic Center test compares to the high school entrance exam? Would you expect a comparable score on the hs test to what was scored on the AC test? My daughter took the AC test this year (7th grade) mostly to get the test taking experience, but now I’m wondering if it’s the same kind of test, and if her results this year will predict how she’ll do next year.
    Thanks for any help!

  • 94. junior  |  March 26, 2012 at 10:28 pm

    Tests are not the same. HS entrance exam will more closely mirror ISATs. The kids scoring mid-800s on AC exam would frequently score perfect or near-perfect scores on the HS entrance exam.

  • 95. D. Ash  |  March 26, 2012 at 10:35 pm

    What is the word about Kenwood’s AC? Surprised that 742 got him in. Mostly Bs last year, but high test scores. I am looking forward to him being challenged more, but worried about him hanging out with the older kids. He is in a good magnet school now.

  • 96. mom2501  |  March 26, 2012 at 10:49 pm

    Any current Lane 7th grader parents out there who can offer some feedback on how the school year is going? My daughter was accepted for 7th grade at Lane but she is nervous about the size of the school.

  • 97. mil mom  |  March 26, 2012 at 11:00 pm

    Test score 133, total score 839.9, tier 3, in at Lane for 8th grade spot. Will likely decline the spot, kid is currently at WYAC and loves it, we applied for other options only b/c the ackie algebra was going so poorly back in Dec. that we were afraid he might not get to come back next year! It is going better now but I would still highly recommend some sort of summer pre algebra course for any incoming WYAC kid who (like mine) did not have it in 6th grade.

  • 98. Charter school Mom  |  March 26, 2012 at 11:03 pm

    My daughter got accepted into Lane AC for 8th grade. We live in tier 4 and she scored 850.3. She is beyond excited about it all. We have a long family history of graduates from Lane and she gets to be part of it all now.

  • 99. jp  |  March 26, 2012 at 11:31 pm

    How come Ogden’s school calendar seems to be different from other CPS schools? http://www.ogdenschool.org/pdf/2011-2012_CALENDAR.pdf

  • 100. Sunny  |  March 26, 2012 at 11:56 pm

    Tier 4 – Taft AC – if you got into 7th, can you please report your scores? I would love to know what the floor is for Tier 4. Thanks!

  • 101. abcde  |  March 27, 2012 at 12:06 am

    Tier 4
    Entering 7th grade
    Daughter did not get accepted to WYAC (only choice)
    Are there ever any second round offers for WYAC 7th grade?

  • 102. 2ndWYAC  |  March 27, 2012 at 12:14 am

    I am thrilled to hear that a tier 4er got in with 847. Before I believed it was 870. It is strange that 850 did not get in. I really really really want to get in to WYAC. 834.(I am RGCFAN and WYACobsessed) any chance of 2nd round? I apologize for the name confusion.

  • 103. 2ndWYAC  |  March 27, 2012 at 12:17 am

    Oops. I forgot to put the cutoff was 870.

  • 104. wy mom  |  March 27, 2012 at 3:44 am

    I believe the person who got into WYAC w/an 847 ~it’s possible their tier changed (as many did this year) and they think they are still in tier 4, but arent. From what I heard no tier 4 go into WYAC w/an 847 (their tier may have change to a tier 3).

  • 105. mmdemom  |  March 27, 2012 at 5:23 am

    @tier4mom – My daughter loves the Lincoln IG program. She is very happy and thriving. She applied for the academic center in hopes of guaranteeing herself a high school spot and liked what Whitney offered. I’m torn if she declines the Lane spot and chances it in 8th grade. Our neighborhood HS is not an option. Of course, 2 at Lincoln and 2 at another school is easier than 3 schools for our family. Ugh!

  • 106. RL Julia  |  March 27, 2012 at 7:37 am

    In regards to the test – the AC test is a 72 question timed test that is more like an IQ test in that it tests one’s ability to solve problems- than an ISAT test. It is my understanding that the test is also graded or scored by your age at the time you took the test. For instance, my daughter took the test and didn’t finish eight questions but she is young for her grade so even though she might have missed more questions, she might (I am just guessing here)have a similar score to someone who answered more questions correctly but who is six to nine months older. It is my understanding that this is the case with how all the SEES tests are graded – or at least some of them.

  • 107. 2nd round  |  March 27, 2012 at 7:51 am

    @abcde yes actually there are quite a few second and possible third round offers. Many parents and children love their current schools. Lots of people say that WYAC has no 2nd round, I know they do, because I know people who got in 2nd round

  • 108. LTAC Mom  |  March 27, 2012 at 8:19 am

    @54 tb I think it depends on what kind of your experience your child is looking for and is ready for. LTAC is more of a high school experience. While Math and English comparable to what DD recieved at her former RGC, history and science curriculums have had far greater depth and scope. DD is quickly becoming conversational in a foreign language and has greater opportunites art and music than she would have had otherwise, in part, because largre school have more resources at their disposal. However, as the kids largely take classes together, they are definitely their own community in this larger setting. Again, I think it mostly comes down to what your DC is looking for.

  • 109. LTAC Mom  |  March 27, 2012 at 8:36 am

    @96 I’m currently the parent of a 7th grader. The LTAC kids take most of their classes together and most of those classes are held in the same wing of the school. They have their own community, then, within this larger school, so I don’t think it feels as large to them as it is. DD learned her wayaround fairly quickly–first her daily route, then around the larger school. The kids know each other pretty well and really are a nice group of kids. The teachers are friendly and approachable– and have reached out to engage the kids. There are also lots of clubs and sports that meet regularly and give the kids more opportunities to get to know each other.

    Also, there’s a Meet and Greet scheduled for new students on Tuesday, April 10th. Don’t know if you recieved notice of it yet but our kids were asked to sign-up to attend. Current LTAC students will be there to meet new ones.

    The picture I first had of LTAC was that of introducing a new goldfish to a fish tank– when you first put the fish in a baggy into a tank. The fish is the environment and gets used to it before being released to swim freely. I still think that’s a good picture for LTAC. It helps make a nice transition into a larger environment.

    Hope that helps!

  • 110. Johnny'sDad  |  March 27, 2012 at 10:31 am

    My son was accepted to Taft AC with 793.7 in tier 4.
    But there is a problem with his Social Studies grade; his grade was an A but they have it as a B. I’ve learned about it just 10 minutes ago when I called CPS.
    Does anyone knows if 818.7 in tier 4 is enough to get to Lane?

  • 111. Sunny  |  March 27, 2012 at 11:15 am

    #110 Johnny’s Dad – Thanks for reporting Tier 4 Taft AC acceptance score. Anyone else in Tier 4 with a lower score that was accepted into Taft AC?

  • 112. mom in the city  |  March 27, 2012 at 11:21 am

    #110~I would call the 773/553-2060 and tell them that his grade is actually 818.4~they will get in touch w/lane who will call you. I think you have a shot at Lane. Good luck

  • 113. suburbs schmuburbs  |  March 27, 2012 at 11:22 am

    Sunny, Johnny’s Dad and others:

    I think the current floors are shown in a link way up in Post #3.

