School Assignments – Still Being Worked Through

May 5, 2009 at 1:56 pm 36 comments

A parent gives this update. (btw, how do I get the job of Administrator of Student Selections?  That would be pretty cool, doling out those spots.)

Just a brief update. I just spoke with Crystal Vance (Administrator of Student Selections at CPS). She told me when I spoke with her back in March after the GEAP letters had been sent out that if I checked back with her later on in the process, after there had been more movement, that she might be able to give me a better idea/narrow it down as to my son’s rank/chances of getting into Lenart. Anyway, today she said that they are still in the midst of the selection process and if she could she would call me back later today or tomorrow. She didn’t indicate what she might or might not be able to tell at that point. I know this isn’t much info, but still thought I would share. 🙂

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  • 1. SW Side Mom  |  May 7, 2009 at 7:51 am

    Well, no call back either day. So I may have to phone Ms. Vance again today.

    Does anyone know of any kids, especially majority, who go into Kindergarten at Lenart from the Beverly area here on the SW side for the 2009-2010 school year? I know of one minority one from our neighborhood, but no majority kids, which is unusual. That’s not to say there aren’t any, possibily just ones that I do not know.

  • 2. SW Side Mom  |  May 7, 2009 at 2:13 pm

    Okay, I feel like I am talking to myself on this thread… 😉 But in case anyone else from the SW side is out there reading, I thought I would share what I found out from talking with Ms. Vance today. Some of what I leared does apply to all of the kids/rounds of selections.

    First off, I decided to call Ms. Vance, since I hadn’t heard back from her by this afternoon. She was very friendly and very apologetic that she hadn’t gotten back to me. She explained that they had just finished the process for the 3rd round of selections yesterday. She said that after each round the computer generates a new list that ranks the students based on their scores. I think you all know that in addition to their main GEAP score, my son’s was 135, there are apparently sub-scores that seperate those who get the same main score.

    So Ms. Vance looked to see where my son ranked on the latest list. She said #37. I thought to myself, oh well, I guess Lenart/ GEAP school isn’t in the cards for him for Kindergarten, no biggie. However, then she went on to explain (though I didn’t follow completely and am not sure who all was included in that list that he ranked #37 on) that during this last round there was only one spot open at Lenart and that it was for a majority student. She said that the offer had been given to a majority student that ranked higher than my son that that student/the family has until Monday to decide if they want the spot. She explained that typically they give only 48 hours to decide, however since it is close to a weekend, they extended the deadline to Monday.

    Ms. Vance then went on to explain that there are two majority students ahead of my son for the spot if the current child declines it. Which didn’t make sense to me if he was #37, but she did try to explain that many of the other children had more than one GEAP school they applied to, then there is the whole ranking of choices that plays in. She mentioned that there were a few students/families ahead of our son who already had turned Lenart down or had given “no response.”

    So bottom line, as she explained it to me, is if the current offer is turned down by the majority student, the other two ahead of my son will be offered the spot. If both of them in turn were to turn it down, our son would get “the call.” I asked how long the process could take from here and the way she broke it down, it sounds like it basically takes them about a week per round to generate the lists from the computer, make the calls/offers and then receive the replies or “no response” before they move on.

    She reitterated that my son scored very well, but that LOTS of children tested this year and there were LOTS of high scores.

    Lastly, the main reason I was inquiring, is that we want to sign our son up for a local summer camp, however we heard that if he is offered a spot at Lenart and we accept, that typically the GEAP schools offer a summer camp/orientation for incoming K students that could conflict (the timing) with the other camp we were considering. We didn’t want to pay for/register our son for the local camp, if he might go to Lenart. Ms. Vance ending up calling Lenart while I waited and talked to an administrator there who explained that they do typically offer such a program, however they hadn’t received the funding yet for this year to give the green light and it could still be 4 – 6 weeks before they would know. The woman said that she had some parents call her for the same reason, as they want to make their summer plans. I had heared the same explanation from a neighborhood friend of mine who has a child going into 1st grade at the GEAP school Keller next year and had been told the same thing about a school sponsored summer program..

    Then Ms. Vance called Dr. Trudy Weller, who apparently has a key role in the GEAP programs and she told Ms. Vance that yes, they didn’t know about funding yet. Dr. Weller understood that parents were anxious to make summer plans for their children and know their options, but that they just don’t know yet.

    So that it what I found out today! 🙂

  • 3. cpsobsessed  |  May 7, 2009 at 2:16 pm

    Way to get that info!
    I think it’s helpful to everyone to read about how the process works…. thanks for sharing!

  • 4. PR  |  May 7, 2009 at 6:54 pm

    Hi Obsessed, Check out the NY Times article. 90% gets into gifted. Can anyone get the scoop on the numbers in Chicago? BTW great blog.'more%20children%20take%20the%20tests%20for%20gifted%20programs,%20and%20more%20qualify'&st=cse

  • 5. C  |  May 7, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    Yes, thanks for the info! It is useful information. For those of you out there posting, please keep doing so. I read the posts here more often than I post myself because I don’t want to post unless I have useful information to update someone with. As a matter of fact, you provide hope to those of us who are resigned to the thought that other children have no chance of acceptance by showing that these selections are still being processed and being done so in an intricate manner. Thanks again

  • 6. To Southwest side mom  |  May 7, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    I actually enjoy your comments. Most people who blog here appear to mostly live on the north side so I believe this is the reason no one is responding. I live on the south side and one of my children attends a south side classical that is wonderful!

  • 7. Beverly Mom 2  |  May 7, 2009 at 11:04 pm

    Thanks so much, SW Side Mom – our son’s score is right around your son’s and we listed Lenart as #1 – no calls. Based on all these postings, I’m finding that a lot of very bright children from the Beverly area will be attending Sutherland, which gives me hope that teachers will step it up a notch. I was terribly disappointed to not rec’v a call until I attended Sutherland’s open house and then felt more comfortable after talking to some parents. Only issue is they focus a lot on reading & writing, and science and math seem secondary – not a perfect fit for a kid that leans towards math & analytics.

  • 8. another mommy  |  May 8, 2009 at 10:56 am

    Hi SW SIDE mom!

    My friend who’s daughter got into Lenart is black and scored a 139 at the first round. There are a bunch of super-smart kids this year (yours included). Good luck! :o)

  • 9. cpsobsessed  |  May 8, 2009 at 11:50 am

    Hey guys-
    I added “Lenart RGC” as a tag to this posting – that may help get more S and SW side parents to the site if they’re searching for school information.
    If you can think of any other search terms that might help a parent from those neighborhoods get here, please let me know and I will add them!

  • 10. Mari B.  |  May 12, 2009 at 5:12 pm

    I didn’t realize that some schools offered camps over the summer.
    I do know that Lenart is definitely having Orientation for the new Kindergarten students on May 28th. My son will be entering Lenart’s Kindergarten in the Fall and we’re all looking forward to this.

    At Orientation, I’m going to ask about the “camp” to see what their feedback is as of that date.

    We don’t live in Beverly, but we do live in Mt. Greenwood (which is the neighborhood just West of Beverly), we are Latino and my little man scored a 139 and was accepted in the 1st round. Lucky us, as this was our first pick for him.

    I have heard that Sutherland is over crowded, so I hope that everyone who wants to get their children in, is able to.

    Good luck everyone and I’ll update you when/if I receive anything noteworthy.

  • 11. the heckler  |  May 13, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    just wanted to let you all know that there is still movement on the North side too. Just heard this week of a majority girl being offered a spot at Edison for 2nd grade next year. Parents are deciding as I type this…

  • 12. SW Side Mom  |  May 15, 2009 at 8:08 am

    Thank you for all of your validation! 🙂 Though I have shared this blog w/ some of my SW side/Beverly area friend, I just wasn’t sure how many, if any people in our neighborhood were reading here on a regular basis

    Beverly Mom 2 – Thank you for sharing your experience. Our son is currently registered for Sutherland too and I was very impressed at the open house! So isn’t offered a spot at Lenart in the end and/or we decide not to take it, I feel confident that Sutherland will be a great fit for him. I look forward to hopefully meeting you and your son at some point in the coming year!