    Taft’s is probably going to go down; they had multiple selection rounds last year as people turned down offers.

  • 114. Sunny  |  March 27, 2012 at 12:16 pm

    #113 the link in #3 is for those children currently in 7th grade. I am looking for the Taft Tier 4 cutoff scores for the current 6th graders going into the 7th greade AC at Taft.

    Any Taft AC Tier 4 people out there who were accepted?

  • 115. suburbs schmuburbs  |  March 27, 2012 at 12:37 pm

    My bad, Sunny.

    I know of a Tier 4 785 who got in to Taft.

  • 116. suburbs schmuburbs  |  March 27, 2012 at 12:38 pm

    … and a Tier 4 750(?) who did not.

  • 117. Jill  |  March 27, 2012 at 12:44 pm

    My son was accepted to the Taft AC program with a score of 855.

  • 118. theresalwaysnextyear  |  March 27, 2012 at 1:12 pm

    Can anyone provide any insight on the gifted test used for kids applying to Ogden’s IB program? My son scored 91% reading and 98% math, but his gifted test score was shockingly low at 109. He’s an 11-year-old origami and logic puzzle whiz and I thought that test had a lot of those components. I see lots of commentary on the kindergarten and lower elementary school gifted test, but haven’t seen much on what the older kids are tested on. Is there any way older kids can prep for this test?

  • 119. Joriesma  |  March 27, 2012 at 1:23 pm

    786.8 Accepted to Kenwood. I’m ok with that.

  • 120. Sloop8  |  March 27, 2012 at 1:35 pm

    Can anyone explain how to convert Stanford test results to ISAT scores? I am trying to figure out how the test figured into the scoring rubric linked to in #3 above.

  • 121. projectconnection  |  March 27, 2012 at 1:38 pm

    @Sunny. Taft offer received for 7th grade (current 6th grader). Score of 790.3.
    Question for others: Lane was our #1 choice. Taft was #2. Any chance of getting into Lane in second round if we decline Taft?
    What does second round consist of? Just based on others’ rejections, or is there more to it?

  • 122. LaneWanted  |  March 27, 2012 at 1:40 pm

    @Sunny. Taft offer received for 7th grade (current 6th grader). Score of 790.3. Tier 4.
    Question for others: Lane was our #1 choice. Taft was #2. Any chance of getting into Lane in second round if we decline Taft?
    What does second round consist of? Just based on others’ rejections, or is there more to it?

  • 123. Sunny  |  March 27, 2012 at 1:50 pm

    Any other Taft Tier 4 Acceptances?

    So far the lowest Taft Tier 4 Acceptance is at 785. That is a 35 point jump from last year for Tier 4.

    Hoping there are some acceptances at slightly below 750??

  • 124. AC Mom  |  March 27, 2012 at 2:05 pm

    Taft had many many rounds last year so I wouldn’t worry. Last year a score of 750 got you a call in late May/ early June. My kid was one of those late offers and she is doing just fine. After all, her score would have gotten her in any other round for any other tier.

  • 125. wannago2whitney  |  March 27, 2012 at 5:16 pm

    I’m in Tier 3 and I didn’t get into Whitney which I put first and Lane which I put second. My best friend is going to Lane AC, though 😦

  • 126. will die if no WYAC  |  March 27, 2012 at 5:42 pm

    tier 4. 833.9. Friends with 860 and 888 got in. Really sad. Any chance of 2nd round?

  • 127. WY Dad  |  March 27, 2012 at 6:45 pm

    Yes – there are additional rounds – I think for all of the schools. This year, the first round has to accept or decline before 4/13/12. I know of a few who declined WYAC in previous years (yes, there are other options) and their spots then opened up for others who got letters in April or May. I assume it’s the same for all of the AC programs.

  • 128. wannago2whitney  |  March 27, 2012 at 8:14 pm

    So I could still be able to get into WYAC if they put me in a second round? I got a horrible 760 out of 900 so I doubt I would even be considered ;(

  • 129. LP Dad  |  March 27, 2012 at 8:32 pm

    6th grade
    811 score, tier 4
    Received offer to Ogden IG and Skinner West;

    Ogden was 2nd choice after LP IG. Any thoughts on Ogden versus Skinner?

    Also if we accept Skinner and turn down Ogden, do we get a chance of being offered Lincoln IG in later rounds?

  • 130. WHY!?! WYAC!!!  |  March 27, 2012 at 8:42 pm

    okay. got a 821 in tier 4 and desperately want WYAC. could i have a shot in the second round? kinda nervous about giving up seat at Lane. anyone with input……?

  • 131. LTAC?  |  March 27, 2012 at 8:56 pm

    I got accepted to LTAC for 8th, currently at an RGC. Haven’t decided what to do yet..

  • 132. cpsobsessed  |  March 27, 2012 at 9:41 pm

    @130: I think it is a little risky to turn down Lane. It depends where you are now and how that will be if you turn down Lane but don’t get WY. If you think 7-8th grade will be fine where you are now (and will give you a good shot at an SE high school) then turn down Lane. If not, I would probably advise to stick with Lane. I know WY may have more rounds, but it’s hard to say how low they will go for Tier 4 or how many kids will turn down those spots.
    Good luck and keep us posted! 821 is a great score.

  • 133. cpsobsessed  |  March 27, 2012 at 9:42 pm

    @128, what is your Tier?

  • 134. WHY!?! WYAC!!!  |  March 27, 2012 at 11:05 pm

    thanks cpsobsessed. i appreciate the advice. will keep you posted.

  • 135. WRP Mom  |  March 28, 2012 at 7:08 am

    118, gifted testing for Ogden’s program is very much like that for the Academic Centers. I guess you first have to try to identify where your child may have lost points. If he hasn’t taken the test before or not for a really long time, there could be test anxiety. There’s also the time management issue. Did he finish or nearly finish the test? If he left a lot blank, that could have affected his score. Selective Prep offers test prep which seems to help with test-taking skills like these.

    If you think the issue is some of the content in the test itself, that’s a little different. CPS likes to keep their tests a deep dark secret, but my 6th grader, fresh out of the AC test, said while bubbling in their info they filled in “OLSAT form F”. I looked up info on the OLSAT and form F is what exactly the test given for 6th graders. OLSAT stands for Otis Lennon School Ability Test and there are workbooks that can be purchased online. I think I also saw a link on this blog a long time ago to a company which you can get the workbooks from.

  • 136. I have way to many names  |  March 28, 2012 at 7:36 am

    Does 833.9 tier 4 have a chance for WYAC 2nd round? (this is WYAC or die, RGCFAN, and WYACOBSESSED) how far does the minimum go down? I now guess that the cutoff is 855 which would mean I’m 21.1 points below the minimum. Any chance?

  • 137. I have way too many names  |  March 28, 2012 at 7:44 am

    @just reporting….. Maybe cps messed it up. As you just took the test for the score then maybe it doesn’t matter, but you could talk to cps about that.

  • 138. cpsobsessed  |  March 28, 2012 at 7:56 am

    @many names – call the wyac coordinator to ask about a second round and see if they can advise you. It may help you decide…

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  • 139. AnxiousParent  |  March 28, 2012 at 9:46 am

    Tier 2

  • 140. Cutoff scores  |  March 28, 2012 at 10:02 am

    Anyone know whether they are going to post the cutoff scores for the academic center before April 13? I want to see what the difference in scores is between Kenwood and Lindblom. Looks like last year they weren’t too different. Kenwood was my first choice as I am a Hyde Parker, but my son is now asking about Lindblom. I would be willing to turn down the Kenwood spot if I could be relatively assured he would be in contention for Lindblom. We are Tier 3 so the bar could be kind of high.

  • 141. Sunny  |  March 28, 2012 at 10:16 am

    #140 CPS told me yesterday morning that they would post the Cutoff scores this week.

    We are considering Kenwood, but I don’t know much about it. We ranked it low since it is far. What great things have you heard about it? What not so great things? Why Lindblom?

    Thanks for sharing your perspective.

  • 142. Cutoff scores  |  March 28, 2012 at 10:32 am

    I have heard very good things about Kenwood and Lindblom. My good friend has a son who went through Kenwood’s AC and, despite an offer from Jones, wants to stay put. He absolutely loves it there. I guess the only thing that is making me question the choice of Kenwood is that the high school has both magnet/accelerated and neighborhood kids. Lindblom’s high school has all selective enrollment. I am trying to figure out if having an entirely selective enrollment high school means that the students are more serious. My kid looks up to older kids and, to the degree it is possible, I want the older kids he is around to be positive. Then again, I hear that the AC coordinator at Kenwood is fabulous and does her best to protect the younger students. Most likely we will go with Kenwood.

  • 143. PP  |  March 28, 2012 at 10:43 am

    Tier 4, 840 – got into 7th grade at Lane (first choice). Tough decision if we should leave gifted at Thorp.

  • 144. AnxiousParent  |  March 28, 2012 at 12:00 pm

    Lindblom has jumped 64 ranks and landed at No. 43 statewide for its junior-year reading and math scores in 2011. 7th and 8th take the school bus. There is a shuttle for 9th through 12th for $10 per year. I loved the environment when we visited. The students raved about how helpful the teachers are and that they are in the building at 7am if you need help.

    Kenwood has a relationship with UofC. Usually, the AC students that continue through the high school are taking classes at UofC their Junior and Senior year.

  • 145. PTA Southside Mom  |  March 28, 2012 at 12:07 pm

    The more I look at my child’s low test score, the more I am convinced that she skipped a line in the test and skewed all of the answers. I saw on the cps website where you can appeal. I’m going to take a shot at having them review her test. Wish me luck.

  • 146. Cutoff scores  |  March 28, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    That is the great thing about every academic center. Junior high students can take high school classes, which means by the time they get to high school they are in good shape.

  • 147. Sunny  |  March 28, 2012 at 1:01 pm

    Thanks for the feedback on Kenwood and Lindbloom. Unfortunately, Lindbloom does not provide transporation if you don’t live in a certain area – they are trying to change this – but that is the most recent information at this time.

    Does anyone know when the Kenwood open house is? Or can you just tour it if you are accepted? Left 2 messages today and have not heard back. Strange that no one answers their phone – have not had this experience with other schools. You call and press a number and someone eventually answers or calls you right back.

  • 148. Isn't This Fun  |  March 28, 2012 at 1:27 pm

    Accepted at Taft Tier 4 , score 811. Interested in the Lane cut.

  • 149. AnxiousParent  |  March 28, 2012 at 1:39 pm

    Cutoff scores have been posted.

  • 150. psmom  |  March 28, 2012 at 1:47 pm

    Here is the link.


    CPS admitted 136 to Lane and to Young. Not sure how this would impact future rounds.

  • 151. Chicago School GPS  |  March 28, 2012 at 2:08 pm

    FYI, the cut-off scores in the link that #150 posted are for incoming 7th graders to these AC programs.

    Since Lane is the only school with an 8th grade entry this year and it’s small (rumor has it from 30-50 kids), they may not post cut-off scores for Lane’s 8th grade AC but I will try to find out.

  • 152. WY or bust  |  March 28, 2012 at 2:17 pm

    Parents please make sure you and your child are considerate of friends and peers who did not get into the school of their choice or any school at all. The children all worked hard and we as parents supported them in the hopes of making into a better opportunity. This has been an emotional process and now is not the time for the kids or parents to do the proverbial “touch down” dance at school. I know the process is not perfect but until it changes it is the best we have.

  • 153. Kenwoodbound  |  March 28, 2012 at 2:51 pm

    @147, Hello Sunny. Kenwood Open House is April 10. I don’t have the time yet, just the date. Will post when I find out the time.

  • 154. RL Julia  |  March 28, 2012 at 3:25 pm

    152 – I agree -however, it goes both ways. This is the time to practice manners on all fronts. Don’t brag or be obnoxious if you got in on the other hand, if your friend got in somewhere and you didn’t, don’t tell them that they didn’t deserve it, didn’t work as hard as you did or other mean sentiments.Unfortunately these events end up being a bit of a feel bad for everyone. Every kid who didn’t get in knows someone who didn’t and vice versa. Share the joy, share the sorrow.

  • 155. Kenwoodbound  |  March 28, 2012 at 4:36 pm

    Kenwood AC Open House is April 10 at 6:00 pm.

  • 156. CCL  |  March 28, 2012 at 4:48 pm

    @ WHY!?WYAC?!?! In my opinion you may want to look into the commute. Just a suggestion. (maybe not so helpful).

  • 157. Obi1  |  March 28, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    Hi everyone, I’m new here. Parent of a 6th grader, we applied for both Lane and Taft. Accepted to Lane. I’m trying to wrap my head around the whole near future scenario.

    If we accept Lane, it appears she would not need to be tested again for high school at Lane, correct?

    How is Taft’s IB program? We are closer to Taft and are debating whether we should decline Lane and hope to get selected at Taft. The IB program looks like it is for 3rd and 4th year HS? So 1st and 2nd year HS, our daughter would take the regular classes?

    Does accepting either schools prohibit her from trying for another SE high school later? For example, Northside or Whitney Young, when she is in 8th grade?

    Also, @#150 link, how do I interpret the “Rank” row in the table? Are those the students accepted regardless of Tiers?

  • 158. Chicago School GPS  |  March 28, 2012 at 6:36 pm

    @157- Once you test into an Academic Center, you are automatically in their high school track and are taking HS credit courses starting your entry year. No need for further testing if you decide to stay.

    BUT, you are also not obligated to stay at that high school and can certainly apply to any other SEHSs during your child’s 8th grade year. If you opt to test for other SEHSs, then their 7th grade final grades and ISAT scores are used, along with the 8th grade SEHS entrance exam.

    The “rank” scores are for the 30% of seats awarded to the highest scorers (regardless of Tier), and the remaining 70% are divided (typically equally, but apparently not according to the cutoff data) among the 4 tiers. The chart shows how many seats were awarded from each category.