    Another mommy – Thank you for sharing about your friend’s daughter! It is nice to know about some of the children who have gotten into Lenart, as before your post I hadn’t heard of one child that I knew or that some else even knew that had actually gotten in! It does seem like a lot of children tested this year and a lot of them scored highly! 🙂

    Mari B. – Thank you for sharing about your son and your experience! Congrats on him getting a spot at Lenart! 🙂 Though we live in Central Beverly, my husband grew up in Mt. Greenwood, so I am very familiar with the neighborhood. Please do share if you learn more about Lenart, especially the potential summer orientation/camp program. I have heard that some classes at Sutherland have had some overcrowding issues, but that the principal is really cracking down on the attendance boundaries and we were pleased that our son got a full day spot through the lottery for K.

    Again, thank you all for your posts and for the validation! 🙂 I actually spoke with Crystal Vance from the CPS Office of Academic Advancement again yesterday afternoon and as usual she was very kind and forthcoming with information. Since this is already a long post, I will submit it and them follow up with another one about my conversation with Ms. Vance from yesterday.

  • 13. SW Side Mom  |  May 15, 2009 at 8:25 am

    As the heckler said in her comment, there is still movement going on all over the city right now. I spoke with my contact at the CPS yesterday and she was kind and willing to share with me where they are at in the process right now and where my son sits in line for a possible opening at Lenart.

    I found out that they are done with the 3rd Round of selections for openings at the RGC. The 4th round should begin early next week. Last week I thought my contact had told me that our son was #37 on the list and that three other children/families would have to turn down the one majority open spot at Lenart (at the time) for our son to be offered the change to go there. When I spoke with her yesterday, she clarified that our son was actually #97 last week. Not that the number really seems to mean much overall. She told me that the child who had been offered the spot during the 3rd round had been #75. She did not tell me if that child accepted the spot.

    She did however tell me that now, or at least when the 4th round begins next week, that they will be looking to fill not one, but two, majority spots at Lenart! She told me that our son was #135 on the new list (which again seems to be some kind of master list of the order in which children are chosen, but not reflect much how close a child is really to getting into their school of choice). She also explained that there are still two children (Beverly Mom 2, I wonder if one of them is yours?) ahead of our son on the list and though they have not been called yet, they will likely receive offers early next week (Monday or more likely Tuesday). She told me that both children put Lenart as their #1 choice; however that doesn’t mean that one or both of them will take the spots offered.

    So, as it looks now, if either child doesn’t accept the spot offered to them next week at Lenart, when the 5th round starts, likely the following week (after Memorial Day), then our son would get “the call!” My contact will on vacation next week and thus I will have to wait patiently for “the call” and/or to touch base with her after Memorial Day.

    I am very excited and very torn about the possibility of our son being offered a spot at Lenart. When I thought it wasn’t going to happen, I did a good job of rationalizing to myself all the reasons why Sutherland (our local neighoborhood CPS) would really be a better fit anyway. However, now that the reality of the possibility is getting closer, I am struggling with how could we not give our son such an opportunity to attend a RGC, if he is offered it?!

    I have spent a lot of time talking with family and friends about whether or not it would be in our son/family’s best interest to send our son to Lenart in the fall, if he is offered a spot. There are a lot of reasons that I/we think it would be awesome and other reasons we are not so sure. So you can bet I will be talking to a lot of neighborhood parents over the next week and half who have experience with Lenart and/or Keller (which doesn’t start until 1st grade in our neighborhood and where regardless of where our son goes this coming school year, we will likely have him tested for in the future) and/or Sutherland (where our son is currently enrolled and we have heard wonderful things about)!