    With regard to Taft vs. Lane, there are some parents and students at both those schools who can weigh in on the merits of either, but it appears that last year, Lane did not do much of a subsequent round of offers whereas Taft did go a few rounds to fill their seats.

    FYI, Lane’s Academic Center Information Session is Tuesday, April 10 from 5-7PM in the auditorium. Decisions for all Academic Center first round offers are due by April 13.

  • 159. CCL  |  March 28, 2012 at 6:52 pm

    YAYAYAYAYAYAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The cutoff for WYAC is 846! YAYAY I got 834!!!!! THiS IS AMAZING!

  • 160. CCL  |  March 28, 2012 at 6:52 pm

    wait… do I have a chance? 2nd round?

  • 161. cpsobsessed  |  March 28, 2012 at 8:20 pm

    @ccl: I’d still call wyac to see if they think they’ll do a second round. I’ve heard that they will not. I’d hate to see you turn something down and they don’t do the 2nd round. That is a great! score. But just be cautious….

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  • 162. Obi1  |  March 28, 2012 at 8:46 pm


    Thank you very much for the answers to my questions, especially the “Rank” information.

    Also, do you or anyone know if information exists for number of applications for each school for the AC (7th and 8th grades)?

    I have seen a figure of ~15,000 applications and ~3,000 seats, somewhere in an article, but that was for SEHS, I believe.

    I’m curious if such figures exist for ACs.

  • 163. junior  |  March 28, 2012 at 9:44 pm

    @157 Ob1wan

    Going into an AC with the intent of applying to a different SEHS in eighth grade IMO is not a wise strategy. 7th grade at an AC is very rigorous, and for many students who are used to straight A’s, they may very well get their first B’s and even C’s — making admission to another SEHS a risky proposition.

  • 164. cpsobsessed  |  March 28, 2012 at 10:13 pm

    @junior (and others); I was just discussing this with another mom. Is it harder in an AC than in 7-8th grade of a gifted or classical program?

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  • 165. Obi1  |  March 28, 2012 at 11:12 pm

    @163 junior

    Thanks for the tip, I know it is not a good strategy, I was curious as to the options we have in case she wants to try for another SEHS later. Of course, who knows what the cut off will be in a couple years??

  • 166. junior  |  March 28, 2012 at 11:19 pm

    @164 cpso

    Don’t know about the rigor of various gifted programs, but have heard of enough kids coming from gifted programs who have struggled with the adjustment to AC work to make it a definite concern. I can’t say for all AC programs, but at WYAC — as tough as it is to get in — you’d think that almost all students were straight A going in (and the lion’s share come from gifted programs). Yet, you hear of a good percentage of kids who are not making top grades.

    I remember a couple of years ago someone stated that they thought Taft’s AC was intentionally downgrading their seventh graders so that they would have to stay at Taft for high school — there was no evidence offered for intentional sabotaging of grades, but it may suggest that the straight-A kids that go to Taft AC face a tougher than expected grading curve.

    My suggestion is that if you enroll in an AC program, make sure you’re comfortable with a six-year commitment to that school.

  • 167. Ackie parent  |  March 28, 2012 at 11:31 pm

    It is not harder for a kid to get into at SEHS from an AC. Just keep in mind that CPS looks at grades only not the class or rigor of the class. Hince the grade a kid gets in an HS algebra AC class,( which is what 7th graders in most AC take) is not weighted any different than a grade in a 7th grade elementary math class. A “B” is a “B”. So I agree with junior make sure you are comfortable with your kid staying 6 years at a school.

  • 168. jp  |  March 28, 2012 at 11:39 pm

    We went to the open house at Ogden last night, and were told that in addition to the 6.5 hour school day (or maybe 7.5 hours if it is extended), plus the bus ride back and forth, my sixth grader should expect one to two hours of homework each night. My son started crying when he heard that. Does this sound like a normal workload for sixth graders at all schools?

  • 169. cpsobsessed  |  March 28, 2012 at 11:43 pm

    @jp: one hour seems normal. Heck, if my son does his assigned homework of 30 min reading plus a math worksheet that can be an easy hour for 3rd grade. I personally feel that 2 hours is too much ESPECIALLY if a kid has a 7.5 hour day. With the bus, there will be very little down time.
    I just can’t see embracing that.
    Did he actually cry?
    This is why I’m pushing for neighborhood high schools. I can’t see my son doing 2 hours a night in 6th grade and 3plus in high school. He’d run away from home.

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  • 170. always questioning  |  March 29, 2012 at 7:18 am

    we were told at Lincoln’s IG open house to expect 2-3 hours of homework per night. And I talked with parents of kids currently enrolled there, 1 hour would be the minimum, 2 is normal and 3 does happen. Of course, all based on how a kid does homework too. Lots to consider with your own child. Mine would melt.

  • 171. RL Julia  |  March 29, 2012 at 7:32 am

    Experience with Taft AC was that in 7th grade, the homework load was pretty reasonable – not overwhelming. 8th grade was when the homework started ratcheting up. Taft doesn’t enroll their 7th graders into high school classes though – they start in 8th grade which leads to a more balanced (I believe) experience. However, I would go in prepared to work – and work hard.

    Have heard nightmares about the amount of work required at WYAC but I think it is important to point out that sometimes what makes homework take so long is the child’s relative inexperience in organizing and doing the homework. After a while, you get better at organizing your time – this type of maturity should be taken into consideration when making a school choice.

  • 172. CC  |  March 29, 2012 at 7:42 am

    Cpsobsessed i didnt try for anywhere else. We were a running late and didn’t do any research. We might have tried for LTAC but I’m southside. ?

  • 173. suburbs schmuburbs  |  March 29, 2012 at 7:43 am

    Re: #166 and others — My understanding is also that an “A” at an AC is no different than an “A” somewhere else. However, I haven’t heard that Taft makes it hard for their kids to go elsewhere. To the contrary — they put one-third of their grads into the Big Four. That must count for something… though it’s debatable as to what.


  • 174. jp  |  March 29, 2012 at 10:05 am

    CPSObsessed–yes, he really did cry. I’m the CVCS parent from earlier in the thread. Currently, he is doing around 5-5.5 hours of school work a day–and there’s no commute, since we are at home. He has plenty of time to play with Legos! I am very torn about this–I’m pretty sure that I don’t want to home school him in high school, so I love that he would be set for Ogden. It looks like a nice program and is a smaller school than some of the other high schools. On the other hand, I am not sure he ready for the transition at this time. There is a reason that he is at CVCS, and not at the magnet school I pulled him out of two years ago.

  • 175. ms  |  March 29, 2012 at 10:39 am

    Chiming on on the homework — I have a daughter in 8th grade WYAC and I believe that people exaggerate a little about how much homework the kids have to do. I am not saying that it is a light load, but it is not hours and hours every day. She definitely has time to hang out with friends and does a fair amount of afterschool activities.
    That said, Ogden may be different (and I am thinking of sending my 6th grader there this year from Murray, where things have taken a big turn for the worse, something that has not been covered by this blog…).

  • 176. RL Julia  |  March 29, 2012 at 10:44 am

    jp – for what its worth, my kids have had 1-2 hours of homework and they occassionally cry (or basically hyperventilate) about it too. Mostly because the amount of work seems/ed overwhelming. Once they break it down into more manageable chunks it seems less daunting. Welcome to one of the many variations of middle school behavior! Growing up is really hard work! 5-8th graders (depending on their development schedules) are very emotional bunch.

  • 177. AC Mom  |  March 29, 2012 at 11:29 am

    This year the Taft 7th graders have 2 classes with high school credits, the computer class and honors environmental science. I think this is a change from previous years.

    Some of the teachers also appear to be generous with grades (though my kid right now has to bring hers up if she wants to even apply to SEHS next year). I honestly think that getting the ‘A’s is easier at Taft than if she had stayed at her elem school.

    One thing to keep in mind about all AC’s is that they are on the high school grading system and ‘final’ grades are reported at the semester and not the quarter mark. So if you have a low ‘B’ first quarter you don’t get a clean slate second quarter to bring it up to an ‘A’. Everything in cumulative until the final grade. I think this is why my kid is slacking – she thinks she will have time to bring them up.

    I also want to reiterate what a fan I am of AC’s in general not only academically but socially and developmentally for many of these kids. The middle school format requires organization, discipline, and social navigation that you don’t necessarily see at elem schools. The simple fact that she has a 40 minute lunch period where she can go to the cafeteria, library, resource room etc without the room is amazing. It is drastically different from her elem school where she had a 20 minute lunch in the classroom and the children were constantly yelled out for misbehaving.

  • 178. junior  |  March 29, 2012 at 11:54 am

    I don’t know if this holds for all ACs, but at WYAC, if a child fails to turn in a homework assignment on the day it is due, it counts as a zero. Being late on just one assignment makes it very hard to get your numerical average up above the 93 point threshhold required for an A. This is where it gets challenging for kids — not necessarily the level of material, but the level of organization required to manage their workload without room for error.

  • 179. RL Julia  |  March 29, 2012 at 12:08 pm

    It doesn’t hold at Taft – but I got something from WYAC saying this. Was told by another parent that it was not a hard and fast rule – some teacher’s accepted late work and some did not.

    AC Mom – I totally agree – one of the things that I like about the AC model is that it stresses that the kids take control over their own schedules and discipline a bit more than they would have in an elementary school setting. This painful process has to begin at some point.

  • 180. cpskool  |  March 29, 2012 at 1:21 pm

    @143 Hi congrats on getting Lane AC. My son left Thorp gifted for Taft AC. Best decision for him, ever. It was not an overwhelming adjustment for academics at all. He easily transition to the HS setting. Only downfall, I believe they grow up at little too fast! The HS influences can be good and bad. Instead of staying with the same 30 kids, he knew since Kindergarden, he really developed socially and became more independent and responsible. Now he is going to Jones College prep, prepared with credits and no anxiety.

  • 181. Notme8  |  March 29, 2012 at 1:24 pm

    When my child was in 8th grade at the CPS magnet school, students were constantly told late homework would not be accepted = zero. After Christmas, teachers backed down and let the kids hand in late work for 10 points less. For average slacker, this was not a good thing. Completely undermined the zero tolerance of most high schools.

  • 182. WY Parent  |  March 29, 2012 at 1:55 pm

    Parents who are concerned about homework levels at any grade should think of all of this as preparation for college. When our kids are enrolled in Yale, Harvard, Spelman, or Morehouse, no one will care if they cry about their homework load–in addition to the student government activities, sorority/fraternity responsibilities, athletics, yearbook, etc. Tell your kid to “man-up” and deal. You are preparing him for the rigors of life. Those of us on the obsessed website are obviously obsessed about preparing our kids for the best. Help them get organized. Teach them time management skills. Work is not going away. I need to start a blog called IVY LEAGUE/TOP HBCU OBSESSED. Friends of mine who attended WY were well prepared. College was a breeze for them while the rest of our heads were spinning. They are successful attorneys, judges, doctors, entrepreneurs, CEOs, etc.

  • 183. PH mom  |  March 29, 2012 at 2:37 pm

    Tier 4- My daughter got in WYAC – 888/900. Currently in Skinner West. She made me proud 🙂 We did not put in a second choice in the application.

  • 184. Mart  |  March 29, 2012 at 3:07 pm

    175, please tell about Murray.

  • 185. averagemom  |  March 29, 2012 at 3:47 pm

    I’ve graduated one from Ogden IG, and have one still there. 1-2 hours of homework sounds about right. It will be higher during science fair and history fair.
    One option is to move to Ogden’s area for 8th grade, If you go to Ogden for 8th grade, you’re guaranteed a spot in the high school. I know several families that have chosed to live in 1 bedroom apartments for years so they can go to Ogden. (My next door neighbor family of 3 were in a studio) Once you’re done with 8th grade, you can move anywhere and stay in the high school.

  • 186. ms  |  March 29, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    @Mart–the problems at Murray just keep piling up and the school appears to have lost his footing. The principal is a very weak leader, it’s not clear where he is going and it’s difficult to understand his decision making — yet the LSC voted to keep him for the next four years; the school has expanded from K-6 to K-8 and it seems that it has bitten off more than it can chew so the middle school department is very messy, especially 5th and 6th grade; kids are leaving in droves as middle school approaches — this year’s class is rumored to lose 10 outgoing 5th graders because the 5th grade was so messy parents are not willing to continue on; the school is weathering a pretty widely publicized scandal in which a much-loved teacher discussed the n-word with his class and uttered it in the process and was then suspended without any discussion with the principal — just a letter saying he was suspended — an indication that there is very little discourse among the educators; there are quite a few problems with discipline and disruptive behavior among the children with no real indication that there is a plan to deal with the issues…the list goes on. The primary department is still in good shape, though it seems that several of those teachers are starting to coop up in their own classroom because the atmosphere at the school has become so acidic, so the whole school is beginning to suffer.
    That all said, parents are starting to notice that their school may not be what they thought it was when they were excited to receive their letter of acceptance, and a little of an uprising seems to be in the making. It may be too late for this year’s 5th grade (as I mentioned, my child is begging to leave and I am ready to give in, though three years ago when my older daughter made the same decision between Ogden and Murray we were glad that she chose Murray for 6th grade), but not too late to save the school.

  • 187. jp  |  March 29, 2012 at 5:13 pm

    WY Parent, my soon-to-be 6th grader is not ready for his first year at Harvard. Kids need time to develop and mature, and different kids mature at different rates. What he is capable of now is much different than what he was capable of in first grade. To burden him with a workload that he is not ready to shoulder will just create bigger problems later. Sometimes I think the most difficult job of parenting is knowing when to give a kid a nudge forward, and when to hang back and wait until the child is ready.

  • 188. jp  |  March 29, 2012 at 5:39 pm

    Averagemom, thank you for your information. It really helps to know that the workload might increase around project time, but can be planned for.