    Thank you again CPS Obsessed for creating this forum for us to share information and discuss our experiences navigating the CPS, especially the GEAP programs! 🙂

  • 14. chcgo mom  |  May 15, 2009 at 6:05 pm

    My youngest daughter was just offered a spot on lenart. We accepted. (they called at 4 pm. today). She is white and entering 1st grade. Now I have to get my 3rd grader in (be in 3rd in the fall).

  • 15. C  |  May 15, 2009 at 6:09 pm

    One thing that jumps out about reading the many posts on this site is that regardless of where our children attend school, us as their parents are instilling the value of education in them and ensuring that they are always learning and provided with the best opportunities to do so. We will continue to support and encourage them throughout their studies. That alone puts our children on the right path to a lifetime of learning. Keep up the good work everyone!

  • 16. SW Side Mom  |  May 16, 2009 at 10:34 pm

    Congrats chcgo mom! I have a good friend here in Beverly who has a daughter who is currently in K at Lenart. She will be continuing on there for 1st grade and thus will be in your daughter’s class next year! 🙂 My friend has loved her experience with Lenart the past year and more importantly so has her daughter. 🙂

    C – Well said. I agree! 🙂

  • 17. Beverly Mom 2  |  May 19, 2009 at 3:21 pm

    Oh no – just got the call that my son was accepted to Skinner North. My inclination (despite being thrilled he got in somewhere) is to turn it down, hope for Lenart or re-test next year for Keller and Lenart. Thoughts???? I never thought it would be this hard deciding on kindergarten. I’ll be a wreck by the time college rolls around.

  • 18. SW Side Mom  |  May 19, 2009 at 4:59 pm

    Beverly Mom 2 – Congrats on your son getting into Skinner North! I certainly understand your have a hard time deciding what to do. Could you call the CPS GEAP office and find out how close your son is to getting into Lenart to give you a better idea of the odds of him being offered a spot? Also even if you accept Skinner North, as I understand it, wouldn’t you still be offered a spot at Lenart later if it opened up (assuming you ranked Lenart above Skinner North)? I am not very familiar with Skinner North, as we only applied for our son for Lenart this year. Regardless of whether he ends up at Sutherland or Lenart for K, we will likely have him tested for Keller for 1st grade to maximize our potential options/choices for him. It is crazy how much stress just figuring out where our children will go for K can bring. Hang in there! 🙂

    No phone calls here, though I wouldn’t expect any until later this week, or early next week at the soonest. I am sooooo curious if the two children/families who are being offered Lenart spots this week are going to accept or if additional spots will open up for majority students after this round. We are leaning more and more towards sending our son to Lenart if he were to be offered a spot, but still haven’t decided for sure. Time will tell. 🙂

  • 19. Near South Mom  |  May 20, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    Trying to get my child into 3rd grade at Lenart. The GEAP office said no spots avail and if there were 4 non-minority children are ahead of her (children that tested, chose Lenart but didn’t get in anywhere). This process has left me feeling so deflated. Her scores are good but not as good as previous test years. She scores so much higher on private independant tests. She does not do well on the CPS group tests.

  • 20. Beverly Mom 2  |  May 21, 2009 at 10:22 am

    SW Side Mom – thanks for the words of encouragement. We turned down the Skinner North spot. There is no busing, so we’d be piling a 5 year old, 4 year old and 2 year old in a car for up to 4 hours a day (there & back, there & back). I might have been willing to do it if I just had one child, but the other children will be complaining to their future therapists for the rest of their lives. Hopefully, we’ll meet at either Sutherland, Lenart or Keller soon. I have a feeling we’ll be going through this process repeatedly over the next few years. Ah well, maybe one of my kids will just test average and then I’m off the hook. (:

  • 21. SW Side Mom  |  May 21, 2009 at 2:43 pm

    Near South Mom – I understand you being frustrated. This is very stressful process! Hang in there.