  • 189. Sunny  |  March 30, 2012 at 8:56 am

    #182 & 187 There was a Fall Tribune article that WY students were getting Cs in significant numbers in Freshman year in college (compared these students to New Trier and other top schools Freshman grades). They just tracked Freshman year. So no guarantees that they will be stellar academic stars after WY.

  • 190. RL Julia  |  March 30, 2012 at 9:29 am

    Sorry to see that Taft’s AC scores entrance scores dropped this year – no doubt because it is a distant north side third choice to Whitney and Lane. Its a great program – I really liked how they balanced acceleration with what I see to be more age appropriate behavior expectations (at least judging by the packet of rules we recently received frmo WYAC) – don’t get me wrong – they do love their rules – but I feel like Taft really delivers a good education without stressing kids out too much. I also like that it give the kids an arts option, a language option and computers. At WYAC at least, my daughter has to choose ONE between all of these. Hard for a kid who would like to take a language AND an art.

  • 191. CPSappalled  |  March 30, 2012 at 11:43 am

    Help! I need more information about Taft’s AC program. My child really wanted to go to Lane’s AC program, but didn’t have the scores this year. We are tier 3 and my child’s score is 720, so we got an acceptance to Taft. Currently at a private school that we can’t afford, but have heard so many mixed things about Taft’s program and specifically emotional and academic support for 7th graders. I’m tempted to stay put so we have a better chance for applying to HS. Does anyone have any recommendations?

  • 192. cpsobsessed  |  March 30, 2012 at 11:45 am

    I’d read the posts above if you haven’t done so….

    Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

  • 193. RL Julia  |  March 30, 2012 at 12:08 pm

    The Taft AC program sent more kids to the SEHS’s than any other school this year. I felt that the program was a really nice mix of academic rigor and age appropriate behavoral expectations. They don’t play around with discipline so if you child is particularly impulsive or immature, there will be repercussions – but I imagine that’s all the AC’s. I think that help is given to those who ask for it – but they do have high expectations for the kids in the center. The teachers are generally responsive and very helpful. However, all kids at the AC will be expected to manage their work, ask for help, turn stuff in on time and keep on top of their assignments with out tons of prompting. So to conclude – if you child is academcially accelerated and socially and emotionally mature, there will be no problems and they’ll get a lot out of the program. If they are not particularly well organized and don’t like asking for help/talking to teachers, there will be a learning curve.

    The AC kids are in their own part of the building so you don’t have to worry about undue exposure to older kids and academically the program is great. The counselor, Ms Eischen is really great as well. Its probably worth calling her to see if Taft is a good fit for your kid.

    Oh yeah – there is a dress code and it is very much enforced.

  • 194. CPSappalled  |  March 30, 2012 at 12:56 pm

    I have read all the posts here and there isn’t that much about Taft. I recall an earlier post this fall that was alarming about Taft, implying that they are setting up the AC kids for failure, and I want more balanced feedback from other parents. Did I read the stats correctly that stated that only 1/3 of Taft AC kids got into SE high schools? That is much lower than I would have expected, compared to the school my child currently attends. My child is very intelligent and likes to be challenged academically, but struggles with organization. We don’t want to make the wrong choice and end up jeopardizing high school options.

  • 195. RL Julia  |  March 30, 2012 at 1:43 pm

    I haven’t felt like Taft (specifically) AC set my kid up for failure. As for the 1/3 of the AC kids getting into SEHS’s – well since their 8th grade class is around 140, that’s not such a bad number. While not every kid from Taft AC is going to a SEHS, almost all of them are going to some sort of test in high school program. There are no guarantees in the SEHS lottery

    My perception is that youth who do better at ALL the AC’s (across the board) are pretty well-organized (in fact I just got a handout from WYAC stating as much and suggesting that if you weren’t “emotionally mature”, you might consider waiting until 9th grade to come to Whitney – interesting, I believe the words they used were “organized, focused and self-directed”). I know from hearing from friends wtih kids at other magnets and test-in schools, that after a certain grade (5th or 6th it seems), if you child is disorganized and doesn’t have an IEP stating as much, accomodation on the disorganization is really hit or miss (mostly miss it seems)- it doesn’t matter if how smart you are, teachers expect you to turn in your homework etc… and if you don’t there are penalties. I know more than one kid who went from A and B’s to C and D’s over this.

  • 196. Obi1  |  March 30, 2012 at 2:03 pm

    @194 CPSappalled

    From the info I gathered here, it’s been stated in general, AC programs have more expectations from the children than in a regular elementary school. So it does make sense it “may” be harder for the child to get the same As in an AC versus regular school. Which in turn “may” make it harder to score higher for SEHSs.

    I don’t know about the stat of 1/3 Taft AC > SEHS but there could be other factors, like what I said above (AC workload vs regular Elementary), plus perhaps some of the Taft AC kids decide to stay because of proximity to home or comfort with friends, the school and system there. I believe proximity can be a large factor in not leaving for an SEHS. I do know this for a fact, Taft is closer to us and when our child came back discussing where each classmate applied or was going to for 7th grade, some said they did not make it to Lane, but many said that they did not apply to Lane because their parents thought it was too far. Taft does have an IB but I don’t know anything about that program.

    Curious as to the percentage of your school making the cut for SEHSs. You sound disappointed in the number your posted and I don’t whether the stat is correct or not but it looks pretty good for what it is. 1/3 from an AC program, sounds like a lot to me. Also, let’s say the 1/3 Taft AC to SEHS is true, is that 1/3 of the total of Taft AC students (example 1/3 of 100 students = 33 students) but what if only 50 students applied (33 out of 50 = 66%)? Either way, I think it’s pretty good. Am I wrong in my thinking?

    @193 RL Julia

    When you said “The Taft AC program sent more kids to the SEHS’s than any other school this year.” Was it compared to all other elementary schools or only AC schools in general?

  • 197. suburbs schmuburbs  |  March 30, 2012 at 2:35 pm

    @193, 194, 196: The stat regarding Taft is from a WBEZ story (see link at #173.) It’s an absolute value, and it’s compared to all elementary schools in the city. I’m with Obi1; I’d be very surprised if a neighborhood school is beating that percentage of SEHS-bound grads.

  • 198. cpsmama  |  March 30, 2012 at 2:41 pm

    In addition to the 1/3 who leave Taft AC for SEHS, a handful go to LPHS & approx 30-40Taft AC kids stay at Taft for IB program each year. Some of the weaker Taft AC students stay at Taft in it’s honors program or its regular HS program and they are happy to have that option b/c some have no other options.

    In my experience, Taft’s principal (retiring this year) actively discourages AC students from transferring to Lane- which made my kid want to leave even more.

    Taft AC is a solid and fairly diverse program with many excellent teachers. My child loved all of the Taft AC teachers. And it was fairly easy to get As & Bs with a little effort.

    The HS is less diverse and full of typical neighborhood HS problems, gangs, drugs, fights,smoking and drop outs.