    Beverly Mom 2 – I can appreciate your reasoning for turning down Skinner North. That would be a lot, with no busing, to have to bring all three with you each day. Maybe you will still hear from Lenart? There seems to be a lot of movement going on there still for K, as I will share in a moment. Looking forward to meeting you one of these days. 🙂

    Well, my son got “the call” this morning and was offered a spot a Lenart! I called back to accept the spot this afternoon and we are very excited about this opportunity for him! 🙂 I already spoke with the Assitant Principal at Lenart and she was very excited for us and kind. We will actually go in tomorrow morning to register him and then will attend the Parent/child orietnation there next Thursday, May 28 from 9 -11 am. We already told our son and though initially he was a bit disappointed about not going to our local/neighborhood school that we had already registered him for, he seems to be warming up to it and seeing it tomorrow and again next week I think will help a lot! 🙂

    The Assistant Principal at Lenart said she was working on the grant proposal currently for the summer program/orientation there and that she hopes to know one way or another by orientation next Th. If they do hold it at Lenart this summer she said it would be two weeks, Monday, June 15 – Friday, June 26 from 9 am – noon, with no bus transportation. I thought I would share for any other Lenart (current or potential families) out there.

    Anyway, it wasn’t an easy decision whether or not to take the spot for our son at Lenart for K next Fall, however I feel really good about choosing to send him them and am excited about it! 🙂 Thank you again CPS Obsessed for creating this blog/forum for us to share. 🙂

  • 22. Beverly Mom 2  |  May 21, 2009 at 11:56 pm

    CONGRATS SW SIDE MOM!!! That’s awesome! My son scored a 134, so I’m going to say an extra prayer tonight that there’s still hope for him & Lenart. Even if it doesn’t work out, we do feel lucky that we have a good neighborhood school, which I know isn’t the case for many Chicago neighborhoods. Best of luck to you & your son on this experience – our nephew attended Lenart and absolutely flourished there. Please keep me posted, as I’m the stubborn sort, and will keep trying – would love to hear from you as the school year progresses. Take care – I am so happy for you – despite my competitive nature!! (:

  • 23. SW Side Mom  |  May 22, 2009 at 11:34 am

    Thank you Beverly Mom 2! My email is kmbenson75 at yahoo dot com if you want to email me and maybe we can meet and get our sons together for a playdate sometime over the summer? I am not sure if there are any other spots still open at Lenart right now. You can certainly call the CPS GEAP Office and they may tell you and where your son ranks if there is one or more open spots or if one or more open up in the future. I do know of another Beverly neighborhood family whose child was offered a spot at Lenart yesterday and that they did accept it. But that is not to say there aren’t any left, as you never know when spots may open up for one reason or another. Keeping my fingers crossed for you! 🙂

    I took our son to Lenart this morning to register and it went well! We met his K teacher there who was very nice and the classroom looked big with lots of light. After we registered him the staff said it was okay if we played on the playground for a bit. The 1st – 5th graders (and maybe older grades too) were having “Field Day” so it was great to see so many of the students outside on this beautiful day having fun together!

    While on the playground we met a young women who is currently in 7th grade at Lenart. I introduced myself and my son and she was so friendly. It turns out that she lives in our Beverly neighborhood, very close to where we do and that she will actually be one of the bus monitors on the bus that our son would ride, assuming we go w/ that option for him! The pick up and drop off for the bus route he would be on is Sutherland school where he had been enrolled for K prior to getting the spot at Lenart. She and he were both very excited about that, as was I!

    This young woman also shared with us that she will be in first graduating class next year of kids who started there in K nine years ago (before then they didn’t have K at Lenart) and didn’t have enough good things to say about her experience over the years at Lenart! Meeting her was more validation that we made the right decision and I am getting so excited about Sean’s experience there in the Fall! 🙂

  • 24. another mommy  |  May 22, 2009 at 3:16 pm

    SW Side Mom-

    I am so happy for you! I know you are over the moon. Congrats!