  • 199. RL Julia  |  March 30, 2012 at 3:08 pm

    @196- I was referring to Taft in comparison to other elementary programs – not the other AC;s – I was really just thinking about the SEHS “feeder school” list that was posted here a while back. I have no idea how many kids applied to the SEHS’s but I’d guess it was at least 50%.

    Looked into the Taft IB program and really, really liked it. It was small and seemed well run. As for the high school – a friend of mine connected to Whitney Young just sheepishly told my about some drug issues they are apparently having at WY -with the high school kids. I assume that the AC kids were protected from this.

  • 200. No one is immune  |  March 30, 2012 at 5:14 pm

    @196 RL Julia : Unfortunately it is not possible to “protect” any kids from drug issues. Surely, you know that it is not just WY. There are kids at Northside, Payton, & Jones who are getting high and drinking. (I know children at all three). Being academically advanced does not shield you from the dark sides of life. I don’t know why your friend “sheepishly” told you about the reported drug use. The administration sent out a school-wide email. As a WY parent I applaud the fact that the issue was pulled into the light so that the parents could be mindful and watchful. These are scary times. There are so many traps waiting to snare our babies. All we can do is steer them right, be aware of the issues, stay abreast of the company they keep and pray (a lot).

    BTW, congratulations! Welcome to Whitney M. Young. I hope to meet you one day.

  • 201. CPSappalled  |  March 30, 2012 at 5:21 pm

    My concern about the Taft AC and SEHS enrollment rate is where do the other 2/3 kids end up? Are they going to IB or Honors programs or applying to parochial or private HS? My question: is it better to pull my child out of the current school to go to Taft AC, not knowing if will lead to a decent HS, not necessarily SEHS? As it looks likely that most kids in Chicago won’t get to go to a SEHS, where do most of the Taft AC kids go and are they happy with their options?

  • 202. CPSappalled  |  March 30, 2012 at 5:23 pm

    Thanks for sharing your child’s experience. It’s helpful.

  • 203. RLJulia  |  March 30, 2012 at 6:15 pm

    @200 – thanks for the welcome. I think my friend was sheepish as she is a teacher and because my daughter just got into WY -but isn’t a student there yet. I agree -drugs are everywhere. Then again, they have been at least since I was in high school and probably before.

  • 204. sirrahh  |  March 30, 2012 at 6:34 pm


    Having a 7th grader at Taft I share your concerns. However, I don’t think ‘getting the grades’ is any more difficult for my daughter there than if she had stayed at her elem school so we are really no worse off. Worst case scenario she can stay at ‘Taft Regular’ for high school, which already gives us an extra option.

    From what I have seen the kids I know who were shut out did not ‘cast a wide net’ and only applied to the SEHS and LPIB; no Von Steuben, no Northtown, no Senn IB etc.

  • 205. southie  |  March 31, 2012 at 10:47 am

    Need info about the experience in the Morgan Park HS Academic Center & IB program. Any info or advice?

  • 206. anonymous  |  March 31, 2012 at 5:19 pm

    Cassandra Daniels is the CPS Pubic Information Officer who handles FOIA requests. BGA is also helpful here.

  • 207. anonymous  |  March 31, 2012 at 5:20 pm

    That was for #72 — last year’s data.

  • 208. anonymous  |  March 31, 2012 at 5:20 pm

    Oh geez — Public Information Officer.

  • 209. anonymous  |  March 31, 2012 at 5:31 pm

    164 — WYAC has high school certified teachers to teach their AC classes.

    I don’t know how many RGC middle school teachers are high school certified, but it would be nice to know.

    It would also depend the RGC’s focus — some offer accelerated math –h.s. algebra and geometry — taught by h.s. certified teachers. Others might accelerate the science and have it taught by h.s. certified teachers. It all depends.

    does anyone know?

  • 210. Wondering  |  April 3, 2012 at 1:43 pm

    If anyone has any information about/experience with Kenwood’s Academic Center, please share. Thank you.

  • 211. Sunny  |  April 3, 2012 at 2:29 pm

    #210. Just make sure Kenwood provides transportation if you need it. You have to be specific on where you live. Open house for Kenwood is Tuesday, 4/10. Please see the posts for #142 & #144 above for info on Kenwood.

  • 212. Sharon  |  April 9, 2012 at 7:15 am

    Can anyone tell me how WYAC worked for their family? Getting up early and how it affected their child. My daughter got in and did not want to go, now she has mulled it over and is going. Now I am concerned about the whole thing even though I wanted her to go in the first place. She is generally a quiet girl and has forged some great friendships in school so I worry that she will be overwhelmed at WY. Any advice on how it affects the kid – not about the opportunity thank you.

  • 213. tara  |  April 11, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    Any second chance Lane AC letters? if so do you think i have a chance with a 802.4?

  • 214. tara  |  April 11, 2012 at 9:05 pm

    sorry forgot to add I’m in tier 4.

  • 215. suburbs schmuburbs  |  April 11, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    Tara, I’m hoping for the same thing — but we’re 811. I’ll post here if it happens. But I wouldn’t plan on it getting even that far. The AC coordinator told us that they sent invites to 136 people for a class of 120, expecting some cancellations. Seems to me that it’s a touchy business, overbooking — but, hey, if they want to make this process even more tortuous than it is, why not channel the airlines?

  • 216. Amy  |  April 11, 2012 at 9:52 pm

    Any thoughts , how lane tech 7/8 th grades compare with whitney 7/8 grades? We let go WY for Lane, now thinking , was it a good move?

  • 217. WRP Mom  |  April 11, 2012 at 11:05 pm

    Amy, I think the coursework is similar at both schools. If anything, Lane seems to be more accelerated in science (biology is taken in 7th at Lane and 8th grade at WY). The other difference I see is at Lane, they take a foreign language AND an elective, as opposed to WY where they have to choose one or the other. Lane is much closer to our home, so we ranked it ahead of WY. Did you go to the meet & greet last night?

  • 218. cpsdisgusted  |  April 12, 2012 at 6:22 pm

    @ suburbs. I read that they were accepting more people. (140) 4 go to the appealing people.

  • 219. RGC student  |  April 12, 2012 at 6:26 pm

    anonymous, I attend an RGC and I know my Language Arts teacher is HS certified. (the teacher told a story about teaching at a high school). But also, a HS certified teacher’s next option may be an RGC, ( only because for 8th grade they teach at a similar level).

  • 220. WY or bust  |  April 13, 2012 at 8:48 am

    How are the second chancers selected? Is it soley by score or if a tier 4 declines acceptance are they are replaced by the next tier 4 in line?

  • 221. ChiSchoolGPS  |  April 13, 2012 at 9:22 am

    I just called the OAE office (which answered rather quickly) and was told that second round AC offers are based on the same pools as the first round offers. In other words, they call from whatever pool turned down a slot (rank, tiers 1-4, etc). BUT, for non-entry years (8th grade for ACs, and Lane Tech has about 40 students coming for 8th this fall), the offers go strictly by score.