  • 25. mom R  |  May 22, 2009 at 3:20 pm

    I feel your excitement! : ) I am giddy about my son being accepted at Edison for KDG. The other boys I met at registration seem like they will be perfect. The building/room/teacher/staff were unbelievable. I can’t wait for the 3 day orientation in June (if they get the funding). I hope we’re all as happy next year!

  • 26. Mari B.  |  May 23, 2009 at 12:17 am

    Congratulations to your son! Good work, kiddo!

    I anticipate your family’s diligence will continue to lead your son onto positive paths… kudos to you all!

    See you next week!

  • 27. 3rd grade mom  |  May 24, 2009 at 6:29 pm

    Does anyone have info on the Options program at Beaubien? It doesn’t show up much in these comments. My to-be 3rd grader just was accepted in the last wave of calls, and of course they want an answer by Tuesday. We’re somewhat reluctant to pull him from our good neighborhood school now. (We had him tested mostly to be sure we weren’t neglecting humongous intellect, and he scored just at the 130 level.)


  • 28. cpsobsessed  |  May 24, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    I don’t know anyone personally who’s child has gone to Beaubien but from what I’ve heard it’s a well-regarded program. The only negative I’ve heard is that there is no recess.
    I think it all depends on the quality of your local school and whether you think you child will be adequately challenged there (and I don’t mean necessarily given super-advanced work — just that the academic standards are high and that the parents expect a lot from the school.) For some reason it’s hard, psychologically, to turn down a spot in a gifted program but if the travel is challenging and the child isn’t in desperate need of being with other brainiacs, it’s fine to stay put.

  • 29. Beverly Mom 2  |  May 24, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    CPSObsessed – I don’t think I’ve every thanked you for creating such a great source of information & community – my experience here has been wonderful. I’ve learned so much about the process & schools – without this site, I would lived through this in the dark. Thank you thank you!!

    SW Side mom – I’d better be getting to bed – have the Ridge Run tomorrow, but I’ll definitely drop you an email soon – I’d love to get our sons together sometime! We’ve got a lot of little girls on our block his age, but most of the boys are a lot older – he’s always trying to play with the 8 year olds at the park.

  • 30. cpsobsessed  |  May 25, 2009 at 8:09 am

    No need for thanks – I’m just excited that you guys found other people to share information with here. I wish even more people could get together online to share info – it helps so much during the crazy process!

  • 31. Beverly Mom 2  |  May 27, 2009 at 1:30 pm

    Just got the call – he’s in at Lenart! I am so happy, I can’t stop smiling! My husband thinks I’ve gone mad. It seems calls are still going out – stay the course, everyone!

  • 32. Near South Mom  |  May 27, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    Does anyone know when the next round begins?

  • 33. Near South Mom  |  May 27, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    My husband was told by the GEAP office today that there is another round of acceptances/offers coming up, does anyone know when it is supposed to start? Still praying, going nuts, calling, emailing, etc. for a spot for a 3rd grader at Lenart. We were offered a spot at Pritzker, however kids would be in two different directions which would be tough for this mom who works everyday…….Meanwhile anyword on Pritzker? I know nothing about it.

  • 34. near south mom  |  May 27, 2009 at 7:02 pm

    bev mom – congrats. I was the same way!

  • 35. Mari B.  |  May 27, 2009 at 11:54 pm

    Congratulations Beverly Mom 2!
    That’s fantastic news!

    I hope to meet you tomorrow (Thursday) at Orientation….

    I know the feeling of being so happy you can’t stop smiling. I felt the same way when we received the letter in March. I have always been so proud of my son & when we learned that he was accepted – wow!! we just know this is a blessed opportunity and I’m so lucky to be his Mom during this process.

    It’s reassuring for me to KNOW that he my son will be attending a great school, with great classmates whose Mom’s are as passionate about their education as I am, his.

  • 36. C  |  June 3, 2009 at 11:01 pm

    My son was accepted to Skinner West for Kindergarten today. We received the call at 4pm and have to call back by 5pm tomorrow. Minority applicant. I will call in the morning to accept the spot. I am looking forward to it.

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