  • 222. RL Julia  |  April 13, 2012 at 9:51 am

    Because of the proposed new school day -WY AC will take two electives – choosing between art, computers and language. Taft’s existing schedule already has all three. As far as I can tell, the goal for both Lane and WY is to basically start 7th graders in high school level classes with the idea of getting all the pre-req’s out of the way early leaving them to pursue their interests later in their high school careers.

    @RGC student/anonymus – even if you teacher is HS certified, I think whether or not you can get high school credit or not has to do with if your school is allowed to program a high school level class or not. This is why kids who took classes at NEIU in middle school weren’t given HS credit – their schools didn’t have the ability to program a hs level class.

  • 223. WY or bust  |  April 13, 2012 at 10:36 am

    @ChiSchoolGPS – thanks for the information.

  • 224. RL Julia  |  April 15, 2012 at 9:09 pm

    Update. Went and enrolled my son at Northside yesterday only to find out that I need to clarify with Northside individual department chairs which of Taft’s credits they intend to honor/accept (ditto Whitney Young as far as I could figure) – He’ll have to take a placement exam for Spanish – the jury’s still out for math. The guidance counselor told me one thing over the phone and the head of the Spanish Department told me a completely different thing (she was enrolling us) and then another guidance counselor had another take on it….

    Then there’s the whole question of if he doesn’t place into whatever the next class is – did the class he is taking now really count towards his high school GPA after all? So much for a seemless transition……

    I actually don’t really care one way or another, I just want a one consistent answer from someone…. preferably written and signed and blue ink and fingerprinted….

  • 225. HS Mom  |  April 16, 2012 at 9:50 am

    RLJ – as you are finding out, the whole getting HS credit in grade school thing is completely irrelevant. Your kid will be placed into whichever class the school deems they qualify for and he will graduate with more credits than needed anyway. Wait until you find out that you can’t get credit in AP for college.

    Best of luck in your new adventure.

  • 226. RL Julia  |  April 16, 2012 at 10:47 am

    HS Mom – Thanks. I am getting flashbacks from my experiences trying to get classes in college. Good to know about the AP class stuff – I never much understood AP stuff anyway – although it seems to be an unavoidable part of the high school landscape these days – just not completely sure why it is desirable….unless you are really into a particular subject and want to go deeper – right?

  • 227. RGC student  |  April 17, 2012 at 7:29 pm

    any 2nd rounders?

  • 228. RGC student  |  April 17, 2012 at 7:36 pm


    So WY must be having a 2nd round. On the letter it states that all schools are having a 2nd round so just some info.
    Also WYAC I think is expanding just something i heard 140 seats. 4 go to appealers/ principal’s choice.

  • 229. tara  |  April 23, 2012 at 8:51 pm

    Anyone out there get a second roud letter? or know when they stop filling seats for Lane?

  • 230. tara  |  April 23, 2012 at 8:52 pm

    *round* not roud

  • 231. suburbs schmuburbs  |  April 24, 2012 at 1:10 pm

    Tara — No letters have been sent yet. I called CPSOAE. They are going through the second-round stuff now, and expect to have it wrapped up this week, with letters going out Friday or early next. They can’t say at this point which ACs have a second round.

  • 232. cpsobsessed  |  April 24, 2012 at 1:12 pm

    Thanks for the update, and if I haven’t said it yet, I love the name “Suburbs Shmuburbs.”

    Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

  • 233. suburbs schmuburbs  |  April 24, 2012 at 11:10 pm

    You’re welcome, and I’m glad to help. Thanks for providing the venue.

  • 234. tara  |  April 25, 2012 at 4:24 pm

    Thank You for the information. It really helps.

  • 235. A proud parent  |  May 4, 2012 at 12:10 am

    Ivy Garden Learning Center (a new center located at Brideport) offers an excellent AC test training program. This year the center trained a total of 5 students, and two of them got a perfect score of 150. One of them got 900.

  • 236. tara  |  May 6, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    Second round letters have been recieved for taft. Some my friends got a letter to Taft. No Lane so far?

  • 237. Questioner  |  May 7, 2012 at 5:51 am

    Second rounds for Academic Centers will change the cutoff scores that CPS has already published. I wonder if CPS will amend the cutoff scores chart for Academic Centers with second rounds. I’d like to see the changes.

  • 238. WRP Mom  |  May 7, 2012 at 6:32 am

    I’m pretty sure CPS only publishes the 1st round cutoff scores every year. Although it would be interesting to see the numbers for 2nd round, I don’t think we’ll get them from CPS. Maybe if those who have received 2nd round offers can report their scores/tiers here, we can get an idea?

  • 239. CPSappalled  |  May 8, 2012 at 2:39 pm

    Does anyone know how many kids applied to each Academic Center this year? The only posted information is for Lane’s AC, where 1200 kids applied for approximately 120 spots. Does CPS publish this information?

  • 240. RL Julia  |  May 8, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    At Whitney Young I believe the admissions letter said something about 1400 applicants but once again -its hard to know if they are counting total applicants or just the kids who put whatever school down as their first choice etc…

  • 241. Questioner  |  May 8, 2012 at 4:31 pm

    Did Whitney Young have a second round?

  • 242. tara  |  May 17, 2012 at 9:41 pm

    Any second round Lane?

  • 243. suburbs schmuburbs  |  May 18, 2012 at 9:15 am

    If there was, Tara, it didn’t include us. And we were very close to the cutoff.

  • 244. tara  |  May 18, 2012 at 9:23 pm

    ok and thank you

  • 245. a proud parent  |  May 21, 2012 at 1:52 pm

    According to the acceptance letter sent to parent, there are total 2,700 applicants for the 120 spots in WYAC.

  • 246. Emily Haite  |  September 6, 2012 at 10:44 pm

    I know that the scores are 300 on 5th grade grades, 300 on ISATS and 300 on the exam. My question is with the ISATs what scores do you have to have to get a 300? 99 on both math and english? If so, then how do we figure out the score from there? ie, if the score is 99 on one and 97 on another does that equal 150 points plus 145 points (1.5 points per 1 percent on the test?)

  • 247. Tara  |  September 6, 2012 at 10:50 pm

    Yes just about give or take a point. It all depends on both scores. Each one is out of 150 like you said and then deducted for how many percentage points off the isat.

  • 248. ChiSchoolGPS  |  September 7, 2012 at 6:44 am

    On the http://www.cpsoae.org website, under “Programs”, and then “Selective Enrollment Elementary Schools”, there is a very helpful right hand sidebar with linkable info. If you click “The Point System”, you get http://www.cpsoae.org/ourpages/auto/2009/10/23/60441640/Scoring%20Rubric%20–%20Academic%20Centers%20and%20International%20Gifted%20Programs%20–%202010-2011.pdf
    There is also a tab for “Cutoff Scores” for 7th graders from this Fall’s entering class http://www.cpsoae.org/Academic%20Center%20Cutoff%20Scores%202012-2013%20–%20Round%20One.pdf

  • 250. maria  |  March 30, 2013 at 9:34 am

    Hi, I would like to know if somebody knows any websites or effective tutoring programs to have my daughter practice for the selective enrollmnet test for next year. I want to get her prepare, but no idea. Thank you.

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